Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

ETA.... Dee, I don't believe you have three people doing KK that are posting on this thread. I have had nine people tell me that you have not lost your weight on KK. Hmmmm, is someone not telling the truth? Get it?

I don't believe it either. It reeks of a divide and conquer strategy. If someone here is doing KK, it's not because they are an apologist for Hidey. It means they haven't made the transition yet and don't realize it's o.k. to eat. Just finishing up a nice cup of chicken salad made with full fat mayo. Yummy! Can't have that on KK. Too many calories. Heck when I did KK (the 2006 version ), I only ate about as many calories in the whole day as I am blowing on this lunch. Shocking but true.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

ok, lost it !

[gibster]

[This time]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Here is the "LOLTREK" episode I got those from

LOLTrek Live Granades

That is so funny I'm crying

[NancyElle]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Oh Nancy, come in and play!! You can have an appletini and we'll play with your fart machine! Come on, girlfriend!

I'm here.... Think I'll have a glass of wine!

[wifezilla]

I'm SO having a Friday!

YouTube - Star Trek Meets Monty Python

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

MomtoEli--two simple reasons that I didn't follow it after the band was removed...1) I was devastated and it took me months to get over that both financially and emotionally and 2) I didn't have the support. Two very simple reasons.

So, do you think lapbands are safe and do you encourage your friends to try them, even though it just wasn't for you? Or, do you think they are very dangerous, but hey, if someone else wants to shell out $17,000 and take a risk on getting very sick, more power to them - keep your mouth shut? Or do you try to warn others so that no one has to repeat the mistake you made?

As for hiding and whatnot - you took my comments totally out of context. I wasn't even referring to you specifically. It was a reflection on whether people are sincerely stepping out of Kimkins - those who decided that they didn't give a rip about the fact that Heidi is an admitted scammer and would advertise for her on the KK front page - because they truly do realize the danger they are placing themselves in, or if they simply go into hiding and continue to follow the diet anyway. Not sure how you turned that around and made it all about you.

The part you really don't seem to get is that real people - just as real as you - have suffered dire consequences from this diet - including but not limited to health issues that they didn't have prior to the diet, emotional scars in the forms of serious eating disorders and trust issues that they didn't suffer from before. These are REAL people, Dee. Their stories are REAL. Will EVERY person who attempts the diet suffer those consequences? No on really knows that. Do enough of them, particularly those who have lost a sizeable amount of weight, suffer them to cause concern for ALL who try the diet? We believe the answer to that is yes. So, whether you want to hold your hands over your ears and shake your head chanting "I can't hear you!" to block out the sound doesn't change a single thing. We aren't going to stop being concerned about others (including you). We aren't going to stop warning as many folks as WILL listen. We aren't going to stop turning up as much heat under Heidi Diaz and her website as we possibly can, until she is brought to justice AND shut down. And you aren't going to make even the slightest dent in that effort by posting here or not posting here. No one here is afraid of anything you believe you can bring against us to silence us.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Originally Posted by This time

Actually it's the silent ones that are dangerous

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Originally Posted by wifezilla

I'm SO having a Friday!

YouTube - Star Trek Meets Monty Python

Bahahhahaaaa!!!

Originally Posted by MomToEli

...

Not sure how you turned that around and made it all about you.

That was surprising, no? I was completely caught off guard by it.

[This time]

NancyElle...Wifezilla... what a way to kick a Friday into gear

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

It was because I knew what your response would be. No I don't use diversion. Not in the least.

But I did miss a question. But again, one that I've already answered..I don't weigh or measure anything. I count carbs. If I have a chicken breast. I eate the chicken breast whether it is 4 oz or 6 oz or 8 oz.

Toot....I don't have time for games either, but I do have time to stand up for myself when the "bullies" attack.

And, by the way...I've asked repeatedly about the real basis of the controversy....someone wanting to win the lottery in a lawsuit. Which is never gonna happen.

And yes, I have told my daughter about KK and she is attempting to follow the program and my 75 year old mother. So yes, I'm proud of it. As far as others, I have said the same thing that I have said out here. It's not for everyone and it is controversial. I tell people if they are going to the site, check it out, but also know that some have issues with it. Tell them to be informed before they make a decision. Because I think we are adults that can make our own DECISIONS and be RESPONSIBLE for them. Does anyone here tell both sides of the story. Nope, not that I can see.

A blink on the homepage. Yep...a blink that got someone's attention out here, and it was a gonna be a blink before I ever made the page. I was told that the HOMEPAGE was being re-done and she wanted me there for a week or two. Long enough to get some "moles" attention. Long enough for the nay sayers and haters to have plenty to say about it. Long enough to be important enough to google my screen name and guess what, long enough to receive several dozen emails about what an inspiration that I am. Long enough for people to come to me to ask for advice. Long enough....yep, just a blink, but long enough.

You guys are a HOOT!

Dee, it would take a complete idiot to think winning this lawsuit will be like hitting the lottery ... for one thing, Heidi has whisked away many of her assets - a move which I'm glad to say is illegal and will likely be one of the issues that brings criminal charges into the picture. To keep repeating that as any motivation for this lawsuit only shows how little you really do know about class actions and litigation (I thought that was your specialty?).

How old is your daughter? What a travisity that you would encourage your child, adult or minor, to become embroiled in this WOE. Why would a loving mother burden her own child with an eating disorder? How are you going to justify that to her when she finds herself with a slowed metabolism, warped thinking, fearful of taking in anywhere near the amount of calories her body needs simply to function properly? I honestly had NO opinion of you one way or the other until I read this ...

Ok. I'm done now. Good luck to you.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Bahahhahaaaa!!!

That was surprising, no? I was completely caught off guard by it.

Yeah. I never saw that one coming.

[DEEDLYNN]

Not sure how I lost my weight if not KK...or are you questioning that I lost? My foot prints are in KK site since last June and very heavily in there since October. So question away.....the 9 people are more than welcome to email me..you have the addresss. If I had another "secret" diet that I was hding away from everyone...well..I'd be sharing..a) I want people to beat obestity and b) you could never lose weight without support. So, put the proof in the pudding ...email me.

You don't have to believe that people have emailed me. Don't really care. I have the emails. I'm not one of the "mles" that can't be trusted with other folks private emails, so as far as I'm concerned, they are private. If they choose to come out in the open they will. If not, they likely are not ready for the "pack" just yet.

Just checked my email address....none of the "pack" is able to fend for themselves one on one with their questions in an email. hmmmmmmmmmm.

LAPBAND--still a big fan of it. Still think it is a great tool for fighting obesity. Still think that for someone who has no hope that it is a gazillion times better than gastric bypass. But respect those who feel the need and choose gastric bypass. Still have the best surgeon in the land, should I need to go back to the BAND someday, but I doubt that will be the case for me. Because I am successful on KK....and that just kills you don't it.

[wifezilla]

Eddie Izzard Star Trek

[DEEDLYNN]

Eli--read the post. "Lottery" lawsuits are seldom about the assets of the defendant. The "lottery" windfalls come from insurance proceeds, liens, judgements, book deals, reality TV shows. Heck, if it was about the assets of the defendant, no suits would ever be filed, unless of course it was against Donald Trump.

[TerryC]

Please Please Please NO ONE answer back deedlynn. I can't take it anymore. Everyone has said everything that needs to be said. No one's opinion is going to be changed by more debate back and forth.

[This time]

Originally Posted by TerryC

Please Please Please NO ONE answer back deedlynn. I can't take it anymore. Everyone has said everything that needs to be said. No one's opinion is going to be changed by more debate back and forth.

I agree with you

[DEEDLYNN]

My measurements....no more than 20 carbs per day. Let's see...20 carbs. that's an amount. That's a measurement. And, I think that a day or so ago I posted that my calories fall between 800-1100 on a day that I am not active and 1100 to 1500 on a day that I am very active. That's a guesstimate.
But one thing that's not a guestimate is the differnce in my before and during pic. Didn't someone say we're not sure she even lost weight. And, if you don't believe the before is me....pull up THANKSGIVING DAY RACE CINCINNATI. put in the bibb #. I'll bet it says. DeAnna Lynn Smith--Cincinnati, OH.
Come on "pack". Use the "pack" mentality. Divide and conquer....hardly, arent' you guys so strong in your convictions that you could never be conquered.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Oh...and BTW...this cookie is way to smart to deny anything that's said. I know that PM's, emails, blogs, forums, threads, none of them are private. I have said on more than one occassion that I have said nothing in private that I wouldn't say in public. Not my style. Not sure that everyone can say the same. I choose not to cut & paste or edit, but that's just me.

If I say it, I admit it. The whole moving it to my email, strictly to "debate" on an even playing field. No need to worry that someone will miss something. I'm sure it will all be cut & paste here. (Hopefully not edited--but who knows--).

Not sure why y'all are so threatened to ask you questions one at a time.....but I think it's because my success inflames you and since I give honest answers to questions, you won't be quite as witty, one on one.

Sooner or later, a pack turns on itself, and that my friends is why 3 of you have emailed me, wishing me well and admitting they were doing KK. LMAO.

Hey Dee ... you convice Heidi to let even ONE of us come over there and debate you, one against the mob over there ... just ONE. Bet she won't do it.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by TerryC

Please Please Please NO ONE answer back deedlynn. I can't take it anymore. Everyone has said everything that needs to be said. No one's opinion is going to be changed by more debate back and forth.

You're so right, Terry.

Ok ... I promise - I'm done.

[DEEDLYNN]

I've got 3 names KIMMERS would let in...LOL.....and your moles are already there..LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wifezilla]

Keeping with the Star Trek theme....how about the classic "Red Shirt Blues"?

YouTube - Redshirt Blues

[LowcarbFan]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

My measurements....no more than 20 carbs per day. Let's see...20 carbs. that's an amount. That's a measurement. And, I think that a day or so ago I posted that my calories fall between 800-1100 on a day that I am not active and 1100 to 1500 on a day that I am very active. That's a guesstimate.
But one thing that's not a guestimate is the differnce in my before and during pic. Didn't someone say we're not sure she even lost weight. And, if you don't believe the before is me....pull up THANKSGIVING DAY RACE CINCINNATI. put in the bibb #. I'll bet it says. DeAnna Lynn Smith--Cincinnati, OH.
Come on "pack". Use the "pack" mentality. Divide and conquer....hardly, arent' you guys so strong in your convictions that you could never be conquered.

I am not sure why you are arguing that you are on Heidi's plan. From what you just said here you are doing Atkins plan. And if Heidi is selling this as her plan she has stolen it (much like she stole all the fake pictures for her website) and might have to answer to them as well. If you do research on Atkins Dee you will find you are doing that plan so sticking up for Kimkins is moot and you might be hurting others by promoting kimkins because so many people are thinking of kimkins as the starvation, eat less then 400-500 calories, take laxitive plan. Why don't you research the real plan you did and then promote that instead of falsely saying you are doing a plan that has hurt so many people here and on the kimkins site.

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Losing, I believe that I was clear on why I would invite it to my email. It's because of the "pack" mentality. I can't answer one question without 50 more being posted and then being accused of not answering.

But then again, you can't debate if you aren't with the pack, can you? You can't have a conversation one on one and defend the "bullying" tactics of this crowd can you? You have to fend for yourself if it's one on one don't you. Not sure that any of you could stand alone like I have done.

BTW--chalk another email to me up from someone here that's here but doing KK, I believe that's 3 from here and 2 from AMYB's blog. Another good sign of the "pack" or "gang" mentality. They don't wanna participate, but they dont wanna be alienated either.

So, can you stand alone? I sure can. And, I do it pretty well I might add.

You know what, Dee? When you have regained your senses, I would love to have a conversation with you, and ask you about your dietary path. I was NEVER on KK, but I have read too many sad stories. You may want to poke fun at them, but if you do, I would consider you a heartless person.
Or maybe just a vicious person. You sound like both.

This KK diet is one that sound like you yourself, are not even following]. What a laugh! So how can you defend something that you are not even following yourself?

Are you even aware that you are not even DOING Kimkins? Sorry, you are a FRAUD! Plain and simple. Whatever it is you are doing - IF you even KNOW what you are doing - is certainly not KK. your brain quotient will not be a great deal to anyone who has heard you go on ... and on .... and on ..I'm taking a nap. Do you know, you bore the crap out of me? Which is why I am responding ONCE - only ONCE. Because that is all that you deserve from me. Goodbye. I hope when you have all your medical problems, that someone more compassionate than I responds. Because, frankly, I wash my hands of you. You have just wasted lots of time on this board that is needed for other things.

I think this is the harshest thing I ever posted. But it is also the biggest stack of CRAP I have ever encounted. I never even was connected to the *****. THANK GOD! And truthfully, after all you have posted, I say RUN to KK. You don't even do her plan, you don't count calories or carbs, TELL ME, WHAT