Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17

[Diana]

So... How much weight has Heidi/CB lost now? Any nw pictures?

[DEEDLYNN]

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Why would that be a TOS violation?

Carly & Dee, congratulations, BTW.

OH YEAH...
It wasn't that one that was against TOS...It was the first one that was sent by the sign on "owner" where she called Heidi a "female dog".

[Carly07]

We can't seem to win for losing over here..

Thank you guys for the pats on the back..

Honestly I thought that getting our names out there one more time might SAVE ONE MORE PERSON. If i can get one more person to question what is going on over there I will have succeeded in reaching my goal. Personally at this point in time I could CARELESS that some of you think it was counter productive or a waste of time.. It may have been a waste of time but it was MINE TIME NOT YOURS so what do you care???

Yes and ticked off this morning... yes I rarely get this way.. and yes I rarely bring attention to myself but dang ... all I see is Dee this Dee that Dee the other.. I came here for support because I NEED HELP. I do not say that often.. hardly EVER and what am I met with.. but repeated bashings of my friend and some of the bashing is for something I DID! Now that hurts.. really hurts. Carly isn't just a shadow you guys.. i am real a real person. A real person who needed help and looked to people who had been in my shoes to find it.. what I found is a bunch of ( you know who you are.. and I admit it is NOT ALL OF YOU) ladies who are looking for the next thing/person to rip apart.. if you focus half as much effort on Kimmer as you have Dee in the last two weeks.. I bet you would be one more step closer to shutting down that little slice of hell on earth.

I don't care that someone found me by my email address.. guess what .. people inside the Kimpound did NOT have that address. Also do you KNOW what happens when you google Carly07???? There are 704 pages found. Carly is not a unique name.

Now if you will excuse me.. I am going to find a cup of coffee to cry in.. cause I don't really like beer before 8 am.

What really gets me.. I came here this morning to tell you all I had updated my blog and I thought it was funny and that if wanted to enjoy and smile this morning go take a look..

To the people who have helped me and supported me. thank you I appreciate each and every tidbit I have gotten from you all.

The rest.. the ones that question each and every move.. Thank you for pushing me backwards one more step and making me feel like there is no way I will ever fit in anywhere.

[DEEDLYNN]

Carly.....it's okay...drink your coffee, but don't cry. Just wanted you to know that I think you did a great job as well as our cheerleaders at yahoo...and...of course...the person who donated her lifetime membership--well...you did her proud....

And BTW--it worked....my email box had several....actually I believe about 6 emails from folks that saw it and saw our blogs. Some of the ones that read them and acted on them...really surprised me because they had deep roots there.

Two of them said thank you.

I was also asked for information on sites where we were trying to find "home".

None of them were negative....NOT ONE!!! (except the one I got last night and you already knew about that one.).

So...it was not counter-productive...at least for me...it was the most productive two hours that I have had in the last 2 weeks.

Thanks girlfriend!!!!
Dee

[Carly07]

Just FYI.. Renee is showing online. Interesting.

[Larcana]

A little info on Borderline Personality Disorder can be fround at this site:
psychcentral dot com slash disorders .
It may be something to think about. Not saying anyone in particular has this disorder but, there are features of the symptoms that a relative to this thread's discussion.

Lauren

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

Would you like that shaken or stirred?

Sometimes on the days where it feels like you've done nothing - you've done more than you know. It is good to take some down time and re-energize.

I want to know what happened on Sam's blog/site - why he changed the page the way he did. I've known about it, and some will want to kill me for this - but I want Sam to visit and talk.

Can you give me a link?

[Carly07]

I thought today I would feel.. just a tad better.

I don't.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Carly07

I thought today I would feel.. just a tad better.

I don't.

[DEEDLYNN]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Me, too, because I am.


Do these words ring a bell, Dee? They should, because you wrote them:


From DEEDLYNN's intro post on KK 06/04/2007:

("June Newbie Buddies" thread): 11 Months, 3 Weeks ago

"I read the article in the magazine and this is the answer to my prayers.

1) Failed LAPBAND surgery in 2006, which put me $17,000 in debt. (I did lose 75 lbs and have kept off 60).

2) Tried Liquid Diet......excrutiatingly painful. Hard to just drink 5-7 shakes a day.

3) This is doable. This is doable. Quick results to keep me motiviated it sounds like. I am doing the HAPPY DANCE all over the place. I am soooooooooooooooooo excited."





Me, too!

Sheridan.....what is it that you plan to accomplish. I think I've proven that I'm on "your" side. I think we are all aware that you can find just about anything I have ever written (I like to write alot).

Did you read the part about me wanting to fit in at KK? Did you read the part about my having just lost a very important relationship in May over weight? Did you read the part about being devastated over the loss of a LAPBAND? Do you think that back in June of 2007, when I was writing, that I may not have been thinking clearly...that maybe I just didn't want to feel like a failure and wanted to be accepted? Did I mention that I was off work on disability because they were having trouble getting my meds right? What more of my life would you like me to open...I was at the doctor every week during that time and weighed everytime I went....would you like my medical records? Would you like the records from my weight loss surgeon? Exactly what would make you happy at this point?

I think I can put together a pretty good paper trail from doctors, WW, Optifast, etc of my weight for the past 5 years. Maybe I can scan it here and you can analyze not only my weight, but diagnosis and prescribed the remedy for my OCD, depression, etc. I've been looking for those answers anyway...if not, can we please give this a rest...AGAIN...I'm not your whipping post...I don't mind answering questions, but I do mind answering ACCUSATIONS.

[Larcana]

Carly,
What were you hoping to accomplish? Sometimes what you think you want isn't going to make you feel better.
Lauren

[Larcana]

What you may be feeling is grief and anxiety. Commonly felt when we leave one situation for another. Time will help you.
Lauren

[Carly07]

Lauren. I believe I posted above I just wanted to reach one more person.. that would have made me feel better.. but what I accomplished was people here telling me I was wrong for doing what I did. I don't feel wrong about it at all.. I don't feel upset over that at all.

I am upset because once again.. there is a sign on the door that says People Like you don't belong here, you can't follow our rules and the way we think. I hate seeing riffs.. and when I see some people saying. good job. and others saying.. what were you thinking??? I created a riff..

Am I making sense?

[KristenT]

Originally Posted by Carly07

Lauren. I believe I posted above I just wanted to reach one more person.. that would have made me feel better.. but what I accomplished was people here telling me I was wrong for doing what I did. I don't feel wrong about it at all.. I don't feel upset over that at all.

I am upset because once again.. there is a sign on the door that says People Like you don't belong here, you can't follow our rules and the way we think. I hate seeing riffs.. and when I see some people saying. good job. and others saying.. what were you thinking??? I created a riff..

Am I making sense?

Well, for whatever it's worth Carly and Dee, I think you did something good. If you helped someone over there, I believe the ends justify the means. Don't be too hard on yourself just because a couple people are shaking their fingers at you, they'll get over it.

[This time]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Girl, you will be mentioned for the simple fact that you came on here today and posted. So, prepare yourself.

You won't ever fit in anywhere that you don't allow yourself to. You have to get comfortable in your own skin. Be it 350 pounds or 110. I am 287 pounds today and you had better believe that I am comfortable in my own skin. When I am old and gray and saggy, I will be even more comfortable in my skin!

You saying you are not good enough is completely illogical. Not good enough because lapband surgery didn't work out for you? It's not a magic bullet - it doesn't work for everybody.

Not good enough because of Kimkins, honey, it was a scam starvation diet that many of us have fallen prey to. The likelihood of failure with KK is about 99.9%.

Not good enough because people here have questions about your authenticity? We could question the color of the sky on a Sunday and that wouldn't amount to a hill of beans regarding your worth.

Whatever therapist you spent money on was a waste of space because you need a new one...and you need to tell that negative nancy in your head to shut up because you're telling yourself lies.

Nessa...your my hero Ok back to reading, I'm 14 pages behind Linda

[Larcana]

Yes, you're making sense, I was just wondering if you realized that we sometimes don't get just what we were planning to, and the fallout can be painful. Did you think about this before?
I didn't say you don't belong here. Sorry if it came off that way. I tend not to comment much but I have read all through this thread and I started at the beginning before I even ventured in. When I first posted I felt like the group didn't trust me. They didn't. Why should they? It takes time. There are a lot of feelings involved.
The ducks have taken on a twisted person and she is very good at handling people.

Am I making sense?
Lauren

[DEEDLYNN]

Carly...you have read the posts to me over the weeks...some like me...some hate me....some have been nice to me....some would rather serve me up on a platter. No matter what I do on this thread, its the wrong thing.
But, I'm compelled to be here...whether it started to "clear" my name and continued as "getting" Heidi...I don't know.
Try to ignore the posts that appear to "slap" you around. It's a vicious cycle...you answer, the answer is not liked, your slapped again, you bite back, they go.."what'd we do...we were just asking questions, that's what we do,", you retreat and try to answer questions...they slap you again. That's not everyone out there and that's what we need to concentrate on. There were people here helping us last night. It no one was telling us to stop....yet, as soon as we reported that "xxxx" had been banned, within minutes, the critiqueing started. If someone didn't want us to do it, why not post a c & d post at the time....no nothing like that until after the fact....
So, to those of you that helped us...thanks...
To those who emailed me while it was going on....thanks
To those who appreciate that we tried to do something...whether it was right or wrong...thanks
To those who just want to find fault with anything that I do...and now Carly....well, continue finding fault....I guess...."it's what you do".

[Larcana]

Dee,
FWIW, I wasn't finding fault. I applaud your effort. Like I said this can take some time.
Lauren

[DEEDLYNN]

Sorry Lauren...I wasn't referring to you. but thanks.

[conbofan9]

Ok, I posted and deleted this about 10 times now...this time I am hitting submit!

This thread is like anywhere else in life, except with a lot of emotion. You will never get along with everyone in a crowd, you will never like everyone in a crowd and nowhere will everyone like you. In this situation, things are a little more magnified because we are dealing with raw emotions; pain, hurt, fear, anger, sickness....

This is my opinion only!!! I think the best way to take this is with caution. If someone says something that has offended or hurt you, I would take it to email or pm and settle it there. when 2 people start a disagreement there will always be others that join to either help the attack or help the defense and then things get out of control. this is how things are when there are real, serious painful emotions attached.

I dont have a dog in this fight. never did KK, never knew her.... I was around at the beginning ( the sheriff McDuck avi)... tried to find russian brides on those famous sites, and then moved into lurk mode since there was nothing else i could contribute. i help pull weeds in the background, and still read daily. i empathize with the feelings of everyone here...offer a comment when i can and that is about all i can do from here. but being on the outside with no vested emotion in this ( xcept for anger at the hurt going around) I see the attacks and defenses going on and I dont think its healthy or helping anything. again, i think the best way to deal with things right now, is take a deep breath, and first and foremost to let each other know when something was hurtful!....

OK carry on....backing out and going back to lurking...( hitting submit..)

[DEEDLYNN]

Originally Posted by conbofan9

Ok, I posted and deleted this about 10 times now...this time I am hitting submit!

This thread is like anywhere else in life, except with a lot of emotion. You will never get along with everyone in a crowd, you will never like everyone in a crowd and nowhere will everyone like you. In this situation, things are a little more magnified because we are dealing with raw emotions; pain, hurt, fear, anger, sickness....

This is my opinion only!!! I think the best way to take this is with caution. If someone says something that has offended or hurt you, I would take it to email or pm and settle it there. when 2 people start a disagreement there will always be others that join to either help the attack or help the defense and then things get out of control. this is how things are when there are real, serious painful emotions attached.

I dont have a dog in this fight. never did KK, never knew her.... I was around at the beginning ( the sheriff McDuck avi)... tried to find russian brides on those famous sites, and then moved into lurk mode since there was nothing else i could contribute. i help pull weeds in the background, and still read daily. i empathize with the feelings of everyone here...offer a comment when i can and that is about all i can do from here. but being on the outside with no vested emotion in this ( xcept for anger at the hurt going around) I see the attacks and defenses going on and I dont think its healthy or helping anything. again, i think the best way to deal with things right now, is take a deep breath, and first and foremost to let each other know when something was hurtful!....

OK carry on....backing out and going back to lurking...( hitting submit..)

I agree with your suggestion of how to resolve this...however, for me...I don't have PM just yet. I have given out my email repeatedly and even invited questions there. But I don't have folks email addresses to take things outside the thread. So it seems that many can take their pot shots at me and other than this thread, I have no way to respond. Do I think it's healthy for everyone? Absolutely not.

I do appreciate you taking the time to write this post and hit "send". I agree with it, but have no idea what to do about it, other than just sit still, be quiet, and be a target.

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by Angel373

I just want to say good job to Dee and Carly and anyone else who helped them tonight. Glad you get it now, Dee! If even one person saw that and it makes them THINK, then you've done a good thing.

ETA: HUGS to my good friends Gran, Slick, Amyb, and malucas. I've been wanting to come in and say hey but I wanted to make sure I was on topic. LOL

<going back to lurkdom>

Hi Angel373. Welcome to LCF!

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Sheridan.....what is it that you plan to accomplish. I think I've proven that I'm on "your" side.

Um, no, you're not. People with a casual acquaintance with truthtelling aren't ever on my side. Why? Because they aren't trustworthy. I live in Texas, Dee, where a person's word is still considered their bond . . . until they prove otherwise untrustworthy.

I think we are all aware that you can find just about anything I have ever written (I like to write alot).

Sorry Dee, but I'm really not all that interested in what you write. I'm not interested in you personally, but I am interested in shutting Heidi Diaz down, and this project is impeded by people who come in to disrupt a productive project who don't tell the truth. You of all people, being in the legal profession and all, should understand the phrase, "The truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth", right??

This thread is about liars, specifically Heidi Diaz, but you know what? In the process of all this, we've been exposed to and have exposed other liars, too. Lying liars that lie are the bane of our existence. Why? Well, first, because they lie! Duh! The second reason is because extreme damage has been done by lies that went unchallenged for a long time, and you of all people ought to understand that, what with your sudden outrage at . . . being lied to. <gasp>

Did you read the part about me wanting to fit in at KK? Did you read the part about my having just lost a very important relationship in May over weight? Did you read the part about being devastated over the loss of a LAPBAND?

Did you ever consider you're not special with regard to any of these things? That everyone has a story, every person has heartache, heartbreak, and failures? I know any number of people who want to fit in, who have lost important relationships over weight issues, and who have been depressed about unsuccessful surgeries of various kinds. Did they lie about it? NO, they didn't. I have had MAJOR disappointment and heartache in my life. Do I lie about things to gain sympathy? No, I don't. But it sounds like you believe these are all perfectly valid excuses not to tell the truth. I don't, and most people don't, either.

Yes, Dee, you're unique. Just like everybody else!

Do you think that back in June of 2007, when I was writing, that I may not have been thinking clearly...that maybe I just didn't want to feel like a failure and wanted to be accepted? Did I mention that I was off work on disability because they were having trouble getting my meds right?

I have several members of my immediate family, and a handful of friends who are under a doctor's care and who take medication for depression and other related disorders. Do they use their illness to excuse lies? No, they don't. Do they use their problems to hold emotional hostage over others? Nope, and if they try, they don't get away with it for long; it's not kind to them to be able to do so, and it's patently unfair to the others.

What more of my life would you like me to open...

Personally, I don't want ANY more of your life open, Dee. You've shared quite enough here. This isn't an appropriate venue for that sort of thing. Here on LCF we do have a mental health forum that's geared towards such, and although I don't personally believe a person can get all the help they need online, the support in that forum is great.

I was at the doctor every week during that time and weighed everytime I went....would you like my medical records?

You have a mistaken belief I'm interested. I'm NOT. I'm only interested in falsehoods not being told. I want that stopped, and you are the only one who can stop it. No one is putting words in your mouth (keyboard) but you.

Would you like the records from my weight loss surgeon? Exactly what would make you happy at this point?

For you to stop trying to blow smoke up our collective arses. You asked.

I think I can put together a pretty good paper trail from doctors, WW, Optifast, etc of my weight for the past 5 years. Maybe I can scan it here and you can analyze not only my weight, but diagnosis and prescribed the remedy for my OCD, depression, etc. I've been looking for those answers anyway...if not, can we please give this a rest...AGAIN...I'm not your whipping post...I don't mind answering questions, but I do mind answering ACCUSATIONS.

I have compassion for people with problems like yours, but I don't allow my family or friends who have them to get away with deceitfulness blamed on their condition, so why would you think I would do so for a complete stranger on the Internet? I don't abide people who have trouble telling the truth, and you do have trouble doing that, Dee. If you had come in here and not said things that caused me to question your honesty, frankly I would have just put you on ignore after your first several posts. But that might've been what people did when Heidi was here holding court. She told a myriad of lies, many or most of which went unchallenged, and people here and elsewhere believed those lies, they took them to heart. They were hurt by those lies; lies hurt people. That was wrong then, and it's wrong now . . . for Heidi Diaz, for you, for anybody.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Awww, but only HALF of the movie was in color.

I always thought that was so awesome that when Dorothy opened the door of the house and looked out at OZ, it was suddenly in color, when everything else in Kansas (the beginning and ending of the movie) was in black and white.

I saw a documentary about the making of the Wizard of Oz, and they said it was done that way so the drabness of Kansas would be sharply contrasted by the beauty of Oz. Even still, there's no place like home.

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Subject LIne: Kimmer a liar? Message: has everyone heard that our favorite journalist DEEDLYNN was superbanned by Kimmer. Dee is looking for a podcast to reveal what a lying beotch Kimmer really is...stay tuned.

Post of 2 min ago on KK site

Ahh, someone's going out in a blaze of glory!

Originally Posted by NancyElle

Another blast from the past for those who don't remember or need a refresher of the fraud that is Heidi Diaz..... The seeds of the ultimate fraud were being planted on this very message board. Newbies or people who don't know about this....here is another chapter in your primer of the fraud that is Kimmer.

KIMMER--I LOVE YOU!!!!!

Nancy, I think we should appoint you the official Kimmer historian!

O/T, very glad about how AI turned out!