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[Lost and Found]

Good morning...Jean!!!

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Pear...I hope that your back is feeling better soon.

I CARE WHAT THE SCALE SAYS!!!! I didn't just do this to lose weight for vanity reasons. I could care a less what other's think of me. And, I sure don't want to be in any relationship right now. I HAVE to lose the weight. This NEEDS to happen to get rid of my sleep apnea...which is ruining my metabolism, and my heart.

According to the doctor....my carb, and caffeine, addiction is a direct result of my sleep apnea.....I filled myself with carbs and caffeine to "stay awake". More like...to function. The only way to reverse this...is by losing the weight. So, I gave up carbs, and caffeine. This whole journey...I have been fighting against my bodies "needs". Do you understand what I mean?

Yes, my clothes are fitting better. BUT, on my frame...11 pounds is alot. I do not carry my weight very good at all. I say that my things fit better because I've lost 11 pounds. (Which is nothing compared to many others who have been on this as strictly as I....for 1 1/2 months.) Heck...there's people dropping 20 pounds a month on some of the challenges.

I do not have more energy. I'm tired all of the time. I feel that this is because I'm not eating the carbs, or drinking the caffeine, to function...and counteract my sleep apnea. I, to try and explain what I mean, am at an even kill tired all day long. Before (with the carbs and caffeine) it was energy...then, crash....energy....then, crash.....energy!!! See what I mean?

What I meant by starting to feel like another failure is....diets seem to be big failures to me. Since I'm not experiencing the weight loss...this is just starting to feel like "just another diet", as my making "better choices" is not showing on the scale. Do you know what I mean?

Good morning Click, I've missed you.

Warning! Now, Momma Jean is going to take over here. Warning!

What part of 'you are not losing fat if you lose more than 1/2 to 1 lb. a week' don't you understand? You are right on target for better health.

When you lost the 11 lbs. at first it was water weight, now your body is losing the fat and balancing out. Perhaps people that are losing too fast are losing muscle. How could that be healthy?

Number two: If you aren't eating enough carbs and logging what you eat to make sure, you are not going to lose fat. If you need help learning how to do that, please ask, I'll walk you through it.

Number three: Using all of the other methods will help you IF you are eating correctly. If you don't read the book, how can you know if you are doing it correctly?

The info we give you is spotty at best and I don't think it is soaking in. Until you can see the whole picture, you just can't get it.

Don't do more harm to your body by starving it and keeping your food intake unbalanced. You also need lots of natural vitamins and bulk from your food.

Most of our accomplishments are gained by hard work. Until you understand your bodies needs and what is realistic, you will be bouncing all over the place. I don't want to see you sabotage yourself because you haven't done the homework.

We can support you and tell you over and over what works for us but until you actually know what you are doing, it could be counterproductive to your health issues.

Please know that I share this with you with love.


Momma Jean

[Lost and Found]

I hope that you guys understand what I meant in my post. I'm not trying to sound negative...by any means. It's just that when I quit breathing 5-7x's/hour in my sleep.....it's ruining alot of things for me. This had been mis-diagnosed as depression for years. I argued with the doctors over this!!! Finally, the medical community started reasearching what the lack of sleep does physically, and mentally, to a person. I, went and had the sleep study done....and, finally....there is reason for why I have felt like crap for so long now. It has been very difficult giving up the things that "keep me going". I knew that this wasn't going to be easy...as carbs and caffeine were my bodies fuel....just to manage getting through a day. I just thought that.....I wouldn't be sitting at the same weight now for nearly a month....and when I feel this tired....sometimes....I can't help, but to think of my old "fuel"....as it did work for a short time. My day used to consist of carbing-up, getting things done, taking a nap, carbing-up again, getting things done, taking a nap....so on, and so on!!!

[Lost and Found]

By the way...I did get the book (Dr. A's New Diet Revolution), and have read, not all, but...most of it.

Also, since my body is in the state of sleep 24 hrs. a day...I often wonder if my body is trying to hang on to everything....as I try to fight against it?

[Lost and Found]

Thanks Jean.

So....basically....after 1 1/2 months.....I've lost water weight? Those first intitial 11 pounds is ALL that I have lost.

[Lost and Found]

BY THE WAY....

I "thank" everyone for telling me tips on little things that work for them. When you have three weeks of no change....except for the initial 11 pounds of water weight (which could've been gotten rid of with a short fast and an enema) one might feel that...maybe...trying something a little different (other's tips) might make all of the difference....as I would think that this would be a way of learning my own bodies reactions to things.

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Thanks Jean.

So....basically....after 1 1/2 months.....I've lost water weight? Those first intitial 11 pounds is ALL that I have lost.

First off, congratulations on getting the book, that was a huge step in the right direction.

The first weight was water weight but as you have continued, that loss was replaced with fat loss. So now the water weight is balanced, the fat loss took over the water loss.

After you body adjusts to the lack of excess carbs, not the good ones that you really need, your physical addiction is gone after six weeks, that includes caffeine. It may be a mental thing now. I just don't think you are getting enough good food, period.


Momma Jean

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

BY THE WAY....

I "thank" everyone for telling me tips on little things that work for them. When you have three weeks of no change....except for the initial 11 pounds of water weight (which could've been gotten rid of with a short fast and an enema) one might feel that...maybe...trying something a little different (other's tips) might make all of the difference....as I would think that this would be a way of learning my own bodies reactions to things.

And when you ate and drank again, it would be right back!

[jeanran]

It wouldn't be FAT loss. Isn't that what you are after?

[Tooter]

LF sometimes it takes our bodies a little Time to Repair. Ever hear of the book/diet The schwarzbein principle? It's by a Dcotor, an endocrinologist (not a DIET doctor). Dr. Diana Schwarzbein.

Anyways, she pretty much found out on her own that Low carb is the better way to go for health. Being that she is an endocrinologist, she knows how our hormones work and how if you upset ONE, all the other hormone systems will also be upset.

She talks about healing our Metabs. That it "takes" time for some. That some people won't lose for awhile while the body is healing. Some will actually GAIN weight!

This could be what is going on with you. The lack of sleep, hormones off...etc.
I know that it's frustrating and it doesn't seem fair. Just try to "hang on" and continue eating this way and Learn as much as you can.


Now, remember me talking about how all of a sudden I lost weight fast? How I jumped a size every two weeks?

I think this is what happened to me. Finally my Metab was healing and my hormones balanced out.

[Tooter]

Think about it, your former diet and the Sleep apnea has taken a toll on your body. I'm sure the effects are on your thyroid, Adrenal glands etc... Effecting all your hormone systems.

Maybe your body is just trying to "heal" that right now.

Something I have found with Healing...You gain weight. Is it water retention to try and heal? I don't know. In your case, you have stayed the same...Which "I" would think would mean...If you weren't in the process of "healing" you would actually be losing.


This isn't BS. Truly our bodies need some time to heal from all that we have done to them.

Tonight I'll go find her 2nd book that I have. It talks about "healing" the metab and I could post some stuff on here about it.

I think it also was a shock to your system to stop the coffee. She states in some cases (I believe with the Adrenal Gland) that you have to SLOWLY go off that.

Maybe you should have a little coffee each day to help?

Does this make any sense to you, or do I sound like I am smoking crack?

[Tooter]

Ok, the room is silent. You all think I'm smoking crack, don't you?

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Think about it, your former diet and the Sleep apnea has taken a toll on your body. I'm sure the effect are on your thyroid, Adrenal glands etc... Effecting all your hormone systems.

Maybe your body is just trying to "heal" that right now.

Something I have found with Healing...You gain weight. Is it water retention to try and heal? I don't know. In your case, you have stayed the same...Which "I" would think would mean...If you weren't in the process of "healing" your would actually be losing.


This isn't BS. Truly our bodies need some time to heal from all that we have done to them.

Tonight I'll go find her 2nd book that I have. It talks about "healing" the metab and I could post some stuff on here about it.

I think it also was a shock to your system to stop the coffee. She states in some cases (I believe with the Adrenal Gland) that you have to SLOWLY go off that.

Maybe you should have a little coffee each day to help?

Does this make any sense to you, or do I sound like I am smoking crack?

Not crack...Tooter...but....:hyst :

Yes...it makes sense. I used to drink 2 2liters of diet pepsi...every single day. My thyroid test came back slightly hypo, but not bad enough to medicate. I, although am not a professional, feel that some days my thyroid works properly...and some days it doesn't.

I guess, at this point, since I've been eating my veggies and protein and fat.....there's nothing else that I can contibute this stall to.

I, also, would enjoy hearing what she said in your second book. I have been reading so much...since starting this new woe that it feels that my head is . There is so much contradicting info out there that I even mixed up the veggie amounts in my head.

So far today:

3 tblsp. EVCO
vitamins

3 scrammbled eggs-in a 1/4 stick butter

fresh broccoli and cauliflower-dunked in mayo w/ splenda

[Tooter]

She also talks about how we have these hormone Diet related diseases. That most of them ARE from diet. Some, are actually from a disease of the organ, tissue, and/or gland. In those cases (or if the diet related disease has gone to far) you do need help and meds for that.

Most will heal (if they are diet related) with time and the proper diet.

It's a really interesting book.

Consider drinking a little coffee. It never effected my weight loss (Nor Winslows if you remember).

I used to drink enough coffee to Kill a small elephant!! Now? It's about 2 cups a day...sometimes 3. I'm on an even keel....but it sure didn't start out that way.

Maybe My adrenal gland was effected...and it healed.


I think too...That when this happens (not losing weight) people get desperate and don't want to be patient. They try anything for a "quick fix" to try and get the scales moving. unfortunately, that can cause even More damage to our metabs and hormone systems and things can get even worse.

[Lost and Found]

I just would like to take the time to...once again...thank EVERYONE here.

This has been a real battle for me. Those who have never experienced, or don't know all of the fact about sleep apnea, might think that I am over-reacting. I'm Not!!! This has been a real difficult thing to do.....my body screams for things to remain awake....and I used to exist off of only carbs and caffeine....even though it was just a snow ball effect fix. Carbs to stay awake, more weight gain, worse sleep apnea.....Carbs to stay awake, more weight gain, worse sleep apnea, etc....

Any one that "physically" knows me...knows that something was wrong...this weight didn't just come on slowly...it happened---80 pounds in less than a year!!!

[Lost and Found]

As stubborn as I am....I'm not giving up!!! I'm just tired of being tired!!!! Maybe...my hormones will get straightened out...maybe, they won't. But, atleast, I made the effort to try!!! (And it has been a REAL effort)

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

As stubborn as I am....I'm not giving up!!! I'm just tired of being tired!!!! Maybe...my hormones will get straightened out...maybe, they won't. But, atleast, I made the effort to try!!! (And it has been a REAL effort)

I did some quick reading. The Adrenal gland also gets effected from Stress (Gee, that doesn't sound like you at all) Also, if you have been a heavy coffee drinker, smoker and alcohol drinker.

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Are Your Adrenal Glands Healthy or Burned Out?

Your adrenal glands make both adrenaline and cortisol. Years of over-secreting these two hormones can burn out your adrenal glands. If you have burned out your adrenal glands, you need to restore their function before you can achieve optimum health.

You have healthy adrenal glands if you can stop all your high adrenaline and/or cortisol habits cold turkey without experiencing withdrawal symptoms and completely falling apart emotionally and/or physically.

If you are addicted to white sugar, caffeine, nicotine, diet pills, alcohol, over-exercising and/or street drugs, or if you are always tired, have a "fuzzy" brain or cannot handle stressful situations, your adrenal glands are probably burned out or you are self-medicating to continue your high stress lifestyle.


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Maybe you DO need a little coffee to help you out right now. Don't go back to drinking a "ton" of it...but to help you along at this time. She talks about the need to do that as the adrenal gland heals. You almost tried to do everything COLD TURKEY!!! Not a good thing (remember me saying that when you wanted to stop smoking too)?

What do ya think?

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

As stubborn as I am....I'm not giving up!!! I'm just tired of being tired!!!! Maybe...my hormones will get straightened out...maybe, they won't. But, atleast, I made the effort to try!!! (And it has been a REAL effort)

Honey, you have done AMAZING!! Yep, you have really showed your Scottish side! Now, we just need to get a little "Wisdom" on what is going on with you.
We will figure it out.

But, truly, you have done GREAT!!!!!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Honey, you have done AMAZING!! Yep, you have really showed your Scottish side! Now, we just need to get a little "Wisdom" on what is going on with you.
We will figure it out.

But, truly, you have done GREAT!!!!!!!

Thanks, Tooter!!!

Soooooooo.....you do not think that your description describes me at all? (Tee Hee Hee!!!)

I've been trying to figure this out long enough (That's why I kept going to different doctors...until I finally found the last doctor. He knew something was up with my rapid weight gain. He didn't just write it off as depression...like so many doctors try to label everything. He first checked my thyroid. Then, since that wasn't way out of wack...he sent me to a sleep specialist, and that's how I found out about sleep apnea.)....enough is enough I said the day after thanksgiving...and that's how I ended-up here.

[Tooter]

So the "Better Choice" for you right now, might be to have some coffee and some of those diet sodas. Just not as much as you used to.

This is what I mean about "Better Choices" and not "Perfect Choices".

Sometimes those choices that seem PERFECT can really mess ya up. There is no such thing as a "Perfect choice" only a "Better one".


You might just need a little "help" right now, with the Coffee/caffeine thing, until your Adrenal gland and Sleep apnea start to heal up.

[Tooter]

Here's a "deep Thought" for the day.

The older I get, the more I realize that there is no black and white. Only many different shades of gray.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Here's a "deep Thought" for the day.

The older I get, the more I realize that there is no black and white. Only many different shades of gray.

HOW TRUE!!!!!

I wish that I liked coffee!!! I've tried it every which way...and still...I never could drink the stuff!!!

And...yes...I also have a problem with perfectionism. I always try to make the "perfect" choices....when, in reality...most of the time I should quit trying for perfect...and strive for the "best" choice.

[Tooter]

Ok, So far today:


2 cups of coffee with cream and a piece of low carb peanut butter fudge

1 cup of hot tea with Coconut oil and Stevia.

1 glass of ACV on the rocks with Water and liquid stevia.

Hamburger wrapped in Romaine lettuce with Mayo.

Cup of Tea with CO and Stevia and a Piece of LC Peanut butter Fudge


Tossed Salad with veggies and some cheese. Olive oil and AC Vinegar dressing

1 Glass of ACV on the rocks with Water and Stevia.



Later tonight, I will have low carb BBQ pulled pork and Broccoli with butter.


* I have left over boneless pork from New years day, I'll just make a BBQ sauce for it tonight.


If I get hungry later (after dinner) I will have some Pork Cracklings and Cream cheese mixed with Salsa