Why the fascination with Kimmer? #17

[Awakened]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Deni---thanks...I appreciate it. And, since you are here....as with Christin, I owe you an apology as well. I'm sorry about the misjudgements that I have placed with regards to you and some of the others.

I realize that my judgements were based on perceptions from my experience with things and that the perceptions were right in this case. Just wanted to say I'm sorry.

Thanks again.
Dee

I appreciate the apology... however it wasn't necessary. Any "perceptions" you had about me that were false were fed to you by someone who would probably never have the conscience or ability to apologize for what she's done to me.
I have learned alot in this mess, and the first thing I had to learn was that people make judgements based on what they know... and unless they talk to me and get to know me... I can't take their judgements of me personally. (It's late.. am I making any sense??)
You didn't judge "me".. you judged a picture Heidi/Kimkins painted of me. I'm assuming she isn't a very good artist.

[golite]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

Good catch!

[wifezilla]

Tippy? Is that You?

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by LINC

No, I don't. But, nobody here seems to be concerned with Dee donating hers. As a matter of fact, it seems to be a requirement in order for her to be taken seriously. I'm still on the fence (not the bench) about whether or not she's for real, but ultimatums aren't going to encourage anyone from KK to come here looking for help or information.

Lou

I have to disagree with you on that as Dee was untouchable being on the front page and the current newsletter success story. She has a documented ED so it would be natural for her with the following inside Kimkins.con she has told us about to post to a newbie with an ED and or PM them with info about EDs. Even if it is a kimmer trap Dee falling for it should not have raised a suspecion given the facts Dee has given us.

you really believe Kimmer in light of the banning of life time members being part of the lawsuit would ban her front page person and newsletter success story with a following inside the kimpire for passing that info along?

nobody gave anybody an ultimatum do it or else anywhere.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

She is channeling TT?

[DEEDLYNN]

Deni---thank you...that was a very gracious acceptance...I appreciate it...but I am accountable for my words....the artist may have needed a few art lessons...LOL.

[Amyb1569]

Never Mind...

[DEEDLYNN]

ani and golite---yes...she is not a nutrtionalist...there is a big difference between an eating disorders psychologis and a dietician/nutritionalist. A very big difference. Many times they work together in the same office. Dr. McFarland does not have a nutritionalist in her office and I don't feel the need to see one anyway. So...no need for eyerolls...I'm seeing her for my mental issues with food...not to analyze my food consuption and choices.

[This time]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Thistime...would you like me to Ashley scan my appointment card from her business card. Perhaps the letter that she wrote on my behalf when I needed to. I don't know if I can find somewhere to scan & post....maybe Kinkos...but it seems that nothing I say will ever satisfy anyone out here.

Really, if my conscious would let me...it'd be a lot easier to go back where at least folks don't question the bling on my myspace or the doctors appointments I have....

No need to get upset, everything i say is not carved in stone, just thinking out loud and your not the only one who was questioned here, don't forget
this is a healing and questioning thread also. No harm was meant.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

Reminds me why I had so much respect for KajunDC and Julia. Great responses by them, and we all know it was not easy to stand up to Kimmer back then. She had such a following and such success () that it was hard to argue with her.

ETA: People you have to read the rest of that thread!

Heidi at her best snarkiness. What a piece of work!

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

Patti needs a good slap.

I hope she reads here and I hope she and all her pals now know what a nasty self absorbed.... well, I don't normally use the word that comes to mind but... she comes across as.

Wow. Just. wow.

Did Patti respond on Medusa's blog? I missed it.

Originally Posted by Sherrie_lc

Hey I must have missed that, Did Brandon actually say that during his deposition?

Like most here, I've always thought that, but good to see it confirmed by her own son that as far as I know, is currently living with her and in an awkward position to say the least

I thought Brandon's deposition was cancelled.

Originally Posted by malucas

Hi Everyone. I am Mal. I was banned from Kimkins when I was doing some cancer testing in January and had no clue why I couldn't get on. I was horrified when a friend sent me medusas blog that someone named shiphips said I was a mole. This woman sent out to slander me but couldn't tell if I was male/female. My point being is that I remember when DeeDlynn first came back to KK she and I were on some of the same threads, I would like her to know that it isn't about whether or not you are doing the plan or not, it is about flying under her radar and if she has you as a model means she has you in her hip pocket. She is keeping her enemies very close to her. Be careful. You are in danger of being banned or worse yet brought into her lawsuit. You might actually be called to be a hostile witness for the defense. These people here are trying to smarten you up D and you really need to listen. You might never had the effects that some others have had to endure, but someone like me that has never known about lo-carbing and being told that this is the Great Fix-All really got screwed. I have nothing to gain by telling you this and absolutly nothing to lose by telling the truth. I am glad my eyes were opened and that these women here are great allies. If indeed CB is Heidi, I've got one thing to say to you my dear. Come and find out who I am cause I am waiting at your door-step..

Glad you're here.

Originally Posted by SMP

Nope. Deliberate.

I figured that was deliberate with your sense of humor being what it is.

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

I have to base this on everything I've read and watched since I came to low carb friends in January. I even read through the ask kimmer threads.

I never belonged to KK but I can see how when one is desperate to find that one thing, that one plan, that one possible solution to finally be able to lose the weight. I have an eating disorder and getting help the right way and not by crack pots who encourage laxative use or to find ways to eat less and scold you when you've eaten more than what was written! "Thou shall not eat chicken skin!" KK seemed like the best thing since diet coke, didn't it? No, surgery, no this or that, blah, blah, blah. Well, you know what? Diet Coke contains aspartame and we all know how harmful it is to your body. (See Sweet Misery, fascinating documentary.) KK is just like that Sweet Misery, you try to find vanity only to get the insanity!

I'm sure you noticed her little tab called, "The Great Debate" on KK's homepage a couple of months ago. Wasn't that the "red flag"? Hmmm? Something isn't right with this plan. Maybe you should have done what Rosie O'Donnell said one time on the View and "Google It". There are hundreds of sites about how KK was not only wrong but deadly to your mental and physical well being! If you were worried about being banned for asking questions than maybe KK wasn't a good choice after all, was it?

Why do you have to circle around the block when it come to KK? I don't understand the grade school antics of the sock puppets and never will. I'll never understand the devotion they give to her. A 300lb. bald woman who screams out "Off with their head" like the Red Queen of Alice in Wonderland when someone dares question her authority?! I'm shaking my head because it really is retarded. KK has become an addiction within itself!

"But, right now, Dee is looking after Dee."

The only cure is to cut yourself off. Not tomorrow. Today. Right now.

If you have truly great friends at KK, they will follow by your example.

I can think of no greater support than Low Carb Friends. You have it here 100%. You know what? Its free!

ITA!!!!

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

I've tried to be open & honest out here. WIth some it has gotten me some dialog. WIth some it has gotten me some compassion. With some, because I haven't taken a stance one way or the other, I am gum on the bottom of their shoes. (no...not poor pitiful me...just a fact).

So, if I could please have some breathing room....I'd appreciate it. If you don't believe me...I can't help that right now.....If you want to help me...I'm reading through the material that has been sent to me, as I can and I appreciate supportive posts.

Thanks,
Dee

IMO you deserve to have breathing room. You will have to process this information in your own way and in your own time. I am confident you will come to the right conclusion. You are smart and open minded.

[NancyElle]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

ani and golite---yes...she is not a nutrtionalist...there is a big difference between an eating disorders psychologis and a dietician/nutritionalist. A very big difference. Many times they work together in the same office. Dr. McFarland does not have a nutritionalist in her office and I don't feel the need to see one anyway. So...no need for eyerolls...I'm seeing her for my mental issues with food...not to analyze my food consuption and choices.

Dee, there is no such word as nutrionalist...it is nutritionist.

Tippy Toes made that same error, when she was on the national talk show that exposed the Kimkins fraud, so that's why people are commenting about your post regarding the nutrionalist; there is no such word....

[Magicsmom]

Larcana, I have seen Heidi and others post that they trashed their thyroids crash dieting (as in KK). Is that possible? Does eating too little cause damage to your thyroid?

[DEEDLYNN]

Yes...I believe that Heidi would ban me...front page or not. She would do the same thing that she did with the girl that I replaced and the previous girl. I don't see either of them anymore...they just disappeared. So will she ban a poster child...the "answer" is yes...she will....I am not untouchable. Now Patty...after reading what Patty responded....she may very well be untouchable...I don't know her. But the fact that out here on this forum...I called CB out on today's post. I have said publicly who I am talking to and what I am doing to explore my options....I believe would have Heidi looking for a reason to ban me. I looked at the 17 year olds profile. I read most of the 7 or 8 posts that she has posted. They are quick one liners, excpet for the "cry for help" if that's what it was. Sorry, but I'm not going to put my head on the banning block for someone that I'm not even sure is in need of assistance or would take it even if they were. If Heidi is going to ban me....it's going to be for "no reason"...then...if folks ask me why I was banned...it will be for no reason.....not so Heidi can say Dee was giving out ED advice on the threads and that's against TOS.

As far as making a decision tonight....it's not gonna happen. I'm still active here (more active than at KK) and active at KK. IF it gets old...then it gets old....Yes, I was rude, I was defensive....but I said exactly how I felt when I first came out here...I felt like people were rude and obnoxious to me as well. I think admin of this thread even responded one time...."how do you expect people to act". I'm trying....what more do you want.

I can take it somewhere else...this thread seems to be informed.

What more can I say...I'm not leaving the other thread right now. I'm being honest about it. I'm absorbing it....and quite frankly...that seems to be the message that I got from the folks that endure the most from Heidi.

As far as gran...I'm sorry that she is experiencing problems. I don't wish that on anyone. I still however, do not agree with the hi-jacking tactics....if that's what you think I'm doing here, then I'll look for my answers elsewhere...

Again....could I please have some breathing room.

[DEEDLYNN]

thanks..thistime....sry to be abrupt....I'm tired...I've listened to and read a lot today and likely should just go to bed, since the alarm will be going off at 5:00 am...(well 5:30 if I have my way with the snooze button.).

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Thistime...would you like me to Ashley scan my appointment card from her business card. Perhaps the letter that she wrote on my behalf when I needed to. I don't know if I can find somewhere to scan & post....maybe Kinkos...but it seems that nothing I say will ever satisfy anyone out here.

Really, if my conscious would let me...it'd be a lot easier to go back where at least folks don't question the bling on my myspace or the doctors appointments I have....

Well, you can do that if you want to of course....but I would like to see that post or at least the reference for me to go view it. The one that brought you here etc.. You know..... I posted step by step directions thanks

Originally Posted by golite

Good catch!

Yes, and it is not the first tippism!

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by This time

But Dee a skeptic would say...well you heard Dr. Barbara's... name on oprah and googled it to make sure she is listed, of course if you tell people to go google Dr.Barbara... she will be listed, but thats not proof you went to her. Do you see what i mean? I'm not trying to be mean, it's just the little things that people think about.

Actually, I'm having a rather difficult time locating such a doctor. I can easily find Barbara McFarland who has written several books on eating disorders, but have yet to locate her practice.

[DEEDLYNN]

Magic...thanks and thanks for understanding.

Nancy--your right and you actually made me laugh...the first thought through my mind was good grief....the spelling wasn't the point...they missed my point....then I was ROTFLOL, the spelling was the point...it was their point.....not that my psycologist was not a nutrionist. Thanks for making me be able to laugh and laugh at myself, before I lay me down to sleep.

[tiggerr]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Larcana, I have seen Heidi and others post that they trashed their thyroids crash dieting (as in KK). Is that possible? Does eating too little cause damage to your thyroid?

I was diagnosed as hypothyroid (aka Hashimoto's) 2 years ago.
I firmly believe it was caused by going too low in calories.
I 'dabbled' in the meat and egg aspect of KK's.

Not too proud of that right now and I'm making much better choices.

[vernswifevickie]

Oh my goodness. I've spent the last little while catching up on all the posts I missed this evening. I don't know exactly why but this all just has left me feeling overwhelmingly sad tonight. I guess it's all just reminded me of how lost I felt when I realized the truth about kimkins and Heidi Diaz. It's still hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that anyone would play with other people's minds and health this way. It's just really sad to me right now.

Dee...I might be being naive but my heart goes out to you right now. I feel like you're being honest and I understand the need for some breathing room. Somehow I feel like you've seen and heard too much now for KK to ever feel like "home" again...but I also know that you have to realize that for yourself. It's been a whirlwind couple of days for you.....so go ahead and take some deep breaths. You don't have to decide anything tonight.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

...
If you want me to leave this thread...I can do that too. Narsasstic (sp)....I don't think I am in general, but maybe right now....I am. Maybe I am self-absorbed...but....I am here trying and adding pressure....really isn't helping......at least it isn't helping me.

Thanks,
Dee

Stay, Dee. Some have hoped you would make an instant decision, but it takes time for emotions to catch up to facts and logic. You're right - you have time. Because for every action, there's an opposite and equal reaction, you need to make your action one that that you can live with, including fallout.

[DEEDLYNN]

Mom to Eli....I'm looking at her business card right now...she is at 8035 Hosbrook Road, Suite 300, Cincinnati, OH 45236 (513) 793-2666. She is a sole practitioner.

[DEEDLYNN]

Vernswifevickie and SMP...thank you...thank you very much...I appreciate it.

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Larcana, I have seen Heidi and others post that they trashed their thyroids crash dieting (as in KK). Is that possible? Does eating too little cause damage to your thyroid?

Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16