BMR!!! Eating To your BMR... No Matter What!

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Well I'm in the ballpark so I'm not going to stress it. Just read up on some protein threads. I do know its important not to eat way too much protein as this can turn into glucose.

Anyways i tracked down this calculator:

Calculate Your Protein Need on a Ketogenic Low Carb Diet

Turns out I need 99.9...
Well 100 is a nice round ballpark figure but like I said I'm not goig to push to get to it. I think my average per day is closer to 85 according to fitday.

There has been some discussion on the main forum whether this site posted by bloodsugar101 is set up for diabetics on a ketogenic diet as the figures are low. It is for me-it's very much YMMV-we have to find what works for each of us as we lose.

[2muttsmom]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

There has been some discussion on the main forum whether this site posted by bloodsugar101 is set up for diabetics on a ketogenic diet as the figures are low. It is for me-it's very much YMMV-we have to find what works for each of us as we lose.

Mine worked out to be almost identical using both calculators. I think the ones whose numbers were drastically different were LCers who were working out alot. I agree for them, the numbers on 101's site appear to be lower.

It may also be that for someone like you, Zer, the numbers on 101's site may be high. The only activity levels on 101's site are "normal" and high intensity training. There are alot of levels of activity not addressed there.

Very much a YMMV thing, I agree.

[retroworx]

Hey Zer:

Were those "Cheatos" everything you were hoping they would be?

[Zer]

Melle's Cheatos are BETTER than the commercial stuff that is too salty and that turns my fingers orange. Cheatos is simply eggwhites and sharp cheddar, with no artificial coloring added. Next batch will be with pepperjack cheese, a white cheese - Monterey Jack, I think it is. I'm also thinking to ask personal chef to try bleu cheese. Yum, huh? Nothing wrong with the sharp cheddar Cheatos, but I'm curious to know what the other flavors might be like. My chef says her auntie likes what is warm out of the oven, a chewy soft meringue, but does not like the crisp cool cheese puff that reached me. Her auntie was pressed into service to dab the wet meringue all over a cookie sheet in tiny dabs, so she 'earned' the right to taste afterward!

[Zer]

Originally Posted by 2muttsmom

Mine worked out to be almost identical using both calculators. I think the ones whose numbers were drastically different were LCers who were working out alot. I agree for them, the numbers on 101's site appear to be lower.

It may also be that for someone like you, Zer, the numbers on 101's site may be high. The only activity levels on 101's site are "normal" and high intensity training. There are alot of levels of activity not addressed there.

I think my target numbers are so high because my weight is off the charts, not because of my (IN)activity level. Normally, the activity level is what drives or dictates a target range. Extreme weight like mine is sometimes beyond the calculation of ordinary formulas that view activity as a primary variable in a person's range of ways to affect weight loss.

I am more and more impressed with the value of making HOURLY activity a part of one's ordinary life, rather than adding an hour or two of gym activity as a remedy for a lethargic lifestyle. Think French! Walk more. Climb stairs to work legs, do stretches and back-kicks while standing to wash dishes. Tiny lifestyle changes WILL affect a body's metabolic rate more than that occasional sweaty workout that gets delayed or that takes too long to do.

[i.am.jenn]

I'm posting this so I'll follow through with it.

I WILL document everything I eat today... so if I don't want to fess up to it then it won't cross my lips.

See ya this afternoon!!!

[Zer]

Yep, even my scribbled food diary is a help to me as I look back to find out why my weight is what it is today. I can see too many carbs - vegie carbs, but still carbs. So I am adjusting my carb shopping list for the coming week. Hope this works. Using a food diary as a tool makes sense to me, as I 'forget' food that disappears into my mouth. Old habit, to forget what I eat. Bad habit. So I use a scribbled food diary - just a line across a yellow tablet for each day's food - and I do not have to remember. It's all written there, scribbled in, to help me face facts when my scale reports data that surprises me. No fooling!

[Ilpirata]

i haven't been tracking.
despite my many avowalls to resume doing so.
*sigh*

[Zer]

Just enjoyed my 2d can of sardines (skinless, boneless filets) in olive oil - and was about to pop the top on a 3d can, when I realized that a can at 10am and another at 4:30pm was satisfying. No need for more. Not yet. And I have a doz HB eggs and a bag of cooked bacon to devour before more turns up Wed. Yep, standing order for 2doz HB eggs and 8 snacky bags of bacon a week (from 4pkgs of TJoe's uncured bacon, 11slices, 12oz raw and much less cooked crispy chewy for fridge snacking), in addition to 2# of poached salmon, 1# deli turkey (in 1/4# pkgs for snacking) and greens wilted in bacon fat. Oh, quiche too. It is a challenge, remembering what is on the wish list for LC eats to be delivered - mostly fridge food. Cheatos are using eggwhites, so quiche will use yolks and maybe some bacon fat too. I'm not sure. We are trying to balance out all the pieces of a LC menu that can be prepared and carried in, to make my job of eating up to my BMR a little more interesting than what I do with a canopener. Might see some 'shrooms in bacon fat this week, as being not so carby as a lot of vegies and a nice flavorful accompaniment for the poached salmon. I hope.

Got to get back to FitDay to see how my menu is adding up. My sense is that I am under my BMR, but with weight up in Aug (by 6# that MAY be due to salty bacon snacks?) I am concerned that I work on a plan to get my protein-fat up and carve vegie carbs considerably. I went vegie crazy with joy, and all those great green beans and asparagus stalks MAY be behind a weight gain that has me edging up to 400# again. How many times will I be losing these 390ish pounds before I get down under 390#? I'll weigh Wed morn and see how my scale reports the cutback in pumpkin seeds. I'm out and not re-ordering any for a while. Just too more-ish for right now.

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Zer

Just enjoyed my 2d can of sardines (skinless, boneless filets) in olive oil - and was about to pop the top on a 3d can, when I realized that a can at 10am and another at 4:30pm was satisfying. No need for more. Not yet. And I have a doz HB eggs and a bag of cooked bacon to devour before more turns up Wed. Yep, standing order for 2doz HB eggs and 8 snacky bags of bacon a week (from 4pkgs of TJoe's uncured bacon, 11slices, 12oz raw and much less cooked crispy chewy for fridge snacking), in addition to 2# of poached salmon, 1# deli turkey (in 1/4# pkgs for snacking) and greens wilted in bacon fat. Oh, quiche too. It is a challenge, remembering what is on the wish list for LC eats to be delivered - mostly fridge food. Cheatos are using eggwhites, so quiche will use yolks and maybe some bacon fat too. I'm not sure. We are trying to balance out all the pieces of a LC menu that can be prepared and carried in, to make my job of eating up to my BMR a little more interesting than what I do with a canopener. Might see some 'shrooms in bacon fat this week, as being not so carby as a lot of vegies and a nice flavorful accompaniment for the poached salmon. I hope.

Got to get back to FitDay to see how my menu is adding up. My sense is that I am under my BMR, but with weight up in Aug (by 6# that MAY be due to salty bacon snacks?) I am concerned that I work on a plan to get my protein-fat up and carve vegie carbs considerably. I went vegie crazy with joy, and all those great green beans and asparagus stalks MAY be behind a weight gain that has me edging up to 400# again. How many times will I be losing these 390ish pounds before I get down under 390#? I'll weigh Wed morn and see how my scale reports the cutback in pumpkin seeds. I'm out and not re-ordering any for a while. Just too more-ish for right now.

Zer in looking at the post of what you ate I seriously doubt it was healthy lc veggies like asparagus and green beans that caused the scale fluctuation. You are eating a great amount of sodium-its water weight. You had 1/2 lb bacon and broth from the salmon one day-thats a lot of sodium. Also the take out burgers have a ton of sodium. Remember its the quality of what you eat not just the carbs. DANDR states to eat nutrient dense veggies that pack the most bang for your buck. Refer back to "Why The Scales Lie" for your inspiration-those pesky fat cells that have shrunk easily fill with water. Today I am having a bad water retention day-have blown up 6 lbs due to hormonal problems. I feel ya Zer!

[Zer]

Blaming vegie carbs does sound silly, but my carbs are over 5% - and one of the places I see to cut that is to cut back on what was quite a jolt of fresh vegie carbs that I snacked on for a week or more. My staple has been canned fish, so salt is a part of my plan. Bacon truly is salty, as are the pumpkin seeds that I am not snacking on this week (or next week, either) as I've run out and am not ordering more for a while. I may have to drop bacon - my pig candy - as I admit that it's awfully salty and I can taste the sugar too. Not sure what carb count is for TJoe's uncured bacon. I'll check that out, so I can do a FitDay tally. Yes, I'm going to wade back in, to work out my menu at FitDay, the new and unimproved FitDay that frustrates me. But it will tally carbs. I'll do that.

Cutting carbs...may well mean curbing free munching of fresh asparagus/beans and other stuff like the sweet bell peppers that are just too too delicious. Yum!

[lisabinil]

I am feeling bloated, uncomfortable and stressed out too Zer. Staying the course though and gonna ride it out.

[retroworx]

Hang in there, Lisa and Zer!

[Ilpirata]

Also the take out burgers have a ton of sodium. Remember its the quality of what you eat not just the carbs.

*nod* *nod*
I ALWAYS bounce up a couple of lbs water after eating one from Carls Junior specifically... the baconator from Wendy's not so much! That six dollar burger must have a ton of sodium in it.

As far as the carbs go though Zer I DO think you're onto something. Thats the one area where I'm so glad you're working to improve really hitting that 5% target! I think it will be to your benefit.

And I agree with Retro, hang in there Lisa! I'm on a bounce up this morning too that i know is not because of going off plan. Because I haven't GONE off plan. As we all know its part of the journey and we just need to ride it out.

[WenB]

I'm eating to my BMR, but the scale is going backwards

According to the detailed measurements, I'm losing fat, but GRRRRRR. I want the overall to go do down.

[Zer]

I know that y'all are right about the salt/seasoning in Carl's burger patties. It's also silly to spend $9/lb for beef, so I'm talking with my personal chef about a recipe for sausage-beef meatballs that she can make in an oven, then freeze, so I have a pork-beef alternative when I crave beef. Meanwhile, I am working on salmon. Well, here's how today is looking: I started off with a hot slosh (WPP + cacao + espresso crystals in 16oz of hot water) before daylight. About 3pm I started to think of food.

At 6pm, I am replete - full of salmon and quiche and bacon (pig candy, I call it). Working on a bowl of baconfat-dressed greens now. (burp) Loving it!

Dinner is served in this bldg at 5:30pm on Fridays, but I did not even go to look at what is no doubt a carby repast in buffet style. I'm full of salmon and got a bowl of greens to die for, right here beside me. For later on, I'm saving 1/2# of turkey (4slices) to roll around spicy sprouts (4oz of radish and clover sprouts) for a crunchy yummy late-night snack. Still have a lot of salmon to finish, in an onion and avocado salad mix, dressed in Mrs.Dash's Lemon Pepper and olive oil. I'll get that into me somehow, later today.

Did not start fixing salmon salad until 4pm, so I'll be eating until midnight, probably. An 8hr to 10hr span to take in mostly protein-fat, with raw sprouts and cooked greens for carbs. If you've got to go overboard on carbs, greens are a good way to do it. Broccoli sprouts yesterday were so good!

No eggs today. Mañana I must start eating HB eggs, so I can be prepared for more eggs to arrive midweek.

Get the picture?

I'm having a ball. I feel so spoiled. Never in my life had it this good as far as having a menu to choose from, a LC menu waiting for me to open a fridge and make my choice. My quiches are 1.5" muffin size, packed 2 to a ziploc. My bacon (4x12oz = 48oz or 3#) is packed into 8 ziplocs for snacking. Yummy!

I'm so glad that I tried CraigsList and found a gifted chef. What luck, eh?

What's it all add up to at FitDay? OMG, I can't imagine. I'm surely up to my BMR. Carbs cannot be too bad. But I am still stalling about loading it. Sigh. Weighed t'other day and saw the scale is showing a small loss. Thank god!

[Zer]

2am Sunday morn (feels like really late Saturday night, but...uh...it's Sunday) and I am full of balsamic sardines and an avocado just past its prime. Spots. Still lots of good green avocado. Just had to pick my way past the spots. Ugh!

Funny, how balsamic vinegar turns a tin of sardines into a treat, a sweet treat!

Keeps me from browsing a late-night kitchen loaded with carby temptations!

Saturday was a light day, probably because I ate so much, so late, on Friday. Sunday will be a full-fish day, tackling another pound of salmon so moist and delish that it's a pleasure to fork it into flakes and mix in some olive oil. May try some coconut oil, just for the flavor it adds. Moistens and flavors, too, as well as adding fat. I believe I can see a difference in stamina that I attribute to the increase in protein in my LC plan. So glad to see - and feel - a growing ability to stand longer. May also be due to my recent decision to use ibuprofen as a means of reducing my kvetching about hip pain when I rise to move myself from place to place. Smarts! Using ibuprofen seems to reduce some of the drama - although there is still pain and unsteadiness as I move.

Hope I am not ruining my liver and kidneys with ibuprofen, as the literature warns against using it as a perpetual pain reliever. Scary stuff, drugs.

[skeeweeaka]

Good afternoon all, I've been following your thread for about a week and am trying to eat to my BMR for two days...it is difficult, however. After tracking my calories for a week and a half before trying this, I was barely getting in more than 1000 calories... I've been having a difficult time losing weight and am wondering whether this has been the problem... Apparently, after calculating, I can eat 1800 calories and lose two pounds per week...but I'm doubtful of that! I decided that 1500 for this week would be worth a try... I've also been exercising for the past 7 weeks using the C25K Running Program. As of this week I will add two days of strength training via Pilates or free weights. I've been at this since March and have only lost 15 pounds!!! I think, however, that this may be due to hormones and medications that I am on....heavy sigh...

Yesterday I got in 1600 calories and was stuffed to the guilds... Today I'm at a little over 700 calories and am stuffed and still need to eat a snack and dinner...

Anyway, I would like to join you guys on this journey... Hope you don't mind me jumping in at this late stage... Can't wait to get to know all of you...

TJ

[Parisfox]

Originally Posted by Zer

I know that y'all are right about the salt/seasoning in Carl's burger patties. It's also silly to spend $9/lb for beef, so I'm talking with my personal chef about a recipe for sausage-beef meatballs that she can make in an oven, then freeze, so I have a pork-beef alternative when I crave beef.

Zer....have you seen my Breakfast Meatball recipe? It would be perfect for what you want.

Breakfast Meatballs

2 lb. Roll Jimmy Dean Sausage (or any spicy breakfast sausage)
1 lb. Ground Beef
2 Tbsp. Minced Dehydrated Onion
1/2 tsp. Black Pepper
3 eggs
1/2 lb. Grated (or shredded) sharp cheddar cheese

Mix thoroughly by hand.
Roll into 1-1/2 inch balls or spoon onto cookie sheet.
Bake at 350 for 18-20 min.
Makes 50-60 balls depending on size.

Put individual servings in Ziploc sandwich bags, then put those in a large Ziploc Freezer bag and freeze. Heat in microwave.

[skeeweeaka]

Originally Posted by Parisfox

Zer....have you seen my Breakfast Meatball recipe? It would be perfect for what you want.

Breakfast Meatballs

2 lb. Roll Jimmy Dean Sausage (or any spicy breakfast sausage)
1 lb. Ground Beef
2 Tbsp. Minced Dehydrated Onion
1/2 tsp. Black Pepper
3 eggs
1/2 lb. Grated (or shredded) sharp cheddar cheese

Mix thoroughly by hand.
Roll into 1-1/2 inch balls or spoon onto cookie sheet.
Bake at 350 for 18-20 min.
Makes 50-60 balls depending on size.

Put individual servings in Ziploc sandwich bags, then put those in a large Ziploc Freezer bag and freeze. Heat in microwave.

Hey Judy, that sounds like an excellent recipe...can't wait to try it myself. May I ask how long have you been eating at your BMR?

TJ

[Zer]

I'll have some of the Breakfast Meatballs from my personal chef by midday Monday. I think we are using 2# beef with 2# sausage. Not sure. We'll see. It's a blessing for me, to have a cook who can deliver food ready to eat, as it saves me from eating canned fish day in and day out. Yay for me, finding her on CraigsList, where she offered to do errands. As we talked, she mentioned her degree from culinary school and her hope of finding work as a pastry chef, and I asked her if she would fix me poached salmon. She did. Now we are talking about a wider menu. She's wonderful. Really a life saver for me!

[i.am.jenn]

My counts from yesterday.

Calories 1,858
Fat 98.0 877 49 %
Saturated 35.4 316 18 %
Polyunsaturated 7.6 68 4 %
Monounsaturated 17.1 152 8 %
Carbohydrate 16.5 49 3 %
Dietary Fiber 4.6
Protein 219.1 876 49 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

Sorry I've been wayward... I fell... no, jumped off the wagon... a little stressed b/c of my Chy. She died last Tuesday... so after a failed attempt to drown my sorrows in carbs I'm back. I wasn't counting calories yesterday, spent a bum day around the house with DH... but I just entered everything and HOORAY! I just barely made it. Or maybe I'm under by 12 calories... Who cares

TJ - Welcome! I was in your same situation when I started. I've been... whatever you want to call it... but my body does not want to go below 260. I hit 258 for a couple of days but then it went up and then the whole "jumping off the wagon to drown my fears and sorrows in carbs" happened... What I can recommend to get your calories in without eating too much...

Start looking at the calories on EVERYTHING. It's tedious but you'll learn a lot about what foods are nutrient dense and what are fluff.

Start eating some red meat. LOTS of calories there!

My new favorite food is keilbasa (the big sausages by the hot dog weenies). I found one that has no sugar. Holmes Smokehouse Garlic Pecan Smoked Sausage. Don't worry, it doesn't taste too garlicy (my SIL can taste the garlic but I can't... probably b/c I cook with a lot of garlic) and it doesn't taste smokey (I don't like smokey). Cut the link into 8 pieces (half, half, half) and lay in a skillet on medium heat. When one side is just about crispy then flip and let the other side get some heat. Let cool and I eat it with mustard. Now, I'm not a fan of keilbasa OR mustard... but I love the flavors together. 0 carbs and pretty good in calories.

You'll find a menu that works for you. Just remember, it's possible to get your calories without being overly stuffed (most days... )

[skeeweeaka]

Originally Posted by jennbaker

My counts from yesterday.

Calories 1,858
Fat 98.0 877 49 %
Saturated 35.4 316 18 %
Polyunsaturated 7.6 68 4 %
Monounsaturated 17.1 152 8 %
Carbohydrate 16.5 49 3 %
Dietary Fiber 4.6
Protein 219.1 876 49 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

Sorry I've been wayward... I fell... no, jumped off the wagon... a little stressed b/c of my Chy. She died last Tuesday... so after a failed attempt to drown my sorrows in carbs I'm back. I wasn't counting calories yesterday, spent a bum day around the house with DH... but I just entered everything and HOORAY! I just barely made it. Or maybe I'm under by 12 calories... Who cares

TJ - Welcome! I was in your same situation when I started. I've been... whatever you want to call it... but my body does not want to go below 260. I hit 258 for a couple of days but then it went up and then the whole "jumping off the wagon to drown my fears and sorrows in carbs" happened... What I can recommend to get your calories in without eating too much...

Start looking at the calories on EVERYTHING. It's tedious but you'll learn a lot about what foods are nutrient dense and what are fluff.

Start eating some red meat. LOTS of calories there!

My new favorite food is keilbasa (the big sausages by the hot dog weenies). I found one that has no sugar. Holmes Smokehouse Garlic Pecan Smoked Sausage. Don't worry, it doesn't taste too garlicy (my SIL can taste the garlic but I can't... probably b/c I cook with a lot of garlic) and it doesn't taste smokey (I don't like smokey). Cut the link into 8 pieces (half, half, half) and lay in a skillet on medium heat. When one side is just about crispy then flip and let the other side get some heat. Let cool and I eat it with mustard. Now, I'm not a fan of keilbasa OR mustard... but I love the flavors together. 0 carbs and pretty good in calories.

You'll find a menu that works for you. Just remember, it's possible to get your calories without being overly stuffed (most days... )

Thank you for that information Jenn....reallly I do so appreciate it! I am having a terrible time getting in anything over 1200....I feel totally stuffed. I think the key is to increase my fats...I'm just guessing lol. Also, thanks I will try to find that brand of smoked sausage. I love smoked sausage and Hillshire Farms has corn syrup and msg....

Right now 1500 calories just seems like a lot but I'm trying.... Do you think that could be the reason why I am not losing weight? I'm beginning to wonder...but I am on meds and going through perimenopause....heavy sigh!

Anyway, thanks again and hope you are feeling better. Sorry to hear about your loss... I'm an emotional eater too, so I can relate!

TJ

[i.am.jenn]

The meds and perimenopause could be a definite reason why you aren't losing weight. Just my opinion.

When I first started eating to BMR my daily intake looked like this

B: Atkins Shake (I'm not much of a breakfast person)
L: 2 hamburger patties (about 1/2 lb of beef) and 2 cheese sticks
D: 2 chicken breasts, 1/2 to whole bag of frozen veggies and 2 cheese sticks
S: 23 almonds

If you drink coffee, 2 tbls of heavy cream is 100 calories I'm drinking 2 cups a day so thats 200 calories for me. A big big help.

Also, if you can find some, Virgin Coconut Oil is very high calorie and fat. Some people LOVE it. I've tried it in tea... I can barely choke it down. But I do if I need another 100 calories or so to meet my minimum. The upside is it doesn't leave me with that disgustingly overstuffed feeling.

I know that my metabolism went into starvation mode and I'm sure once I get my eating back under control that I'll start losing weight again. With your issues I'd say any loss is a good loss... does your scale measure in fractions of a pound?

I'd also say, make sure you're drinking tons of WATER daily. Gotta keep hydrated.

I gotta run to class. Take care!

[Ilpirata]

Hi TJ,
Welcome! You are right - the key to upping cals is adding fats. Are you using full fat salad dressing? Are you dressing your cooked vegetables with REAL butter? Are you making your tuna/egg/chicken salad with full fat mayo? Upping the fats is the best way to up your calories.
And yes i think you are also right that thhe 1000 cals a day may be contributing to your stall. I stalled out eating alot more than that - but still not enough cals for my own BMR. Glad you decided to give this a try. Its been the stall breaker for ALOT of us!

[i.am.jenn]

Wow... yesterday I didn't think I was close... today, I bombed... bad.

Calories 997
Fat 71.0 632 64 %
Saturated 34.0 302 30 %
Polyunsaturated 3.3 30 3 %
Monounsaturated 19.4 173 17 %
Carbohydrate 26.0 103 10 %
Dietary Fiber 9.8
Protein 63.3 260 26 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

I met a dog today and I'm really torn as to whether to adopt her or keep looking. I think that's why I have a stomach ache (and hence why I can't eat anymore today).

Tomorrow might be a better day. At least I'm eating LC again!!!

And yeah, I know the carbs are a bit high, but I had a Taco Salad without the shell (or as they've named it, Burrito Bowl) and there is a small scoop of black beans in there... but I black beans so I won't complain.

[skeeweeaka]

Originally Posted by jennbaker

The meds and perimenopause could be a definite reason why you aren't losing weight. Just my opinion.

When I first started eating to BMR my daily intake looked like this

B: Atkins Shake (I'm not much of a breakfast person)
L: 2 hamburger patties (about 1/2 lb of beef) and 2 cheese sticks
D: 2 chicken breasts, 1/2 to whole bag of frozen veggies and 2 cheese sticks
S: 23 almonds

If you drink coffee, 2 tbls of heavy cream is 100 calories I'm drinking 2 cups a day so thats 200 calories for me. A big big help.

Also, if you can find some, Virgin Coconut Oil is very high calorie and fat. Some people LOVE it. I've tried it in tea... I can barely choke it down. But I do if I need another 100 calories or so to meet my minimum. The upside is it doesn't leave me with that disgustingly overstuffed feeling.

I know that my metabolism went into starvation mode and I'm sure once I get my eating back under control that I'll start losing weight again. With your issues I'd say any loss is a good loss... does your scale measure in fractions of a pound?

I'd also say, make sure you're drinking tons of WATER daily. Gotta keep hydrated.

I gotta run to class. Take care!

Jenn...Thanks again for the advice. No my scale is an old model that doesn't measure in fractions at all... I'm trying to up my water as we speak but usually get in 64 ounces....aim for 96 ounces... I agree that perhaps I was in starvation mode, which might explain why when I changed plans I always lost weight initially...

Good luck in class!

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

Hi TJ,
Welcome! You are right - the key to upping cals is adding fats. Are you using full fat salad dressing? Are you dressing your cooked vegetables with REAL butter? Are you making your tuna/egg/chicken salad with full fat mayo? Upping the fats is the best way to up your calories.
And yes i think you are also right that thhe 1000 cals a day may be contributing to your stall. I stalled out eating alot more than that - but still not enough cals for my own BMR. Glad you decided to give this a try. Its been the stall breaker for ALOT of us!

Kisha...thanks for the welcome! Honestly, the only fat that I was eating was salad dressing and mayo sometimes... So I really have to make a conscious effort to add butter, cream, and healthy oils... I actually couldn't believe that I had been eating that few calories, I thought it was much more than that. So I'm glad that I started tracking it because it has been very enlightening...

Today I did well, but went over what my calorie range was, as well as my protein requirements...definitely need to work on this! My ratios were as follows:

Fat
( 68
%)Carbs
( 9
%)Protein
( 23
%)Alcohol
( 0
%)

TJ

[2muttsmom]

Jenn so sorry for your loss. I know how awful that is (I used to be 4muttsmom). Glad to see you back.

TJ!!

As Kisha said, alot of us were where you were. Never realized just what an appetite suppressing effect LC had till we sat down and added it up.

I got lazy last week - took a week off from work. I still stayed on plan but didn't push to my BMR - just ate till I was satisfied and stopped. Entered it into Fitday after the fact (rather than before as I was) and my calories were way too low. Actually bounced back up 2 pounds from the previous week's low.

So, I'm back. Here are my numbers for today as soon as I choke down my T of CO - now that it's getting cooler, it's no longer liquid and much harder to take. (Sorry, not doing the oil slick on my coffee or tea.)

alories
1,607

Fat 69%
Carbohydrate 5%
Protein 26%

[2muttsmom]

Originally Posted by jennbaker

And yeah, I know the carbs are a bit high,

Sweetie, your carbs are fine. The percentage is high due to your calories being so low.

Hang in there. It will get better.

[skeeweeaka]

Originally Posted by 2muttsmom

Jenn so sorry for your loss. I know how awful that is (I used to be 4muttsmom). Glad to see you back.

TJ!!

As Kisha said, alot of us were where you were. Never realized just what an appetite suppressing effect LC had till we sat down and added it up.

I got lazy last week - took a week off from work. I still stayed on plan but didn't push to my BMR - just ate till I was satisfied and stopped. Entered it into Fitday after the fact (rather than before as I was) and my calories were way too low. Actually bounced back up 2 pounds from the previous week's low.

So, I'm back. Here are my numbers for today as soon as I choke down my T of CO - now that it's getting cooler, it's no longer liquid and much harder to take. (Sorry, not doing the oil slick on my coffee or tea.)

alories
1,607

Fat 69%
Carbohydrate 5%
Protein 26%

Thanks Mom for the welcome.... I felt good yesterday after eating all of the fat, not stuffed which was good.... I guess I just need to back down on the protein and up the fat... Need to get to the grocery store today so that I can purchase some food that I can eat this week. Getting ready now to go out on my run and will see how my new dietary change affects my jogging...

Have a great day!

TJ