BMR!!! Eating To your BMR... No Matter What!

[Ilpirata]

Cyard!!!! That is awesome. WOW.
so happy for you. Onederland is coming right up and I know you'll get there sooon.

I think the BMR should be recalculated every ten pounds ish...

[JerseyGirl1969]

Originally Posted by Cyard

Wow!!! I just looked at my weight charge. ONE week ago I was 216. Today, 210.8 I'm so excited!!!

This makes me question, though...how often do you recalculate your BMR with weight loss?

Yes, every 10lbs.

I'm really happy for y'all. Now, can I do the "told ya so dance"?

[LoraJR72]

The BMR DANCE!

[Ilpirata]

Now, can I do the "told ya so dance"?

Oh dance away Laura!

And here's ME doing the GLAD I LISTENED DANCE:

[Kabuto]

Following the thread.. and thought I would post one week restart results for me an my wife. We currently eat 100-200 over BMR and "lowish" carb mealplan. Only exercise is WATP 1 mile with weights 4-5 days a week. Will be adding Pilates and then weight training, so I will probably up calories a little as we increase.

Me: -4 pounds (187.5 to 183.5)
Wife: -3 pounds

I actually have done this before and went from 205 to 185 before I hurt my back and stopped weight training. (Actually hurt it picking up my son and not because of exercise). My wife is type 2 and actually the hardest part is getting her to eat enough. She is on Byetta which makes her not as hungry and then just busy at work.

[hummingbird11]

Neena! (and anyone else interested!)

~ INDUCTION "Jump Start" CHALLENGE ~ May 19 to May 30 (12 days) ~

Originally Posted by neenaE

Hummingbird,
Thanks for that info. I decided to go back to Atkin's Induction and then go from there.

[hummingbird11]

Originally Posted by Cyard

Wow!!! I just looked at my weight charge. ONE week ago I was 216. Today, 210.8 I'm so excited!!!

This makes me question, though...how often do you recalculate your BMR with weight loss?

[Ilpirata]

Kabuto, Hi and Welcome.
Looks like you two are doing great for week one.
Eating enough CAN be a challenge mostly because of our ingrained eat less diet thinking. I'm sure the added appetite supression of medication makes it even harder for your wife. Its awesome you two are doing this together and have that added level of acccountability. I know you both will succeed!

[Cyard]

Thanks, everyone! I'm so excited. Onederland seems actually obtainable at this point. I swear, when I see a "1__" instead of a "2__" I will cry! Of course, my pattern is to lose a lot, gain some, lose a lot, gain some, so I'm sure I'll be up again..but it will come off

This Couch to 5K program is great, too! I'm sure it's helping, and I'm becoming addicted to it.

[Zer]

Getting better at planning; by 2pm today I'd set up food for the rest of the day. I'll be nibbling at salmon/egg/mayo salad the rest of the day. Yummy!

Calories Eaten & Planned for Today
......... grams . cals . %total
Total: 2474cals
Fat: 211 1901 77% <==target 75%
Sat: 74 662 27%
Poly: 4 37 2%
Mono: 20 182 7%
Carbs: 38 146 6% <==target 5%
Fiber: 1 0 0%
Protein: 105 420 17% <==target 20%
- - - - -
Today's Foods
Food Name . Cals . Fat . Carb . Prot
1 WPP/espresso/cacao Hot Slosh 263 5 29 25
4Tbs Coconut oil (VCO) 480 56 0 0
1C Beef, roast, roasted, lean and fat eaten 356 23 0 34
4 Egg, whole, boiled 272 19 2 22
1/2C TJ Mayo (no sugar) 880 96 0 0
3.75oz TJ Salmon, red, wild 193 12 0 23
1/2C Onions, mature, raw 30 0 7 1
Totals 2474cals 211gFat 38gCarb 105gProtein

Target BMR:2423cals / protein 150g / water 128oz

Mayo is probably one of the things I need to work on cutting back a bit, as I dip into that too easily to help fix salads. I can hurt myself eating mayo!

[Sybilizedliving]

I'd like to give this a try also. BMR is 1730 so I'm setting my goal from 1730 to 2200 and will be tracking with fitday. Am hoping this will help break my 2 month plateau!

Cheers all-

[Ilpirata]

I'd like to give this a try also. BMR is 1730 so I'm setting my goal from 1730 to 2200 and will be tracking with fitday. Am hoping this will help break my 2 month plateau!

Cheers all-

Is it Sybil?
Well, WELCOME. As you can see if you read our posts it really seems to be working for alot of us that have been on heinous plateaus. I know it can work for you too!

[Ilpirata]

Mayo is probably one of the things I need to work on cutting back a bit, as I dip into that too easily to help fix salads. I can hurt myself eating mayo!

Aaaaah Mayo. How I love thee Mayo.

I eat ALOT of this. Probably a huge majority of my calories come from mayo and CO. As long as you're measuring and tracking it I don't think it can hurt you. Its the sneaky unaccounted for mayo that is probably quite dangerous. beware ninja mayo.

[Zer]

As I learn to use FitDay I am losing my fear that I shall not be able to find food to fill my BMR:2423cals and I'm learning that I need to build more protein into my plan. Using mayo sure helps stuff glide down my gullet. Since I stopped drinking with meals, I find eating a more challenging activity. Mayo helps.

But my next salmon salad will be more fishy/eggy and less mayo-y, to get my protein grams up to target and hold my fat grams down a bit. I want to LOSE weight. Got plans to be lighter on my feet. Still have a hinky hip, but so what? Taking 200# off will surely help even a hinky hip. Oh, I can hardly WAIT!!!

With the data that this thread has provided me, I feel as if I am in charge! It's a great feeling to have, after decades of feeling as if I'm a slave to carbs!

[dointhis4me]

Originally Posted by Cyard

Onederland seems actually obtainable at this point.

This Couch to 5K program is great, too! I'm sure it's helping, and I'm becoming addicted to it.

Originally Posted by Cyard

I swear, when I see a "1__" instead of a "2__" I will cry! .

I did the same thing!!

Here's my numbers for today....I still need to have my last cup of coffee with hc to get my cals up (included below), I will have that once the kids are in bed so I can relax and enjoy it

Calories Eaten Today
Total: 1706
Fat: 150 1347 79%
Carbs: 28 74 4%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 70 280 16%

DH starts his day shift next week (he now works 1:30 to 10) so once his shift changes I will be able to go to the gym in the evenings....can't wait!!

Just noticed how high my fat intake was!

[dointhis4me]

Originally Posted by Zer

With the data that this thread has provided me, I feel as if I am in charge! It's a great feeling to have, after decades of feeling as if I'm a slave to carbs!

ITA!!!!!!

[neenaE]

Originally Posted by hummingbird11

More later, but me too! I started back on Induction today! So cool. We can eat to our BMR (less 500 calories for weight loss) on Induction, together!

I was 163 Friday; 164 today. I'm not gonna weigh again till May 31.

Check out my new stats!

Hummingbird!
Are you sure were not twins!? We even think alike!!
Here are my stats for today I was the same 163.4 this am.
Let's do this!!!!

Calories Eaten Today
grams cals %total
Total: 1643
Fat: 111 998 63%
Sat: 45 401 25%
Poly: 8 72 5%
Mono: 27 247 16%
Carbs: 61 94 6%
Fiber: 37 0 0%
Protein: 122 490 31%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

[muffles]

Wow, check out everyone's losses! This is awesome!

[Coconutty]

I'm so glad I found this thread!!!! I started reading and seriously thinking about eating to my BMR today, and poof, here is this thread. I'm 5'11 and 254.6 lbs as of yesterday. Using the HB equation and the conservative lightly active calculation, my BMR is 2652! I never counted calories before, but I don't think I ever come close to eating that when in ketosis. I started a fitday today. I've always been resistant to tracking calories. Not sure why, I'll count carbs till the cows come home, but calories, I'd rather sit on the pointed end of a stick than count calories!!! Right now I am at my highest weight ever and since I restarted LC, I thought that the weight would come off faster, given my previous patterns when I did not even weigh this much. But my another part of the pattern is that I lose well for about 3 months and then weight and inch loss comes to a screeching halt. Then I go for months w/o losing while eating clean. That is when I usually get discouraged and eventually fall off plan, then gain all the weight back and start all over again. I never found a way to break the stall and I never had the gumption to subject myself to a low fat/low carb/low everything woe to try to break it.

I forced myself to eat more today then afterwards plugged it all into fitday. This is somewhat of a rough estimate because I did not know what to plug in for certain items. For instance, I marinated some salmon in sesame oil and seasonings. But how much sesame oil did I end up eating? I don't know, but I estimated 1.5 tablespoons. Anyway, here is my tally:

grams cals %total
Total: 2100
Fat: 171 1539 75%
Sat: 45 407 20%
Poly: 27 246 12%
Mono: 62 559 27%
Carbs: 25 63 3%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 114 456 22%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

This includes about 190 cal and 19g fat from my supplements: fish oil, cla, gla, & sesamin.

I am excited to try this! It's a relief to find information that does not involve seriously restricting my diet any further. But I have to say, it won't be easy. I ate dinner 5 - 6 hours ago and I am still stuffed, like Thanksgiving day stuffed.

[Ilpirata]

Alisa,
HI! Welcome... we just started this thread a week ago so you're getting in on the ground floor. I think the majority of us have been in a similar boat as you are - plateaued or seriously stalled while already not eating too many calories, and balking at the idea of further and further restrictions as a solution.

You'll get used to fitday, and you're right someimtes its just an estimate. The important thing is to know the absolute minimum number of calories you must eat and really aim for it.

I am excited to try this! It's a relief to find information that does not involve seriously restricting my diet any further. But I have to say, it won't be easy. I ate dinner 5 - 6 hours ago and I am still stuffed, like Thanksgiving day stuffed.

I can relate to that too! Some of the tricks we've bene using is eating many more smaller meals, adding CO for extra fat calories, eating before we're really hungry. finding delicious high cal snacks like avocado and mayo etc.

I'm glad you're giving this a try.

[Ilpirata]

Here's my totals for Monday:

Total: cals-2049
Fat: grams-174 cals from-1563 percent-77%
Sat: 74 668 33%
Poly: 46 411 20%
Mono: 42 378 19%
Carbs: grams-19 cals from-51 percent-2%
Fiber: 6 0 0%
Protein: rams-107 cals from-428 percent-21%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

HOLY COWZA thats ALOTA FAT!
Also I only got 19g of veg carbs and I'm personally aiming for closer to 25... all in all though I'm happy with these numbers. Depending how skinny or not I feel in the morning I may weigh myself tomorrow.
Holy Cowza thats alot of FAT!

[Sybilizedliving]

Wow. Everyone is doing so well on this! Here's my deets for the last 2 days...

19th:
1728 cals
fat: 69% 129gms
Protein: 24% 101 gms
carbs: 7% 27 gms net

20th:
1834 cals
fat: 68% 135 gms
protein: 25% 111 gms
carbs: 7% 31 gms net

[muffles]

Total: 1815
Fat: 144 1298 72%
Sat: 55 494 27%
Poly: 7 65 4%
Mono: 70 628 35%
Carbs: 40 113 6%
Fiber: 11 0 0%
Protein: 99 395 22%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

Need to buy some more coconut oil, my carbs are up because I ate nuts instead of coconut oil!

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Coconutty

I'm so glad I found this thread!!!! I started reading and seriously thinking about eating to my BMR today, and poof, here is this thread. I'm 5'11 and 254.6 lbs as of yesterday. Using the HB equation and the conservative lightly active calculation, my BMR is 2652! I never counted calories before, but I don't think I ever come close to eating that when in ketosis. I started a fitday today. I've always been resistant to tracking calories. Not sure why, I'll count carbs till the cows come home, but calories, I'd rather sit on the pointed end of a stick than count calories!!! Right now I am at my highest weight ever and since I restarted LC, I thought that the weight would come off faster, given my previous patterns when I did not even weigh this much. But my another part of the pattern is that I lose well for about 3 months and then weight and inch loss comes to a screeching halt. Then I go for months w/o losing while eating clean. That is when I usually get discouraged and eventually fall off plan, then gain all the weight back and start all over again. I never found a way to break the stall and I never had the gumption to subject myself to a low fat/low carb/low everything woe to try to break it.

I forced myself to eat more today then afterwards plugged it all into fitday. This is somewhat of a rough estimate because I did not know what to plug in for certain items. For instance, I marinated some salmon in sesame oil and seasonings. But how much sesame oil did I end up eating? I don't know, but I estimated 1.5 tablespoons. Anyway, here is my tally:

grams cals %total
Total: 2100
Fat: 171 1539 75%
Sat: 45 407 20%
Poly: 27 246 12%
Mono: 62 559 27%
Carbs: 25 63 3%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 114 456 22%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

This includes about 190 cal and 19g fat from my supplements: fish oil, cla, gla, & sesamin.

I am excited to try this! It's a relief to find information that does not involve seriously restricting my diet any further. But I have to say, it won't be easy. I ate dinner 5 - 6 hours ago and I am still stuffed, like Thanksgiving day stuffed.

If you check out the combo thread in the vit/supps forum you will find the combo (cla/gla) is a known weight staller.

[Coconutty]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

If you check out the combo thread in the vit/supps forum you will find the combo (cla/gla) is a known weight staller.

I've heard that before. But thinking back to the last time I was on LC, I lost weight and inches when I took cla/gla. When I was stalled, going off the combo did not get things started for me again. Neither did eliminating/limiting dairy, nuts, doing m&e fasts, etc to try to eliminate the "staller." The truth is, I don't think I'm that my system is all that sensitive to things like that. The time when I did atkins most successfully (in terms of lbs lost), I was eating a lot of common stallers. I ate lc shakes, bars, lc candies daily and I was losing quite easily. But since then I've stuck to eating whole foods the weight loss is much more difficult and slow. I don't think it's simply a matter of me eating something that stalls me. I wish it were that simple, because then I would just eliminate it from my diet and get on with it.

[Zer]

9am...feeling well-nourished, I'm futzing with FitDay to tidy up some entries that are not quite right (like a "liter of olive oil" where I want a Tbs) and need to be deleted - if I can manage to do so.

Calories Eaten Today
......grams . cals . %total
Total: 503cals ...for breakfast Hot Slosh (WPP+cacao+espresso)
Fat: 33 297 58%
Sat: 24 216 42%
Poly: 0 4 1%
Mono: 2 14 3%
Carbs: 29 116 23%
Fiber: 0 0 0%
Protein: 25 100 19%
- - - - -
Today's Foods
Food Name . Serving Size . Cals . Fat . Carb . Prot
WPP/espresso/cacao Hot Slosh 263 5 29 25
Coconut Oil (VCO), 2Tbs 240 28 0 0
Totals 503 33 29 25

Plans for the rest of the day? Salmon, eggs, not as much mayo as yesterday. Intention? To meet my target BMR:2423cals, target protein:150g, target water:128oz - and to show amazing weight loss as affirmation that my body is metabolizing fat like nobody's biz!!!

[Ilpirata]

Plans for the rest of the day? Salmon, eggs, not as much mayo as yesterday. Intention? To meet my target BMR:2423cals, target protein:150g, target water:128oz - and to show amazing weight loss as affirmation that my body is metabolizing fat like nobody's biz!!!

GO GIRL!!! And its gonna happen too!

[JerseyGirl1969]

So, I was so happy to read that it seems the average loss in the first week was 4lbs. How cool is that?

Don't keep expecting big numbers, though. Just be realistic of 1-2lb/week.

My hope is that come Sunday I am 267.

I am upping my protein a bit as I'm concerned about muscle growth right now. Calories still on target.

Just gotta say, I love lc. I have had to leave another WL board for all the whining of "I can't do this", deprivation, unhappiness and most do low cal, low fat. Me? Never not satisifed!

Today:
4-6 protein shakes w/H20
ground chicken with taco seasoning, cheddar and sc
broccoli
almonds
dinner will likely be steak

[Coconutty]

Ok, so once I eat my intended dinner, my totals will be:

grams cals %total
Total: 2340
Fat: 182 1641 72%
Sat: 52 472 21%
Poly: 32 289 13%
Mono: 38 339 15%
Carbs: 26 68 3%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 140 560 25%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I feel like I ate a lot of food today already. It's hard getting over the notion that I'm eating too much.

[Coconutty]

Originally Posted by JerseyGirl1969

Just gotta say, I love lc. I have had to leave another WL board for all the whining of "I can't do this", deprivation, unhappiness and most do low cal, low fat. Me? Never not satisifed!

I know what you mean. I eat such yummy food, it's kind of hard to believe you can lose weight eating this way!