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Old 08-25-2008, 05:02 PM   #121
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I am trying to figure out my holiday weekend now. We are leaving to go to Laughlin, NV on Sat morning (a carb up day) and will be traveling by car for about 7 hours. We will be there Saturday night and all day Sunday and will drive back on Monday. I was thinking of making Sunday my carb up day. But, on Saturday the friends we are traveling with like to stop at specific restaurants on the way up (truck stops) so maybe I would want to be able to eat carbs. Decisions, decisions
Well if you can make sandwiches with EZ bread and pack some food yourself its better then stopping somewhere where you can be tempted to cheat.

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Thank you!So on the day before and after do I count carbs? Oh and the party went great and I did great all day and then caved and ate cake! I swear I really thought I should start all over but everyone says just keep going so that's what I'm trying to do. Wish I would of never done this cuz now I'm wanting it
I do suggest you do four carb-down days in a row, and because Friday is normally a carb-down day for you on week 3 that means 5 in a row, if you can. Or, a more feasible plan might be this: This week normal with one extra carb-down C C D B C D no-starch holiday, THEN do the 2nd no-carb on Tuesday and then 3 carb-down days in a row and restart week 4 NEXT Saturday with your carb-up then Sunday baseline, then you're all the way back on track.
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I discovered that I hate, hate, hate...protein shakes. They make me nauseated and I really can't choke them down anymore. (God, I feel better just saying it) Any ideas of what I could substitute for them. (and don't say cottage cheese. I'm starting to hate that also) Starting Week 3. Thanks for any help.

Hi happyartist... we're both still going! Yay! I just wanted to say I'm never keen on protein powder either but I got it to have it as a just in case so I went into Shoppers Drugmart and took the first chocolate one tat fit the bill... and surprise! I like it. It's particularly good in my oatmeal, Go figure.
It's called: 100% Isolate European Whey INTENSE chocolate by webber naturals (little letters) Big white plastic jar, bright red label. 2 gr carbohydrate, 19 gr protein, 1 gr sugar, about $20. Just thought I'd mention it. Other wise, I have made burgers from lean meat and made more than I needed and just kept them in the fridge. Grab one when I need one. Same with chicken. I eat tuna from the can. Some meals for me are a case of "I have to eat X just eat it." Almost a utilitarian attitude. Did you find the bread yet? You'll be able to have toasted sandwiches then, at least before 3 on every day but carbup when you can have any kind of bread (I'm saving the expensive EZ bread for non-carbup days when I can't have anything else). Gotta love that.
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:12 PM   #124
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I am trying to figure out my holiday weekend now. We are leaving to go to Laughlin, NV on Sat morning (a carb up day) and will be traveling by car for about 7 hours. We will be there Saturday night and all day Sunday and will drive back on Monday. I was thinking of making Sunday my carb up day. But, on Saturday the friends we are traveling with like to stop at specific restaurants on the way up (truck stops) so maybe I would want to be able to eat carbs. Decisions, decisions
Truck stops are NOT known for their salads I'd carb up on Saturday, leaving you more choices at the restaurants on the drive since you can't control where you're eating. Once in Laughlin there are lots of places you can choose to eat that will be easy on plan. That's my take anyhow Have a great time, I love Las Vegas!!
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:23 PM   #126
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I still haven't gotten my book, so I don't know the answer to the question I asked on page 1 of this thread (posted yesterday - this is a really chatty group!) -
How much is a serving of fat?
Today is day 1, week 1 and while not eating carbs is not a problem this is a LOT less fat than I'm used to. I ate all 4 of my little meals by 1 p.m. today and had to white-knuckle it 'til I got home and could eat some turkey.
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m1: protein powder shake (2 g. carbs, 23 g. protein). It was ok.
m2: 3 oz chicken, 1 tbs, mayo, 1 celery stick
m3: 1/2 c. lowfat cottage cheese
m4: 1 c. salad greens, 3 oz, chicken, 2 tbs. caesar dressing
m5: 4 oz. lunchmeat turkey, 1 tbs. mayo.
later will be salmon and broccoli

critiques, please! Can I eat more fat than this? Can I eat more protein? The salad would have been SO MUCH better if I'd had double the lettuce (which would be ok, carb-wise, but with not enough dressing) and maybe 2 more oz. of chicken...I also probably should have put some coconut oil in my protein shake for fat, but I ran out of time this morning re:food prep and didn't have time to get out the blender.
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Hi I read your food list and felt hungry just reading it! If you ate all four of your mini meals by 1pm what time did you get up? There are supposed to be about 3 hours between everymeal. I know on week one for me I did sometimes eat at 2, 2 1/2. Wendy says not to be starving. It makes the body go "OMG no food. Must save what I have." the total opposite of "Ah! All is well. What? Burn some fat? Sure...." If we are starving at the next meal, we ate too little at the meal before she says... same with not hungry= ate too much the previous meal. It really is a learning process. Add protein. Add some fat. Eat full fat. It's low carb but not the way we all think it is. There is a lot of trusting of the program and of the people who are on this WOE ahead of us. BTW I ate cucumbers like they were going out of style! And make sure you drink your water too. All the best...
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I was wondering how you got your original quote in your signature line. I guess I'm A LOT SLOW
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:48 PM   #130
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Had to laugh at that just wrote it myself LOL! Good luck getting into those 12s - I finally fit in some of my 10s and I'm ecstatic!
Got into the 12's but no wayam I wearing them in public LOL!!! I will literally pass out if I ever make it to a 10 (that's my dream size!) so Yea that you got into yours!!! Now if I can only seperate my butt cheek from the back of my thigh HMMMMM...........

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Day 1 Week 3 -- I have a Seafood question

Hi everyone.

After having a bit of a carbfest on my first carbup day Saturday I did carbdown Sunday and baseline today. Carbdown tomorrow and a much more reasonable carbup on Wednesday. I DO NOT want to feel so crummy after carbup again. yuk. I made the choice to have my second starch after 3pm today. I was reading about how we need to get the starches in so when we get to accelerated fat loss cycles we don't want our bodies to be used to carbdown days so I gave it some starch: a serving of potatoes at 6. I won't make that a habit but I thought overall it was more important for me to have two starches on my baseline day than one-- which would have made it a carbdown day and that, my friends, is tomorrow.

Weightwise I am down another 0.2lbs after week 2 for a grand total of 5.2lbs. I can't tell if my clothes are looser or not... I am well within the yoyo amount of weight I have gained and lost and gained again over the past year, since January for sure. About a 15lb span I'd say. I am in size 20 and size 18 jeans... but do have a size 16 that really are too small. Maybe I need to try them on. Could do that tonight. I don't care about any of the details though. I see this as an 8 week experiment. When the 8 weeks are done, then I'll be able to tell you how I feel about it all and whether it worked for me or not.
So far so good and I like knowing there is a plan for dealing with slips. Absolutely no need to go totally offplan ever. You can always undo the damage if you act immediately.

I have a question, where does seafood come in? I was looking for it specifically and only saw Fish listed and some types of fish... what about scallops and shrimp?
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Quandria, you really ARE too funny today!!! I am LMAO like Lisa at your little quips you've thrown out!

Lisa, I think you came close to quoting but you must've accidentally deleted the [ "quote" ] directions in the brackets. Are you hitting the quote button in the individual post you want to respond to? If so, just be careful and put space between the original quote and your response so you don't accidentally delete any of the stuff in the brackets at the beginning or end of the original post.

Also if you want to respond to multiple posts, just hit that middle button that has the "quotation" mark for each post you want to respond to. You'll see it turn red. That means it is saving that post for you. Then when you're ready to type your responses to them all, go to the very bottom of the page and the button at the far left that says "Post Reply," hit that. All the posts that you marked will show up in the reply box. Then you just type in what you want to.

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Oh dear god and YOU are pretty fit. Can you imagine what it might say to me at 210??? I would be so humiliated!! Whilst LMAO at the same time I guess!


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I have a question, where does seafood come in? I was looking for it specifically and only saw Fish listed and some types of fish... what about scallops and shrimp?
I've been using seafood as a protein source under the general umbrella of fish (shellfish). This doesn't apply to you, but Week 1 folks might want to wait on the scallops - they are a bit carby.

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I have a question, where does seafood come in? I was looking for it specifically and only saw Fish listed and some types of fish... what about scallops and shrimp?
onexone, Wendy has a recipe for shrimp in the book so I always assumed that shellfish were OK. I don't eat alot of it, only once in a while (even though I'm in Louisiana and there's a seafood house just 4 miles away -UGH!) I did have stuffed crab on my carb up day since it's made mostly with bread crumbs. I say shellfish are OK "in moderation"....

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First congrats on your 5.2 pounds loss!!

Second, keep going! This was me on low carb only I kept at it way beyond it's usefulness like a bad boyfriend. Doing this WOE, my losses have not been at lightning speed, but then I haven't been perfect at it either, BUT one thing I noticed around Week 3 was that I could see the changes in my body in the bathroom mirror and that even the elastic type of clothes were getting looser overall, even though the scale wasn't showing a speedy loss. Even with the weight loss I didn't experience that with my low carbing. My clothes just never seemed to change!

So, YES! Pull out those tight 16s and use THOSE as your fat loss gauge.

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I can't tell if my clothes are looser or not... I am well within the yoyo amount of weight I have gained and lost and gained again . . . About a 15lb span I'd say.
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Got into the 12's but no wayam I wearing them in public LOL!!! I will literally pass out if I ever make it to a 10 (that's my dream size!) so Yea that you got into yours!!! Now if I can only seperate my butt cheek from the back of my thigh HMMMMM...........

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try them on again in a week and I bet you could wear them out in public and be just a little uncomfortable.
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First congrats on your 5.2 pounds loss!!

Second, keep going! This was me on low carb only I kept at it way beyond it's usefulness like a bad boyfriend. Doing this WOE, my losses have not been at lightning speed, but then I haven't been perfect at it either, BUT one thing I noticed around Week 3 was that I could see the changes in my body in the bathroom mirror and that even the elastic type of clothes were getting looser overall, even though the scale wasn't showing a speedy loss. Even with the weight loss I didn't experience that with my low carbing. My clothes just never seemed to change!

So, YES! Pull out those tight 16s and use THOSE as your fat loss gauge.
Thanks marymc. Even though I am in it for the long haul, I do like to hear that things/clothes will change even if the scale is slow to catch up... this is my week 3. Maybe I'll get an unexpected surprise in the mirror too. I'll keep going whether that happens or not.

And I thank you, and driving_mrs_daisey, for answering my seafood question. I have some scallops and will just eat them then! Yum.

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Hi All! Just wanted to check in. Week 6?!? Is it? I think. I have been so busy busy busy! I've read thru most of the posts. Welcome to all the newbies and congrats on everyones success.
This weekend I was a HOT MESS! Sunday we had a family bbq and before that I had some White Castles (only 2, no sides) and some ice cream. Then at the bbq I had pasta salad, corn on the cob, beans, hot dog on a bun. Then had the nerve when I had a burger to say no bun please! What?!?! Heck I had already had about 2 weeks a carbs. Oh and on Saturday I had cheese and crackers and a sandwich EZ bread though! And pretzels!!! It's time for my friend to visit I think that is part of the problem. So I made sure today I carbed down. I was going to do 3 in a row, don't think that's gonna happen!
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That's what happened to me. I was getting dressed and had to do a double take! I mean it's not like I was studying my body and thinking/hoping/praying that I saw something... I was getting dressed and glanced and then did a WHOA. It was noticeable.

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Thanks marymc. Even though I am in it for the long haul, I do like to hear that things/clothes will change even if the scale is slow to catch up... this is my week 3. Maybe I'll get an unexpected surprise in the mirror too. I'll keep going whether that happens or not.
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onexone, Wendy has a recipe for shrimp in the book so I always assumed that shellfish were OK. I don't eat alot of it, only once in a while (even though I'm in Louisiana and there's a seafood house just 4 miles away -UGH!) I did have stuffed crab on my carb up day since it's made mostly with bread crumbs. I say shellfish are OK "in moderation"....

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Agreed, I don't eat meat but I eat lots of fish and seafood. I have pre-cooked shrimp in the freezer and when I'm tired after work and just can't face cooking, I thaw some out under warm water and toss them onto my salad and call it good.
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Mary and Kelley,thanks for the prodding to post my menus, it really helped me stay on track today when I wanted to snack so bad and didn't.
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If anyone is following the off-plan advice to keep mixed raw nuts in your purse in case of emergencies, remember to make several small bags of them and switch-out the one in your purse every few days so they don't go rancid. I forgot to mention that step.
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If anyone is following the off-plan advice to keep mixed raw nuts in your purse in case of emergencies, remember to make several small bags of them and switch-out the one in your purse every few days so they don't go rancid. I forgot to mention that step.
Keep the extra bags in the freezer.
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I also wanted to share something I read on a website on carb cycling. I am not going to do this and I am not suggesting anyone to do it, but it states that we really shouldn't do aerobic exercise when we are carb cycling. It said to concentrate on strength training. One person in the article went from 20% body fat down to 5% with no aerobic exercise. I think that is crazy....so anyway, I will continue running my hour on the treadmill because it actually keeps me sane. It gives me a break from my two kids. Well, I will start to post my menue on the menu board
I was reading something interesting the other day in the "8 Minutes in the Morning" book (because I got it free and because I'm addicted to weight loss books...always glancing through them to see if there's a tip or two I can incorporate into my life). He's big into weight lifting for fat loss, and also mentions that he doesn't find cardio as effective for fat loss, and suggest weight training. The thing that I found interesting was his mention of working out in the morning instead of at night. He says it's better because 1) it's easier to get up 8 minutes earlier than it is to try to find time at the end of the day when you're tired and 2) because exercise kicks-up your metabolism you get many more hours of that positive effect because it keeps working for several hours after you workout. If those several hours are at night, there's less benefit because there isn't new food to burn off, and because going to sleep negates the effect. Now I've also heard conflicting advice that says you shouldn't workout before eating because your body will take the opportunity to cannibalize your muscles since there's no easily-available fuel, so I don't know. Jerri - do you know Wendy's take on this?
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Quandria, Jorge Cruise... he actually has a new workout book out right now called The 12-Second Sequence. I bought the thing months ago looking for strength training types of exercises but then saw that he progresses you into equipment which I knew I wasn't likely to either own or get a gym membership to do, so I quickly lost interest. I used to do his 8MM for Real Sizes diet and exercises. They were really simple exercises using resistance in the form of walls, tables, etc. and were written for larger sized women. I liked his original 3 hour diet, it was primarily low fat, eat every 3 hours, but more about doing a balanced plate of 1/3 of each protein, veggies and carbs and the exercises though simple did help. But as in all other diets, I lost interest.
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Hi Ladies

Uhm...I must be adjusting to something (or lack of something) I was a total AND complete AND absolute (get the picture?) GROUCH this evening...my poor little ones I must have apologized five times for snapping at them. We have back to school tomorrow and I went near 4.5 hours between my afternoon snack and dinner due to all the running around. EEKS!! I'll have to pack a shake in my car to ward that off!

About lettuce and cucumbers in week one. I love them so I am glad we can eat them...but I saw a post above mentioning only 1 cup of salad greens with her lunch (or dinner...sorry I had many posts to wade through and am still learning). Are we limited to 1 cup? I could not find that limitation in the book..in fact I think she says make a LARGE salad. Hmm...maybe I am screwing up. I used 3 cups of green leaf lettuce in my salad at dinner and did not count the carbs (lettuce is a 0 net-carb veggie I thought). Though in all, with the mandated 1 C broccoli, I still only had 10 carbs today. I am trying to nail this first week and everyday seems to be another oopsie and I have no excuse as I have the book! Eeks. Hmm...Help?

I am enjoying reading your stories...thank you all for your openness and helpfulness.

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Uhm...I must be adjusting to something (or lack of something) I was a total AND complete AND absolute (get the picture?) GROUCH this evening...my poor little ones I must have apologized five times for snapping at them. We have back to school tomorrow and I went near 4.5 hours between my afternoon snack and dinner due to all the running around. EEKS!! I'll have to pack a shake in my car to ward that off!

About lettuce and cucumbers in week one. I love them so I am glad we can eat them...but I saw a post above mentioning only 1 cup of salad greens with her lunch (or dinner...sorry I had many posts to wade through and am still learning). Are we limited to 1 cup? I could not find that limitation in the book..in fact I think she says make a LARGE salad. Hmm...maybe I am screwing up. I used 3 cups of green leaf lettuce in my salad at dinner and did not count the carbs (lettuce is a 0 net-carb veggie I thought). Though in all, with the mandated 1 C broccoli, I still only had 10 carbs today. I am trying to nail this first week and everyday seems to be another oopsie and I have no excuse as I have the book! Eeks. Hmm...Help?

I am enjoying reading your stories...thank you all for your openness and helpfulness.

Cheers and Good night!
NO - eat up girl! The only thing you need to worry about is sticking with the approved list of foods and keeping the carb grams under 20 for the first week. I think I kept my carbs between 5-12 grams the whole time. You are doing great - I would have about 3 cups of lettuce in my salad as well.
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:55 AM   #148
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Well today is my 30th day on program, and I feel FANTASTIC!! Weight loss is great, but I truly have not felt this good in a LLLLOOONNGGG time. Still avoiding the scale - only a couple more weeks until I weigh in.
Anyhoo... Today is my second carb down day in a row. I tried something new for breakfast - Cream of Wheat. Ok, don't laugh, but I've never had it before. LOVE IT!!! (Mom said she OD'd on it when she was pregnant with my sister and never wanted to look at it ever again.) I took the 3T recommended serving size and Magic Bulleted it with 1c water and 1 scoop vanilla protein powder, and one Splenda pack and then microwaved it for about 1 min 45 seconds. (stirring it halfway). I topped it with 1T half &half. YUMMY!!! I'm still really full even though I ate at 7. Something a little different from my morning oats. Tasted a little sweeter,more vanilla-ee. Lunch for me will probably be a tunafish roll up.
I'll see you chickies later. I'm back and forth between my computer and the TV today. Keeping an eye on GUSTAV - Ugh........
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:21 AM   #149
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Wii and Cream of Wheat

Jeanne-thanks for your post about the Wii. I am really looking forward to trying it out. Do you have to get the Yoga mat to do the Yoga stuff on the Wii? I already have a yoga mat and will use that if I can..but maybe the Wii Yoga mat has some sensors in it or something that help you to do it.

Marymc and Kelley--I feel so much better since I have been eating on plan. "on plan"...is that how you say it? Can we really have Cream of Wheat on a Carb down day? I love Cream of Wheat. My husband is gone for a few days so it is easier when I don't have to cook for the boys.
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LOL!!!! I have this t-shirt that I bought last year that fit really well it was form fitting and just a cute top. I have these black capri's that I bought a few months ago. I got a glance at myself in the mirror this morning and the shirt is big on me, and it's something about the pants that are fitting just right!!! Even with my HOT MESS of a weekend I am still sticking with it.
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