I know not everyone agrees with it but has anyone here been successful on Kimkin's

[Dynamicdoll]

I realize that all diets are not for everyone. I am new, and I have tried just about every diet that there is out there and when I lose weight, and stick to it, usually I eat normally close to what Kimkins recommends.

There are success stories out there. I have read the Metabolism Diet theory and on Mercola.com he states that everyone's body is different and everyone needs to eat for their metabolism. And I have found that is the only way that works for me.

So, I am going to start again but need motivation. However, in all honesty, I still keep getting pulled back to the Kimkin's plan because in my heart I know that is what works for me, so I need to hear from those who are not judgers of it, but who have actually tried it barring all the crap that has been heard, and found it worked and are happy with it.

I have done Atkins and most of the others. But I can't eat a lot of fruit and high carb.

Please answer only if you have actually done the diet with success. We don't want to start up a gunshot conversation here.

Thanks

[2big4mysize]

So, I am going to start again but need motivation. However, in all honesty, I still keep getting pulled back to the Kimkin's plan because in my heart I know that is what works for me, so I need to hear from those who are not judgers of it, but who have actually tried it barring all the crap that has been heard, and found it worked and are happy with it.

The drug like effect of that knowledge that you can lose on the nutrtionally bankrupt diet is very addictive and just like drugs and alcohol will always tug at the mind of somebody who used it. Christin the person who was featured in the WW article because of her large loss using the plan has a post on her blog about just how addictive it is even a yr later knowing the health damage it did to her and even working with a nutrtionist to recover.
There are no long term documneted goalies on that plan to give you the information you seek.


I have a question for you though. since Atkins and eating lots of fruit and high carb are mutually exclusive why not use the Atkins plan as Dr Atkins wrote it and see for yourself how well it works for you and not endanger your health following a diet plan dreamed up by a still obese woman that has no long term studies to support its safety or even success beyond the initial rapid loss from the Very low cals eatten?

[cleochatra]

I am not going to try and dissuade, but I want to pose this question to anyone who would use a plan as a crash diet.

If Kimkins is great, why hasn't Heidi Diaz lost any weight?

Where are her updated pictures? Oh... we won't see those will we? No. Because she's still morbidly obese.

Great "diet".

I have been on Atkins for almost 6 months and have painlessly lost 86 pounds. Painlessly. Without hunger, feeling sick, deprived or needing laxatives. While eating lasagna, pizza, cheesecake and mozzarella sticks.

I can't make anyone listen, but look at Heidi Diaz. Look at me. I have lost the weight. She has not. Which is the better plan?

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by cleochatra

I am not going to try and dissuade, but I want to pose this question to anyone who would use a plan as a crash diet.

If Kimkins is great, why hasn't Heidi Diaz lost any weight?

Where are her updated pictures? Oh... we won't see those will we? No. Because she's still morbidly obese.

Great "diet".

I have been on Atkins for almost 6 months and have painlessly lost 86 pounds. Painlessly. Without hunger, feeling sick, deprived or needing laxatives. While eating lasagna, pizza, cheesecake and mozzarella sticks.

I can't make anyone listen, but look at Heidi Diaz. Look at me. I have lost the weight. She has not. Which is the better plan?

Good question, Cleo.

Some do lose weight on Kimkins but you should see how hard they're struggling to maintain their loss now that their metabolisms & relationships with food are so messed up. The ones who lose generaly regain it fast.

Most just lose some fast, fall off the wagon (because their bodies rebel), then constantly repeat repeat repeat, and never get anywhere - and best themselves up for being 'weak'.

Choose a healthy plan! Not one designed by someone who has yoyo dieted all her life and is STILL doing it.

[London]

Kimkins is not a healthy way of eating. It's important to find a plan you can live with for the rest of your life. Listen to what Cleo and OhYheaBabe have to say, they know what they are talking about.

[amadeus4313]

If you read any of the success stories from Kimkins (other than the sock puppets on the site) you will see that weight loss comes with a big price. You say you can't eat a lot of high carb and fruit - so how does that eliminate Atkins as a plan?

[Mayberryfan]

Yes, Dynamicdoll, starvation is a method for losing weight and Kimkins is a starvation diet. Are you a member there? I just wanted to let you know that posting here is a quick ticket to being banned over at Kimkins, even if you aren't critical of her plan. That's why we call it "Banned Camp" and there are quite a few of us who've been banished from our lifetime memberships by Heidi Diaz, aka Kimmer.

Cleo and the other fine folks here are being totally straight with you. Please ask yourself if it's worth it. You say you've lost weight on Kimkins before, so why do you still need to diet? There are no stats for us to look at. Do you really NEED to lose weight? If so, and Kimkins is a great plan, why weren't you able to maintain what you've lost before?

Kimkins isn't sustainable, dear. It just isn't. If you do it long enough, your body will rebel and you will eat yourself silly. Try something sensible and doctor approved like Atkins or Protein Power. You can do this and be healthy! Starving yourself is NOT a viable, sustainable option!

[Dynamicdoll]

I had to move in with my son and at the time the food I was using wasn't available for 3 months and I wasn't able to stay on the plan and gained again. I had gone down about 23 lbs and felt absolutely great. But, cleo, 86 lbs is great. What Atkins are you using? I have both the early one and the current one. I have just about every diet book going but like, Kimkin's, there was always an uproar as to why one shouldn't do it. I got tired of Atkins when I was on it but it did work at first. So I am in a quandry what to use now. I do like fruit in the summer, but react to the sugar if I eat a lot of it

[Dynamicdoll]

Might just give it a whirl again. Interesting. Any seniors dieting on here looking for a buddy and want to email me?

[cleochatra]

(So you guys know, I'm emailing with DD. Don't want you to think I'm ignoring her!) lol

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Dynamicdoll

So, I am going to start again but need motivation. However, in all honesty, I still keep getting pulled back to the Kimkin's plan because in my heart I know that is what works for me, so I need to hear from those who are not judgers of it, but who have actually tried it barring all the crap that has been heard, and found it worked and are happy with it.

Unfortunately, actual people who fit that bill are difficult to find. Even Tippy Toes cycled it with Atkins.



Good luck finding what works for you.

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by Dynamicdoll

I had to move in with my son and at the time the food I was using wasn't available for 3 months and I wasn't able to stay on the plan and gained again. I had gone down about 23 lbs and felt absolutely great. But, cleo, 86 lbs is great. What Atkins are you using? I have both the early one and the current one. I have just about every diet book going but like, Kimkin's, there was always an uproar as to why one shouldn't do it. I got tired of Atkins when I was on it but it did work at first. So I am in a quandry what to use now. I do like fruit in the summer, but react to the sugar if I eat a lot of it

since you like fruit in the summer Atkins 2002 which is what Cleo does is a great book since OWL is mapped out step by step the things you add back after you finsih induction and 5 net grams of carbs worth of berries/melons shouldn't derail you with too much sugar.

Give it 14 days to get you started and move to OWl you will never get board cause you can add back more of those yummy induction veggies, fresh dairy, nuts/seeds, alcohol ( if you want to), legumes, other fruits, root veggies and whole grains. So the menu possibilities are endless.

[Dynamicdoll]

Great. I know I have that book somewhere. I will have to put my hands on it. I have most of the rest, but that one sounds good. Thanks.

[TaDa!]

I did 2002 Sweetie .. and now on maintenance I can eat a LOT of food!! 2300-2400 calories a day ... You do kimkins .. even if you lose the weight, you will have to continue to eat VERY LOW calories in order not to gain .. it'll be like metabolic prison for life ... Atkins and the Ongoing Weightloss portion, the carb ladder is awesome!! I lost weight well even on as high as 60 net carbs (and 1600 calories or more) when I did it by the plan .. I highly doubt you could eat 1600 calories to MAINTAIN a Kimkins weightloss and succeed ....

[Amyb1569]

I know I am late with this and you have already made the wise decision to try Atkins again. But in case anyone else reads this I wanted to add my 2 cents worth.
I did KK and I lost weight. I looked great and was very excited. It lasted no time. Now I eat one extra thing and I gain 5 pounds. I gained 21 pounds in a matter of a few months eating reg food. While I am happy I got some weight off...I have screwed up my body and metabolism and I am not sure I can fix it.
I also wanted to add my hair is still falling out. My thyroid is out of Wacke and my Vit D drooped each visit. I live in Florida and have a nice tan and my Vit D level was at a all time low of 13.3.
My endo Dr asked me if I was starving myself and said my lab work looked like a WLS patient with no medical following.
Please know I was as desperate to lose the weight as all of you are. But in the long run..KK quick fix last no time but the side effects keep going ...
Good Luck. You can do it healthy on Atkins.

[jenniell]

Ok so I am totally lost what is this diet?? I tried googleing it but all I am getting is the side effects but nothing on the actual diet itself.

[emeraldskye]

Originally Posted by jenniell

Ok so I am totally lost what is this diet?? I tried googleing it but all I am getting is the side effects but nothing on the actual diet itself.

It is low/no fat and very low carbs and very low calories.

Eg. B~ Egg whites, fried with a spray of pam.

L~ 1 C of lettuce with tuna and a dab of light mayo.

S~ Chicken breast, baked, with 1/2 cup green beans.

Snack, a cup of broth or tea. Oh and you can drink diet pop and no exercise is needed.

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by emeraldskye

It is low/no fat and very low carbs and very low calories.

Eg. B~ Egg whites, fried with a spray of pam.

L~ 1 C of lettuce with tuna and a dab of light mayo.

S~ Chicken breast, baked, with 1/2 cup green beans.

Snack, a cup of broth or tea. Oh and you can drink diet pop and no exercise is needed.

That is NOT the diet.

[cleochatra]

The plan is very-low calorie, very low-fat and very-low carbohydrates.

It is jokingly stated that the plan makes ladies to feel nauseated for much of the time (there were even tshirts bragging about this for some time for salew in their store), and the plan is so flawed that Woman's Day had to doll it up to make it look healthy-- but later apologized for representing the plan at all.

[jenniell]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

That is NOT the diet.

Even if that was the diet... no thanks that is way to little food for me plus does not sound yummy. I would rather lose weight slower and still feel like I wasn't denying myself.

[cleochatra]

Sorry-- that should have been Woman's World--not Woman's Day!

[emeraldskye]

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

That is NOT the diet.

Really? That is what she claimed to eat while she posted here. Protein, sans fat, very little in the way of added fats, she advocated for "light" fats and very little carbs. She detested water and only drank aspartame loaded beverages and claimed one did not have to exercise.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by emeraldskye

Really? That is what she claimed to eat while she posted here. Protein, sans fat, very little in the way of added fats, she advocated for "light" fats and very little carbs. She detested water and only drank aspartame loaded beverages and claimed one did not have to exercise.

That's about the size of it! Don't forget her famous "salad spritzer" instead of real salad dressing. Oh how she wishes the evidence weren't here for all to see.

Count me in as one who is seeing a nutritionist to recover from anorexic eating. Although Kimkins didn't cause me to be anorexic, it certainly contributed. To this day, I get tempted to go back to it when I'm not losing like I want to be. Bad idea!

[cleochatra]

You can't eat this on Kimkins

[LChottie07]

Dynamicdoll -

I guess out of all the people on this board, I am probably one of the only ones who has lost and made it to goal using KK (AmyB was close though). I was the one on the cover of the Woman's World magazine. I wish I could say I was happy with the results, but alas, that diet and the damage that it did to me (not just physically, but psychologically) I would never wish on anyone. It is more than just hair loss, or menstrual irregularities. I began suffering heart palpitations, malnutrition induced anxiety attacks, and my pulse dropped so low (36-40 bpm) that the doctors were very concerned. We have a good friend who posts on this board and a few others who not only has lost about 3/4 of her hair, she, just this week, had to have surgury to repair muscle loss that she indured due to following the Kimkins program.

The diet (even the tweaked version allowing 800 cals minimum) is nutritionally bankrupt and VERY dangerous. I know of others suffering from thyroid issues, gall bladder issues, and I also have another good friend who passed out while using this program from malnutrition and broke her ankle. I would NEVER recommend following this program now.

While I have quazi-maintained this loss for over a year now. My weight is up. I do not know of ONE true success story from following this program that has been able to happily and healthfuly maintin their loss either. Unlike people like our dear Cleo here who not only will continue to lose, and do so very healthfully and happily, but she will also be able to very easily transition to a maintenance WOE that will allow her to CONTINUE to eat well and not worry about every bite she puts in her mouth.

I on the other hand, still struggle. I'm doing much better... but my transition has been a slow painful one. Maintenance should be exciting and joyful. To me... it's been painful and discouraging. Please do your body and those around you a HUGE favor and learn to eat the RIGHT way. Eating good healthful whole proteins, fats, and veggies you will feel so much better about yourself. Quick weight loss is a VERY short lived excitement.

Originally Posted by emeraldskye

It is low/no fat and very low carbs and very low calories.

Eg. B~ Egg whites, fried with a spray of pam.

L~ 1 C of lettuce with tuna and a dab of light mayo.

S~ Chicken breast, baked, with 1/2 cup green beans.

Snack, a cup of broth or tea. Oh and you can drink diet pop and no exercise is needed.

Originally Posted by Deb294evr

That is NOT the diet.

Deb - you're correct... that's more along the lines of boot camp. HOWEVER.. That is very similar to what Heidi privately was pushing and instructing me towards at the end of my diet program.

And Deb... please... do not let Heidi fool you. No matter what she is saying about me or any of the other people here. We do care. I am not bitter. I am not upset about losing my position or that I may never get "publicity" through promoting KK. ON the contrary. I am heartbroken that Heidi continues to show such a lack of contrition and regard towards people like Grantoangels... who JUST THIS WEEK (see above) had to have surgery to repair the damage that she sustained using KK. This is not about a job. This is about having a heart. A heart for those in pain and hurting, those who have been decieved and are betrayed.