How is the CLA/GLA going? - Page 118

got2luv · 01-19-2006, 06:10 PM

Chevy!!!! Girl, that muffin top is way smaller!!! it's working fast for you!!!! Your thighs look smaller too!!! You must feel amazing! I'm so happy for you!!!

got2luv · 01-19-2006, 06:12 PM

elyse, how much CLA and Gla are you taking? Play with your dosage some, sometimes it takes more. If you are taking the pills you need at least 5 per day. I hope this starts working for you.

elyseelyse · 01-19-2006, 06:23 PM

6000 mgs. CLA and 1000 mgs. GLA. (3 pills of cla and 2 pills of gla w/ breakfast and then again with lunch.) From what I've read - that should be about right?

kycowgirl · 01-19-2006, 06:28 PM

Is that 6000 mgs. CLA the actual cla content? more than 3500mg a day makes it lose effectiveness.

Chevy26 · 01-19-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IM2cute

Chevy...I see a smaller muffin top there...WTG!!!

You know when I look into a mirror, I can't really see what everyone else see until I take the pics. Then I can see the difference. I'm so glad that muffin/mushroom is shrinking.

Chevy26 · 01-19-2006, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caly1

OMG Chevy!!! That is a huge difference in 3 weeks!! I am soo impressed. How many iches/pounds have you lost in that time period? KUTGW, you are looking fantastic!

Thank You!! I'm so happy!!

I don't have a clue on how many pounds or inches I've lost since starting induction and the Combo. I mostly keep a picture diary of my transformation. I tend to get a little obsessive with things and I didn't want to go crazy on myself if I didn't see any loss in pounds or inches. So I just stick with taking pics and trying on clothes.

elyseelyse · 01-19-2006, 06:36 PM

I guess I may be a bit confused - Here is what I take (6) tonalin cla pills from the netrition website and (4) borage oil pills frpm the website as well. (Broken into 5 at breakfast and 5 at lunch).

See below:

242-0001
Horizon
Tonalin CLA, 1000mg

and

153-0273
NOW
Borage Oil, 240mg GLA

Chevy26 · 01-19-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by got2luv

Chevy!!!! Girl, that muffin top is way smaller!!! it's working fast for you!!!! Your thighs look smaller too!!! You must feel amazing! I'm so happy for you!!!

Trish and Michelle, I'm so happy right now!!

I can basically deal with my thighs because I've always had hips, thighs and butt, but I've always had a small waist and I want that. Shoot, who I'm trying to fool I want to be smaller all over darnit!!

Cutie · 01-19-2006, 07:28 PM

well...here's a pic of me finally in my avatar...it's not much, but it's better than nothing, i guess

not good quality

...friend took it with her camera phone...

kycowgirl · 01-19-2006, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy26

Trish and Michelle, I'm so happy right now!!

I can basically deal with my thighs because I've always had hips, thighs and butt, but I've always had a small waist and I want that. Shoot, who I'm trying to fool I want to be smaller all over darnit!!

well that waist is whittling away too, you are doing so well

kycowgirl · 01-19-2006, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IM2cute

well...here's a pic of me finally in my avatar...it's not much, but it's better than nothing, i guess

not good quality

...friend took it with her camera phone...

the pic looks great

BB in MN · 01-19-2006, 08:10 PM

Why do you stall when you take the CLA & GLA? It doesn't make sense to me,

what is the philosophy behind it?

Thanks, Beth in MN

Randi · 01-19-2006, 08:11 PM

Ok ladies.....You all have sold me. I want to try CLA/GLA but not sure what to buy or how much to take really.
This is what I plan to order......

Natrol Tonalin 1000-CLA -- 60 Softgels

NutriCology GLA 320 Borage Oil -- 30 Softgels

How many of each sould I take??

Thanks so much in advance

kycowgirl · 01-19-2006, 08:17 PM

BB, I dont have an answer for that but I will try to find one. Maybe someone else will know. I just know it works lol

Randi, welcome to the group. If you figure you need to take 3 caps a day of those cla, and 30 ina bottle, you would need 3 bottles at a cost of $30 a month. The liquid cla from Netrition has a full dose in 1/2 Tbsp at a cost of $23 a month. A much better value.

We also prefer to get our Borage Oil from Netrition. It has a higher GLA content, and more pills per bottle than wal-mart brand so less pills there too. So by getting them both from Netrition, its alot cheaper than taking all the caps from stores.

How CLA & GLA work .....

How does CLA work?
A: CLA prevents fat from being deposited into the cells by speeding up the body's fat metabolism. CLA also helps the body metabolize existing fat deposits. This fat then returns to the blood stream where it is used as energy by muscle cells and the liver.

Recommended CLA dosage:
3400mg a day

How does GLA work?
A: Numerous research studies have examined the role of GLA for improving health, specifically in the area of weight loss. GLA from borage oil causes less body fat to accumulate. Borage oil owes its healing power to the presence of essential fatty acids, the most important of which is GLA, an omega-6 fatty acid. (While borage oil is often used interchangeably with evening primrose oil, ounce for ounce, borage oil boasts more than twice as much GLA.)

Recommended GLA dosage:
1000-3000mg a day

loveshinesthru · 01-19-2006, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amy031

Here are some of the other benefits of Borage Oil.......

Reduce the symptoms of eczema and psoriasis
*Clear up acne and rosacea*
Alleviate inflammation associated with lupus
Prevent nerve damage (neuropathy) due to diabetes
Combat damage from multiple sclerosis
Ease cough and soothe throat disorders
Treat Alzheimer's-related memory deficiencies
Reduce stress and high blood pressure
Nourish nails, scalp, and hair
Counter impotence and female infertility

thanks everyone for the info. i'm putting in an order tomorrow.

i'm looking into the "combat damage from MS". i don't believe i've ever read this anywhere. i have MS so i'm very curious. i'm going to do some research and see if i can come up with anything but if anyone knows of any articles or papers that can back up this statement, i would really appreciate it.

i havent been diagnosed with MS but i do have alot of symptoms. there are a few diff books by dr atkins that lists vits to take for ms. one is a vitamin book and one is similar. i forget the names. mine are packed away. i need to dig them out. vit d, co q 10, neuro ps, i cant remember what all i take for it. sam-e might help too as it helps for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. sorry i cant be of better help.

loveshinesthru · 01-19-2006, 11:25 PM

age-defying diet revolution, vita-nutrient solution, age defying diet, the atkins essentials are the books. i know the first 2 have vitamins broke down into what they do. the 3rd im not sure i have it, and the 4th has info about vitamins as well. but i think the first 2 have the most. i think the 2nd book actually breaks it down into diseases and what to take for it. im trying to remember, but my books are still out in the garage all packed up.

got2luv · 01-20-2006, 03:22 AM

Beth in MN - I believe that you "stall" because of the way the combo works... it's promoting lean muscle while blocking fat cells from maturing.

Muscle is more dense than fat, so while you are losing inches, you may not lose scale weight.

Hope this helps.

Also, while your body is going through this transition, your fat cells, not being able to hold onto fat, are trying to hold water, which is also more dense than fat. That's why after a few weeks when those fat cells finally give up, you start to lose again.

Some people never experience this stall, although their scale weight slows.

got2luv · 01-20-2006, 03:26 AM

Randi - Actually, any "pill" form of CLA only has about 750mg of CLA per pill. So you need 5 pills per day to get the 3400mg that is needed for this supplement to perform it's best. If you want the pill form, Netrition has 90 for $9.99. you will use about 2 bottles per month.

The liquid CLA is easier because you get all that you need in one dose per day. It's $22.95 (I think)

got2luv · 01-20-2006, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elyseelyse

6000 mgs. CLA and 1000 mgs. GLA. (3 pills of cla and 2 pills of gla w/ breakfast and then again with lunch.) From what I've read - that should be about right?

elyse, 3 pills of CLA? That's 1000mg each pill... they only have about 750mg of actual CLA in them. You need at least 5 pills of CLA to get an effective dose.

Here's Trish's chart of different doses of CLA and how they work.

got2luv · 01-20-2006, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elyseelyse

I guess I may be a bit confused - Here is what I take (6) tonalin cla pills from the netrition website and (4) borage oil pills frpm the website as well. (Broken into 5 at breakfast and 5 at lunch).

See below:

242-0001
Horizon
Tonalin CLA, 1000mg

and

153-0273
NOW
Borage Oil, 240mg GLA

Oooops, now I see, you are taking enough.... maybe try cutting one CLA pill and see if you get results.

I forgot to mention.... the pill form of CLA contains glycerine, which sometimes causes stalls.... Could it be that you are not digesting the pills at all??? I'll have to research that. Maybe liquid form is the way to go for you.

Be back in a little bit with research (I hope)

got2luv · 01-20-2006, 04:20 AM

elyse, are you taking any other supplements? I know that calcium supplements can cause some problems with other supplements or meds not digesting... and cortisol causes the EFA supplements (which is CLA and GLA) not to be digested.

(still looking)

Mack · 01-20-2006, 04:27 AM

Just popping in to say 'hey' to the regulars here.
Hugz all around.
Have a great weekend.

fish,flax & borage Mack
(CLA-less but looking locally)

abbynormal · 01-20-2006, 04:51 AM

Chevy -
What an amazing difference in just 3 weeks - wow - not even 3 weeks! Congratulations!

valf · 01-20-2006, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginamw1965

Hi Val,

I am a (Ex) Pastry Chef and have made these before in different places that I have worked - they are wonderful.
For myself, I make that same type of Frosting as well. Or I'll just make it and use it as (LC) Mousse. You can also use the different Flavors of Sugar Free pudding and also add the Davinci's syrup to add flavors of the frostings. (something to think about and have fun being creative)

You can combine the flavors: Orange & Vanilla = Creamsicle, Coconut & Almond = Pina Colada, Chocolate & Hazelnut or White Chocolate & Almond are soooo good also.

Best of Luck and have fun,

Gina

Thank you Gina!

abbynormal · 01-20-2006, 05:04 AM

Hello all -
I'm trying to check in everyday but have not had a lot of time to post recently. Work has me up to my eyebrows in alligators. DH had his third round of chemo on Wednesday. He has made arrangements to take a medical leave from his job, which is a good thing. It is very fast paced and stressful and in the "chemo fog" he just isn't up to it on many days. They are working out an arrangement for him to continue some of his administrative duties from home. He'll be able to keep his fingers in the pie but out of the firing line. He's also turning his hobby of woodworking into a business. He's joining up with a friend who already has a custom woodworking business to do some projects as he feels able. He'll be able to work out of our shop in the basement and if he gets tired, he can stop and lie down.

These arrangements are good on so many levels - he continues to work with people he truly likes; he can work on low stress activities when he's feeling up to it; and there is still a steady stream of income. I was pretty freaked out at the idea of having just my income.

I'm also working on a jewelry project. I'll post pictures when it's done, but I'm making custom necklaces for a wedding party of 6 bridesmaids and 1 flower girl. That is taking up most of my evening hours I would normally spend reading and posting. I'm really excited about the way they look and this will be my first "commissioned" project.

Well, I've certainly rattled on..... happy Friday to you

01-19-2006, 07:28 PM	#3519
Cutie happy girlie girl! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 6,036 Gallery: Cutie Stats: lost 110lbs. 245-135; maintaining 135-140 :) WOE: IE w/mostly low GL foods	well...here's a pic of me finally in my avatar...it's not much, but it's better than nothing, i guess not good quality ...friend took it with her camera phone... Last edited by IM2cute : 01-19-2006 at 07:34 PM.

01-19-2006, 08:17 PM	#3524
kycowgirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 4,300 Gallery: kycowgirl Stats: 213/203/150 WOE: Low Carb + cla/gla	BB, I dont have an answer for that but I will try to find one. Maybe someone else will know. I just know it works lol Randi, welcome to the group. If you figure you need to take 3 caps a day of those cla, and 30 ina bottle, you would need 3 bottles at a cost of $30 a month. The liquid cla from Netrition has a full dose in 1/2 Tbsp at a cost of $23 a month. A much better value. We also prefer to get our Borage Oil from Netrition. It has a higher GLA content, and more pills per bottle than wal-mart brand so less pills there too. So by getting them both from Netrition, its alot cheaper than taking all the caps from stores. How CLA & GLA work ..... How does CLA work? A: CLA prevents fat from being deposited into the cells by speeding up the body's fat metabolism. CLA also helps the body metabolize existing fat deposits. This fat then returns to the blood stream where it is used as energy by muscle cells and the liver. Recommended CLA dosage: 3400mg a day How does GLA work? A: Numerous research studies have examined the role of GLA for improving health, specifically in the area of weight loss. GLA from borage oil causes less body fat to accumulate. Borage oil owes its healing power to the presence of essential fatty acids, the most important of which is GLA, an omega-6 fatty acid. (While borage oil is often used interchangeably with evening primrose oil, ounce for ounce, borage oil boasts more than twice as much GLA.) Recommended GLA dosage: 1000-3000mg a day __________________ Trisha When you’re down and things look rough, Look deep within yourself and Cowgirl Up!

01-20-2006, 03:22 AM	#3527
got2luv Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,076 Gallery: got2luv Stats: weight : 166 height: 5'3.5" age:32 WOE: yogurt & LC Start Date: August 2, 2005 restart July 18, 2008	Beth in MN - I believe that you "stall" because of the way the combo works... it's promoting lean muscle while blocking fat cells from maturing. Muscle is more dense than fat, so while you are losing inches, you may not lose scale weight. Hope this helps. Also, while your body is going through this transition, your fat cells, not being able to hold onto fat, are trying to hold water, which is also more dense than fat. That's why after a few weeks when those fat cells finally give up, you start to lose again. Some people never experience this stall, although their scale weight slows. __________________ ~Michelle~ I'm NOT fat, I'm just short for my weight!!! Weight stats: 173/166/140 *~~ Fell off the wagon but I'mmmm baaaaack ~~* Trying to fit into a true size 5/6

01-19-2006, 06:10 PM	#3511
got2luv Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,076 Gallery: got2luv Stats: weight : 166 height: 5'3.5" age:32 WOE: yogurt & LC Start Date: August 2, 2005 restart July 18, 2008	Chevy!!!! Girl, that muffin top is way smaller!!! it's working fast for you!!!! Your thighs look smaller too!!! You must feel amazing! I'm so happy for you!!!

01-19-2006, 06:12 PM	#3512
got2luv Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,076 Gallery: got2luv Stats: weight : 166 height: 5'3.5" age:32 WOE: yogurt & LC Start Date: August 2, 2005 restart July 18, 2008	elyse, how much CLA and Gla are you taking? Play with your dosage some, sometimes it takes more. If you are taking the pills you need at least 5 per day. I hope this starts working for you.

01-19-2006, 06:23 PM	#3513
elyseelyse Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Just north of the Peoples Republic of Cambridge Posts: 11,861 Gallery: elyseelyse Stats: Still too much....grrrrrr.... WOE: Counting calories w/ a LC emphasis Start Date: Sept 2005	6000 mgs. CLA and 1000 mgs. GLA. (3 pills of cla and 2 pills of gla w/ breakfast and then again with lunch.) From what I've read - that should be about right?

01-19-2006, 06:28 PM	#3514
kycowgirl Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 4,300 Gallery: kycowgirl Stats: 213/203/150 WOE: Low Carb + cla/gla	Is that 6000 mgs. CLA the actual cla content? more than 3500mg a day makes it lose effectiveness.

01-19-2006, 06:36 PM	#3517
elyseelyse Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Just north of the Peoples Republic of Cambridge Posts: 11,861 Gallery: elyseelyse Stats: Still too much....grrrrrr.... WOE: Counting calories w/ a LC emphasis Start Date: Sept 2005	I guess I may be a bit confused - Here is what I take (6) tonalin cla pills from the netrition website and (4) borage oil pills frpm the website as well. (Broken into 5 at breakfast and 5 at lunch). See below: 242-0001 Horizon Tonalin CLA, 1000mg and 153-0273 NOW Borage Oil, 240mg GLA

01-19-2006, 08:10 PM	#3522
BB in MN Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 337 Gallery: BB in MN	Why do you stall when you take the CLA & GLA? It doesn't make sense to me, what is the philosophy behind it? Thanks, Beth in MN

01-19-2006, 08:11 PM	#3523
Randi MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,645 Gallery: Randi WOE: Atkins Start Date: November 19th, 02 (lost 121 lbs)	Ok ladies.....You all have sold me. I want to try CLA/GLA but not sure what to buy or how much to take really. This is what I plan to order...... Natrol Tonalin 1000-CLA -- 60 Softgels NutriCology GLA 320 Borage Oil -- 30 Softgels How many of each sould I take?? Thanks so much in advance

01-19-2006, 11:25 PM	#3526
loveshinesthru MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: prineville, oregon Posts: 1,903 Gallery: loveshinesthru Stats: 289/282/120 WOE: atkins Start Date: trying to restart	age-defying diet revolution, vita-nutrient solution, age defying diet, the atkins essentials are the books. i know the first 2 have vitamins broke down into what they do. the 3rd im not sure i have it, and the 4th has info about vitamins as well. but i think the first 2 have the most. i think the 2nd book actually breaks it down into diseases and what to take for it. im trying to remember, but my books are still out in the garage all packed up.

01-20-2006, 03:26 AM	#3528
got2luv Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,076 Gallery: got2luv Stats: weight : 166 height: 5'3.5" age:32 WOE: yogurt & LC Start Date: August 2, 2005 restart July 18, 2008	Randi - Actually, any "pill" form of CLA only has about 750mg of CLA per pill. So you need 5 pills per day to get the 3400mg that is needed for this supplement to perform it's best. If you want the pill form, Netrition has 90 for $9.99. you will use about 2 bottles per month. The liquid CLA is easier because you get all that you need in one dose per day. It's $22.95 (I think)

01-20-2006, 04:20 AM	#3531
got2luv Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,076 Gallery: got2luv Stats: weight : 166 height: 5'3.5" age:32 WOE: yogurt & LC Start Date: August 2, 2005 restart July 18, 2008	elyse, are you taking any other supplements? I know that calcium supplements can cause some problems with other supplements or meds not digesting... and cortisol causes the EFA supplements (which is CLA and GLA) not to be digested. (still looking)

01-20-2006, 04:27 AM	#3532
Mack MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,792 Gallery: Mack Stats: (5/23/08) 51 / 33.8 --> / 0 WOE: Healthy lo-carb,seeds,yogurt	Just popping in to say 'hey' to the regulars here. Hugz all around. Have a great weekend. fish,flax & borage Mack (CLA-less but looking locally)

01-20-2006, 04:51 AM	#3533
abbynormal Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welcome to the Bluff Posts: 7,588 Gallery: abbynormal WOE: yikes!	Chevy - What an amazing difference in just 3 weeks - wow - not even 3 weeks! Congratulations!