Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by mslilwatts

So can anyone tell me what to do then? This is the only thing I have ever in my life been able to lose weight doing.

Perhaps the first question to ask is what did you like about Kimkins? (At least the tweaked version that you did - other than the fact you lost some weight on it, because we're looking for a plan that's *healthy* for you this time around.)

Was it the food choices? They're pretty limited, but some people really do like strict limits.

Was it that there were not many veggies required? (Some people really don't like veggies)

If you can tell us exactly what you liked about it, then perhaps we can find a plan that will suit you, based on your dietary preferences.

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

your welcome Jeanessa. I love talking Atkins, just ask CLeo

I saw your post earlier in the intuction topic about not having the flu and wqs wondering if you had jinxed yourself. Feeling tired might be a symptom of some elctrolytes being off or it could just mean you need more food as your body is scrambling to make more power plants to burn fatty acids and create more carrier and helper molecules for transporting fatty acids to cells and startign to store more fatty acids in the muscle tissues for quicker energy next time they are worked on your low carb plan.

You know I am waiting for the icky feeling...and it just hasn't come yet. I am taking vitamins and supps this time, when I never did in the past. I am also eating more (or at least I am most of the time) Today, I'm not so sure, its my first day back at work since starting and I brought what I thought would be enough food, but, which might not be enough. I'm gonna fit-day it and see if lack of food might be the culprit of my tiredness.

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by mslilwatts

So can anyone tell me what to do then? This is the only thing I have ever in my life been able to lose weight doing.

When you were doing Atkins before, you might have overindulged and therefore were not successful. Anyone can lose weight by "starving with 800 calories", but then your metabolism is really, really messed up. When you lost weight on KK, you lost muscle along with the fat. This is not a good or healthy thing at all.You need your muscle to keep up your metabolism and to help you live a healthy life.

Do a really clean Induction. Watch your portions. Don't starve yourself. If you are eating 20 carbs a day, then watch your protein allotment..probably no more than 90 grams a day and be sure to get a good amount of healthy fats..coconut oil, olive oil, etc. Stay away from lots of bars and premade shakes. If you low carb, the only healthy way is to depend on fat (body/dietary) fat for energy.

[knoxvegas]

Out of lurk again~what do you all think is best? Atkins or DANDR? I have both books, and have read both. I am ready to start again, for good. Do you all know which Cleo followed? Thanks

[WildAngel6]

Gran To Angels Speaks Out Part One « Amy B : Food For Thought

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by knoxvegas

Out of lurk again~what do you all think is best? Atkins or DANDR? I have both books, and have read both. I am ready to start again, for good. Do you all know which Cleo followed? Thanks

DANDR is Atkins. DANDR = Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution.

Cleo is following Atkins 2002, which is the 2002 edition of DANDR.

The Lighter Side of Low-Carb: Everything you wanted to know about me, which is nothing really, but some people have asked...

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Gran To Angels Speaks Out Part One « Amy B : Food For Thought

OMG. I remember Gran and my heart aches for her.

Heidi, what you have sown so shall you reap.

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by mslilwatts

See I didn't exactly follow it like she says, I tweaked it to what worked for me. I didn't take laxatives and all that. I did eat cheese and stuff and ate a lot of veggies, I just tried to keep my calories around 8-900 a day. 20 g of carbs also from veggies. I never got into the exact kimkins thing. I'm reading what I can but there is a lot of things to get through Im guessing Lol.

mslilwatts - even 800 - 900 cals a day is on the low side.

I'm agreeing with the recommendations here. If you are medicating for the depression be sure to check with the doctor about that.

Take some time to learn more about the many options of low carb. It is a balance of things - but you shouldn't have to go so low on the calories, and you don't want to lose it too fast - as you can not only gain it back fast but the more you yo-yo the more damage you can cause to your metabolism.

Make a commitment to take it slow or as long as it takes, educate yourself as best you can, and track your progress. Also, were you exercising? If not, it really is beneficial for too many reasons.

It is work. Everyone is different and there are no magic numbers in stone (as far as the right amt of cals for you - I know nothing about you and wouldn't have a clue).

I started just over 3 weeks ago (with atkins) and I am down 7 pounds. The weather is just getting nice enough that I will be adding exercise and will probably pick up the pace. But I am not rushing it.

I've been rifling through all kinds of recipes and enjoying learning some new tricks.


I too lost with KK and lost over 60 and wound up gaining 30 back. I'm sure it would have all come back if I hadn't thrown out all of my larger clothes.

The problem with even suggesting KK is that Heidi/kimmer is not qualified to be giving diet advice. That diet is completely lacking enough nutrition to keep the body of getting deprived in some way. The recommended multivitamin is a joke.

Even if you didn't see any hair loss or recognize any of the other physical side effects, it doesn't mean your body was ok from it.

That's why it is very important for you to take the time to research the different plans and find one that comes closest to how you would like to eat.

Once you change it, it is no longer Kimkins. And that is a good thing.

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

You know I am waiting for the icky feeling...and it just hasn't come yet. I am taking vitamins and supps this time, when I never did in the past. I am also eating more (or at least I am most of the time) Today, I'm not so sure, its my first day back at work since starting and I brought what I thought would be enough food, but, which might not be enough. I'm gonna fit-day it and see if lack of food might be the culprit of my tiredness.

I'm rooting for you! Hang in there and you're gonna do great!

[CarolynF]

Praying for Gran and her upcoming surgery. Unfortunately, there may be others in the Kimpire who won't know the extent of the damage they have done to their bodies until it's too late. Please keep us posted on how she is doing, Amy.

[Amyb1569]

Ladies...
Today is a hard day for Gran..she is seeing the specialist to discuss her operation. This is a very scary time for her. As many know she let me blog about this...so if you can show her your support. I think she needs to know she did the right thing.

Next I also blogged today about a camp member. Odd findings today after some very harsh PM were sent to some of us over there. After seeing I was the main focus of them..I went searching...and guess what...

Take a look at my sec blog entry for the day...

The very person who has been bashing Philip non stop in my blog comments and having me do trash duty daily..she is at camp and does not speak english....Huh?

Go visit my blog..if ya wanna hear more.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Ladies...
Today is a hard day for Gran..she is seeing the specialist to discuss her operation. This is a very scary time for her. As many know she let me blog about this...so if you can show her your support. I think she needs to know she did the right thing.

Next I also blogged today about a camp member. Odd findings today after some very harsh PM were sent to some of us over there. After seeing I was the main focus of them..I went searching...and guess what...

Take a look at my sec blog entry for the day...

The very person who has been bashing Philip non stop in my blog comments and having me do trash duty daily..she is at camp and does not speak english....Huh?

Go visit my blog..if ya wanna hear more.

Hugs and prayers for Gran...

Thanks AmyB for keeping us updated with the new blog post:

So many names.. « Amy B : Food For Thought

[Amyb1569]

MB and Jo..
Are you almost here? lol

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by Amyb1569

MB and Jo..
Are you almost here? lol

Not yet...I think I might need to sell some blood for gas money

and Mayberry isn't finished packing the picnic basket.

[beachfires]

Originally Posted by jo2621

Not yet...I think I might need to sell some blood for gas money

BLOOD??? CRIPES...I had to sell my HOUSE just to put enough gas in my tank to get to WORK!!!!!

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by beachfires

BLOOD??? CRIPES...I had to sell my HOUSE just to put enough gas in my tank to get to WORK!!!!!

We aren't house selling distance from Amyb...

We are somewhere between blood and first born child selling
distance though

(except my first born child writes all of this for me.. right Amy?? winkwink--nudgenudge)

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Amyb1569

Go visit my blog..if ya wanna hear more.

Hi Amy I am days behind on blog posts of everyone, but I just commented about one of the people posting to you there on your blog.

Did you note their screen name- vatefairefoutrelol

I looked at it and thought if you break the name down into parts it reads:
va te faire foutre lol

va te faire foutre
It is a French expletive of “go “yourself”

and of course lol
Meaning to "laugh out loud."

Their comments on your blog all make since now.....I wonder who it could be?!?!?

[2big4mysize]

Jeanessa when you look at your fitday look at the reports section and click nutrtional needs section and check out your vits and minerals. May inductees are too low potassium which can cause tiredness. if your reports don't have potassium listed go to the goals section and click on all the vits and minerals you can pick any number for your ranges from 1 to infinity it doesn't matter as you want to see the number you had that day anyways.

off to read Amy's blog

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Okay, so, I am re-reading DANDR and wondering about moving on to OWL. So many people stay at Induction or Induction level carbs for the length of their weight loss. What do you all think is best? What happens when you move on to OWL?

I am not in a rush to lose weight. I just want to lose and be healthy, 1-2 pounds a week is fine with me.

Originally Posted by jeanessa

You know I am waiting for the icky feeling...and it just hasn't come yet. I am taking vitamins and supps this time, when I never did in the past. I am also eating more (or at least I am most of the time) Today, I'm not so sure, its my first day back at work since starting and I brought what I thought would be enough food, but, which might not be enough. I'm gonna fit-day it and see if lack of food might be the culprit of my tiredness.

Nessa please don't take this the wrong way--I admire you losing weight and wanting to get you blood sugars under control---but my concern is you aren't eating enough---I've looked at your fit day and see your BMR

you are taking in half of the calories you are expending each day---

have you read Regina's post about 5 simple rules---

she also has some posts buried in her blog about induction---really good info

also in trying to be helpful here--check out Bloodsugar 101 on her blog Jenny talks about those with "pre-diabetes" or type II who need to lose weight are having great success using Byetta--Jenny is also a member here(Blood Sugar 101)

[thetruthinhiding]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Hi Amy I am days behind on blog posts of everyone, but I just commented about one of the people posting to you there on your blog.

Did you note their screen name- vatefairefoutrelol

I looked at it and thought if you break the name down into parts it reads:
va te faire foutre lol

va te faire foutre
It is a French expletive of “go yourself”

and of course lol
Meaning to "laugh out loud."

Their comments on your blog all make since now.....I wonder who it could be?!?!?

That is Gary. lasttime4me, Admin at KK.

[Amyb1569]

So that Means Gary is at camp too..wow

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by jo2621

We aren't house selling distance from Amyb...

We are somewhere between blood and first born child selling
distance though

(except my first born child writes all of this for me.. right Amy?? winkwink--nudgenudge)

don't forget about picking me up!!!!!

[Nady]

Who is jazzygirl~ it that Heidi too, or (Oops~ maybe too harsh)~ paid mouthpiece
~~~N