Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17

[Carly07]

yes the one in the commercials.. it rhyms with Wallop!!!! Which I might do if I hear the D word..

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Carly07

yes the one in the commercials.. it rhyms with Wallop!!!! Which I might do if I hear the D word..

I won't say it, but you gave me an "Ear Worm" and that dang song is stuck in my head now.

[Carly07]

Tooter.. every time I read your name I get an ear worm and hear.. Toot toot..

I am nuts

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Carly07

Tooter.. every time I read your name I get an ear worm and hear.. Toot toot..

I am nuts

[Nady]

Originally Posted by Carly07

yes the one in the commercials.. it rhyms with Wallop!!!! Which I might do if I hear the D word..

Have to be honest~ when it comes to sour cream, I use a wallop~ gotta smack that food down real good!


~~~N

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by Carly07

I added some roast beef to my menu for the day.. 4 oz of RED MEAT. god it was good

Carly, beef is a really good idea, very important for iron plus various other nutrients that you will be lacking. I would add some low carb veggies and butter to the mix as well

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by Tooter

Is it the word in their commercials? Hey, I didn't SAY it!

I'm thinking it, too, Tooter, and it's a good thing I'm off to bed. I don't how long I could behave here ...

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

When you eat less than 1200 calories a day your metabolism shuts itself off. Any weight you do lose is minerals and vitamins your body needs to function normally. There is no multi-vitamin pill that can replace the nutrients you get from food.

My average per day was between 800-1,100 calories! I lost my muscle mass. I have an eating disorder because my binging/purging ways were becoming a nightmare that lasted for months.

1200 is not accurate most have BMR's higher then that...

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I'm thinking it, too, Tooter, and it's a good thing I'm off to bed. I don't how long I could behave here ...

*giggle* Good Night, Mom.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Nady

Have to be honest~ when it comes to sour cream, I use a wallop~ gotta smack that food down real good!


~~~N

Now I'm hearing the "Ear Worm" song with "Wallop" instead of the "D" word.

[wackytobeme]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

next round of emails....(do you guys really care about this? )

*snip*
Kimmer <webmaster@kimkins.com> wrote:

Dee, I'm at a total loss here. What are you so mad about? What birthday challenge was I silent about? Now I'm lying about being proud of you? Are you serious? LOOK AT YOU.

Do you think you're the only person who told me you had given up hope of being able to lose weight -- until you read the Woman's World article? Do you think I had never been told that before the magazine came out? I helped people for free for 8 years. Why do you think Kimkins became popular? Because it's simple, it works and gave some people hope for the first time.

Dee, listen to yourself. Now you think I'm baiting you with trick emails? Wow.

Okay, 8 YEARS... is there not 1 (ONE, UNO, etc) person who benefited from her help and maintained long tern that is willing to stand up and defend her???? I mean seriously, if it were true where is the evidence?
If it were true wouldn't there be at least 1 person willing to take the heat out of appreciations to Kimmer for the help.
Just sayin'

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by eske

anipomoni, where was your doc in Florida - who was it?

Sorry for OT but eske can't get pm's yet. It's Dr Woliner (Holistic Family Medicine) in Boca Raton. I drove from Orlando to take the chance with him. Downsides: very expensive and horrendous office staff (like really incompetent). But his knowledge makes up for it.

[DEEDLYNN]

Originally Posted by Sherrie_lc

Dee first off I am being sincere here and not attacking.

You could have easily done that by just keeping your head down. You would never have got away with it whilst posting in this thread, even though Heidi took so long to ban you, imo I am 100% certain she was keeping a very close eye on you. I do understand where you were coming from in some ways e.g. feeling attacked, but at the same time don't blame people within this thread... as you say "personal responsibility" and all that. Also, I hope your references to forcing your hand was not towards my comments regarding what your lie is. You could have simply kept it to yourself until it was time.

No Sherri...
I think I already explained that the start of the snowball that forced me to show my hand was when I-- when I posted the first PM this morning. That is where ...I....should have handled it differently.

[DEEDLYNN]

Originally Posted by DonnaD

Ok, I haven't been here since the start of the KK controversy in august o8 and was happy to see my account still active. Actually, I think I was registered on this site prior to my kk's experience.

Dee, I know your here. So good to see you and carly. Love you guys.

So again, just as in August I'm here with all my doubts again. That should tell me something right there. I came here to LCF and everyone was welcoming and open with how they feel and generous with what they know. But I was on overload then and just couldn't deal with it all and just backed away from KK and LCF and dieting completely. That cost me 30 lbs ...

Now with a wedding coming up in August, I was once again desperate. So kk worked before and worked fast, and though the hairloss scared me and the nutritionist warned me, I still went back. (come on, many of us have been there) But now this has thrown me for a loop. I'm not surprised, just confused. I know, I know, what's the confusion. I don't know all the dirty crap that went on. I just know there were lies and deceptions and people were hurt and that sucks. But I made good friends and found support. So I put the crap behind me and jumped back in 3 weeks ago and now I feel ....well...I don't know exactly how I feel, but it's not a good feeling.

DonnaD

Donna, good to see you. Heard that I shocked a lot of people....sorry. Didn't mean for it to all "go down" as it did....but it did.

Glad to see you.

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

Carly has to eat 600 calories a day while Hidey eats sugar cookies?

Eww are they what you guys mean by sugar cookies? they don't even look appetising!!!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Sherrie_lc

Eww are they what you guys mean by sugar cookies? they don't even look appetising!!!

More appetizing then a Vegemite sandwich. I'm just Say'n...

[NancyElle]

Originally Posted by Tooter

More appetizing then a Vegemite sandwich. I'm just Say'n...

Do ya come from the land down under?

Isn't that a song???


Sherrielc probably knows!

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by DonnaD

Ok, I haven't been here since the start of the KK controversy in august o8 and was happy to see my account still active. Actually, I think I was registered on this site prior to my kk's experience.

Dee, I know your here. So good to see you and carly. Love you guys.

So again, just as in August I'm here with all my doubts again. That should tell me something right there. I came here to LCF and everyone was welcoming and open with how they feel and generous with what they know. But I was on overload then and just couldn't deal with it all and just backed away from KK and LCF and dieting completely. That cost me 30 lbs ...

Now with a wedding coming up in August, I was once again desperate. So kk worked before and worked fast, and though the hairloss scared me and the nutritionist warned me, I still went back. (come on, many of us have been there) But now this has thrown me for a loop. I'm not surprised, just confused. I know, I know, what's the confusion. I don't know all the dirty crap that went on. I just know there were lies and deceptions and people were hurt and that sucks. But I made good friends and found support. So I put the crap behind me and jumped back in 3 weeks ago and now I feel ....well...I don't know exactly how I feel, but it's not a good feeling.

DonnaD

Hey Donna what made you move to kimkins the first time? probs with low carb?

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by NancyElle

Do ya come from the land down under?

Isn't that a song???


Sherrielc probably knows!

Now I have another "Ear Worm" and also a visual of that lead singer with those eyes that go off in different directions.

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

No Sherri...
I think I already explained that the start of the snowball that forced me to show my hand was when I-- when I posted the first PM this morning. That is where ...I....should have handled it differently.

No worries Dee I was still catching up so hadn't got to that post yet

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by Tooter

More appetizing then a Vegemite sandwich. I'm just Say'n...

MM I'm not much of a bread fan but hmm I think I'd prefer the sandwhich

[Tooter]

Myths and Truths About Nutrition

Myths & Truths About Nutrition

Myth: Heart disease in America is caused by consumption of cholesterol and saturated fat from animal products.

Truth: During the period of rapid increase in heart disease (1920-1960), American consumption of animal fats declined but consumption of hydrogenated and industrially processed vegetable fats increased dramatically. (USDA-HNI)

Myth: Saturated fat clogs arteries.

Truth: The fatty acids found in artery clogs are mostly unsaturated (74%) of which 41% are polyunsaturated. (Lancet 1994 344:1195)

Myth: Vegetarianism is healthy.

Truth: The annual all-cause death rate of vegetarian men is slightly more than that of non-vegetarian men (.93% vs .89%); the annual death rate of vegetarian women is significantly more than that of non-vegetarian women (.86% vs .54%) (Am J Clin Nutr 1982 36:873)

Myth: Vitamin B12 can be obtained from certain plant sources such as blue-green algae and soy products.

Truth: Vitamin B12 is not absorbed from plant sources. Modern soy products increase the body's need for B12. (Soybeans: Chemistry & Technology Vol 1 1972)

Myth: For good health, serum cholesterol should be less than 180 mg/dl.

Truth: The all-cause death rate is higher in individuals with cholesterol levels lower than 180 mg/dl. (Circulation 1992 86:3:1026-1029)

Myth: Animal fats cause cancer and heart disease.

Truth: Animal fats contain many nutrients that protect against cancer and heart disease; elevated rates of cancer and heart disease are associated with consumption of large amounts of vegetable oils. (Fed Proc July 1978 37:2215)

Myth: Children benefit from a low-fat diet.

Truth: Children on low-fat diets suffer from growth problems, failure to thrive & learning disabilities. (Food Chem News 10/3/94)

Myth: A low-fat diet will make you "feel better . . . and increase your joy of living."

Truth: Low-fat diets are associated with increased rates of depression, psychological problems, fatigue, violence and suicide. (Lancet 3/21/92 v339)

Myth: To avoid heart disease, we should use margarine instead of butter.

Truth: Margarine eaters have twice the rate of heart disease as butter eaters. (Nutrition Week 3/22/91 21:12)

Myth: Americans do not consume enough essential fatty acids.

Truth: Americans consume far too much of one kind of EFA (omega-6 EFAs found in most polyunsaturated vegetable oils) but not enough of another kind of EFA (omega-3 EFAs found in fish, fish oils, eggs from properly fed chickens, dark green vegetables and herbs, and oils from certain seeds such as flax and chia, nuts such as walnuts and in small amounts in all whole grains.) (Am J Clin Nutr 1991 54:438-63)

Myth: A vegetarian diet will protect you against atherosclerosis.

Truth: The International Atherosclerosis Project found that vegetarians had just as much atherosclerosis as meat eaters. (Lab Invest 1968 18:498)

Myth: Low-fat diets prevent breast cancer.

Truth: A recent study found that women on very low-fat diets (less than 20%) had the same rate of breast cancer as women who consumed large amounts of fat. (NEJM 2/8/96)

Myth: The "cave man diet" was low in fat.

Truth: Throughout the world, primitive peoples sought out and consumed fat from fish and shellfish, water fowl, sea mammals, land birds, insects, reptiles, rodents, bears, dogs, pigs, cattle, sheep, goats, game, eggs, nuts and milk products. (Abrams, Food & Evolution 1987)

Myth: Coconut oil causes heart disease.

Truth: When coconut oil was fed as 7% of energy to patients recovering from heart attacks, the patients had greater improvement compared to untreated controls, and no difference compared to patents treated with corn or safflower oils. Populations that consume coconut oil have low rates of heart disease. Coconut oil may also be one of the most useful oils to prevent heart disease because of its antiviral and antimicrobial characteristics. (JAMA 1967 202:1119-1123; Am J Clin Nutr 1981 34:1552)

Myth: Saturated fats inhibit production of anti-inflammatory prostaglandins.

Truth: Saturated fats actually improve the production of all prostaglandins by facilitating the conversion of essential fatty acids. (Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation Journal 20:3)

Myth: Arachidonic acid in foods like liver, butter and egg yolks causes production of "bad" inflammatory prostaglandins.

Truth: Series 2 prostaglandins that the body makes from arachidonic acid both encourage and inhibit inflammation under appropriate circumstances. Arachidonic acid is vital for the function of the brain and nervous system. (Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation Journal 20:3)

Myth: Beef causes colon cancer

Truth: Argentina, with higher beef consumption, has lower rates of colon cancer than the US. Mormons have lower rates of colon cancer than vegetarian Seventh Day Adventists (Cancer Res 35:3513 1975)

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by NancyElle

Do ya come from the land down under?

Isn't that a song???


Sherrielc probably knows!

"Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover."

[Sherrie_lc]