Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17 - Page 90

HoneyBee2 · 05-21-2008, 01:49 PM

Dee- To use a 2005 pic as your before, which is before LAPBAND, and before starting Kimkins, is deceptive or at least suspicious. Others may think of it differently. I guess I will wait for the e-book, Jimmy's podcast/blog or whatever.

But it does give me the impression that you are attributing success to Kimkins, that may not be from Kimkins. Therefore, once your story starts to show cracks and then something like your photobucket pics turn up and the dates on them are not matching your words....

Well, you can very well see that people are going to question you. Not only because that is what they do, but because your own previous behavior and words have now made you questionable.

So the idea that people at kk, that could leave, are now questioning you. That is not the fault of those who noticed how things didn't appear to add up. I think your integrity is your own responsibility.

I also can't even imagine coming into this thread like you did today and not even referencing how you last left the thread. I would be mortified that I let the people of this thread think that I was at death's door with not so much as a word from me saying - Hey, I'm ok. I'm just upset.... I mean something.

But Dee that is just me HoneyBee.
As long as you aren't helping Heidi or trying to manipulate people like her, then your behavior doesn't matter to me. I may not like it and it is not something I look for in a friend...so what...we can just put each other on ignore.

dlslds · 05-21-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awakened

just curious now... photobucket isn't a secure place to store photos??? Are you telling me that anyone can find them???

ETA- just found a setting to make my album private... that should work right?

yes Deni, that's what I do.

Dee we can see your gd pics, you might want to remove those.
ps this FWK thread is not private, anyone can read it including your ex.

new interesting blog posts today:
Prudentia
Medusa

Katinsac · 05-21-2008, 01:54 PM

so Dee...you are saying it took you 11 months to lose the 108+ pounds by tweaking KK, right? and you just used the bigger pic of you to represent where you had been at one time, not necessarily starting KK...right? just trying to get my head around all this. I know it is hard for you but you must by now understand why people are questioning you.

I do have one problem with you (and others who do the same here)...it is the "hinting" about stuff, ex: I will tell it all soon, or the whole story will come out soon and you will understand, blah, blah blah...I, personally, would appreciate if you guys would either not say anything or come out and put what you are hinting at here...what does Jimmy want (or whomever)...a scoop? Gerri

Katinsac · 05-21-2008, 01:57 PM

What Honey said...!!

DEEDLYNN · 05-21-2008, 01:57 PM

Lora....you didn't upset me...no one in particular is upsetting me. It is upsetting that I was trying to show you something...evidence...which is what I deal in, and at every pass it seemed that something "technical" would happen that would make it look like I was lying.
Quite frankly, I'm seeing some of what is being said and I want the truth too. I did not intentionally try to mislead anyone. No I did not lose 108 lbs from Thanksgiving 2007 to April 2008, and wasn't trying to say that. But, I can see in hindsight how someone could take it that way. I not only want the truth, but want to understand the truth.
One of the reasons that people were drawn to me at KK was my writing, my journal. Quite frankly, Heidi even mentioned it...she told me she would love to be able to write like me. I wonder now if she knew enough about my writing to know that I was so in love with what I perceived to be working for me, KIMKINS, that she knew it would be a "glowing" endorsement. I don't know. Is she that great of a PUPPETMASTER? I wouldn't have thought that she could be....but maybe she is. I don't know here background....any college....any psychology classes....how does she know what makes me tick. I don't know...but she does.
So yes, I'm being open...yes, I'm upset....yes, the "grilling" sometimes gets to me....but ultimately, it's not about me...it's about the truth.

SMP · 05-21-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

However, my question was and still is, why was the before picture that was used one from 2005? I had seen the 2007 race pic and the starting of her kimkins plan was much closer to that pic, then the 2005 pic.

Honey, let me rephrase your question as I understand it. You are really asking Dee whether she had lost weight between the infamous 2005 "race" picture , but before starting Kimkins, right? I think Dee already has said she did. IOW, what you see in her Kimkins pix is weight loss that can't 100% be attributed to Kimkins, right? I believe Dee mentioned that as well. However, I also think you are asking if we should believe someone who presumably lied about losing ALL her weight doing Kimkins. I don't see it as a lie, particularly when , amongst the pages and pages of recriminations and denials, that truth is there as well.

But Dee, as others have said, don't give the credit to Kimmer - you lost the weight, both before and during Kimkins. We'll just have to accept that you still feel a certain amount of gratitude for losing it ...and move on.

SydneyN · 05-21-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I do have one problem with you (and others who do the same here)...it is the "hinting" about stuff, ex: I will tell it all soon, or the whole story will come out soon and you will understand, blah, blah blah...I, personally, would appreciate if you guys would either not say anything or come out and put what you are hinting at here...what does Jimmy want (or whomever)...a scoop? Gerri

ITA!!! Whether it be Dee or anyone else, I don't like the cliffhanger stuff.

But that's JMHO.

DEEDLYNN · 05-21-2008, 02:07 PM

No..unfortunately...I did not do the Flying Pig...

kat...the 2005 Race pic...I was 350 lbs.....when I started in June of 2007, I was 347.5. Its that simple. I think that is the right pic to depict how I started the program.

Sorry about the "hinting" of stuff....I'm trying to let you know that there is more to the story...but quite frankly, when it comes out....the grilling that I haven't gotten so far will be nothing. It's nothing that you guys haven't heard before. There are going to be some that understand...there will be some that want to badger me....there will be some that label me a liar...it's not going to be pretty for me anyway you slice. So, in this whole mess there were 2 people that I decided that I trusted beyond a doubt...1 is Christen and 2 is Jimmy Moore. For that reason, I wrote the entire sorrid story to Jimmy Moore...we originally discussed a PODCAST, but I believe it will come out in a blog. I don't know when...I hope soon. It's very sensitve to me...because no one else on this earth knows...not my family, not my friends...no one. So, I turned it over to one of the people that I trust...so it could be told. It needed to be told. It's true and it's an ugly realization of KK, that I have just admitted to myself within the past week.

Jimmy never asked me for a "scoop", I went to him for help.

LChottie07 · 05-21-2008, 02:11 PM

We interrupt this program to bring you an
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!

I will always admit my mistakes, and I am faced now with a mistake that I have made. I said very authoritatively that our dear friend and pro-KK poster “Crispybread” was Heidi. This was said based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence that had been gathered at that point in time. This evidence however, was misinterpreted and I was wrong. Now, however, after an amazing team effort, we have, without a doubt, discovered the TRUE Identity of “Crispybread.”

Check it out:
The Best Laid Plans
Will the REAL CrispyBread Please Stand Up?
The TRUTH About CrispyBread

OhYeahBabe · 05-21-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammymomma

Thank you for your concern, I am not in distress over this- I just think there is bigger fish to fry.

I can agree with this. Dee's not trying to profit from her weight loss. She's already said she modified Kimkins to meet her needs, therefore if she's lost 5 pounds or 500 pounds, it wasn't Kimkins that did it. She's acknowledged that she wouldn't recommend the diet to anyone, and that if asked she will say she lost her weight on lowcarb. If she's lying to herself, Heidi or us about how and when she lost weight, I'm not sure it's really relevant. What's important is her motives for being here, and what she's going to do about what she's learned.

I do hope that she won't continue to give Heidi FREE marketing and will do something about her homepage pictures & success story.

DEEDLYNN · 05-21-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Dee- To use a 2005 pic as your before, which is before LAPBAND, and before starting Kimkins, is deceptive or at least suspicious. Others may think of it differently. I guess I will wait for the e-book, Jimmy's podcast/blog or whatever.

But it does give me the impression that you are attributing success to Kimkins, that may not be from Kimkins. Therefore, once your story starts to show cracks and then something like your photobucket pics turn up and the dates on them are not matching your words....

Well, you can very well see that people are going to question you. Not only because that is what they do, but because your own previous behavior and words have now made you questionable.

So the idea that people at kk, that could leave, are now questioning you. That is not the fault of those who noticed how things didn't appear to add up. I think your integrity is your own responsibility.

I also can't even imagine coming into this thread like you did today and not even referencing how you last left the thread. I would be mortified that I let the people of this thread think that I was at death's door with not so much as a word from me saying - Hey, I'm ok. I'm just upset.... I mean something.

But Dee that is just me HoneyBee.
As long as you aren't helping Heidi or trying to manipulate people like her, then your behavior doesn't matter to me. I may not like it and it is not something I look for in a friend...so what...we can just put each other on ignore.

HoneyBee....you will no longer see me attribute my weight loss to KK...not sure what to attribute it to at this point...but not KK.

Someone else in here identified words and behavior as a natural human response. That's exactly what my words and behavior in here have been. I natural human response. Defense..right or wrong. I have behaved in a manner to defend myself against what I have felt to be attacks. Some more vicious than others...but I think that we have a common goal here and I'm trying to handle it the best way I know how.

As far as how I left the thread the day before yesterday...I realize that the typed word does not have the same effect as the spoken word. I realize that it can come across more literal and direct. Whether or not you agree with what I said...which I won't repeat here...you can quote if you want, or re-read, or re-hash....that's how I felt at the time....and still can feel at times. Have I been suicidal? yes, Have I been hospitalized for it? yes-a couple of occassions. Was that the case that night? no. Do I have experience with loved ones commiting suicide? yes. Have I lost close loved ones yes? (only sibling--died in an auto accident). Do I feel like my life is worth living---sometimes yes/sometimes no...it's a cold hard fact of me... Am I sorry if I struck a chord with someone else by that statement? Yes, I am very sorry. That wasn't the intention. The intention was internal (Dee) not external (any reader). The responses brought some tears to my eyes if that means anything....some people were mad...because I had struck a nerve of their past....some were concerened.... one who didn't owe me anything--reminded me of Amberlee...(so without sitting her at work crying my eyes out), I will just say I'm sorry for whatever poor feelings that it brought up in any of you. I am truly sorry.

wifezilla · 05-21-2008, 02:17 PM

Good one Chrsitine....and TOM, and everyone else!

jo2621 · 05-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LChottie07

We interrupt this program to bring you an
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!

I will always admit my mistakes, and I am faced now with a mistake that I have made. I said very authoritatively that our dear friend and pro-KK poster “Crispybread” was Heidi. This was said based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence that had been gathered at that point in time. This evidence however, was misinterpreted and I was wrong. Now, however, after an amazing team effort, we have, without a doubt, discovered the TRUE Identity of “Crispybread.”

Check it out:
The Best Laid Plans
Will the REAL CrispyBread Please Stand Up?
The TRUTH About CrispyBread

Now I would pay cash money to see old Crispy in a skimpy exercise outfit at Curves!!!

conbofan9 · 05-21-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LChottie07

We interrupt this program to bring you an
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!

I will always admit my mistakes, and I am faced now with a mistake that I have made. I said very authoritatively that our dear friend and pro-KK poster “Crispybread” was Heidi. This was said based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence that had been gathered at that point in time. This evidence however, was misinterpreted and I was wrong. Now, however, after an amazing team effort, we have, without a doubt, discovered the TRUE Identity of “Crispybread.”

Check it out:
The Best Laid Plans
Will the REAL CrispyBread Please Stand Up?
The TRUTH About CrispyBread

good work!!! now may he be punished for what he did! maybe he is heidi's long lost son or something! they have to be related to both be so cruel and vile!!!!

SydneyN · 05-21-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LChottie07

We interrupt this program to bring you an
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!

I will always admit my mistakes, and I am faced now with a mistake that I have made. I said very authoritatively that our dear friend and pro-KK poster “Crispybread” was Heidi. This was said based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence that had been gathered at that point in time. This evidence however, was misinterpreted and I was wrong. Now, however, after an amazing team effort, we have, without a doubt, discovered the TRUE Identity of “Crispybread.”

Check it out:
The Best Laid Plans
Will the REAL CrispyBread Please Stand Up?
The TRUTH About CrispyBread

WTG everyone who helped figure this out.

I thought for sure it was Heidi. But I guess it's not too far off.

Larcana · 05-21-2008, 02:20 PM

Dee,
You sure have had a rough go of it. I hope you know that we do care about your well being even if we are curious. Know this each of us here has had our own journey.
That's the glue that holds us together.
Lauren

DEEDLYNN · 05-21-2008, 02:21 PM

The final cap on the pics and the dates of weight loss. All 108 lbs was lost between June of 2007 and April 2008.

It was a time that I had identified as KIMKINS. It was not Heidi's credit...it was a manipulated mess, of a flawed diet scam, that forced unhealthy and un-natural behaviors on me. Period end. (But...it was between June 2007 and April 2008-LOL-so ultimately...Heidi will get all the credit...for the damage that her scam has done to me...mentally).

Larcana · 05-21-2008, 02:22 PM

Good work! That CB always gives me the creeps!
Lauren

DEEDLYNN · 05-21-2008, 02:23 PM

Larcana--I'm banking on the glue part....betting everything on it...because thats the same type of glue that the support groups at the ..other site....had.

Katinsac · 05-21-2008, 02:24 PM

CB = heidi = Gary...what's the dif? One is obviously as bad as the other...they both deserve (and SL) to get what they get

good job all and a big thinks to Tom

NancyElle · 05-21-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo2621

Now I would pay cash money to see old Crispy in a skimpy exercise outfit at Curves!!!

OMG, that's right! CB had to leave because he/she was going to Curves....off to Curves...I remember. Lord have mercy.

GREAT JOB TO ALL THE SUPER SLEUTHS WHO HAD A PART IN THIS DISCOVERY!!!!!
'

Katinsac · 05-21-2008, 02:29 PM

Great sluthing!! Now...get out there and find the MCD hidden site or Heidi's porn site!!

LoraJR72 · 05-21-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SydneyN

ITA!!! Whether it be Dee or anyone else, I don't like the cliffhanger stuff.

But that's JMHO.

Me, too!

I want to be around to hear and see the day when KK's website is closed down for GOOD and be part of the reason why it was!

Is that wrong of me?

KristenT · 05-21-2008, 02:31 PM

Okay, Crispy Bread = Gary,(still going to Curves, GARY??

) I get that, but so is that who was writing the 2 sides to every story blog or was that Dee? I'm kinda lost.

05-21-2008, 01:49 PM	#2671
HoneyBee2 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Your Bonnet Posts: 2,407 Blog Entries: 4 Gallery: HoneyBee2 Stats: Bored Housewife...Right :) WOE: Honey	Dee- To use a 2005 pic as your before, which is before LAPBAND, and before starting Kimkins, is deceptive or at least suspicious. Others may think of it differently. I guess I will wait for the e-book, Jimmy's podcast/blog or whatever. But it does give me the impression that you are attributing success to Kimkins, that may not be from Kimkins. Therefore, once your story starts to show cracks and then something like your photobucket pics turn up and the dates on them are not matching your words.... Well, you can very well see that people are going to question you. Not only because that is what they do, but because your own previous behavior and words have now made you questionable. So the idea that people at kk, that could leave, are now questioning you. That is not the fault of those who noticed how things didn't appear to add up. I think your integrity is your own responsibility. I also can't even imagine coming into this thread like you did today and not even referencing how you last left the thread. I would be mortified that I let the people of this thread think that I was at death's door with not so much as a word from me saying - Hey, I'm ok. I'm just upset.... I mean something. But Dee that is just me HoneyBee. As long as you aren't helping Heidi or trying to manipulate people like her, then your behavior doesn't matter to me. I may not like it and it is not something I look for in a friend...so what...we can just put each other on ignore. __________________ HoneyBee My Blog-HoneyBee's blog My Blog-I am Not Ready to Make Nice __________________________________

05-21-2008, 01:54 PM	#2673
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	so Dee...you are saying it took you 11 months to lose the 108+ pounds by tweaking KK, right? and you just used the bigger pic of you to represent where you had been at one time, not necessarily starting KK...right? just trying to get my head around all this. I know it is hard for you but you must by now understand why people are questioning you. I do have one problem with you (and others who do the same here)...it is the "hinting" about stuff, ex: I will tell it all soon, or the whole story will come out soon and you will understand, blah, blah blah...I, personally, would appreciate if you guys would either not say anything or come out and put what you are hinting at here...what does Jimmy want (or whomever)...a scoop? Gerri __________________ Kat "Once you go quack, you never go back!" ~Dottie "Is it too late to take that back?" The Kimmer!! Kimkins Join The Lawsuit Against Kimkins

05-21-2008, 02:11 PM	#2679
LChottie07 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 314 Gallery: LChottie07 Stats: Maintaining and adjusting WOE: God's Way/Clean Eating Start Date: October 2, 2006	We interrupt this program to bring you an IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!! I will always admit my mistakes, and I am faced now with a mistake that I have made. I said very authoritatively that our dear friend and pro-KK poster “Crispybread” was Heidi. This was said based on a great deal of circumstantial evidence that had been gathered at that point in time. This evidence however, was misinterpreted and I was wrong. Now, however, after an amazing team effort, we have, without a doubt, discovered the TRUE Identity of “Crispybread.” Check it out: The Best Laid Plans Will the REAL CrispyBread Please Stand Up? The TRUTH About CrispyBread __________________ *The Road Less Traveled is its own Journey that we take, one step at a time, and it doesn't end on a number.* LC Hottie - Christin D.I.E.T Discover your triggers; Invent new ways of thinking; Extinguish your old perceptions; Transform your life The Journey

05-21-2008, 02:31 PM	#2694
KristenT MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,380 Gallery: KristenT WOE: Atkins Start Date: August 15 2005, restarted 12/31/07	Okay, Crispy Bread = Gary,(still going to Curves, GARY??) I get that, but so is that who was writing the 2 sides to every story blog or was that Dee? I'm kinda lost.

05-21-2008, 01:57 PM	#2674
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	What Honey said...!!

05-21-2008, 01:57 PM	#2675
DEEDLYNN Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 906 Gallery: DEEDLYNN	Lora....you didn't upset me...no one in particular is upsetting me. It is upsetting that I was trying to show you something...evidence...which is what I deal in, and at every pass it seemed that something "technical" would happen that would make it look like I was lying. Quite frankly, I'm seeing some of what is being said and I want the truth too. I did not intentionally try to mislead anyone. No I did not lose 108 lbs from Thanksgiving 2007 to April 2008, and wasn't trying to say that. But, I can see in hindsight how someone could take it that way. I not only want the truth, but want to understand the truth. One of the reasons that people were drawn to me at KK was my writing, my journal. Quite frankly, Heidi even mentioned it...she told me she would love to be able to write like me. I wonder now if she knew enough about my writing to know that I was so in love with what I perceived to be working for me, KIMKINS, that she knew it would be a "glowing" endorsement. I don't know. Is she that great of a PUPPETMASTER? I wouldn't have thought that she could be....but maybe she is. I don't know here background....any college....any psychology classes....how does she know what makes me tick. I don't know...but she does. So yes, I'm being open...yes, I'm upset....yes, the "grilling" sometimes gets to me....but ultimately, it's not about me...it's about the truth.

05-21-2008, 02:07 PM	#2678
DEEDLYNN Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 906 Gallery: DEEDLYNN	No..unfortunately...I did not do the Flying Pig... kat...the 2005 Race pic...I was 350 lbs.....when I started in June of 2007, I was 347.5. Its that simple. I think that is the right pic to depict how I started the program. Sorry about the "hinting" of stuff....I'm trying to let you know that there is more to the story...but quite frankly, when it comes out....the grilling that I haven't gotten so far will be nothing. It's nothing that you guys haven't heard before. There are going to be some that understand...there will be some that want to badger me....there will be some that label me a liar...it's not going to be pretty for me anyway you slice. So, in this whole mess there were 2 people that I decided that I trusted beyond a doubt...1 is Christen and 2 is Jimmy Moore. For that reason, I wrote the entire sorrid story to Jimmy Moore...we originally discussed a PODCAST, but I believe it will come out in a blog. I don't know when...I hope soon. It's very sensitve to me...because no one else on this earth knows...not my family, not my friends...no one. So, I turned it over to one of the people that I trust...so it could be told. It needed to be told. It's true and it's an ugly realization of KK, that I have just admitted to myself within the past week. Jimmy never asked me for a "scoop", I went to him for help.

05-21-2008, 02:17 PM	#2682
wifezilla Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 5,276 Gallery: wifezilla Stats: 250/207/190 WOE: Read em all. Doing it my way. Start Date: May 2007	Good one Chrsitine....and TOM, and everyone else!

05-21-2008, 02:20 PM	#2686
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 148 Gallery: Larcana	Dee, You sure have had a rough go of it. I hope you know that we do care about your well being even if we are curious. Know this each of us here has had our own journey. That's the glue that holds us together. Lauren

05-21-2008, 02:21 PM	#2687
DEEDLYNN Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 906 Gallery: DEEDLYNN	The final cap on the pics and the dates of weight loss. All 108 lbs was lost between June of 2007 and April 2008. It was a time that I had identified as KIMKINS. It was not Heidi's credit...it was a manipulated mess, of a flawed diet scam, that forced unhealthy and un-natural behaviors on me. Period end. (But...it was between June 2007 and April 2008-LOL-so ultimately...Heidi will get all the credit...for the damage that her scam has done to me...mentally).

05-21-2008, 02:22 PM	#2688
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 148 Gallery: Larcana	Good work! That CB always gives me the creeps! Lauren

05-21-2008, 02:23 PM	#2689
DEEDLYNN Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 906 Gallery: DEEDLYNN	Larcana--I'm banking on the glue part....betting everything on it...because thats the same type of glue that the support groups at the ..other site....had.

05-21-2008, 02:24 PM	#2690
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	CB = heidi = Gary...what's the dif? One is obviously as bad as the other...they both deserve (and SL) to get what they get good job all and a big thinks to Tom

05-21-2008, 02:29 PM	#2692
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Great sluthing!! Now...get out there and find the MCD hidden site or Heidi's porn site!!