Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16 - Page 81

mrsmenopausal · 05-06-2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SMP

Nah, so has ours. Perpetual motion between toolbox and wallet. <sigh>

I hear ya. Ugh. Isn't it a pain? I hope yours had a better outcome than ours. Son's car is a goner. It's the transmission and it's an old car. sigh.

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Originally Posted by Magicsmom

I have awesome rib steaks to cook on the grill!

I should have eaten at your house!

thetruthinhiding · 05-06-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Awakened

<3 is a heart if you look at sideways

Hmm. So what is -3?

cleochatra · 05-06-2008, 06:10 AM

That looks like a butt with a spine above it.

Did you just moon us?

Tooter · 05-06-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

That looks like a butt with a spine above it.

Did you just moon us?

This is a "Moon"

(_!_)

cleochatra · 05-06-2008, 06:37 AM

OMG... that's so cute. Little rectum and everything.

SydneyN · 05-06-2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

That looks like a butt with a spine above it.

Did you just moon us?

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Originally Posted by Tooter

This is a "Moon"

(_!_)

You guys are killing me!

This time · 05-06-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tooter

This is a "Moon"

(_!_)

Thats a cute one tooter

vernswifevickie · 05-06-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruthinhiding

Hmm. So what is -3?

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

That looks like a butt with a spine above it.

Did you just moon us?

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Originally Posted by Tooter

This is a "Moon"

(_!_)

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

OMG... that's so cute. Little rectum and everything.

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Originally Posted by SydneyN

You guys are killing me!

OMG...you guys are funny this morning! Cleo, you especially crack me up!

BamaGal · 05-06-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

I think Kimkins can honestly make adults into anorexics. Now, some might say that's heresy, but the mentality makes the eating disorder:

The mentality that even vegetables should be eaten in pinches.

The mentality that helping along the removal of weight from the body using artificial means is positive.

The mentality that if you don't lose a pound a day there is something wrong with you.

Kimkins Survivors has more than a few who have exhibited adult onset eating disorders.

So, even those who don't come into Kimkins with an eating disorder find that dangerously low caloric levels, coupled with promises of losses with no exercise (which is up there AGAIN on her site and is a red flag according to the FTC) and 'peer pressure' to eat things such as egg whites help foster a very dysfunctional view of food.

Excellent!!

Dieting by itself can trigger the onset of ED

Those who diet moderately are five times more likely to develop eating disorders than those who don't diet. For those who diet "severely," the chances of an eating disorder are eighteen times greater.

Further, dieting sets an example that can lead to eating disorders in others. A mother's dieting creates a greater chance of an eating disorder in her daughter. The same occurs when a sister diets, or when someone has a group of friends who diet.

this is from somethingfishy an ED recovery site:

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Dieting is about losing a little bit of weight in a healthy way.

Eating Disorders are about trying to make your whole life better through food and eating (or lack of).

Dieting is about doing something healthy for yourself.

Eating Disorders are about seeking approval and acceptance from everyone through negative attention.

Dieting is about losing a bit of weight and doing it healthfully.

Eating Disorders are about how life won't be good until a bit (or a lot) of weight is lost, and there's no concern for what kind of damage you do to yourself to get there.

Dieting is about losing some weight in a healthy way so how you feel on the outside will match how good you already feel on the inside.

Eating Disorders are about being convinced that your whole self-esteem is hinged on what you weigh and how you look.

Dieting is about attempting to control your weight a bit better.

Eating Disorders are about attempting to control your life and emotions through food/lack of food -- and are a huge neon sign saying "look how out of control I really feel"

Dieting is about losing some weight.

Eating Disorders are about everything going on in life -- stress, coping, pain, anger, acceptance, validation, confusion, fear -- cleverly (or not so cleverly) hidden behind phrases like "I'm just on a diet".

they also have a great questionnaire

vernswifevickie · 05-06-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

Excellent!!

Dieting by itself can trigger the onset of ED

Those who diet moderately are five times more likely to develop eating disorders than those who don't diet. For those who diet "severely," the chances of an eating disorder are eighteen times greater.

Further, dieting sets an example that can lead to eating disorders in others. A mother's dieting creates a greater chance of an eating disorder in her daughter. The same occurs when a sister diets, or when someone has a group of friends who diet.

this is from somethingfishy an ED recovery site:

they also have a great questionnaire

Bama...you have amazing insight into this! I am learning so much from your posts.

Magicsmom · 05-06-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Now, as for Dana Carpender and if she still supports Kimkins, I couldn't find anything either.

Is there any evidence that Dana Carpender ever supported Kimkins? I wouldn't put it past Heidi to have made that up. God only knows, 99% of every thing else she told us was a lie.

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I should have eaten at your house!

I don't know what it is about the first steak of the season cooked on the grill, but my goodness it was yummy!

cleochatra · 05-06-2008, 07:10 AM

Re: Dana-- IIRC, she backed up Jimmy Moore when he was following Kimkins, and she didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with the plan, stating that people need to do what's right for them. Of course, Jimmy was looking for support, so she wasn't likely to blast a plan she'd most likely never heard of before and which she was given a serial tweaker's version of.

Take that for what it is.

BamaGal · 05-06-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Is there any evidence that Dana Carpender ever supported Kimkins? I wouldn't put it past Heidi to have made that up. God only knows, 99% of every thing else she told us was a lie.

it was Jimmy who stated Dana was in support of the Kimkins diet---back when he was trying to convince everyone it was a good thing....

love your cats---I just have the obsession for black cats--never had one myself but I collect little black cat figurines, prints and stuff--you ought to see my Halloween decorations...

ETA--gee you're quick Cleo---congrats on the weight loss too...

Tooter · 05-06-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

Re: Dana-- IIRC, she backed up Jimmy Moore when he was following Kimkins, and she didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with the plan, stating that people need to do what's right for them. Of course, Jimmy was looking for support, so she wasn't likely to blast a plan she'd most likely never heard of before and which she was given a serial tweaker's version of.

Take that for what it is.

Cleo, From what I remember, Dana sent Jimmy a PRIVATE email. He was taking alot of flack from alot of us (trying to get him to see the light) She sent him a private email trying to encourage him. She has been in the spotlight and knows how rough that is. I don't think she knew (or looked into) the plan. Her statement wasn't in support of Kimkins, she really just assumed (from Jimmy's word) That it was just another low carb plan that people were bashing. I'm sure she never really gave it any thought, she was just trying to encourage someone in a private email.

Jimmy was the one who took that portion of that private email and posted it on his blog as Her support of the plan.

Magicsmom · 05-06-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

Re: Dana-- IIRC, she backed up Jimmy Moore when he was following Kimkins, and she didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with the plan, stating that people need to do what's right for them. Of course, Jimmy was looking for support, so she wasn't likely to blast a plan she'd most likely never heard of before and which she was given a serial tweaker's version of.

Take that for what it is.

You hit on something I was thinking; that she never really took a good look at KK herself, but was receiving information second hand from Jimmy. Since it was he (not she) who said she was supporting it, then he should clarify whether or not she still supports it, or to what level she ever supported it.

Magicsmom · 05-06-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

love your cats---I just have the obsession for black cats--never had one myself but I collect little black cat figurines, prints and stuff--you ought to see my Halloween decorations.....

Thanks! They're special boys! My mom calls them her grandsons.

cleochatra · 05-06-2008, 07:27 AM

Didn't Dana give permission for her email to be posted, though? I honestly believe she had no concept of what the plan truly was.

I think, as Magics is saying, that Dana was supporting her friend Jimmy, and not necessarily the plan itself. Really, any logical person who sees Kimkins knows that it's a fetid pile of poop.

Dana would, by supporting Kimkins-- a plan of people who tend to eat less than an Olson twin on a binge day-- be losing a spankload of cookbook buyers.

LoraJR72 · 05-06-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

Excellent!!

Dieting by itself can trigger the onset of ED

Those who diet moderately are five times more likely to develop eating disorders than those who don't diet. For those who diet "severely," the chances of an eating disorder are eighteen times greater.

Further, dieting sets an example that can lead to eating disorders in others. A mother's dieting creates a greater chance of an eating disorder in her daughter. The same occurs when a sister diets, or when someone has a group of friends who diet.

this is from somethingfishy an ED recovery site:

they also have a great questionnaire

This is why I am in Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous.

Mayberryfan · 05-06-2008, 07:58 AM

Question

Does anyone know what happened to PrettyPaula? She was a KK admin for a nanosecond, then she posted here in the ML frequently. But, I haven't seen anything from her in weeks. I know she was getting frustrated and at one point posted that she was thinking of going back to a KK-type WOE.

wifezilla · 05-06-2008, 08:03 AM

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Dieting by itself can trigger the onset of ED

Ever read up on the Minnesota Starvation Study? They took healthy young men and restricted them to 1500 calories a day...a lot of it carbs. It cause a LOT of emotional damage...some of it lasting way beyond the study.

Tooter · 05-06-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cleochatra

Didn't Dana give permission for her email to be posted, though? I honestly believe she had no concept of what the plan truly was.

I think, as Magics is saying, that Dana was supporting her friend Jimmy, and not necessarily the plan itself. Really, any logical person who sees Kimkins knows that it's a fetid pile of poop.

Dana would, by supporting Kimkins-- a plan of people who tend to eat less than an Olson twin on a binge day-- be losing a spankload of cookbook buyers.

I don't remember Anything about her giving her permission. I have never read anything about Dana And Kimkins except in the Portion of the email that he posted.

I guess someone would have to ask "Jimmy" if she gave permission or not.

I always "Took it" that in the "heat" of the moment he just posted it to say "TAKE THAT, you negative Nancys"!!!

thetruthinhiding · 05-06-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Question

Does anyone know what happened to PrettyPaula? She was a KK admin for a nanosecond, then she posted here in the ML frequently. But, I haven't seen anything from her in weeks. I know she was getting frustrated and at one point posted that she was thinking of going back to a KK-type WOE.

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LoraJR72 · 05-06-2008, 08:07 AM

I thought the same thing quite a while ago!

05-06-2008, 06:10 AM	#2403
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,711 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	That looks like a butt with a spine above it. Did you just moon us?

05-06-2008, 06:37 AM	#2405
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,711 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	OMG... that's so cute. Little rectum and everything.

05-06-2008, 07:10 AM	#2412
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,711 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	Re: Dana-- IIRC, she backed up Jimmy Moore when he was following Kimkins, and she didn't seem to think there was anything wrong with the plan, stating that people need to do what's right for them. Of course, Jimmy was looking for support, so she wasn't likely to blast a plan she'd most likely never heard of before and which she was given a serial tweaker's version of. Take that for what it is.

05-06-2008, 07:27 AM	#2417
cleochatra Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,711 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	Didn't Dana give permission for her email to be posted, though? I honestly believe she had no concept of what the plan truly was. I think, as Magics is saying, that Dana was supporting her friend Jimmy, and not necessarily the plan itself. Really, any logical person who sees Kimkins knows that it's a fetid pile of poop. Dana would, by supporting Kimkins-- a plan of people who tend to eat less than an Olson twin on a binge day-- be losing a spankload of cookbook buyers.

05-06-2008, 07:58 AM	#2419
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,424 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Question Does anyone know what happened to PrettyPaula? She was a KK admin for a nanosecond, then she posted here in the ML frequently. But, I haven't seen anything from her in weeks. I know she was getting frustrated and at one point posted that she was thinking of going back to a KK-type WOE.

05-06-2008, 08:07 AM	#2423
LoraJR72 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Over the river and through the woods... Posts: 3,477 Blog Entries: 1 Gallery: LoraJR72 Stats: 136/???/127 - 5'6" WOE: Working on it.	I thought the same thing quite a while ago!