UK/Europe May - Page 3

Mimosa23 · 05-13-2008, 01:20 AM

Sounds like some of you are going to be busy bees in the next months!
Here, a bit more quiet...

My best friend is visiting this weekend,
Next weekend my BF's family is visiting.
After that both BF and myself have a flat full of guests,
Then we are going away for a weekend to the Balearics,
After that I have one weekend off,
Then a wedding
The weekend after that I am going to Holland to see friends, a band and family,
After that I'm off on my summer hols for 2 weeks, and when I get back we are in August, and thankfully I haven't made any plans!

In the heat (people say it gets terribly hot and humid here...) I don't really want to be entertaining anyone...

Diet is quite good, I'm still maintaining and this seems to be without any effort, but I'm still keeping an eye on things. I don't think I can ever really completely relax about my food intake and the type of food I eat!
Good thing is, is that here I'm eating pretty clean, so for that the Spanish diet is great! Lots of fresh fish, great meat and very little cheese. Veggies are not eaten much, but they do have some wonderful peppers and tomatoes, and right now I'm eating lots of asparagus and artichokes...

My menu today:
B: my usual, too much coffee!
L: Salad and a chicken breast, maybe a little bread with some olive oil too..
D: I'm being taken out to a Michelin starred restaurant tonight, to celebrate a fragrance award that I won for one of my perfumes, so the diet's out the window!

Have a good day everyone!

Ailuros · 05-13-2008, 02:05 AM

Congratulations on the award - and the dinner! Actually, those sorts of places aren't usually heavy on the carbs, and the portions aren't huge either, so while it wouldn't work to eat that way every day, it's less of a bash to the diet than many cheaper places. Hope you have a wonderful meal, anyway.

Are you near the coast - I saw you mentioned the great fish? I've only been to spain once, but I particularly remember some fantastic grilled sardines, and an amazing fish stew in a kind of Portakabin style hut on a beach. The sherry was good too

.

Mimosa23 · 05-13-2008, 02:54 AM

Ailuros: I'm in Barcelona, so in the big city, not far away from the mountains and on the beach! Life just can't get any better!

The fish is just fabulous here, the variety and freshness is amazing!

My BF is taking me for the dinner to celebrate. The award was already given to the designer who gets to put his name on the fragrance... The people who actually create the fragrances are usually not recognised, unfortunately....

mrs_mad · 05-13-2008, 03:30 PM

Gosh, just re-read my post - I'm even dizzy and tired reading it!!!

Mimos, you have some exciting stuff happening too

I also forgot - I'm going to see Neil Diamond in June in Birmingham - think I was a bit 'merry' one Saturday night, dancing with my friend to Sweet Caroline, I agreed to keep her company

I couldn't go back on my word, so she's had the tickets for weeks now - should be good craic though.

btw...I've had another successful LC day

Happy losing,
Cx

emslight · 05-13-2008, 11:19 PM

Hi all. I'm going to see Neil Diamond too (at the 02). Had totally forgotten that my hubbie had bought us tickets for Xmas (I was about to have a baby then so it's all a bit of a blur.) Both me and my hubbie grew up with parents who listened to Neil Diamond so it's a real trip down memory lane. V exciting.

Hope everyone's good and enjoying the amazing weather we've been having. I've been playing with the girls in the garden everyday and thoroughly enjoying my maternity leave. My 2 year old now uses the birthing pool (we had a homebirth) as a paddling pool!

Gearing up now for a holiday to Crete in just under 2 weeks so doing strict induction until then to try and drop a few pounds.

Kissa · 05-14-2008, 05:56 AM

I am already in Devon! Drove down yesterday, here until early June.

Mrs Mad....you clearly are mad, but we like that here. I lived in the Isle of Man a child, right on the TT course at Quarterbridge.

I have decided to join Mint Q8 and do a bit of Intuitive Eating with McKenna's help. We did it a few years ago with some success but I slipped into just eating what I wanted without all the other guidelines!

I have been craving fruit so this is good time of the year to try it. I do know that I wont be craving loads of potatoes, pasta, rice and deserts, they put me to sleep!

Wish me luck!

Alcmene · 05-14-2008, 12:23 PM

Hey

I love fruit in summer, when it is hot!

I am going to see Neil Diamond on Manchester and I cannot wait, I am going to dress up so need to start trawling EBay for something suitable. What should I wear?

Kissa · 05-14-2008, 12:25 PM

I love Neil Diamond! Song Sung Blue is one of my special songs with DH.

Cowboy boots!

mrs_mad · 05-14-2008, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcmene

Hey

I am going to see Neil Diamond on Manchester and I cannot wait, I am going to dress up so need to start trawling EBay for something suitable. What should I wear?

Glitter and bling!
Big collars and flares.

mrs_mad · 05-14-2008, 01:24 PM

Wow Kissa - small world. I've been going to the Isle of Man since I was a baby as mum used to rally. We've aways been into motorbikes (I'm from Northern Ireland) and I lived on the island for a while as I used to work at Noble's Hospital

Then I met my hubby there in 2001 (the year of foot and mouth and there was no racing - how's that for fate?

)

Now it's our annual pilgrimage, although the week costs us about £1250 and I think we could get 2 weeks all inclusive somewhere really nice for the same money. However, there is a certain draw....

Cx

P.S. 'our' song is Fields of Gold by Sting

emslight · 05-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcmene

Hey

I love fruit in summer, when it is hot!

I am going to see Neil Diamond on Manchester and I cannot wait, I am going to dress up so need to start trawling EBay for something suitable. What should I wear?

Definitely over the top spangly, sparkly shirts.

emslight · 05-14-2008, 01:31 PM

Random question for you ladies. I see all over this site that lots of people eat sausages but every type I find seem to have loads of carbs. What brand do you go for and if I go to BBQ am I best just sticking with the pure meat rather than the sausages because they're an unknown?

Ailuros · 05-14-2008, 01:33 PM

I think my some of my great grandparents were Manx. I remember going there as a child to stay with a great aunt, but I haven't been since.

Ailuros · 05-14-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emslight

Random question for you ladies. I see all over this site that lots of people eat sausages but every type I find seem to have loads of carbs. What brand do you go for and if I go to BBQ am I best just sticking with the pure meat rather than the sausages because they're an unknown?

I think the duchy original chipolatas are just meat and seasoning. But they're thin, of course, not a nice fat juicy banger. It's a long time since I looked - I've been getting the ones my butcher makes. I think they're about 4g carb per sausage, which I don't mind, but uses up a big chunk of your allowance if you're sticking to 20g per day.

mrs_mad · 05-14-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emslight

Random question for you ladies. I see all over this site that lots of people eat sausages but every type I find seem to have loads of carbs.

Go for the 'finest'/'taste the difference'/'the best' ranges - check the carb count on the back. We usually go for Pork and Leek, or plain pork. No more than 3-4g carbs/100g (I think). I also get some very nice one's at my local butchers - they're real erm.....meaty but have no idea of carb count, so we keep for special occaissons e.g. summer barbie with friends, etc.

mrs_mad · 05-14-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailuros

I think my some of my great grandparents were Manx. I remember going there as a child to stay with a great aunt, but I haven't been since.

It's still one of my favourite places - still quaint and no concept of time (no offence to manx peeps who may be reading this). We love the place, which is why it's a fair chunk of our annual holiday budget - oh and the new motorbike blew the rest of the 'non-essentials' budget, and I then had to buy a second hand conservatory from Ebay. How does that work then?

shykins · 05-14-2008, 01:49 PM

i use morrisons best range chipolatas they are only 1 or 2 carbs per sausgae i think

any of the finest ranges are pretty low in carbs compared to rotten old walls etc with all that bread in

x

Kissa · 05-14-2008, 03:12 PM

Yup, finest or generally posher bangers seem to be the lowest carb options.

I caught head lice in Nobles Hospital when I was 4. Lol. Nowadays that would be considered a blessing compared to all the terrible bugs that are everywhere.

shykins · 05-15-2008, 01:08 AM

isle of man thats another place on my list to visit.. its getting longer by the mnute lol

oh well we have malta in 3 and half weeks to look forward to first and possibly our postponed visit to london this weekend (subject to the decisions of an 11yr old!!!)

the poor kids have been doing SATS all week and my son for the first time ever has terrible hayfever, lord knows what that will do to his results.. oh well they are too young anyways harrumph!!!

x

junkfoodmonkey · 05-15-2008, 02:06 AM

I agree on the sausages, they are a real "you get what you pay for" item and you have to go for the quality ones. Tesco Finest do a nice range. Or even better if you've got a good old fashioned family butcher who will make some for you to your specifications.

Ailuros · 05-15-2008, 02:11 AM

If you have the time and like that sort of thing, they're pretty easy to make. I do it sometimes, and sometimes I buy them. We don't have a freezer, so making big batches isn't feasible, but I just bought a £10 attachment for my mixer, that basically consists of a plastic tube that fits on the mincer. You put the sausage skin (can get them on-line or from a friendly butcher) onto the tube, then put the minced meat through, as if you were mincing it again, and the mincer screw pushes it into the skins. It's like a miniature version of the machine the butcher uses.

Alcmene · 05-15-2008, 02:35 AM

Sausages - either Black Farmers or the Gluten Free Debbie and Andrew's Favourite Harrogate Pork Sausages are good, check the labels.

shykins · 05-15-2008, 08:32 AM

keep reading about those debbie and andrew ones but have yet to see them anywhere!!

ailuros well done on making them i guess that would be the ideal then u really know whats in them.. think i will trust my butcher tho or am i just lazy lol

having pork kebabs (from butcher again) and at the moment they are marinating in a sauce from budweiser and its pretty low carb too which is
great

poo to rotten old rain and cloud back today <sigh>

x

emslight · 05-15-2008, 09:03 AM

Thanks everyone for your advice. The ones I'd got are Tesco finest chipolatas. They have approx 2 carbs for 2 (rather thin) sausages. I was wondering if I could do better than that!

shykins · 05-15-2008, 11:36 AM

think thats about as low as they go but u could have 3 or 4 of them at least

kebabs i had were lovely and prob only worked out a couple carbs each

x

Ailuros · 05-15-2008, 11:39 AM

I thought the Duchy chipolatas were all meat, but it was a while ago when I looked. I'll have to check next time I'm shopping.

CosmicMuffin · 05-15-2008, 12:03 PM

Hi all checking in....

Things are nuts with the end of school. I have been working a lot. I am also waiting to hear from the Audiology board. That is driving me nuts and waiting on exam results. But other than that things are good. Exercising and on track with my food. However, last night I was having some serious food dreams. Hummm not sure what that is all about.

Ohh and Goat Farmer broke his hand being a man. So he had surgery Tuesday. I do feel a little bit sorry for him but then there is the part of me that laughs at him being stupid.
Everything else appears to be ok today.

Mimosa23 · 05-16-2008, 01:44 AM

Hey all!

You are lucky in the UK, here in Spain they don't label the sausages properly, or at least I can't read it properly, so I have no clue what's in them or how many carbs they have...

Cosmic: Glad all is well, I remember waiting for my university degree results, and it was very stressful, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Kissa/Cindy: WOW!!!! You look absolutely stunning in your avatar pic!!!! Was this taken in Oz? Beautiful!!!!!

I am still in grey weather, so please send me some sunshine this weekend... I have a friend coming over, and would like to have the weather I'm always bragging about!

05-14-2008, 05:56 AM	#66
Kissa Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 3,343 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/132/125 - 130 5' 4" WOE: Atkins Maintainance/Intuitive Eating Start Date: January 2001 restarted 1 September 2006 at 139 lbs	I am already in Devon! Drove down yesterday, here until early June. Mrs Mad....you clearly are mad, but we like that here. I lived in the Isle of Man a child, right on the TT course at Quarterbridge. I have decided to join Mint Q8 and do a bit of Intuitive Eating with McKenna's help. We did it a few years ago with some success but I slipped into just eating what I wanted without all the other guidelines! I have been craving fruit so this is good time of the year to try it. I do know that I wont be craving loads of potatoes, pasta, rice and deserts, they put me to sleep! Wish me luck! __________________ Cindy It's not what you eat between Christmas and New Year that counts, it's what you eat between New Year and Christmas!

05-15-2008, 12:03 PM	#87
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05-13-2008, 01:20 AM	#61
Mimosa23 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State of perpetual confusion! Posts: 3,747 Gallery: Mimosa23 Stats: GOAL!!! Maintaining with a smile! WOE: Maintenance Mediterranean diet	Sounds like some of you are going to be busy bees in the next months! Here, a bit more quiet... My best friend is visiting this weekend, Next weekend my BF's family is visiting. After that both BF and myself have a flat full of guests, Then we are going away for a weekend to the Balearics, After that I have one weekend off, Then a wedding The weekend after that I am going to Holland to see friends, a band and family, After that I'm off on my summer hols for 2 weeks, and when I get back we are in August, and thankfully I haven't made any plans! In the heat (people say it gets terribly hot and humid here...) I don't really want to be entertaining anyone... Diet is quite good, I'm still maintaining and this seems to be without any effort, but I'm still keeping an eye on things. I don't think I can ever really completely relax about my food intake and the type of food I eat! Good thing is, is that here I'm eating pretty clean, so for that the Spanish diet is great! Lots of fresh fish, great meat and very little cheese. Veggies are not eaten much, but they do have some wonderful peppers and tomatoes, and right now I'm eating lots of asparagus and artichokes... My menu today: B: my usual, too much coffee! L: Salad and a chicken breast, maybe a little bread with some olive oil too.. D: I'm being taken out to a Michelin starred restaurant tonight, to celebrate a fragrance award that I won for one of my perfumes, so the diet's out the window! Have a good day everyone!

05-13-2008, 02:05 AM	#62
Ailuros MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,697 Gallery: Ailuros Stats: Maintenance (since 2003) WOE: Controlled carb, real food Start Date: 2003	Congratulations on the award - and the dinner! Actually, those sorts of places aren't usually heavy on the carbs, and the portions aren't huge either, so while it wouldn't work to eat that way every day, it's less of a bash to the diet than many cheaper places. Hope you have a wonderful meal, anyway. Are you near the coast - I saw you mentioned the great fish? I've only been to spain once, but I particularly remember some fantastic grilled sardines, and an amazing fish stew in a kind of Portakabin style hut on a beach. The sherry was good too .

05-13-2008, 02:54 AM	#63
Mimosa23 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State of perpetual confusion! Posts: 3,747 Gallery: Mimosa23 Stats: GOAL!!! Maintaining with a smile! WOE: Maintenance Mediterranean diet	Ailuros: I'm in Barcelona, so in the big city, not far away from the mountains and on the beach! Life just can't get any better! The fish is just fabulous here, the variety and freshness is amazing! My BF is taking me for the dinner to celebrate. The award was already given to the designer who gets to put his name on the fragrance... The people who actually create the fragrances are usually not recognised, unfortunately....

05-13-2008, 03:30 PM	#64
mrs_mad Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK Posts: 42 Gallery: mrs_mad WOE: SMD Start Date: 21st July 2008	Gosh, just re-read my post - I'm even dizzy and tired reading it!!! Mimos, you have some exciting stuff happening too I also forgot - I'm going to see Neil Diamond in June in Birmingham - think I was a bit 'merry' one Saturday night, dancing with my friend to Sweet Caroline, I agreed to keep her company I couldn't go back on my word, so she's had the tickets for weeks now - should be good craic though. btw...I've had another successful LC day Happy losing, Cx

05-13-2008, 11:19 PM	#65
emslight Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London Posts: 645 Blog Entries: 25 Gallery: emslight Stats: 160/139/130 WOE: Atkins/IF/Yeast free Start Date: 8 April 2008	Hi all. I'm going to see Neil Diamond too (at the 02). Had totally forgotten that my hubbie had bought us tickets for Xmas (I was about to have a baby then so it's all a bit of a blur.) Both me and my hubbie grew up with parents who listened to Neil Diamond so it's a real trip down memory lane. V exciting. Hope everyone's good and enjoying the amazing weather we've been having. I've been playing with the girls in the garden everyday and thoroughly enjoying my maternity leave. My 2 year old now uses the birthing pool (we had a homebirth) as a paddling pool! Gearing up now for a holiday to Crete in just under 2 weeks so doing strict induction until then to try and drop a few pounds.

05-14-2008, 12:23 PM	#67
Alcmene Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 781 Gallery: Alcmene Stats: 1st:196//125 Now:175/161/140 WOE: Atkins Start Date: November 2007	Hey I love fruit in summer, when it is hot! I am going to see Neil Diamond on Manchester and I cannot wait, I am going to dress up so need to start trawling EBay for something suitable. What should I wear?

05-14-2008, 12:25 PM	#68
Kissa Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 3,343 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/132/125 - 130 5' 4" WOE: Atkins Maintainance/Intuitive Eating Start Date: January 2001 restarted 1 September 2006 at 139 lbs	I love Neil Diamond! Song Sung Blue is one of my special songs with DH. Cowboy boots!

05-14-2008, 01:24 PM	#70
mrs_mad Junior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK Posts: 42 Gallery: mrs_mad WOE: SMD Start Date: 21st July 2008	Wow Kissa - small world. I've been going to the Isle of Man since I was a baby as mum used to rally. We've aways been into motorbikes (I'm from Northern Ireland) and I lived on the island for a while as I used to work at Noble's Hospital Then I met my hubby there in 2001 (the year of foot and mouth and there was no racing - how's that for fate? ) Now it's our annual pilgrimage, although the week costs us about £1250 and I think we could get 2 weeks all inclusive somewhere really nice for the same money. However, there is a certain draw.... Cx P.S. 'our' song is Fields of Gold by Sting

05-14-2008, 01:31 PM	#72
emslight Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London Posts: 645 Blog Entries: 25 Gallery: emslight Stats: 160/139/130 WOE: Atkins/IF/Yeast free Start Date: 8 April 2008	Random question for you ladies. I see all over this site that lots of people eat sausages but every type I find seem to have loads of carbs. What brand do you go for and if I go to BBQ am I best just sticking with the pure meat rather than the sausages because they're an unknown?

05-14-2008, 01:33 PM	#73
Ailuros MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,697 Gallery: Ailuros Stats: Maintenance (since 2003) WOE: Controlled carb, real food Start Date: 2003	I think my some of my great grandparents were Manx. I remember going there as a child to stay with a great aunt, but I haven't been since.

05-14-2008, 01:49 PM	#77
shykins MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,516 Gallery: shykins Stats: 262/147 goal WOE: atkins Start Date: 19th April 2004	i use morrisons best range chipolatas they are only 1 or 2 carbs per sausgae i think any of the finest ranges are pretty low in carbs compared to rotten old walls etc with all that bread in x

05-14-2008, 03:12 PM	#78
Kissa Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 3,343 Gallery: Kissa Stats: 184/132/125 - 130 5' 4" WOE: Atkins Maintainance/Intuitive Eating Start Date: January 2001 restarted 1 September 2006 at 139 lbs	Yup, finest or generally posher bangers seem to be the lowest carb options. I caught head lice in Nobles Hospital when I was 4. Lol. Nowadays that would be considered a blessing compared to all the terrible bugs that are everywhere.

05-15-2008, 01:08 AM	#79
shykins MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,516 Gallery: shykins Stats: 262/147 goal WOE: atkins Start Date: 19th April 2004	isle of man thats another place on my list to visit.. its getting longer by the mnute lol oh well we have malta in 3 and half weeks to look forward to first and possibly our postponed visit to london this weekend (subject to the decisions of an 11yr old!!!) the poor kids have been doing SATS all week and my son for the first time ever has terrible hayfever, lord knows what that will do to his results.. oh well they are too young anyways harrumph!!! x

05-15-2008, 02:06 AM	#80
junkfoodmonkey MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,688 Blog Entries: 42 Gallery: junkfoodmonkey Stats: 183/156/140 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Reinduction: 01/01/08	I agree on the sausages, they are a real "you get what you pay for" item and you have to go for the quality ones. Tesco Finest do a nice range. Or even better if you've got a good old fashioned family butcher who will make some for you to your specifications.

05-15-2008, 02:11 AM	#81
Ailuros MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,697 Gallery: Ailuros Stats: Maintenance (since 2003) WOE: Controlled carb, real food Start Date: 2003	If you have the time and like that sort of thing, they're pretty easy to make. I do it sometimes, and sometimes I buy them. We don't have a freezer, so making big batches isn't feasible, but I just bought a £10 attachment for my mixer, that basically consists of a plastic tube that fits on the mincer. You put the sausage skin (can get them on-line or from a friendly butcher) onto the tube, then put the minced meat through, as if you were mincing it again, and the mincer screw pushes it into the skins. It's like a miniature version of the machine the butcher uses.

05-15-2008, 02:35 AM	#82
Alcmene Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 781 Gallery: Alcmene Stats: 1st:196//125 Now:175/161/140 WOE: Atkins Start Date: November 2007	Sausages - either Black Farmers or the Gluten Free Debbie and Andrew's Favourite Harrogate Pork Sausages are good, check the labels.

05-15-2008, 08:32 AM	#83
shykins MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,516 Gallery: shykins Stats: 262/147 goal WOE: atkins Start Date: 19th April 2004	keep reading about those debbie and andrew ones but have yet to see them anywhere!! ailuros well done on making them i guess that would be the ideal then u really know whats in them.. think i will trust my butcher tho or am i just lazy lol having pork kebabs (from butcher again) and at the moment they are marinating in a sauce from budweiser and its pretty low carb too which is great poo to rotten old rain and cloud back today <sigh> x

05-15-2008, 09:03 AM	#84
emslight Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London Posts: 645 Blog Entries: 25 Gallery: emslight Stats: 160/139/130 WOE: Atkins/IF/Yeast free Start Date: 8 April 2008	Thanks everyone for your advice. The ones I'd got are Tesco finest chipolatas. They have approx 2 carbs for 2 (rather thin) sausages. I was wondering if I could do better than that!

05-15-2008, 11:36 AM	#85
shykins MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,516 Gallery: shykins Stats: 262/147 goal WOE: atkins Start Date: 19th April 2004	think thats about as low as they go but u could have 3 or 4 of them at least kebabs i had were lovely and prob only worked out a couple carbs each x

05-15-2008, 11:39 AM	#86
Ailuros MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,697 Gallery: Ailuros Stats: Maintenance (since 2003) WOE: Controlled carb, real food Start Date: 2003	I thought the Duchy chipolatas were all meat, but it was a while ago when I looked. I'll have to check next time I'm shopping.