Accountability Not Excuses - May 2008

[heythatsfun]

Just a quick update before I go to bed tonight: in addition to what I ate earlier today, I had 2 scrambled eggs with cheddar cheese and then a chicken Caesar salad, plus 2 more cups of coffee .............................. and a scoop of peanut butter...... but shhh, we don't have to tell anyone about that! Geeze, this TOM this time is really getting to me I think! It's like I can't control meself, and that's scary!

[Bramble]

Originally Posted by Coconutty

Brief post, so I guess you had another tough day? If not, then I wanna give you a big hug anyway... Ok, now that the lovin' is over, do you mind explaining the no din din?

I can't get away with anything here, can I?
Ok I didn't have dinner cos, I had a huge argument with my mum. HUGE argument.

[Bramble]

I just weighed myself on two different scales and I'm 195 . I was 189.5 last weekend, it's so frekin frustrating. I'm not weighing myself again until June because at the moment I'm just thinking what's the point... I lose then gain then lose then gain then lose then gain and I'm not changing anything I'm doing I haven't cheated, I haven't had alcohol, blah!!
Anyway, I better eat something since I haven't eaten since this time yesterday, and then in a couple of hours I'm going swimming. I feel better for the exercise if nothing else, walking to work every day is doing me good even if it's not showing on the scale. And I love swimming . I just hate swimming costumes .

[aim in Fla*working]

may I join? I read your rules for being in this challenge and I can handle a kick in the butt and some tough love.
I am 136lbs.
I am STILL after 10 years trying to see 125.
I quit smoking in Nov. and went from 132 to 136. I have gone from a 127(2) to a 136(4) and it sounds like to many that at 5'5 and 1/2 that is a good weight..BUT I have fibromyalgia and every added pound often feels like 10. I have a size 3 ring finger and a 6 inch wrist. I need to be 120-125 to feel my best and my fram and joints are HATING this 10 lbs difference. I have been in a TON of challenges since I met this board in 99. However, they become too too social(I understand caring about each other...that is wonderful) but when the focus becomes dating, kids, portions of life NOT weight goal oriented 24/7 I feel like ...why am I here in this challenge...Then I joined one with non smokers who wanted to lose weight after quitting...but them that became an issue of "How to Stay Quit" rather than losing weight....to me quitting was easy...even after a 1-2 pack a day habit for 20 years. I DONT have to smoke...I DO HAVE TO EAT.
So, Maybe you want to kick me out because I am already sounding like a pain in the butt...I am looking for a challenge that is a WEIGHT LOSS CHALLENGE...with people who feel like weightloss is the goal.
*now....may I please join you??

[Coconutty]

Originally Posted by Bramble

I just weighed myself on two different scales and I'm 195 . I was 189.5 last weekend, it's so frekin frustrating. I'm not weighing myself again until June because at the moment I'm just thinking what's the point... I lose then gain then lose then gain then lose then gain and I'm not changing anything I'm doing I haven't cheated, I haven't had alcohol, blah!!
Anyway, I better eat something since I haven't eaten since this time yesterday, and then in a couple of hours I'm going swimming. I feel better for the exercise if nothing else, walking to work every day is doing me good even if it's not showing on the scale. And I love swimming . I just hate swimming costumes .

Yeah, problems with mom and the evil scale are very upsetting. I feel for you on that. But good job staying on plan and avoiding alcohol. And yes, the old gain/lose thing it extremely frustrating, but I just looked over your menus again to see where you may make some adjustments than might make a difference. For instance, I see that you are eating Ryvita breads, which are LC, but grains in themselves may slow down your loss. Maybe you can replace them with oopsie rolls. I was skeptical at first, but I experimented and added 2 tbls almond flour to the mixture and now I can almost convince myself that I am eating a grainy bread!! I also see that you are having sugar free sweets,which may also be affecting you, with all the sugar alcohol etc. Perhaps replacing those with some of the homemade treats Lei posted will help appease the sweet tooth and you know exactly what is in it. It's great that you're going swimming. Don't worry about how you look in the swim suit, I think that most people are too worried about how they themselves look, than to be worried about you. They make a lot of swim suits nowadays that are flattering to all kinds of figures, so get one that minimizes flaws/maximizes attributes, feel good about what you are doing for your health, and recognize that you look good!!!

I live 20 - 30 minutes away from several beaches, and it used to be that I never went although I love the beach. Then I got over the being self conscious, started to go regularly, and realized that very few people have "perfect" bodies. Most are just normal people just enjoying themselves, and there are a number of "big" women who strut their stuff in a 2 piece without a care in the world. I look at them and think how free they must feel, and I want to emulate them. Not with all my stuff hanging out , but being comfortable with myself in my own skin. KWIM?

Originally Posted by aim in Fla*working

may I join? I read your rules for being in this challenge and I can handle a kick in the butt and some tough love.
I am 136lbs.
I am STILL after 10 years trying to see 125.
I quit smoking in Nov. and went from 132 to 136. I have gone from a 127(2) to a 136(4) and it sounds like to many that at 5'5 and 1/2 that is a good weight..BUT I have fibromyalgia and every added pound often feels like 10. I have a size 3 ring finger and a 6 inch wrist. I need to be 120-125 to feel my best and my fram and joints are HATING this 10 lbs difference. I have been in a TON of challenges since I met this board in 99. However, they become too too social(I understand caring about each other...that is wonderful) but when the focus becomes dating, kids, portions of life NOT weight goal oriented 24/7 I feel like ...why am I here in this challenge...Then I joined one with non smokers who wanted to lose weight after quitting...but them that became an issue of "How to Stay Quit" rather than losing weight....to me quitting was easy...even after a 1-2 pack a day habit for 20 years. I DONT have to smoke...I DO HAVE TO EAT.
So, Maybe you want to kick me out because I am already sounding like a pain in the butt...I am looking for a challenge that is a WEIGHT LOSS CHALLENGE...with people who feel like weightloss is the goal.
*now....may I please join you??

Welcome and congrats on your quit!!! That is a huge accomplishment! If you want tough love you're in the right place. I you want to be shaken by the veggie police, you're also in the right place. What plan are you following??

[cdn_gal]

Originally Posted by Bramble

I lose then gain then lose then gain then lose then gain and I'm not changing anything I'm doing I haven't cheated, I haven't had alcohol, blah!!
Anyway, I better eat something since I haven't eaten since this time yesterday, and then in a couple of hours I'm going swimming. I feel better for the exercise

I'd like you to take a look at something... See below...

Originally Posted by Bramble

My menu today;

B: A piece of bacon grill
L: Ham, lettuce, tomato, cucumber, tuna
D: None
S: Sugar free werthers original

Originally Posted by Bramble

B: 2 Dark Rye Ryvita & cream cheese
L: Ham, lettuce, tomato, cream cheese, cottage cheese, yellow pepper, cucumber <<< LOOK, VEGGIES!
D: 2 Bacon, lettuce, tomato
S: Atkins Advantage chocolate yum
S: 4 sausages

Originally Posted by Bramble

B: 3 boiled eggs
L: 2 Ryvita with cream cheese, Atkins chocolate bar (I did just check which one it was but I've forgotten already and I really can't be bothered getting up to check again).
D: 3 bacon & 2 fried eggs

One more last one, in case you don't see where I'm going with this....

Originally Posted by Bramble

Breakfast: 3 boiled eggs
Lunch: None
Dinner: 2 slices ham and sprouts
Snacks: Dry roasted peanuts

These are the last few menu's you have posted... Can you see where I'm going yet? I don't see enough food there, to feed a bird with! How do you expect to lose weight, when your not eating??? For god's sake girl, EAT!!!! By you not eating, anything you put into your body, your body is hanging on to, for dear life! Thinking it's never going to get anything else.. 480 calories the last menu you posted... Um...hello girl?! You need to eat more! (oh yeah, and another day you had a whole whopping 360 calories) .. Little miss piggy eating ALL those 360 calories, and all in just 1 day! How dare you eat that much all in 1 day!

Seriously chica, humor me for a week.... I would like to see you drop the peanuts, drop the atkins bars, and eat lots of good, healthy foods for the next week... Lots of good healthy foods! 20 carbs worth! Think your up to the challenge? I would like to see at least 3 meals a day, with veggy's!

Something like this:

B~ 2 eggs, bacon or ham or sausages, with fats (cooked in or eaten)
L~ maybe more meat and a small salad
D~ more meat and veggy's, with fats (butter on the veggy's, etc)
S~ something healthy

Thats just an example, change it to however it works for you..
Just 1 little measly week....Thats all I'm asking... No processed junk, frankenfoods, etc.. Just lots of healthy, low carbed foods.. Think you can do it? Just one week...

Originally Posted by aim in Fla*working

So, Maybe you want to kick me out because I am already sounding like a pain in the butt...I am looking for a challenge that is a WEIGHT LOSS CHALLENGE...with people who feel like weightloss is the goal.
*now....may I please join you??

Don't you dare go anywhere! You sound like you'd fit right in here! Looking forward to getting to know you Aim, and reaching our goals together!

Off to work, will post again later when I have a few minutes..

all round

[aim in Fla*working]

Originally Posted by Coconutty

Yeah, problems with mom and the evil scale are very upsetting. I feel for you on that. But good job staying on plan and avoiding alcohol. And yes, the old gain/lose thing it extremely frustrating, but I just looked over your menus again to see where you may make some adjustments than might make a difference. For instance, I see that you are eating Ryvita breads, which are LC, but grains in themselves may slow down your loss. Maybe you can replace them with oopsie rolls. I was skeptical at first, but I experimented and added 2 tbls almond flour to the mixture and now I can almost convince myself that I am eating a grainy bread!! I also see that you are having sugar free sweets,which may also be affecting you, with all the sugar alcohol etc. Perhaps replacing those with some of the homemade treats Lei posted will help appease the sweet tooth and you know exactly what is in it. It's great that you're going swimming. Don't worry about how you look in the swim suit, I think that most people are too worried about how they themselves look, than to be worried about you. They make a lot of swim suits nowadays that are flattering to all kinds of figures, so get one that minimizes flaws/maximizes attributes, feel good about what you are doing for your health, and recognize that you look good!!!

I live 20 - 30 minutes away from several beaches, and it used to be that I never went although I love the beach. Then I got over the being self conscious, started to go regularly, and realized that very few people have "perfect" bodies. Most are just normal people just enjoying themselves, and there are a number of "big" women who strut their stuff in a 2 piece without a care in the world. I look at them and think how free they must feel, and I want to emulate them. Not with all my stuff hanging out , but being comfortable with myself in my own skin. KWIM?



Welcome and congrats on your quit!!! That is a huge accomplishment! If you want tough love you're in the right place. I you want to be shaken by the veggie police, you're also in the right place. What plan are you following??

Atkins ALways has been atkins. I do have a Jay Robb protein shake as mean replacement when i am busy..
I am restarting induction again today....I had Korean food and I thought something tasted sweet and they said it was eel sauce and ti was naturally sweet. I told them i could not have sugar at all due to diabetes (not true...I am not diabetic but I do this some times to get a word of honor that there is no sugar....)....they said NO SUGAR.
I woke up and felt stiff. I KNOW when i had sugar...fibro flares up HUGE....so I wanted to do induction for a dew days then ongoing. Thanky ou for the welcome
And shake me till I rattle...I WANT 125. If I can quit, I can do this...but I need support.

[aim in Fla*working]

Thanks for the welcome
I am getting to it right now.
Today...
1 cup of coffee with stevia and 2 tablespoons of cream.
2 diet cokes and I am starting water now. I usually drink 100 oz like reliqion but sometimes I drink more.
Breakfast- Jay Robb Whey shake with only water, ice, and egg whites.
Lunch-cheese and ham roll up
Dinner...OUtback 9 0z filet rare, asparagus, cesear salad(2 cups of romaine lettuce and no croutons and dressing on the side....I am a dipper...it is amazing how much LESS dressing you use)
That is it for today....

[Coconutty]

yesterday's menu:
b: 2 salmon cakes, 1 oopsie roll, coffee
l: hot wings, garden salad w/ranch dressing, coffee
d: steak and smashed cauli
water: 3 liters
exercise: rest day

I realized we haven't seen Lucy in a few. WHERE ARE YOU LUCY, YOU GOT SOME SPLAININ' TO DO!!!

I have been to doing some reading and thinking (always a dangerous combo for me). Every time I've done LC successfully (mostly Atkins) I lose about 20 - 25 lbs during the first three months, then everything comes to a screeching halt, no loss of pounds or inches for months, and no amount of eating "clean" seemed to help. Then I gave up. From what I'm reading, I think my metabolism adjusts too well to this woe for fat loss. So I am thinking that I should try a slightly different plan this time around, while I'm still making progress and before I get too discouraged and frustrated. So I'm going to try the cyclic ketogenic diet. Basically you eat induction level carbs for 6 days, then on the 7rh day you eat a small amount of carbs, do a glucose depleting workout and refeed w/carbs for the rest of the day. The next day it's back to induction level. The reason why it works is on this thread: Fat loss with ketogenic: cyclical & targeted ketogenic w/weight training
I have built my strength enough w/T-Tapp that I think I can use it for my depleting workout. I'm going to start it today and see how it pans out at the end of the week.

As for progress, I am down another pound today, but may be retaining some water, because I still have some soreness in my thighs from my wed & thurs workout. My measurements are down slightly and....beware this is ....my double butt has all but disappeared. Yes, I was developing a double butt, you know how you get a double boob when you a spilling out of a too small bra, I was developing something similar on my booty. And since I never had much booty to begin with, I guess it's my last to gain, first to lose area. Anyhoo, I'm off to work my now single behind off. BBL....

[*KatNip*]

Hey ladies! was I missed?

I have ben super duper busy, mt carpets were cleaned today so i spent the last couple of days clearing the furniture and cleaning and I am learning how to sew and have been practicing my photography. I"m so tired. Still on plan though. I gained weight probably because I added yogurt this week, I've only had it twice, i hope its just my body getting used to a new food after a few months of not having it. Im sooooooo happy i added dairy back, next week is Kefir. I'm still staying between 20-25g of carbs, i cant seem to go past that.

anyhowe just wanted to let you all know that Im still here!!

[lcq]

I definitely won't be here early tomorrow.....but once i get a chance on the puter I will AT LEAST post my menu
After church I will be with my Mom and later my brother, his DW, my DH and my Dad are taking my mom out for MOTHERS DAY dinner

My brother wanted to do Din SUm...but I objected because or my Low carbing so eventually they changed the reservation to dinner.....I am really changing ......a couple of months ago i would not have said a thing and I am sure I would have messed up my diet because what choices could i really get at Dinsum.......also my brother is SUPPOSED to be lowcabing too, so I am surprised he would pick such a place..anyways all is well i must be able to get some meat , veggies and salad at a chinese restaurant

DH is being a real sweetheart....he is going to take me out in awhile but it is a Mothers day surprise ...so i just have to get ready and see where we are going...I love surprises


Teresa,.......I am following your meal listings like M1 M2 etc instead of B, L & D since i really don't eat on time....and many times I am saying lunch when in fact I have eaten at 3 or 4pm......so i think your way makes more sense


yesterday

M1 - 2 scrambled eggs & salami & water
M2 - buttered almonds with splenda 7 cinnamon (Thanks Anna YUMMO)
M3 - hamburger with 1 cheese slice & salad
M4 - fish spread & peanut crackers
M5 - Peppermint tea with cream & splenda
M6 - cheese slices on peanut crackers

2185cal 37g


I was surprised that almonds contain so many carbs and calories 2oz were 10g and 300+ cals.......but they still helpped me yesterday so I am happy




Anna - you know I think you are doing great ...you are keeping your cheats legal and I think that is soo important




Leanne - Lei & Alisa have said it all......so we will be monitoring you next week





Lei - I know you are busy entertaining now but don't forget my recipes please....I will remind you again if I don't get them by next Wednesday...OK Ginko Girl



Alisa.....Hey i have thaat Fatloss with ketogenic-cyclical-targeted-ketogenic-w-weight-training thread bookmarked becasue it is something I am most definitely interested in.....it's just right now ...being in One thread is all I can handle......so I will be keeping tabs on your menus and progress because I believe keeping your body guessing really works



Lucy......I was just going to send out the Brigade for you if you did not show up today.....even if you can't post alot....try to at least post your menu or say a quick HI so we know you are OK



aim in Fla*working............you have figured out why this thread was created...the main focus is on WEIGHt LOSS but we have fun doing it........so what is you name and send me your measurements and current weight please so i can add it on our monthly chart

Everyone else ....will talk to you later

[Bramble]

Hey everyone,

Thank you Alisa, Lei and Lisa. I didn't realise, ok that's a lie straight up, I do know that I don't eat much, because people tell me I don't eat much all the time (I had a salad at work a few days last week and one of the women there was like wow.. that's the most I've seen you eat since you've been here.. A SALAD!), I'm just never hungry. I didn't realise how much of the stuff I eat is processed convenient rubbish . I'm so lazy, Ryvita is just so quick and easy, the peanuts were because my Ryvita went soggy at work lol and that's the only other thing I had with me... I hate cooking. I'm usually not speaking to my mum so whatever she cooks for dinner I refuse to eat (childish I know) and then I can't be bothered cooking for myself. I cooked for everyone yesterday and then didn't eat it because I had an argument with her.
Sugar free sweets... I dunno why I eat them, I didn't eat sweets before anyway, so I will drop those. The Atkins chocolate though... it's either that or normal chocolate. I didn't think I ate them that much but seeing all of those menus together... (thank you Lei...). I will reduce how many of them I've having, maybe limit myself to one a week, if I really really really really want chocolate.
I stopped counting calories and stuff in what I eat because I just get obsessed with calories and freak out if it goes over 1200. I KNOW I shouldn't focus on calories and fat, but I do. Brainwashed.
These aren't excuses by the way, they are reasons, and I need to change.
I'm going to totally give up the coffee because I'm sure I'm getting a lot of carbs that I'm choosing to ignore from the milk. I have been drinking less coffee but still way too much. Is herbal tea ok or does that have carbs too? I will also start drinking water....!
Planning my meals ahead might be a good start, rather than trying to find something at 5 to 6 in the morning to eat for breakfast and something to take to work with me when I have to leave the house at 6. I'll track what I'm eating so I know what I am actually eating rather than guessing whether I've had too many carbs, or not enough protein or calories. It's going to be hard not getting too caught up in calories and fat though. Ok Lei, I will make my menu look like that for the next week. If I get fatter, I will shout at you. Then cry lol.
Ok that's enough babbling. My menu for today (and I'm immune from being shouted at today because I didn't read these messages till AFTER I'd already eaten).

B: None
L: Chicken breast, cauliflower, onion, diet coke, tbsp ketchup, tsp Lea and Perrins, 1/4 cup light whipping cream, tbsp butter (what I made for dinner for everyone yesterday then didn't eat- I had what was left).
D: 3 boiled eggs with butter.
S: Atkins advantage chocolate brownie bar

Cals: 912 Carbs: 14 (I know the Atkins bar has like 14g total but I only count the net carbs in them, otherwise I'd cry, everything else I count total carbs), Fat: 48, Protein: 89

I went swimming .

What are oopsie rolls by the way??

(Sorry about the really long post.. if anyone actually reads it all they deserve a medal).

[cdn_gal]

Originally Posted by Bramble

(Sorry about the really long post.. if anyone actually reads it all they deserve a medal).

Of course were gonna read it silly girl, we care about you and your health...(as we do everyone who is part of our group)

Just for week, I don't want you to even think about calories or fat consumed in one day..Starting tomorrow, first thing, get on your scale and weigh yourself.. You can keep it to yourself if that makes you feel better, as long as you weigh! I'm going to try and show you, that weightloss CAN be achieved through Atkins, eating calories AND healthy fats..

As for things to eat during the day... Make extra at dinner, and have those for breakfast or lunch...That way you don't have to worry about it at 6 in the morning..

Coffee, you don't have to stop drinking coffee, just when you do have coffee, use half and half, or perferably whipping cream as the whitener, very yummy, filling and NO carbs.. If you like sugar in your coffee, try a SF flavoring of some kind.. (my favorite is vanilla) Tea is also a very good choice for a hot beverage... Or Hot chocolate, yes you can have it if made with cocoa and splenda, AND you can even have a blob of whipped cream in it! Imagine that huh? Eating those kind of things AND losing weight?! Who'da thunk it? (wait till I tell you how much mayo I slather on my omelet in the morning when I'm doing a week of Atkin's)

Just a week my dear, what do you have to loose? A few pounds would be nice huh? Eat nothing that has sugar on the ingredients list, eat meats till your full, a small salad a day, and veggy's!! Slathered with butter! (butter, not margarine)

Can't wait to see your menu's! I'm excited for you!!

ETA~ These are better then the rev rolls!
The Lighter Side of Low-Carb: Oopsies on the Road

[aim in Fla*working]

Originally Posted by lcq

aim in Fla*working............you have figured out why this thread was created...the main focus is on WEIGHt LOSS but we have fun doing it........so what is you name and send me your measurements and current weight please so i can add it on our monthly chart

I am Aim for Amy....
I am 5.5 and 1/2
I weigh 136
Goal 125
Measurments-waist is 29.5-Goal 25Hips 37..5-Goal 36

I want to get there so bad...when is weigh in..I just weighed and measured today
I was once .25 and inch from all goals and weighed 127

[Teresa123]

Evening all! Only a minute to scan the posts and see we have a newcomer! Welcome Aim--glad to have you here! We do have fun (well, they do, I'm usually working when all the fun happens!) but I think we are a group of gals that are pretty darn serious about losing weight and figuring out how to maintain once we get there--so I think you'll fit right in!

I'm trying to remember my eats for today...
b: omelet and OMM w/cr cheese
l: hamburger, cottage cheese, green bean casserole
d: same as lunch but take out cottage cheese and add pb cheesecake muffin

I almost went over the deep end last night. I'm beginning to see that Thursdays and Fridays are hard for me, not exactly sure why. I do fine on the weekends. Maybe it's because my weeks are so long and I just feel like I need a break or something at that point. Anyway, I made it through even after I told myself "who cares" and almost had something very evil. Today I feel fine food/craving wise but remind me that I shouldn't go shopping when I am this close to a binge...those mirrors are really depressing! Luckily I have been up since about 4am (damn ketosis) so I'm exhausted and going to hit the hay soon. I'll check in in the morning tomorrow so I can go back and read all the posts and get caught up.

Nighty night!

[heythatsfun]

Ugh, so sorry I haven't posted! I haven't even had time to get onto the internet today at all! I've felt just kind of "off" and dizzy/tired. I think it is a combination of allergies and this persistent ear infection I have. The antibiotic can cause you to feel a little loopy I guess too (according to the side effects I've read about and me pharmacist).. Yuck, I just can't wait for this allergy season to be over and for me course of antibiotics to be through. I can't even remember what I ate today... how strange is that!? I think I had an egg with some cheese, some coffee, some toasted flax seeds, and a salad w/ chicken. Not much, but I'm not really hungry.

I hope to be able to update more tomorrow and I really hope that all of you are doing well (I haven't had a chance to read all the posts from today yet)!!! Will talk soon! Good night all!