Old Timers and Newbies!

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Tooter

LOL I love you! *giggle* My Brother is a retired Lt. Col in the Army, One of my Sons was a Marine (Opps IS--Once a Marine always a Marine) My Father was in the Navy and my FIL was in the Air Force.

I wasn't mad or anything, I was "Teasing". There were some military "Jokes" mixed in with my post.

Do you know what the names stand for (These are jokes)

MARINES (My Ass Rides IN Navy Equipment) Why? Because the Marines are a division of the Navy but seperate. This is also where you get the "Men's department" joke.

ARMY (Aren't Really Marines Yet)! LOL (My brother hated that joke from my son...but he DID laugh).





I was just teasing ya!

Tooter, that is so funny, I haven't heard the one about the ARMY before and I've heard a lot!

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Jean, I hope you don't wear yourself out before David get's there. Better double up on the vitamins!

Good idea, Tooter, I'm off to buy extra vitamin C as soon as I get off here.

[jeanran]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Yeah.....you should be saving up all of that pent-up energy...and spend it on him!!!

Boy!!!! He'd be in for it, and wonder what the heck?

Oh no, never fear, that would never happen! just waiting since Oct. will be enough.

[jeanran]

I hope everyone is feeling better, sorry about all of the snow, I hope everyone stays safe.

I will try to answer more posts but I'm off to breaky and more shopping.

BFN..

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Guys, about the way I am eating right now. Well, Of COARSE you couldn't do it right now. Don't forget, I have been doing low carb for a long time now. Remember it takes at least 18 months to get over an addiction.

The other thing is, This is NEW to me and it's just not about weight. There is IBS and then there are "other" Symptoms.

Guess what? I felt Tired this morning and I had to take a nap. Co-winky dink? I think not. I think it had to do with what I ate for dinner last night. See, that's how this works, symptoms will come back and you have to be aware of them. They might not be "Weight gain" but it can be other things. What I am trying to find right now is a "Balance". There is always a price to pay, but is it huge? Will I be able to "balance" it?

I Have found out I can eat them without weight gain, but now I have to figure out "How often" I can have them without Other symptoms. If I don't address this (From my years of experience) You then find that you do the "Carb Creep" and slowly all your symptoms come back and the next thing you know...You are back to where you were BEFORE you started low carb.

Yes, I can relax a little, but Now I need to keep a "Balance" and be "Aware".

Today is more of a clean low carb day.

Did that make any sense, what I said? LOL

Yes...Tooter!!! I "GET" what you're saying!!!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

Yes, Click, and I have his picture right here next to my screen.

Well, I'm pretty selfish with my 'service men', Click. There's nothing like a man in uniform! Are you sure you just want them for their muscle?

Olive Oil! I see you're thinking thin.

Yes!!!!! Just their muscles!!!! The last thing that I need right now...is more than that!!!!



Yes!!!! Very thin....like I used to be!!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

Oh no, never fear, that would never happen! just waiting since Oct. will be enough.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

Oh, believe me, I am taking my vitamins. Everyone around me has been sick. Chelli and Amanda and Bud have had this for a week and on meds, really down and yesterday Nick had to go to Urgent Care he was feeling so bad.

I worried that since losing weight, in itself, is stressful for the body, what else can I do to stay healthy for David's visit. Please, everyone, keep your fingers crossed and say a for me. I can't take this to my 91 year old Uncle and he would be devastated if we couldn't come.

Yes, Tooter, I'm getting ready for my white glove inspection!

Jean...fingers crossed, and sent your way!!!!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by jeanran

OMG, do you ever know the Marines, Tooter! I almost fell out of my chair when I read this! Like they say, 'Once a Marine, always a Marine!' You have definitely been indoctrinated! There is nothing like the pride and bearing of a Marine or former Marine.

Ooh-RAH! SEMPER FI!!!!!!

Jean, when My son Graduated USMC Bootcamp and we went down for the Graduation...Hubby bought me a USMC Winter Coat. I have worn it all the time ever since. I wear it proudly like some woman wear a mink coat. My little PT cruiser that I drive? My Son and all his Marine friends call it the MOTOMobile. Yes, I proudly have stickers and support the troops all over it. I also can "spot" a Marine anywhere I go. They don't need a uniform for me to see them. I know that you know what I mean. To everyone else reading, there is a way they "stand", Walk and Carry themselves.

Once a Marine, always a Marine is very true. You are always a part of the brotherhood and I can't even tell you how often I run into Marines. It truly is a "Family" and they truly take care of their own.

Even in the Grocery store, the Cashier saw my Jacket and said "Do you have a son in the Marines"? We got to talking and her son was going through bootcamp. We hugged, cried and shared stuff together. Each visit to the Grocery store I made, she sought me out and updated me. When she got back from his graduation...We Hugged and shared the Joy. Of coarse her son is daily in my prayers.

WWII and Marine Vietnam Vets Come up to me (because of my car or my jacket) and they talk to me and share things that they wouldn't with others. To say I feel honored and in awe is an understatement. It truly is the most amazing thing. Mothers who have son's in Iraq come up to me and not just Marine Moms but Army Moms. We Start talking and sharing.


To those of you reading who don't know much about the Marines...They are the SMALLEST Military division. I believe there is only, something like 50,000 active as to the Army having about 400,000 active.

It is the hardest and roughest bootcamp to go through.

Thus the famous slogan... "The Few, The Proud, The Marines".

I remember the day well, when My son finally "Earned" the Title "Marine".

Yes, I am proud of the Marines, but I also love (and pray for) all our Troops.
I always thought I had a great respect for the Military, but it's nothing to how I feel about them now. It goes very deep in my heart.

[Lost and Found]

Sooooo...Tooter!!!!


How come I'm tired then? I didn't eat stuffing or mashed potatos/gravy?



Just a question to hear your opinion? "Normal" people should be able to eat these things on occassion...without any problems. Why is it different for us? Do you think that eating low-carb trains our bodies to be intolerable of them?

[Ailuros]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Sooooo...Tooter!!!!


How come I'm tired then? I didn't eat stuffing or mashed potatos/gravy?



Just a question to hear your opinion? "Normal" people should be able to eat these things on occassion...without any problems. Why is it different for us? Do you think that eating low-carb trains our bodies to be intolerable of them?

I used to be really tired every afternoon if I had potatoes at lunch in the canteen of the offices where I used to work. That was long before I ever heard of low carb. My father always goes off to the lounge for a nap after a big Sunday lunch. I think people just regard it as normal, or don't even notice it. Then, you get used to not feeling that way, and you also develop a habit of noticing how you react to food, so you just become more aware of your reactions.

Of course, not everybody reacts that way - but most of us ended up here because we don't do well with lots of carbs.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Ailuros

I used to be really tired every afternoon if I had potatoes at lunch in the canteen of the offices where I used to work. That was long before I ever heard of low carb. My father always goes off to the lounge for a nap after a big Sunday lunch. I think people just regard it as normal, or don't even notice it. Then, you get used to not feeling that way, and you also develop a habit of noticing how you react to food, so you just become more aware of your reactions.

Of course, not everybody reacts that way - but most of us ended up here because we don't do well with lots of carbs.

BUuuut....I have hardly had any carbs....since the Special K thing on Monday. Why am I tired?

[Ailuros]

Carbs aren't the only thing that can make you tired. Totally up-ending your life while living in a basement with hostile hosts, no electricity and a week's worth of course work to finish in two days can do it too .

[Lost and Found]

I CAN'T, but I feel like I need a nap right now!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Ailuros

Carbs aren't the only thing that can make you tired. Totally up-ending your life while living in a basement with hostile hosts, no electricity and a week's worth of course work to finish in two days can do it too .

[Lost and Found]

Best keep moving....before I close my eyes!!!

[hippiegirl]

Originally Posted by Ailuros

Carbs aren't the only thing that can make you tired. Totally up-ending your life while living in a basement with hostile hosts, no electricity and a week's worth of course work to finish in two days can do it too .

AMEN!

[Lost and Found]

I will Check back in soon!!!!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Sooooo...Tooter!!!!


How come I'm tired then? I didn't eat stuffing or mashed potatos/gravy?



Just a question to hear your opinion? "Normal" people should be able to eat these things on occassion...without any problems. Why is it different for us? Do you think that eating low-carb trains our bodies to be intolerable of them?

Gee, Click...Stress has no effect on our bodies, so I don't know WHY you are so tired. TURD!!!!!!!!!!!

"Normal", you are having 2 different mindsets here. Come on, we have all done are reading here on how higher carb foods effect our bodies. "Normal" as in normal diet for the way people eat now? I know that eating has changed ALOT since I was a little girl.

When I was young, you didn't go out for fast food all the time. Going to McDonalds was a "Treat" that you would have once in awhile. You also didn't eat so much "Starch". My Mom had a rule...One starch a meal. We would eat hamburger patties with a Veggie and a salad. We didn't eat them with buns. You didn't drink soda every day...You got it as a treat once a week. You didn't buy cookies, candies and cakes. Mom would bake once a week and it was a once a week treats. If you had spaghetti you didn't have garlic bread with it. You had spaghetti and a salad.

What Changed? Advertisement. For breakfast (when I was little) I would have peanut butter toast or some days cereal. Then the advertisement for a healthy breakfast. You were to have Cereal AND Toast AND Orange juice.

Burgers were to be served on BUNS and eaten with French fries (out went the veggies). Who can now eat spaghetti without garlic bread? Pizza? It's not a treat, it's a food group un to it's self.

Chips, Candy, Cakes, Pies, Poptarts? They are not a once in awhile treat, but now a daily (or several times a week) thing. Soda? ONE Soda a week? Let's try 5 a day!!

As I said, It was only ONE starch per meal when I was little. If you had a slice of bread, you couldn't have corn with your meal. One starch per meal. How many starches do people eat per meal today? Heck, a Hogie is about 5 to six servings of bread in one sandwich.

The only exception (when I was little) were holiday meals. Feasts. That was the only time you would have more then ONE starch per meal. Potatoes, Stuffing, hard rolls...etc.

Do I think low carb trains us to be low tolerant of Higher carb foods? No. I think it trains us to be more aware of the side effects of them.

To be honest, It would be real easy for me to ignore the little "symptoms" I am having this morning. After all, I didn't gain any weight nor did I have any cravings. But it's not just about Weight, is it? What we Eat truly DOES effect our bodies and our moods.

I believe I can eat these things once in awhile, but I can't eat them all the time. Other diet related diseases/symptoms will follow, if I do.

Obviously, My Sugar level was spiked from the foods. Weight gain wasn't a result, but feeling tired etc was.

I notice it now, because clean low carb was my norm and I had no mood swings etc. My Sugar wasn't spiked.

Emotionally dealing with food and scientifically dealing with it are 2 different things and that's what we have to find the balance with.

It's not just about The Scales. It's not about the Scales not moving in either direction. It's about our health.

I think now, I am more aware of those things. It's where I am in my Journey.


I have been at this a long time. Years ago, I got down, but started the "carb creep" things. It's where you add things in (like I did yesterday) and nothing happened on the scales. I justified it. I can eat normal. Slowly, symptoms started coming back (feeling tired...then depressed...then IBS, THEN weight gain) and before I noticed those things, I was back to eating the socalled "Normal" way. What did I do wrong? I didn't make informed "Choices" I just blindly ate what I thought was "Normal".


But, what truly IS normal? Today's normal is not the Normal of when I was a little girl. Today's Normal is filled with no nutrition and major health problems and obesity.

See what I am saying?

It was nice to have that meal last night, but it is NOT going to be my norm.

[Tooter]

Short version (in a nutshell) I think because of doing low carb and all the reading we have done, we are more aware of the many different side effects that higher carb foods has on us.

There, was that better? You know me, I tend to be LONG winded!

[*Pear*]

Wow, I was checking out how to dye wool with Koolaid, and look at all the colors you can make... http://www.thepiper.com/fiberart/koo...rchart-max.jpg would be fun for my purses.

Here's instructions just in case you're interested. Dyeing Wool Yarn With Kool-Aid

I'm about halfway done with my first purse (not dyed), I'll post a picture if it turns into anything.

[Lost and Found]

Hey...TURD!!!!!!


When I said..."NORMAL". I was referring to this woe, as not being the "NORM". That is why it is so difficult for us to go out to eat...when you have to be aware of EVERY LITTLE gram of carb...induction level. That is, also, why it is so difficult to shop...and find ingredients that we can eat...or recipes that we can make. Also, t