Old Timers and Newbies Challenge

[jeanran]

Good morning hippiegirl and Pear, I hope you are staying warm and cozy. It's good to see so many here this morning but where-O-where is our illustrious leader? I bet she is busier than a one armed paper hanger.

Jean

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

L & F, to be honest, you probably do have an attitude and perhaps their guilt, knowing they weren't completely up front with you, also plays into it. It's very difficult to go back home.

My daughter fought a huge custody battle and had to sell her home to pay for it so she and Amanda moved in with me for awhile. Let's just say, they have a darling place less than 1 1/4 miles from me now, and we are friends again.

I must tell you how impressed I am with all of the work you do around the place. I commend you for that. Many times when children move back home, they are lazy and don't feel they have to contribute, I am glad that you have more character than that.

The older we get the less we want to break our routine and that is probably what is happening with your parents. I know that was my big problem.

Keep your chin up, try to stay as positive as possible, come here and vent so you won't explode. We can get through this together.

Jean

Thanks Jean!!!

I'm no spring chicken myself!!!!(40+) I would love to be in the position to get a place...but...in order to that....I would need to quit going to school!!! I was very upfront with my parents about my intentions...before coming here!!! They know that I do not like it here...and that I would never make roots here!!! I specifically told them that this move was for school purposes, and that I would not be staying here afterwards!!! Do you think that could be the reason that my mom said whatever she could to get me here....knowing that I would be trapped? She probably thinks that I would just stay around here (in the area) if they made it bad enough for us!!! I do not care to live 1 1/4 mile away from them....I like the idea of 575 miles away better!!!

The problem is....after coming here....my oldest was excepted to Purdue's Engineering program...which is one of the best in this country. He is very excited about this...and is not supportive about us going back to Minnesota. My youngest doesn't want to be away from his brother...but wants to go back to Minnesota...I feel "in the middle" due to believing my mom and coming here in the first place!!!

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by *Pear*

Morning gals,

Those Apple glazed porkchops sound good Mom. How much apple was in those?

HUGZ to all.

None! They are made with Cider Vinegar, Splenda, soy sauce and onion. Tasty! They have about 7 useable grams of carbs each.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

L & F, to be honest, you probably do have an attitude and perhaps their guilt, knowing they weren't completely up front with you, also plays into it. It's very difficult to go back home.

My daughter fought a huge custody battle and had to sell her home to pay for it so she and Amanda moved in with me for awhile. Let's just say, they have a darling place less than 1 1/4 miles from me now, and we are friends again.

I must tell you how impressed I am with all of the work you do around the place. I commend you for that. Many times when children move back home, they are lazy and don't feel they have to contribute, I am glad that you have more character than that.

The older we get the less we want to break our routine and that is probably what is happening with your parents. I know that was my big problem.

Keep your chin up, try to stay as positive as possible, come here and vent so you won't explode. We can get through this together.

Jean

Yes...and thanks for noticing!!! I do as much as possible around here!!! However, it's liked d*mned if I do, and D*mned if I don't!!! I either don't do it right, or not at the right time...and if I do not do anything...except homework...I'm given tisks and dirty looks!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by jeanran

MomToEli, I sure hope you can figure out what is going on, it just may be your body resting, they tell us that it happens.

Also, that one little bite of something off plan can wreck us for awhile so be very cautious.

You can do it, I just know you can so come here as often as possible and we will cheer you on.

BTW, I didn't wake up with that horrible acid build up this morning. Woo Hoo!

Jean

Glad to hear that you didn't wake up with that horrible acid build up!!! See, maybe it was the bark....especially at night!!!

[Tooter]

Good Morning (Or should I say "Afternoon"). Have an Ice storm here today.


Pear, do you think you could live without the Atkins Bars for Awhile? I noticed that you had 2 in one day. Alot of people use them only once and to replace a meal they can't find time to eat and even doing that, it still stalls some people (the "every day" thing). Could you see how you do without having them for a couple of days? Then you could tell if they were the problem.

I'll give you an example. I like the low carb ice cream, but I only have it every once in awhile. Why? Because I know that if I eat it, the next day I will be up a pound or two. That's eating the Low carb, not the "HIGH" carb stuff. I also know I will be more hungry the next day. Don't laugh, but I do counter act that by eating more FAT (giving hippigirl a Look) It usually takes a day or so to get back down with "normal" eating. So, I have learned I can't have it all the time and If I do have it (once in awhile) it will effect me.

When Low carb was the "Fad" a few years ago, everyone had low carb products out. Remember seeing them in the grocery store? Well, everyone jumped on the "Fad" of it and ate up all those products. Not Natural low carb, just replacing everything with Low carb products. They didn't do so well, stopped doing low carb and that's why you don't see so many products. The people who do low carb for a lifestyle, can't eat those products all the time...So, companies lost money and stopped making them.

The best way to do lowcarb is more "natural" with a few add ins once in awhile.

It really is finding out what works for your own body and how foods effect your body (not just weight loss).

Why do the low carb products stall people? (I know you are thinking that) lol
Well, I'm not a doctor, but to put it in simple terms (like me), your body seems to know what to do with "Real" food. It know's how to process it. Everything runs perfectly. Oh, there are times of "adjustment" where you stay at a weight for a little bit and then the scales move again. We have gone from burning carbs and storing fat from excess carbs to burning Fat (because we have lowered our carb intake). Then we give it some "Fake foods" (highly processed low carb products). It's like the process stops and your body says "What in the HECK is this and what do we do with it"? It's not natural, so it doesn't recognize it as food. It's like your body gets upset and says "Wait a minute, we just went from processing and storing carbs to burning fat...This isn't natural food, do we go back to processing carbs....But where are the carbs and what is this other stuff in there"? It doesn't know what to do with it, so there is a stall and then there is a gain. That's a sign (at least for me and my body) that my body is having a hard time processing something I am eating.
I have learned over the years, it's the processed low carb foods/treats.


I'm at "Goal", but I still have the more Natural Low carb as my "Base". I don't eat low carb bread every day. Or Low carb products every day. It just doesn't seem to work for me when I do that. I think it's the "Every Day" thing that messes people up. Thinking we can have them "every day" just like we did with our High carb foods before doing low carb.


I know there is a balance, to lose the weight and also to find a way that you don't cheat and give into High food temptations. I am not saying it's "All or nothing" and that you have to totally give them up. What I am saying is, why don't you find out exactly how often you can eat them? The "rules" are different for everyone's body.

The way to find that out is to give them up for a few days and see what happens and if the scales move again. After that gets going...You add one in just for one day. You see how you do. Slowly, finding out how often will not give you a problem.

I also know there is also the factor that this is the holiday seasons. Alot of temptations. That's something else you must "weigh". The bars might slow you down and stall you, but it might be a "better choice" right now then giving in to the higher carb foods at this time and gaining weight. You could then try to find out "how often" after the holidays are over.

You see, I don't have a cut and dried answer for you. Just some things to "think" about so you can make the "Better Choice" for you.

[Lost and Found]

All of this rig-a-ma-row....now I'm hungry!!! Won't ruin anything...but I will if I do not grab a few pork skins to take care of the urge!!! (Emotional eating!!!)

[Lost and Found]

HI.......TOOTER!!!!! I've missed you!!!!

We just had the ice storm here a couple of days ago!!!

[Tooter]

Jean, did you do something different, with not waking up with the Acid build up?

Oh, I emailed Winslow early this morning. I haven't heard from her yet, but as soon as I do I will post.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

HI.......TOOTER!!!!! I've missed you!!!!

We just had the ice storm here a couple of days ago!!!

Yep, and I'm in the Mountains of PA. I got up this morning at 4:00 am because hubby had to leave for work early (because of the storm). My youngest was home from school today because of the storm.

When I found out hubby made it safely to work, I actually went back to bed and got some sleep.

I have some left over roast beef and broth, I think I'm going to add some cabbage, tomatoes and low carb veggies and make a soup up. A cold day like today is perfect for soup.

I would much rather have snow then freezing rain. You never know what those Mountains will do with this kind of weather.

I'll be happy when hubby is home safe tonight.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Yep, and I'm in the Mountains of PA. I got up this morning at 4:00 am because hubby had to leave for work early (because of the storm). My youngest was home from school today because of the storm.

When I found out hubby made it safely to work, I actually went back to bed and got some sleep.

I have some left over roast beef and broth, I think I'm going to add some cabbage, tomatoes and low carb veggies and make a soup up. A cold day like today is perfect for soup.

I would much rather have snow then freezing rain. You never know what those Mountains will do with this kind of weather.

I'll be happy when hubby is home safe tonight.

Your soup sounds good!!!

I betcha that it is pretty...the landscape...where you live!!!! I can picture it in my head....crisp, glowing mountain air....and then ()!!! Ohhh, you do not know how much I've missed you!!!!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by jeanran

L & F, to be honest, you probably do have an attitude and perhaps their guilt, knowing they weren't completely up front with you, also plays into it. It's very difficult to go back home.

My daughter fought a huge custody battle and had to sell her home to pay for it so she and Amanda moved in with me for awhile. Let's just say, they have a darling place less than 1 1/4 miles from me now, and we are friends again.

I must tell you how impressed I am with all of the work you do around the place. I commend you for that. Many times when children move back home, they are lazy and don't feel they have to contribute, I am glad that you have more character than that.

The older we get the less we want to break our routine and that is probably what is happening with your parents. I know that was my big problem.

Keep your chin up, try to stay as positive as possible, come here and vent so you won't explode. We can get through this together.

Jean

Oh, I hear ya Jean. My Son and DIL (well, they are't married YET but soon) anyways, they moved in with us after my Granddaughter was born. They didn't have anything ready for her. It was supposed to be for a week, but ended up being over 3 months. I'm just now getting the house back in order. lol And they didn't help out like Lost and Found does. I was just thankful there were no "blow ups" before they left. I do have a bloody tongue, but it's healing!

It's hard on everyone when 2 families try and live in the same house. I agree with you. Everyone loses their personal space and routines go out the window. There's a fine line of walking on egg shells and being PO'd about everything.

When they finally moved out, I told all my boys that they couldn't move in again (sort of in a joking way) I said "Did you ever see the Movie 'failure to Launch'? Well, your Dad and I are turning all the rooms into NAKED ROOMS like Terry Bradshaw Did"!!!! They all yelled "Ew...Gross", but I made my point! *evil laugh* Thank God we could joke about it.


Lost and Found, we just need to help you get through this.

I'm sure your Mother Day Dreamed of you moving there and everything being perfect and you would stay in the area. Now, reality is setting in for you all.
Take it one day at a time, try to make the best of it. Don't let "attitudes" get to you. Realize that everyone's nerves are shot. You are not responsible for THIER attitude and they are not responsible for YOURS. All you can do is claim your own and work on your own. Their's is their problem to deal with.


Remember, this is not forever.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Your soup sounds good!!!

I betcha that it is pretty...the landscape...where you live!!!! I can picture it in my head....crisp, glowing mountain air....and then ()!!! Ohhh, you do not know how much I've missed you!!!!

It is beautiful. The fall is breathtaking. I live in a development on top of a Mountain in the woods. Everyone has about 2 acre lots, so it's not like the old PA towns where houses are a foot apart. Good thing, because my son's love Heavy metal music!! LOL

Anyways, we are surrounded by woods and actually live near a forest. We have bear, Deer and Turkeys that come through our yard. Watching the seasons in this is so beautiful.

Even in the Winter it's beautiful, I just had the Mountain roads. You never know what they will do. Ice and Fog are the worst.

[Tooter]

Here's a picture of my house. Of coarse being On Top a Mountain, you can't see the Surrounding mountains in the picture.

[Tooter]

I'm trying to find pictures that show the "woods" in the back of the house.

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

All of this rig-a-ma-row....now I'm hungry!!! Won't ruin anything...but I will if I do not grab a few pork skins to take care of the urge!!! (Emotional eating!!!)

Not to mention...my brother!!!! He was here, with his daughter, for supper last night!!! Usually, it's okay when I do the dishes after supper, but they were watching t.v. and having conversation with my brother last night. (he is the only one that they seem to care to have every day talks with...other than b*tching about something!!! I don't get it...he's such a user, but they seem to cater to him!!! ) That is, also, a fact that makes the three of us feel uncomfortable!!! Perfect Jason and Hannah (my niece). The tone in which is spoken to them is totally different than that of which is spoken to me, my sister, and our children. I do not like how it "feels" around here for me, or my youngest son especially...my oldest...well, he doesn't seem to care what they think...he just wants to go to school here!!! And they wonder why they rarely hear from my sister...who lives in the area?!!!

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Here's a picture of my house. Of coarse being On Top a Mountain, you can't see the Surrounding mountains in the picture.

Tooter....your house is beautiful!!! I miss my house...from before the divorce!!! (At this point, I miss my not so wonderful house that we rented before coming here!!!)

[Lost and Found]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Oh, I hear ya Jean. My Son and DIL (well, they are't married YET but soon) anyways, they moved in with us after my Granddaughter was born. They didn't have anything ready for her. It was supposed to be for a week, but ended up being over 3 months. I'm just now getting the house back in order. lol And they didn't help out like Lost and Found does. I was just thankful there were no "blow ups" before they left. I do have a bloody tongue, but it's healing!

It's hard on everyone when 2 families try and live in the same house. I agree with you. Everyone loses their personal space and routines go out the window. There's a fine line of walking on egg shells and being PO'd about everything.

When they finally moved out, I told all my boys that they couldn't move in again (sort of in a joking way) I said "Did you ever see the Movie 'failure to Launch'? Well, your Dad and I are turning all the rooms into NAKED ROOMS like Terry Bradshaw Did"!!!! They all yelled "Ew...Gross", but I made my point! *evil laugh* Thank God we could joke about it.


Lost and Found, we just need to help you get through this.

I'm sure your Mother Day Dreamed of you moving there and everything being perfect and you would stay in the area. Now, reality is setting in for you all.
Take it one day at a time, try to make the best of it. Don't let "attitudes" get to you. Realize that everyone's nerves are shot. You are not responsible for THIER attitude and they are not responsible for YOURS. All you can do is claim your own and work on your own. Their's is their problem to deal with.


Remember, this is not forever.

I wish that their attitudes were their own problems to deal with...but...unfortunatly...that is not entirely true!!!!

Reality set in for me, as soon as I got out of the moving truck and saw the basement!!!! Had I known...I never would have came here!!!

My mother shouldn't have been day dreaming about us being close by...I told her that I will never "live" here....but, they begged us...and let us know about "our own little apartment" downstairs!!!

I'm sorry, but I do not share the same opinion as you and Jean!!! It's not like we didn't have anywhere to go and we needed a place!!! They LIED!!! I would not be in "their" space, messing around with their schedule had they told the truth!!!! I would still be in Minnesota...I'm not saying that life wasn't a struggle, but we were happy and with God's help (it's the only way that I can explain how we made it) we hung on...while I was going to college!!! This move, based upon lies, has ruined too many things for me to not be angry!!! However, now I have to make a decision on which boy (son) I'm going to hurt!!! My oldest, or my youngest??? (Thanks to coming here in the first place!!!)

[Lost and Found]

I'm sorry if I come off as a b*tch over this, but I am paying rent for something that isn't there...and almost every cent that I get goes towards feeding "all" of us---including my sponging brother...who doesn't chip in anything!!!! He lives down the road...and the poor thing couldn't have average things in his home...so mommy and daddy have been supporting his as* while he finished his bathrooms, kitchen etc...complete with slate floors, granite counters, and top of the line kitchen aid "achitect series" appliances!!! (For the last 1 in a half years!!!) I really don't care....but me with $500 a month...should not be scolded for not wanting to feed him...or buy his laundry supplies!!!! (I do agree that I've gotten in the way of the daily schedule as far as that goes...but only because I've been vocal about it!!!)

I know that if I stay here...it won't be forever, but if accepted to a Nursing program...it will be long enough...2-4 years!!! And, yes, they were aware of the time frame before my coming here!!!!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

I wish that their attitudes were their own problems to deal with...but...unfortunatly...that is not entirely true!!!!

Reality set in for me, as soon as I got out of the moving truck and saw the basement!!!! Had I known...I never would have came here!!!

My mother shouldn't have been day dreaming about us being close by...I told her that I will never "live" here....but, they begged us...and let us know about "our own little apartment" downstairs!!!

I'm sorry, but I do not share the same opinion as you and Jean!!! It's not like we didn't have anywhere to go and we needed a place!!! They LIED!!! I would not be in "their" space, messing around with their schedule had they told the truth!!!! I would still be in Minnesota...I'm not saying that life wasn't a struggle, but we were happy and with God's help (it's the only way that I can explain how we made it) we hung on...while I was going to college!!! This move, based upon lies, has ruined too many things for me to not be angry!!! However, now I have to make a decision on which boy (son) I'm going to hurt!!! My oldest, or my youngest??? (Thanks to coming here in the first place!!!)

Oh, Honey...I realize that your parents didn't tell you the truth. I totally realize that. That's not what I am saying.

It's that you are there now. What happened then, happened. My attitude (and Jeans, I think) is Now what? You are between a rock and a hard place. You don't want to be there, but how do you make a Change without ruining what you have worked for?

The "attitude" thing that I was talking about, was your Dad's "attitude" and being snippy with you. What I was trying to say was that's not your fault. That's his.

I think Jean And I were also trying to share that even under the Best Circumstances with the best Intentions....Having 2 families in the same house doesn't work without everyone at least "Dreaming" of killing each other. lol



It's awful what you are going through. I know that you have to make a decision and figure out what to do. I want you to be able to do it with your "head" and not your emotions. Which is hard, when emotions are raw in a situation like that. That's all I was trying to say.