Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17 - Page 72

HoneyBee2 · 05-19-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Um...Grans...Amy B is coughing...you know what that means?

You have a cold?...

v0xhumana · 05-19-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NancyElle

Good Lord, Dee.....I can give you some life drama...honey. This is nothing. Calm down, for your own sake. I don't know if you really mean this, or if you just want attention. If you mean it, you should really call someone. Seriously....

ITA.

Amyb1569 · 05-19-2008, 11:03 PM

Ha..No it means...um...cough cough..can I come for free food too?
Don't you know anything people?

malucas · 05-19-2008, 11:04 PM

Well the drama wages on and forward....

tiggerr · 05-19-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Ha..No it means...um...cough cough..can I come for free food too?
Don't you know anything people?

I got nothing.

Amyb1569 · 05-19-2008, 11:07 PM

Listen Tiggerr....
I have to listen to Cole ask me where Pooh is everytime he sees your avatar. Then we have to scroll the pages till we find you. So...be a nice bouncy thing and go fond pooh.

BTW where is pooh with the honey?

HoneyBee2 · 05-19-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Ha..No it means...um...cough cough..can I come for free food too?
Don't you know anything people?

Apparently, not...

Amyb1569 · 05-19-2008, 11:09 PM

okay..well in my mind it was clear..lmbo. Now that explains it all.
Maybe I still have KK fog...lol

cleochatra · 05-19-2008, 11:09 PM

I am so tired I could vomit.

I want to go to sleep, but my husband has major intestinal issues right now (I'm trying to be polite here). I don't even want to enter that half of the house. I'm sure I'm going to wake up in a puddle or carry shrapnel from a backwards blast.

Tooter · 05-19-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

I am so tired I could vomit.

I want to go to sleep, but my husband has major intestinal issues right now (I'm trying to be polite here). I don't even want to enter that half of the house. I'm sure I'm going to wake up in a puddle or carry shrapnel from a backwards blast.

*raising my hand* For the Record, "I" didn't start this.

Carry on.

Tanner · 05-19-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gran to angels

I agree with Amy....you bring humor here Jo! I love reading your posts! I didn't chat with Mayberry too much over there but I did love to read her posts too! Yes....you are more than ok here!! You bring a lot to the site!

I agree with you Gran & Amy - Jo's a hoot... Nice to see you here.

Amyb1569 · 05-19-2008, 11:12 PM

Tooter...
You did not start it..but you are not stopping it either...lol

v0xhumana · 05-19-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Listen Tiggerr....
I have to listen to Cole ask me where Pooh is everytime he sees your avatar. Then we have to scroll the pages till we find you. So...be a nice bouncy thing and go fond pooh.

BTW where is pooh with the honey?

LOL! My DD does the same thing!

Sherrie_lc · 05-19-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gran to angels

Hi Sherrie! I just love reading your posts! You are such a positive person….me too! Thank you for the good thoughts with my health….I’ve just begun but I know I will be ok!

Thank you Gran to Angels, I look forward to getting to know you better

Tooter · 05-19-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Tooter...
You did not start it..but you are not stopping it either...lol

v0xhumana · 05-19-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

I am so tired I could vomit.

I want to go to sleep, but my husband has major intestinal issues right now (I'm trying to be polite here). I don't even want to enter that half of the house. I'm sure I'm going to wake up in a puddle or carry shrapnel from a backwards blast.

This is the only post where I couldn't decide whether to say out loud "ew" or "ouch"!

WildAngel6 · 05-19-2008, 11:16 PM

Unfortunately, this is all part of the process that we have seen repeated many times before when folks emerge from Kimkins and start dealing with the things that happened to them while they were there and the damage that has been done to their hearts, souls and bodies.

There is shock and disbelief. There is a lot of fear to deal with. The fear of losing touch with friends; the fear of no longer having "support"; the fear of learning to eat properly again; the fear of trying to eat enough calories to sustain your body in a healthy manner; the fear of adding fat back into your WOE; the fear of the scale when it reveals a few pounds gained, and that sense of panic before it stabilizes. A general lack of feeling safe. An inability to trust anyone anymore. And there is anger. Anger because of being lied to; anger because of being banned; anger because of being separated from friends; anger because of being cut off from a support system.

Some of this is very similar to what one sees when someone tries to leave an abusive relationship, because for many people in Kimkins, that's what it really was. Being degraded for not attaining the perfection as established by the leader; being pushed into doing things that aren't healthy for you; being isolated from the outside world "for their own protection"; being told that you can not trust "the haters".

It is very hard to deal with the realization that the person you looked up to and trusted to keep you safe and to help you on your journey to weight loss is the very same one who told the lies and taught you to do things that are ultimately very dangerous for your body.

Contrary to what Heidi told you, there are plenty of places to be "safe" out here where people will try to help you repair the damage that has been done to your metabolism and your psyche. Many refugees are initially attracted to this "Fascination with Kimmer" thread because there are so many revelations to be found here. But once you get past the need for information and truth, and want to get back to tending to your body, there are plenty of other areas in LowCarbFriends and other forums like LCF, to help you learn how to eat properly; to help you find similar support to what you had at Kimkins where, unlike Kimkins, the support is coupled with information about healthy ways to lose weight.

Be patient with yourself and with your body. Don't expect that things will feel normal right away. Give yourself time to work through the broad spectrum of emotions. You will get through the shock of it all, and start to deal with things, and eventually be able to put everything into proper perspective.

We aren't "the haters" that we have been painted. We are here because we care. Some of us are former Kimkins members, now devoted to helping those just like us escape from the powerful grasp of Kimkins. Some of us are just plain folk who care about others and don't like to see anyone taken advantage of, or abused the way Heidi can abuse people who put their trust in her. This thread, in all seventeen of it's incarnations, stands as testament to the fact that we are in this fight for the duration.

So for all of you who are Kimkins refugees, we are happy that you are here with us. If you are reading this, but haven't left KK yet, we do hope you will continue to read here and understand that this thread is here FOR you; that all of us "ducks" are here to help YOU; and that we have no intention of stopping until it is safe for all the people like you. We'll keep picking flowers and pulling weeds until there isn't any Kimkins left.

HoneyBee2 · 05-19-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

I'm absolutely done defending myself. I have given my complete story to someone and I expect that it will all be out soon. Maybe it will answer all the questions. Maybe it won't. Quite honestly, I can't continue debating....[...]...Thanks for the understanding and compassion.

Dee- That is why I asked where you stood with the Kimkins WOE and the dangers associated with the diet itself.

I was under the impression you had shared your story with Jimmy Moore for an upcoming podcast and if someone is capable of doing that...Well, I would have thought they had decided where they stood on the Kimkins diet itself.

tiggerr · 05-19-2008, 11:20 PM

For the kidlets, tiggerr and Pooh. Hugging, see avatar.

v0xhumana · 05-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Aw! TOO CUTE!!!!

Amyb1569 · 05-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Thank Goodness.,
Cole will love it. He ask me today...where is tiggerr and Pooh today. We had to go search for a post by you.
Do you have piglet and Eeyore? lol

NancyElle · 05-19-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

I am so tired I could vomit.

I want to go to sleep, but my husband has major intestinal issues right now (I'm trying to be polite here). I don't even want to enter that half of the house. I'm sure I'm going to wake up in a puddle or carry shrapnel from a backwards blast.

Cleo...Cleo...Cleo...you're a caution, girl!

tiggerr · 05-19-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Thank Goodness.,
Cole will love it. He ask me today...where is tiggerr and Pooh today. We had to go search for a post by you.
Do you have piglet and Eeyore? lol

Nope, tigger and pooh only.

slickchick · 05-19-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr

For the kidlets, tiggerr and Pooh. Hugging, see avatar.

But now our kids will ask where tigger went!

tiggerr · 05-19-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slickchick

But now our kids will ask where tigger went!

Disneyland!

Grizzy · 05-19-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

I still need to know if we have established any of SL's alias's.

She had one here that I know of recently and was discovered but I am sorry I cannot recall what it was.

I am quite sure she was in on the sock puppets wasn't she? Did we establish that?

Let me search a bit and see if I can find it.

NancyElle · 05-19-2008, 11:40 PM

Interesting Read....Bolding and Emphasis, Mine Just good to remember in the face of all the drama.....

What is histrionic personality disorder?

Histrionic personality disorder is one of a group of conditions called dramatic personality disorders.

People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and distorted self-images.

For people with histrionic personality disorder, their self-esteem depends on the approval of others and does not arise from a true feeling of self-worth.

They have an overwhelming desire to be noticed, and often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention. The word histrionic means "dramatic or theatrical."

This disorder is more common in women than in men and usually is evident by early adulthood.

What are the symptoms of histrionic personality disorder?
In many cases, people with histrionic personality disorder have good social skills; however, they tend to use these skills to manipulate others so that they can be the center of attention.

A person with this disorder might also:

Be uncomfortable unless he or she is the center of attention
Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior
Shift emotions rapidly
Act very dramatically—as though performing before an audience—with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity
Be overly concerned with physical appearance
Constantly seek reassurance or approval
Be gullible and easily influenced by others
Be excessively sensitive to criticis

05-19-2008, 11:16 PM	#2147
WildAngel6 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cali Posts: 1,257 Gallery: WildAngel6 WOE: Atkins	Unfortunately, this is all part of the process that we have seen repeated many times before when folks emerge from Kimkins and start dealing with the things that happened to them while they were there and the damage that has been done to their hearts, souls and bodies. There is shock and disbelief. There is a lot of fear to deal with. The fear of losing touch with friends; the fear of no longer having "support"; the fear of learning to eat properly again; the fear of trying to eat enough calories to sustain your body in a healthy manner; the fear of adding fat back into your WOE; the fear of the scale when it reveals a few pounds gained, and that sense of panic before it stabilizes. A general lack of feeling safe. An inability to trust anyone anymore. And there is anger. Anger because of being lied to; anger because of being banned; anger because of being separated from friends; anger because of being cut off from a support system. Some of this is very similar to what one sees when someone tries to leave an abusive relationship, because for many people in Kimkins, that's what it really was. Being degraded for not attaining the perfection as established by the leader; being pushed into doing things that aren't healthy for you; being isolated from the outside world "for their own protection"; being told that you can not trust "the haters". It is very hard to deal with the realization that the person you looked up to and trusted to keep you safe and to help you on your journey to weight loss is the very same one who told the lies and taught you to do things that are ultimately very dangerous for your body. Contrary to what Heidi told you, there are plenty of places to be "safe" out here where people will try to help you repair the damage that has been done to your metabolism and your psyche. Many refugees are initially attracted to this "Fascination with Kimmer" thread because there are so many revelations to be found here. But once you get past the need for information and truth, and want to get back to tending to your body, there are plenty of other areas in LowCarbFriends and other forums like LCF, to help you learn how to eat properly; to help you find similar support to what you had at Kimkins where, unlike Kimkins, the support is coupled with information about healthy ways to lose weight. Be patient with yourself and with your body. Don't expect that things will feel normal right away. Give yourself time to work through the broad spectrum of emotions. You will get through the shock of it all, and start to deal with things, and eventually be able to put everything into proper perspective. We aren't "the haters" that we have been painted. We are here because we care. Some of us are former Kimkins members, now devoted to helping those just like us escape from the powerful grasp of Kimkins. Some of us are just plain folk who care about others and don't like to see anyone taken advantage of, or abused the way Heidi can abuse people who put their trust in her. This thread, in all seventeen of it's incarnations, stands as testament to the fact that we are in this fight for the duration. So for all of you who are Kimkins refugees, we are happy that you are here with us. If you are reading this, but haven't left KK yet, we do hope you will continue to read here and understand that this thread is here FOR you; that all of us "ducks" are here to help YOU; and that we have no intention of stopping until it is safe for all the people like you. We'll keep picking flowers and pulling weeds until there isn't any Kimkins left. __________________ Laura ~ aka Amy or Ducky! Nominated for Best Quote of the Year: "Is it too late to take that back?" --The Kimmer!! Calling San Diego County Residents! We Need You! Help Spread The Word: Say NO To Kimkins! Got Blog? Join the Ring! WildAngel6 Daily Links <~ how can you help? Check here!

05-19-2008, 11:03 PM	#2133
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 822 Gallery: Amyb1569	Ha..No it means...um...cough cough..can I come for free food too? Don't you know anything people?

05-19-2008, 11:04 PM	#2134
malucas Junior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 41 Gallery: malucas	Well the drama wages on and forward....

05-19-2008, 11:07 PM	#2136
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 822 Gallery: Amyb1569	Listen Tiggerr.... I have to listen to Cole ask me where Pooh is everytime he sees your avatar. Then we have to scroll the pages till we find you. So...be a nice bouncy thing and go fond pooh. BTW where is pooh with the honey?

05-19-2008, 11:09 PM	#2138
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 822 Gallery: Amyb1569	okay..well in my mind it was clear..lmbo. Now that explains it all. Maybe I still have KK fog...lol

05-19-2008, 11:09 PM	#2139
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,885 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	I am so tired I could vomit. I want to go to sleep, but my husband has major intestinal issues right now (I'm trying to be polite here). I don't even want to enter that half of the house. I'm sure I'm going to wake up in a puddle or carry shrapnel from a backwards blast.

05-19-2008, 11:12 PM	#2142
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 822 Gallery: Amyb1569	Tooter... You did not start it..but you are not stopping it either...lol

05-19-2008, 11:20 PM	#2149
tiggerr Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dutch transplant in La-la-land aka as California Posts: 15,349 Gallery: tiggerr Stats: Two Half Marathons down, one to go WOE: Back on the LC track. Start Date: May,2003	For the kidlets, tiggerr and Pooh. Hugging, see avatar.

05-19-2008, 11:22 PM	#2150
v0xhumana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 304 Gallery: v0xhumana	Aw! TOO CUTE!!!!

05-19-2008, 11:22 PM	#2151
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 822 Gallery: Amyb1569	Thank Goodness., Cole will love it. He ask me today...where is tiggerr and Pooh today. We had to go search for a post by you. Do you have piglet and Eeyore? lol