Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16

[DEEDLYNN]

no one said that Heidi didn't do anything wrong. No one. Yes, you are correct, AmyB is a sweetheart. I have nothing against her. We have agreed to disagree with regards to my CHOICE of my WOE.

Msmen...which of your questions did I miss. I thought I responded directly to you...but apparently you were curious about something that I missed.

And again, the end justifies the means....so long as your talking about yourself. Others are held to a higher standard. For the record....in case you didn't get it....It was a hypothetical answer.

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[LosingToLive]

thank you Dee, but you did not include ounces or cups etc. I'd like to get a better idea of your success with KK.

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Toot---you guys are asking me questions. I respond and that's your response. Are you kidding me? If you don't want a response. Don't ask. It's that simple.

Losing to Live: Happy to post a menu, but I don't measure much of anything unless it has carbs.

7:30 am.....Protein Pudding (stallone) or EAS shake/cappachino
9:30 am.....3 turkey sausage links. 2 eggs or 1 egg/2egg whites
noon.........turkey burger with mushrooms and salad w/ 0 cal-0 carb homemade honeymustard dressing or Diet Cola Sloppy Joe
2:30 pm....turkey pepperoni & a string cheese or EAS shake or protein pudding
5:30 pm....grilled chicken w/ steamed veggies or
tilapia w/ smashed cauliflower (my fav) or
philly steak--steak ums (very rarely was never a fan of red meat) or pork chops with diet cola bbq sauce & asparagus

7:30 pm....(this one depends on my activity for the day.) If I have been active, I will have crustless pizza (turkey pepperoni, string cheese, low carb pizza sauce, mushrooms, onions, green peppers--nuked). If I am not really hungry, I will have a carb control yogurt.

There it is.....feel free to dissect it, edit it, copy it, post it, analyze it, etc..Because I know you will. The only thing I count is carbs...not to exceed 20 a day.

[OhYeahBabe]

So peeps, what's the fascination with Kimmer?

When's the next court event?

Is there going to be a birthday party here tomorrow? We have at least one birthday girl right here, don't we?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Msmen...which of your questions did I miss. I thought I responded directly to you...but apparently you were curious about something that I missed.

Here ya go:

So what about those children out there who may not have parents, or are not blessed with parents that actually monitor them? Does that then make it okay for Heidi Diaz to advise them? Are they fair game because they may not have the advantage of adult supervision?

Why would you have to ask her anything in private? What, out of all that she did, earned her any kind of consideration of the positions you mention above? Why, as a consumer who had been lied to, do you feel some sort of authority figure type respect was earned or required?

Would you feel this way if you had purchased a product that claimed it would make your hair thick, long, and shiny. You based that purchase on the information the company supplied; success stories, pictures, testimonials, the owner not only being the owner but a client as well. The product did what it claimed, but you later found out that despite it's claims to be safe and successful it was uncovered that the company lied in it's advertising. Your hair does get long, thick and shiny but it causes cancer. Several people now have cancer. Is this product and the practices of the company excusable because your hair looks so good now and, so far, you're cancer fee? And based on your success with the product, but knowing what you know has happened to others, would you then recommend it to someone else, or let your mother, sister, child, sibling, loved one use it? Would you keep using it yourself and just hope for the best end results? Should those that are thinking of purchasing that product know it was fraudulently advertised and what can happen if they use it? Should it be taken off the market because great hair isn't worth the risk of becoming ill?

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Ok i have to go out for a while, now try not to behave while I'm gone

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

And again, the end justifies the means....so long as your talking about yourself. Others are held to a higher standard. For the record....in case you didn't get it....It was a hypothetical answer.

You do realize that statement applies to you, don't you?

[DEEDLYNN]

Ms.Men--again, there are children out there who aren't monitored on internet or anywhere else. It's unfortunate, but it happens. Call CPS, the folks that could make a difference in that child's life. If she got poor dieting advice, that's the least of her problems. Do I watch out for kids? You bet I do, don't assume that you know what my "real life" issues are, and what causes I support.
Yes, I do believe in a public forum, some things are more appropriately addressed in a PM.
Again, and again, and again, I have purchased numerous things that weren't what the promised. I got what I was promised at KK jeezle petes...I hope you guys never REALLY get taken advantage of by some sales person. Ever bought a used car "lemon". Ever bought a kitchen gadget that would dice & slice and be your kitchen end all.
And, no...that statement is not me....it is vintage haters. Who if they stopped hating "individuals" (you don't have to like KIMMERS or KK) might see that they have more in common than you'd think. But then again, some can't see the forest for the trees (or in this case TREE).

Did I answer your questions?

How about you TOOT? Which question did I miss of yours.

VICKIE? Ignoring me...If I go back to not posting, will you "poke" me out again. Because we know that you'll keep reading my blog--you failed to mention that this was how you knew that I was out here.

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

but when you get the answers, if you don't like them....then the diversion and the sarcasm...typical political manuevers to avoid the points.

Yes thats exactly what you have been doing, much like someone else in the ask Kimmer thread

[vernswifevickie]

Hey you guys! It works...that's so cool...I never tried it before.

[Tooter]

Thanks, Dee, but I will repeat myself:

"Forgive me, but I don't have the patience for the games. Maybe someone else does, but I don't.

I wish you the best."

[Amyb1569]

Linda
Check you PM...pretty please

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by slickchick

Nope, not the blond. She replaced the blond -- but I think just for a couple of days -- before they revamped (HA) the front page (and now only Patty - a different blond-- and Delaney are there).

Oh, and Dee - if you are still reading - just about anyone can come to the front page and look - whether a member or not.

Well, I must have blinked at the wrong time and missed it.

Originally Posted by Tooter

Ahh...A very good point, HoneyBee. That would be why so many of us are "clueless" and didn't remember reading anything about her.

I'm glad I'm not alone in that!

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

Terry.....apparently "anonymous" was quite busy yesterday. I am so done with anonymous comments on my blog. I really thought that I could continue to allow anonymous comments so that a person wouldn't have to sign in to leave a comment. I've had some of the ducks comment on my blog under the name "anonymous" and then sign their name at the end of their comment...so I really felt there was justification to allow anonymous comments. I have decided that it isn't worth it. What I find is that angry KK supporters (maybe only one, I don't really know) try and use the blogs to respond to things they have read here. The garbage they spew would never be allowed here...so they bomb the blogs. Good grief, I don't have a problem with people who don't agree with me. I would love to hear from intelligent, adult commenters who have a different opinion or point of view than I do...but these people (person?) ...well they are just foul mouthed, nasty, cowards who don't even have the courage to slither out from under the rock they're hiding under to make their comments. I'm done. They can go and spew their sewage elsewhere...but it's not going to be on my blog!

OK...I'm done ranting...

Good morning ducks

Well Vickie, if the anonymous comments keep rolling in on my blog, I may take the same action also, with apologies to those who don't want to register or log in. It's a shame that it happens. The one I got yesterday was far from an intelligent discourse - all they did was copy a post of mine and add a sarcastic quip that had absolutely no relevance to the post they were commenting on. Sorry, but if it's not on topic, I'm not posting it!

Originally Posted by Madam De Leon

Hey ducks, it's Friday!!!

Anyone up for dancing around to "Twist 'n' Shout"?

Yeah baby, dancing burns calories! I think Friday came early this week! We all can use two Fridays in our week, right?

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

Hey you guys! It works...that's so cool...I never tried it before.

Yeah, it does. I just wish you couldn't even see that they posted. I'd prefer that it just completely hid any reference to them at all.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

Ms.Men--again, there are children out there who aren't monitored on internet or anywhere else. It's unfortunate, but it happens. Call CPS, the folks that could make a difference in that child's life. If she got poor dieting advice, that's the least of her problems. Do I watch out for kids? You bet I do, don't assume that you know what my "real life" issues are, and what causes I support.
Yes, I do believe in a public forum, some things are more appropriately addressed in a PM.
Again, and again, and again, I have purchased numerous things that weren't what the promised. I got what I was promised at KK jeezle petes...I hope you guys never REALLY get taken advantage of by some sales person. Ever bought a used car "lemon". Ever bought a kitchen gadget that would dice & slice and be your kitchen end all.
And, no...that statement is not me....it is vintage haters. Who if they stopped hating "individuals" (you don't have to like KIMMERS or KK) might see that they have more in common than you'd think. But then again, some can't see the forest for the trees (or in this case TREE).

Did I answer your questions?

Actually, no you didn't.
I asked:

Would you feel this way if you had purchased a product that claimed it would make your hair thick, long, and shiny. You based that purchase on the information the company supplied; success stories, pictures, testimonials, the owner not only being the owner but a client as well. The product did what it claimed, but you later found out that despite it's claims to be safe and successful it was uncovered that the company lied in it's advertising. Your hair does get long, thick and shiny but it causes cancer. Several people now have cancer. Is this product and the practices of the company excusable because your hair looks so good now and, so far, you're cancer fee? And based on your success with the product, but knowing what you know has happened to others, would you then recommend it to someone else, or let your mother, sister, child, sibling, loved one use it? Would you keep using it yourself and just hope for the best end results?Should those that are thinking of purchasing that product know it was fraudulently advertised and what can happen if they use it? Should it be taken off the market because great hair isn't worth the risk of becoming ill?

You said:

Ms.Men--again, there are children out there who aren't monitored on internet or anywhere else. It's unfortunate, but it happens. Call CPS, the folks that could make a difference in that child's life. If she got poor dieting advice, that's the least of her problems. Do I watch out for kids? You bet I do, don't assume that you know what my "real life" issues are, and what causes I support.

You excuse Heidi's actions concerning the 14 year old child that was on Kimkins and that she advised to lower already extremely low calories because you feel if it's the least of her problems? Proper nutrition, good health, and development are not small issues. EVERYone can make a difference in a child's life. Everyone. Why is Heidi excused from her responsibility and her lying about it. She said she would never allow a child to join her site. She did. That is her diet and her site and she has a responsibility to her members and, IMO, an even bigger responsibility to a minor. You're blaming her parents and exonerating Heidi Diaz of her actions.

You still did not answer my question ..what about those children not fortunate enough to have adult supervision? Does Heidi's responsibility come into play then?

You accuse me of claiming/assuming I know what you're real life issues are and what causes you support. Please copy and paste an example of that for me. I don't recall having done anything of the sort.

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Yeah baby, dancing burns calories! I think Friday came early this week! We all can use two Fridays in our week, right?

Or 3... or 4... as long as it happens to continue.

Just keep twisting and shouting, and we'll keep dancing!:kicki ng:

[Katinsac]

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[Magicsmom]

Mrs. M, you have brought up some really good points! Just as products are required to put up a warning when they may be harmful to your health, Kimkins should be required to do the same! People show their doctors a generic menu that doesn't mention the size of the portions and get their doctor's blessing to do the diet. What the doctor doesn't know is that when the menu says they are having "turkey", it's a very small portion. Most doctors are brainwashed in the low fat way of thinking anyway, so KK looks wonderful to them. But if they knew the portion sizes, they'd not be so quick to bless it.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

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Hi Kat! Kat got your tongue?

[OhYeahBabe]

Kat, it's nice to see you around lately. I hope you're doing well.

ETA: Good one, Magicsmom!

[DEEDLYNN]

It was because I knew what your response would be. No I don't use diversion. Not in the least.

But I did miss a question. But again, one that I've already answered..I don't weigh or measure anything. I count carbs. If I have a chicken breast. I eate the chicken breast whether it is 4 oz or 6 oz or 8 oz.

Toot....I don't have time for games either, but I do have time to stand up for myself when the "bullies" attack.

And, by the way...I've asked repeatedly about the real basis of the controversy....someone wanting to win the lottery in a lawsuit. Which is never gonna happen.

And yes, I have told my daughter about KK and she is attempting to follow the program and my 75 year old mother. So yes, I'm proud of it. As far as others, I have said the same thing that I have said out here. It's not for everyone and it is controversial. I tell people if they are going to the site, check it out, but also know that some have issues with it. Tell them to be informed before they make a decision. Because I think we are adults that can make our own DECISIONS and be RESPONSIBLE for them. Does anyone here tell both sides of the story. Nope, not that I can see.

A blink on the homepage. Yep...a blink that got someone's attention out here, and it was a gonna be a blink before I ever made the page. I was told that the HOMEPAGE was being re-done and she wanted me there for a week or two. Long enough to get some "moles" attention. Long enough for the nay sayers and haters to have plenty to say about it. Long enough to be important enough to google my screen name and guess what, long enough to receive several dozen emails about what an inspiration that I am. Long enough for people to come to me to ask for advice. Long enough....yep, just a blink, but long enough.

You guys are a HOOT!

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by DEEDLYNN

It was because I knew what your response would be. No I don't use diversion. Not in the least.

But I did miss a question. But again, one that I've already answered..I don't weigh or measure anything. I count carbs. If I have a chicken breast. I eate the chicken breast whether it is 4 oz or 6 oz or 8 oz.

But this is where I am confused, how do you know how many carbs you are eating if you don't weigh or measure?

[wifezilla]

The only reason I can think of that someone would want to spend so much time defending a fraud and a liar is because they are getting something out of the arrangement. An affiliate perhaps? This thread could be effecting someone's bottom line. Kind of like back in the day when Jimmy Moore was a KK affiliate and defended her diet so strongly...even though he was NOT following her plan. He was making money promoting her site. Good thing he saw the light and denounced her when he finally saw what it was all about.

[Katinsac]

Dee...I like you menu. Wow, if I could of had all that, maybe I would not of had the health problems I had on KK. Sounds more like Atkins to me anyway. I guess I'm glad Heidi "cleaned up her menu" due to the lawsuit. Too bad it wasn't the one she was pushing when we all started. here is one of mine. It didn't cut and past real well but you get the gest.

As much as you'd like to say you are following KK, with the following comment...

If the breast is 4, 6 or 8 ounces, I eat it (not an exact quote, sorry, couldn't go back).

YOU ARE NOT DOING KIMINS. Sorry. This is the part that most of you "success" stories over there do not understand. Puddings, more fat, larger portions....IS NOT KIMKINS as originally written. It is Atkins. I guess if you've never followed Atkins or the like before and only have Kimkins as an example of low carb, then you think it is Kimkins.

Please don't get me wrong here...I do not care what plan you follow and wish you the best but down the line "when this diet fails you too"....yes, we may not say "I told you so" but you will have that in the back of your head when it happens. I wish you the best on your weight loss journey.


lol...sorry Honey...early in the morn...was going to say something then thought better of it, lol. Yep, I'm here every day lurking (like many others, lol). You guys are just too fast for me with all your comments, lol.

Happy Friday but I see it already happened yesterday, lol.

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