Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17 - Page 40

Larcana · 05-16-2008, 06:53 AM

Terry,

Argh...Hashimotos is a whole different animal. You get an autoimmune thyroiditis. There are antibodies to two thyroid entities.
Please don't blame yourself!!!
And please everyone, we can all use a hug now and then. It's so easy to blame ourselves for just about everying that happens. It's difficult to determine who will actually develope full blown thyroid malfunction.
Some people starve and recover, others don't. I believe this a deeper chemical connection.
My thoughts are that Human Leukocyte antigens play a big role. These chemicals are inherited markers on our white cells. This is how I got celiac Disease. I have HLA D markers that give me the risk.

Lauren

Sherrie_lc · 05-16-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

only problem with that book is it is based on high carb diet.

Low carbers do not need insulin levels to fall because we don't spike our insulin with a big sugar rush at meal time so we have fat metabolism going 24/7

so we can eat those small meals more frequently if that is the way we want to go or we can do 3 big meals.

Kat just let me know I get folk telling me to speak english all the time when I get excited about science stuff.

Same argument with exercising on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, always baffles me in the context of a low carb diet...

Katinsac · 05-16-2008, 06:54 AM

I'm one of them that never goes to the doctor unless I'm dying or in so much pain I cannot stand it anymore...how do you know if you have matabolism or thyroid problems....I'm sure I've done some damage doing KK. Just don't want to go to the doctor and admit it, lol.

Tooter · 05-16-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

I agree, just to be on the safe side, save your journals, Dee & Carly, if they're important to you. I know it sounds crazy but too many people have been banned for doing exactly what you two are doing. Simply for coming here and posting in these threads. Heidi Diaz might be more careful now with the ban button but I would sure err on the side of caution if I were you.

ETA: Oh, another thing I did when I knew I was probably going to get banned was to exchange e-mail addresses with those I wanted to be able to stay in contact with. I was really glad I had done that when the time came.

GMTA!! I added the same thing to my post!

Katinsac · 05-16-2008, 06:55 AM

Sydney...love the rose avi...very pretty

Carly07 · 05-16-2008, 06:58 AM

The DEED is done.

Carly likes talking in code.

Carly feels like a moron talking this way.

Larcana · 05-16-2008, 07:00 AM

2big,
Of course you're right they base the advice on high carb "normal" diets. I have been reading on refeeding and carb cycling for weight training. I need some muscle to get my metabolism back to normal.
I try to not eat dinner too late...I tend to not sleep well and gain weight easily if I don't get enough sleep.
But the point of this thread is to enlighten folks about how they were lied to about lowcarb eating and the need to educate ourselves. It's a constant effort to keep up with new studies.
Lauren

Katinsac · 05-16-2008, 07:00 AM

Sydney...can't even tell that is the same guy in the rock version...pretty cool. I didn't know that about him. I like him but not a big follower...hope you run into him on the street when you visit your friend.

Sorry...back on topic....yes, Dee....exchange email addy's...my group and I did it right away before we were all banned. Some were banned and didn't even do anything or say anything, some still have accounts but never go there. Me, I remined her of Cutie (sorry Cutie, lol) so she banned me pretty quick. As people have said, you PMs are not private either. Trust me, I know for a fact, I have a PM from Heidi that she quotes one of my PMs back to me and someone else. They do read them and they do ban people for them just like they ban people for just visiting this thread. Best of luck to you and Carly.

Magicsmom · 05-16-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Carly.....I'd be very grateful if you could copy it to CD for me. SMOOCHES & Thank you.

As far as Garth Brooks....does he really make a good arguement regarding the talking in 3rd person. Didn't he come out under a different name or something like that at one point. At a point when he made it big. (Am I making this up or did it really happen).

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Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Yes he did...it was Chris Gaines...His rock & roll alter ego.

As shown in the photos posted, Chris Gaines looks like he's on crack or something. Never cared for it.

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Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

yes and no
you are to blame if that is the word for aggravating your low T3 levels with your poor dietary choices, but Hashimoto is an autoimmune illness and high carb never dieted in their life folk have it too. Our bodies are destroying our thyroid gland which will effect the level of thyroid hormone we produce as time goes on.

then if somebody who has it doesn't eat or eats foods that interfere with production and/or conversion it makes out hypothyroidism worse but doesn't always cause our hasimoto's to flare up more. it is like any autoimmune disease science hasn't discovered the on off switch for it yet.

Whew! I knew Hashimoto's is an autoimmune disorder, so I couldn't figure out the connection between it and starvation dieting. It's one of several autoimmune problems I have.

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

I never understood the 3-4 hours between meals with no snacks. You eat at 6 a.m., then again at 10 a.m. and again at 2 p.m......4 hours apart....what happens between 2 p.m. and 10 p.m. bed time? I always though you ate at least 5 hours apart or like you have been doing, Terry, 4-6 small meals a day.

Actually, I only eat three times a day - breakfast at 8 (used to be 7 before someone told me to wait an hour after taking my thyroid meds), lunch at 1, and dinner around 7. In bed between 9 - 11.

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Originally Posted by Larcana

Terry,

Argh...Hashimotos is a whole different animal. You get an autoimmune thyroiditis. There are antibodies to two thyroid entities.
Please don't blame yourself!!!
And please everyone, we can all use a hug now and then. It's so easy to blame ourselves for just about everying that happens. It's difficult to determine who will actually develope full blown thyroid malfunction.
Some people starve and recover, others don't. I believe this a deeper chemical connection.
My thoughts are that Human Leukocyte antigens play a big role. These chemicals are inherited markers on our white cells. This is how I got celiac Disease. I have HLA D markers that give me the risk.

Lauren

Thanks Lauren.

Mayberryfan · 05-16-2008, 07:01 AM

2big & Larcana ~ LOVE the ongoing healthy discussions! You're answering some questions I've had. Keep it up, girls!

And for you 3rd person talkers ~ you're reminding me of the Seinfeld ep where Elaine wants to meet a guy at the gym so she starts talking to his friend who says "Jimmy likes Elaine...Jimmy thinks he and Elaine should get together..." Elaine thinks she's making a date with the other guy and finds out the guy she was talking to was Jimmy! Good stuff.

Carly! Join in, listen, learn, whatever you like. Glad you're here. Oh and Dee, burning a CD is super easy. Roxio makes a burning program thats super simple to use. Or just play around with the one that's already on your computer. You'll get the hang of it.

Magicsmom · 05-16-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Carly07

The DEED is done.

Carly likes talking in code.

Carly feels like a moron talking this way.

Magicsmom · 05-16-2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

And for you 3rd person talkers ~ you're reminding me of the Seinfeld ep where Elaine wants to meet a guy at the gym so she starts talking to his friend who says "Jimmy likes Elaine...Jimmy thinks he and Elaine should get together..." Elaine thinks she's making a date with the other guy and finds out the guy she was talking to was Jimmy! Good stuff.

I was thinking that very same thing earlier this morning! Somehow, between my bedroom and the family room, that thought flew out of my brain.

ETA: the really fun part came when Elaine found out that the guy she was interested in wasn't her "type".

Carly07 · 05-16-2008, 07:07 AM

Question.. were you ladies only able to copy the text? Cause this is done but ugly.

DEEDLYNN · 05-16-2008, 07:07 AM

Carly....Dee would like to say THANK YOU...and SMOOCHES!!!

MomToEli · 05-16-2008, 07:08 AM

OMG - way off topic alert here ...

I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat)

It is going to sit there until my dh gets home many hours from now

I couldn't chase it oustide without the cat following it, and he's an indoor only kitty!

The cat would grab it, carry it around, then let it loose so they could "play". I don't think I will have to worry about mice this fall (that's why we got the kitty in the first place).

My dh's priorities for the evening just got changed from whatever they were - find the hole!

Did I say

Carly07 · 05-16-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MomToEli

OMG - way off topic alert here ...

I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat)

It is going to sit there until my dh gets home many hours from now

I couldn't chase it oustide without the cat following it, and he's an indoor only kitty!

The cat would grab it, carry it around, then let it loose so they could "play". I don't think I will have to worry about mice this fall (that's why we got the kitty in the first place).

My dh's priorities for the evening just got changed from whatever they were - find the hole!

Did I say

OMG.. funny. What is it with squirrels this year.. another of my friends had one JUMP ON HER outside while she was saving it from her cat..
Thanks for the visual though.. needed it today.

Carly07 · 05-16-2008, 07:16 AM

Oh.. and luckily I don't journal therefore no need to c and p my own.. however I will just keep Dee's cause more than once I had to say at the end of her journal post.. "Yea what she said" Dee and Carly are in sync.. in tune.. and sometimes it seems we harmonizes.

rebel · 05-16-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Carly07

Question.. were you ladies only able to copy the text? Cause this is done but ugly.

Carly! I copied Deni's for her (although Heidi did let her back in to get it in the meantime), and I think it had everything including her signature. I'll have to try to remember how I did it and let you know.

Magicsmom · 05-16-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MomToEli

OMG - way off topic alert here ...

I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat)

It is going to sit there until my dh gets home many hours from now

I couldn't chase it oustide without the cat following it, and he's an indoor only kitty!

The cat would grab it, carry it around, then let it loose so they could "play". I don't think I will have to worry about mice this fall (that's why we got the kitty in the first place).

My dh's priorities for the evening just got changed from whatever they were - find the hole!

Did I say

That's one tough indoor kitty! Mine would do the same thing. He likes to "play" with bugs and gets very upset when I kill them.

rebel · 05-16-2008, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomToEli

OMG - way off topic alert here ...

I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat)

It is going to sit there until my dh gets home many hours from now

I couldn't chase it oustide without the cat following it, and he's an indoor only kitty!

The cat would grab it, carry it around, then let it loose so they could "play". I don't think I will have to worry about mice this fall (that's why we got the kitty in the first place).

My dh's priorities for the evening just got changed from whatever they were - find the hole!

Did I say

Mom - I'm an animal lover, so I was letting the squirrels have their fun until they ate my porch swing down to the chains! After that, it was all out war.

Katinsac · 05-16-2008, 07:20 AM

When I did AmyB's, I C and P'd into a Word Doc...got everything. Now all she has to do is clean it up, lol. Graphics really slow it up.

Carly07 · 05-16-2008, 07:20 AM

Well let's put it this way.. I put it in word.. Dee if you are happy to just have the verbiage and nothing pretty like pictures then I can just email this to you vs sending it to you snail mail with a CD. All 300 some odd pages of it.

Dee?

Magicsmom · 05-16-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Carly07

Question.. were you ladies only able to copy the text? Cause this is done but ugly.

Dee can tell you whether or not it's the text that matters, or the prettiness. If she wants pretty, you can do screen shots. Hit CTRL-PrtSc(print screen) and you can save it in Paint by pressing CTRL-V. Those files do take up space, though, and as Kat said, they slow things down a lot, so you would need to burn them to the CD so you can purge your hard drive. HTH!

Amyb1569 · 05-16-2008, 07:22 AM

Kat...
Ummm..did you not clean it up for me? Darn...what did I pay you for..opps..I did not pay you..haha.
Big thank You for doing that..I sure did talk a lot over there. When I read through it last night real quick..it made me kind of sad. I miss those days..just not the place. Oh well..this too shall pass.

This time · 05-16-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomToEli

OMG - way off topic alert here ...

I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat)

It is going

05-16-2008, 06:55 AM	#1175
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Sydney...love the rose avi...very pretty Last edited by Katinsac : 05-16-2008 at 06:57 AM.

05-16-2008, 07:00 AM	#1178
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Sydney...can't even tell that is the same guy in the rock version...pretty cool. I didn't know that about him. I like him but not a big follower...hope you run into him on the street when you visit your friend. Sorry...back on topic....yes, Dee....exchange email addy's...my group and I did it right away before we were all banned. Some were banned and didn't even do anything or say anything, some still have accounts but never go there. Me, I remined her of Cutie (sorry Cutie, lol) so she banned me pretty quick. As people have said, you PMs are not private either. Trust me, I know for a fact, I have a PM from Heidi that she quotes one of my PMs back to me and someone else. They do read them and they do ban people for them just like they ban people for just visiting this thread. Best of luck to you and Carly. __________________ Kat "Once you go quack, you never go back!" ~Dottie "Is it too late to take that back?" The Kimmer!! Kimkins Join The Lawsuit Against Kimkins

05-16-2008, 07:01 AM	#1180
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,384 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	2big & Larcana ~ LOVE the ongoing healthy discussions! You're answering some questions I've had. Keep it up, girls! And for you 3rd person talkers ~ you're reminding me of the Seinfeld ep where Elaine wants to meet a guy at the gym so she starts talking to his friend who says "Jimmy likes Elaine...Jimmy thinks he and Elaine should get together..." Elaine thinks she's making a date with the other guy and finds out the guy she was talking to was Jimmy! Good stuff. Carly! Join in, listen, learn, whatever you like. Glad you're here. Oh and Dee, burning a CD is super easy. Roxio makes a burning program thats super simple to use. Or just play around with the one that's already on your computer. You'll get the hang of it. __________________ _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson .......... http://mayberryfan.blogspot.com/

05-16-2008, 07:08 AM	#1185
MomToEli MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: On The Road Again ... Posts: 1,061 Gallery: MomToEli Stats: 220/210.5/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Recently	OMG - way off topic alert here ... I just chased a ground squirrel around my house - I should say a ground squirrel and my cat! It is now trapped in an upside down box, with a heavy box on top, and a heavy box on three sides, backed up against the flagstone wall of my kitchen! (the ground squirrel, not the cat) It is going to sit there until my dh gets home many hours from now I couldn't chase it oustide without the cat following it, and he's an indoor only kitty! The cat would grab it, carry it around, then let it loose so they could "play". I don't think I will have to worry about mice this fall (that's why we got the kitty in the first place). My dh's priorities for the evening just got changed from whatever they were - find the hole! Did I say __________________ ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.’ (Edmund Burke)

05-16-2008, 06:53 AM	#1171
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 145 Gallery: Larcana	Terry, Argh...Hashimotos is a whole different animal. You get an autoimmune thyroiditis. There are antibodies to two thyroid entities. Please don't blame yourself!!! And please everyone, we can all use a hug now and then. It's so easy to blame ourselves for just about everying that happens. It's difficult to determine who will actually develope full blown thyroid malfunction. Some people starve and recover, others don't. I believe this a deeper chemical connection. My thoughts are that Human Leukocyte antigens play a big role. These chemicals are inherited markers on our white cells. This is how I got celiac Disease. I have HLA D markers that give me the risk. Lauren

05-16-2008, 06:54 AM	#1173
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	I'm one of them that never goes to the doctor unless I'm dying or in so much pain I cannot stand it anymore...how do you know if you have matabolism or thyroid problems....I'm sure I've done some damage doing KK. Just don't want to go to the doctor and admit it, lol.

05-16-2008, 06:58 AM	#1176
Carly07 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 178 Gallery: Carly07	The DEED is done. Carly likes talking in code. Carly feels like a moron talking this way.

05-16-2008, 07:00 AM	#1177
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 145 Gallery: Larcana	2big, Of course you're right they base the advice on high carb "normal" diets. I have been reading on refeeding and carb cycling for weight training. I need some muscle to get my metabolism back to normal. I try to not eat dinner too late...I tend to not sleep well and gain weight easily if I don't get enough sleep. But the point of this thread is to enlighten folks about how they were lied to about lowcarb eating and the need to educate ourselves. It's a constant effort to keep up with new studies. Lauren

05-16-2008, 07:07 AM	#1183
Carly07 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 178 Gallery: Carly07	Question.. were you ladies only able to copy the text? Cause this is done but ugly.

05-16-2008, 07:07 AM	#1184
DEEDLYNN Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 675 Gallery: DEEDLYNN	Carly....Dee would like to say THANK YOU...and SMOOCHES!!!

05-16-2008, 07:16 AM	#1187
Carly07 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 178 Gallery: Carly07	Oh.. and luckily I don't journal therefore no need to c and p my own.. however I will just keep Dee's cause more than once I had to say at the end of her journal post.. "Yea what she said" Dee and Carly are in sync.. in tune.. and sometimes it seems we harmonizes.

05-16-2008, 07:20 AM	#1191
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	When I did AmyB's, I C and P'd into a Word Doc...got everything. Now all she has to do is clean it up, lol. Graphics really slow it up.

05-16-2008, 07:20 AM	#1192
Carly07 Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 178 Gallery: Carly07	Well let's put it this way.. I put it in word.. Dee if you are happy to just have the verbiage and nothing pretty like pictures then I can just email this to you vs sending it to you snail mail with a CD. All 300 some odd pages of it. Dee?

05-16-2008, 07:22 AM	#1194
Amyb1569 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 625 Gallery: Amyb1569	Kat... Ummm..did you not clean it up for me? Darn...what did I pay you for..opps..I did not pay you..haha. Big thank You for doing that..I sure did talk a lot over there. When I read through it last night real quick..it made me kind of sad. I miss those days..just not the place. Oh well..this too shall pass.