Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16 - Page 7

Magicsmom · 04-09-2008, 08:21 PM

I still haven't gotten it, not even in my spam folder. Maybe my virus detection killed it.

Nady · 04-09-2008, 08:41 PM

I got it~ it was in my hotmail spam folder~ I haven't posted more than a few times at Jimmy's and that was months ago~ tried to read there a couple of days ago~ got the error and site down message. Have no idea why I was one of the 'chosen ones' but I was never a member of KK~
~~~N

MomToEli · 04-09-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisyrat

It is very tempting to automatically blame Heidi for things like this, and to a certain extent it behooves us (as my Nana used to say) to act with caution before we start flinging accusations.

But Kat makes a very salient point. Jimmy's discussion board is *free*. He does run ads on his website, but to the best of my knowledge, there's no mention of PayPal on either site -- someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.

However, Jimmy *was* a K-kins affiliate. That means Heidi *does* know his PayPal email address, because that's how she paid him.

It's entirely possible he just used his main email address for PayPal, of course, which is why it's good to establish a secondary account for stuff like that. But many people use PayPal -- so far as I know, Jimmy was the only one who had his PayPal account hit.

Interesting.

Lisa, doesn't he have some things for sale? I'm thinking maybe some LC food products and maybe a book? Does he accept Paypal for those?

MomToEli · 04-09-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

FWIW...I am a registered member over at Jimmy's site, but was never a member at Kimkins, nor have I ever been on any of her mailing lists.
I never posted on Jimmy's forum, but I got that email, nevertheless~

AOL is where I get my email, if that makes any difference?

Shoot, I am so dizzy, twisted, and~ frought with a wee bit of paranoia, skepticism, and angst~ from all that has happened recently (and not so recently), that I don't know if what I just wrote makes any sense or any difference at all!

People, I have a MA in English, and at present, I can't even get my thoughts straight about all of this fodder.....

Heidi Diaz et al (and all that that implys) continues to both repulse and amaze me.....

I'm a member, logged on day before yesterday, didn't post, though, and did NOT get the email. Now that I think of it, though, I may have not updated my email address over there, so it may have been sent to a defunct address.

samredman · 04-09-2008, 09:18 PM

If anyone has the virus in quarantine (it would be in your virus trapping software) or if you have the offending email still in your email box, somehow you need to get that very important evidence to Jimmy. However, you don't want to just send it to him by forwarding email (you don't want to be sending a virus). Instead, contact him first and ask him to inquire of his security consultant if he (or she) would like to get it. If he does want it for investigation work, then they will be able to tell you how to handle it, so they can receive and examine it. The reason having that virus-laden email is important is because that virus will enable an investigative effort to discover where the personal information, which the virus was intending to be collecting from you, is going to be sent. I once had several viruses analyzed and I was able to track down the exact location of a hacking operation. In my situation, all I could do was turn that info over to an interpol-like task force investigating international cyber crime, because all of the data (in the one I discovered) was being sent to a location in Asia.

But, in this case, those doing the Jimmy investigation would be one giant step closer to solving the mystery, if they knew where collected data was being sent.

Sheridan · 04-09-2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaGal

who did get the emails---just a poll here---

I got one, it was in my spam folder. I registered at Jimmy's forum last fall (but have never posted there), and the last time I surfed over there was maybe a month or more ago. I can't remember if I logged in then or not. I was never a member of KK.

NancyElle · 04-10-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

FWIW...I am a registered member over at Jimmy's site, but was never a member at Kimkins, nor have I ever been on any of her mailing lists.
I never posted on Jimmy's forum, but I got that email, nevertheless~

AOL is where I get my email, if that makes any difference?

Shoot, I am so dizzy, twisted, and~ frought with a wee bit of paranoia, skepticism, and angst~ from all that has happened recently (and not so recently), that I don't know if what I just wrote makes any sense or any difference at all!

People, I have a MA in English, and at present, I can't even get my thoughts straight about all of this fodder.....

Heidi Diaz et al (and all that that implys) continues to both repulse and amaze me.....

BLEH! I loathe (OR LOATH, depending on which source one uses) spelling and grammatical errors.....Although, I am the great perpetrator of both....."implys" is not a word, and it is too late to edit.

implies

Third-person singular simple present indicative form of imply

YES, I am anal

YES, I have a mild case of self diagnosed OCD

YES, To any and everything else one might surmise

Thanks for listening; now....carry on.....May the grammar gods be with you.....

Madam De Leon · 04-10-2008, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

BLEH! I loathe (OR LOATH, depending on which source one uses) spelling and grammatical errors.....Although, I am the great perpetrator of both....."implys" is not a word, and it is too late to edit.

implies

Third-person singular simple present indicative form of imply

YES, I am anal

YES, I have a mild case of self diagnosed OCD

YES, To any and everything else one might surmise

Thanks for listening; now....carry on.....May the grammar gods be with you.....

Try not to worry about it - on here, we tend to overlook little mistakes like that, and if we can understand what you're trying to say, it's fine.

I know, that doesn't really help you deal with your internal feelings about making a grammar mistake though...

knoxvegas · 04-10-2008, 06:09 AM

I got the email, and have not been to his site in weeks, BUT I too, always forget to "log out".
Back to lurking

catzrule · 04-10-2008, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaGal

who did get the emails---just a poll here---

I got the BlueMountain email, which I find odd, since I don't post much, only when I see something that makes me go hmmmm and none of the other ducks have picked up on it. I didn't open it, just deleted it.

I did not get the email from Jimmy's site. I had never been a member at KK or his site. I don't know if this helps or muddies things up.

To answer Jeanessa's question about a bot being able to do all that happened at Jimmy's site. No, a bot wouldn't be intelligent enough to do all that and with the identities of the admins that were picked to log on and post, I suspect this was someone who knew what they were doing to stir trouble. An anonymous hacker wouldn't know which admin acounts to ban, which one's to post under to stir trouble, etc.

MomToEli · 04-10-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catzrule

I got the BlueMountain email, which I find odd, since I don't post much, only when I see something that makes me go hmmmm and none of the other ducks have picked up on it. I didn't open it, just deleted it.

I did not get the email from Jimmy's site. I had never been a member at KK or his site. I don't know if this helps or muddies things up.

To answer Jeanessa's question about a bot being able to do all that happened at Jimmy's site. No, a bot wouldn't be intelligent enough to do all that and with the identities of the admins that were picked to log on and post, I suspect this was someone who knew what they were doing to stir trouble. An anonymous hacker wouldn't know which admin acounts to ban, which one's to post under to stir trouble, etc.

I agree with you, Catzrule. I don't buy that it is a random act, and I'm at a loss as to why samredman seems intent on convincing us it is so ... and that he lives in Dallas

catzrule · 04-10-2008, 06:43 AM

I noticed that too, Mom, but was trying to keep an open mind.

SydneyN · 04-10-2008, 06:47 AM

I got the email, too. I never log out of his site, so I know I was still logged in. I completely deleted the email account it was sent to. That email account was mostly for health and weight loss issues. I have found it's simpler to divide up my email accounts into categories. This way, if I'm busy, I can just check the "important" ones. So all I really got at that address was health newsletters and stuff like that.

Only friends and family get my "real" email. lol

Magicsmom · 04-10-2008, 07:13 AM

Well, I still haven't received the e-mail. It is very curious as to how it was decided that some members would get it, and some would not. The only thing I can figure out is that either my server detected the virus and didn't send it to me, or my anti-virus software deleted it as it was coming in. Either that, or I didn't get one at all.

Madam De Leon · 04-10-2008, 07:21 AM

I didnt' get the blue mountain one. So either hotmail caught it and tossed it out, or it was only sent to specific people... or its' unrelated to this.... Or was it intended to look like it was sent from Jimmy's site?

NancyElle · 04-10-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madam De Leon

Try not to worry about it - on here, we tend to overlook little mistakes like that, and if we can understand what you're trying to say, it's fine.

I know, that doesn't really help you deal with your internal feelings about making a grammar mistake though...

Oh, I was just in a silly mood last night! My attempt at humor, Isuppose!

I'm really not that neurotic.........Thanks for being sweet.

NancyElle · 04-10-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I agree with you, Catzrule. I don't buy that it is a random act, and I'm at a loss as to why samredman seems intent on convincing us it is so ... and that he lives in Dallas

Ditto to this!

MomToEli · 04-10-2008, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catzrule

I noticed that too, Mom, but was trying to keep an open mind.

My mind is open. I'd love to hear his why.

I also would love to hear him answer the question Prudentia asked him on her blog:

Sam, have you had any contact with Heidi Diaz - direct or otherwise?

MomToEli · 04-10-2008, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SydneyN

I got the email, too. I never log out of his site, so I know I was still logged in. I completely deleted the email account it was sent to. That email account was mostly for health and weight loss issues. I have found it's simpler to divide up my email accounts into categories. This way, if I'm busy, I can just check the "important" ones. So all I really got at that address was health newsletters and stuff like that.

Only friends and family get my "real" email. lol

I see you all are in for some wild weather today ... stay safe!

Mayberryfan · 04-10-2008, 07:29 AM

Magic,

Many e-mail services will send a file like that right to the trash heap. I didn't get it even in my Spam folder. I also have some pretty decent filters set up so that I don't have to bother with some of that junk!

I got tired of the emails promising to enlarge my p$n&s

SydneyN · 04-10-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I see you all are in for some wild weather today ... stay safe!

Thanks for the concern.

I drove to work in a thunderstorm this morning. Can you believe we are supposed to get snow on Saturday?

It would have been perfect weather for staying home and posting on Jimmy's forum.

Guess I will have to spend most of my time here now.

catzrule · 04-10-2008, 07:53 AM

Just curious, when is Singinglass' depo?

Mayberryfan · 04-10-2008, 07:58 AM

SydneyN! Do I "know" you from somewhere? I think I do. I hope I do.

Anyway, we're glad to have you here and hope you will stick around!

gibster · 04-10-2008, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisyrat

It is very tempting to automatically blame Heidi for things like this, and to a certain extent it behooves us (as my Nana used to say) to act with caution before we start flinging accusations.

But Kat makes a very salient point. Jimmy's discussion board is *free*. He does run ads on his website, but to the best of my knowledge, there's no mention of PayPal on either site -- someone correct me if I'm wrong about that.

However, Jimmy *was* a K-kins affiliate. That means Heidi *does* know his PayPal email address, because that's how she paid him.

It's entirely possible he just used his main email address for PayPal, of course, which is why it's good to establish a secondary account for stuff like that. But many people use PayPal -- so far as I know, Jimmy was the only one who had his PayPal account hit.

Interesting.

I'm not one to jump to conclusions in a case like this. But I do have a question: Would a random hacker take the time and care to make comments like Jimmy mentioned - about not doing low-carb anymore, and everyone needs carbs, etc.?

As if to discredit him? Or is this a common hacker practice?

Rose1271 · 04-10-2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

I got tired of the emails promising to enlarge my p&s

delurking to say this made me giggle...

04-09-2008, 09:18 PM	#185
samredman Junior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 39 Gallery: samredman WOE: intermittent	If anyone has the virus in quarantine (it would be in your virus trapping software) or if you have the offending email still in your email box, somehow you need to get that very important evidence to Jimmy. However, you don't want to just send it to him by forwarding email (you don't want to be sending a virus). Instead, contact him first and ask him to inquire of his security consultant if he (or she) would like to get it. If he does want it for investigation work, then they will be able to tell you how to handle it, so they can receive and examine it. The reason having that virus-laden email is important is because that virus will enable an investigative effort to discover where the personal information, which the virus was intending to be collecting from you, is going to be sent. I once had several viruses analyzed and I was able to track down the exact location of a hacking operation. In my situation, all I could do was turn that info over to an interpol-like task force investigating international cyber crime, because all of the data (in the one I discovered) was being sent to a location in Asia. But, in this case, those doing the Jimmy investigation would be one giant step closer to solving the mystery, if they knew where collected data was being sent. __________________ All my posts in one place: http://samredman.com/kimkinsposts

04-09-2008, 08:21 PM	#181
Magicsmom Committed to Succeed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emerald City Posts: 14,580 Gallery: Magicsmom Stats: 282/212.5/140 WOE: Seeing a nutritionist who believes in low carb! Start Date: Off & On (mostly on) since January 2004	I still haven't gotten it, not even in my spam folder. Maybe my virus detection killed it.

04-09-2008, 08:41 PM	#182
Nady Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 11,581 Gallery: Nady WOE: LC/No Grains Start Date: On & Off Since 1972	I got it~ it was in my hotmail spam folder~ I haven't posted more than a few times at Jimmy's and that was months ago~ tried to read there a couple of days ago~ got the error and site down message. Have no idea why I was one of the 'chosen ones' but I was never a member of KK~ ~~~N

04-10-2008, 06:09 AM	#189
knoxvegas Junior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 36 Gallery: knoxvegas	I got the email, and have not been to his site in weeks, BUT I too, always forget to "log out". Back to lurking

04-10-2008, 06:43 AM	#192
catzrule Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,384 Gallery: catzrule Stats: 160.4/139.6/135 (for now) (5'3") WOE: lower carb/lower fat Start Date: November 20, 2002	I noticed that too, Mom, but was trying to keep an open mind.

04-10-2008, 06:47 AM	#193
SydneyN Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 425 Gallery: SydneyN Stats: 345/328/130 WOE: Fruit Flush Start Date: June 16, 2008	I got the email, too. I never log out of his site, so I know I was still logged in. I completely deleted the email account it was sent to. That email account was mostly for health and weight loss issues. I have found it's simpler to divide up my email accounts into categories. This way, if I'm busy, I can just check the "important" ones. So all I really got at that address was health newsletters and stuff like that. Only friends and family get my "real" email. lol

04-10-2008, 07:13 AM	#194
Magicsmom Committed to Succeed Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Emerald City Posts: 14,580 Gallery: Magicsmom Stats: 282/212.5/140 WOE: Seeing a nutritionist who believes in low carb! Start Date: Off & On (mostly on) since January 2004	Well, I still haven't received the e-mail. It is very curious as to how it was decided that some members would get it, and some would not. The only thing I can figure out is that either my server detected the virus and didn't send it to me, or my anti-virus software deleted it as it was coming in. Either that, or I didn't get one at all.

04-10-2008, 07:21 AM	#195
Madam De Leon Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 509 Gallery: Madam De Leon	I didnt' get the blue mountain one. So either hotmail caught it and tossed it out, or it was only sent to specific people... or its' unrelated to this.... Or was it intended to look like it was sent from Jimmy's site?

04-10-2008, 07:29 AM	#200
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,364 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Magic, Many e-mail services will send a file like that right to the trash heap. I didn't get it even in my Spam folder. I also have some pretty decent filters set up so that I don't have to bother with some of that junk! I got tired of the emails promising to enlarge my p$n&s

04-10-2008, 07:53 AM	#202
catzrule Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,384 Gallery: catzrule Stats: 160.4/139.6/135 (for now) (5'3") WOE: lower carb/lower fat Start Date: November 20, 2002	Just curious, when is Singinglass' depo?

04-10-2008, 07:58 AM	#203
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,364 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	SydneyN! Do I "know" you from somewhere? I think I do. I hope I do. Anyway, we're glad to have you here and hope you will stick around!

04-10-2008, 08:05 AM	#206
rebel Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007