Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16 - Page 3

MomToEli · 04-09-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanessa

Girl, I'm just playing with you!

You can feel however you want to about Jimmy, I just love to jump in and tell people that I like him, because I do!

Sure, Jeanessa ... you just walk around here looking for an excuse to use those little butterfly looking side arms in your avatar

Any update on my inquiry from earlier?

As for the Jimmy Moore thing ... things get curiouser and curiouser each day. Wht big event is pending now?

samredman · 04-09-2008, 09:47 AM

Jeanessa, very nicely, wrote:

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Sam, its the Active Lowcarber's forum. You can google to get the link.

Thanks, jeanessa. I went to that site (and registered... so I could search) and I found the posts by "Samuel." I must say, it's quite a compliment for me to be confused with that guy; he is quite level headed and fair-minded and has done some very good postings. That's not me, but I am happy to be confused with him.

Mayberryfan · 04-09-2008, 09:51 AM

Oh, I gotcha, Jeanessa. Just havin' a little fun!

Nady · 04-09-2008, 09:53 AM

Jimmy posted on his blog~

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While I don't have any specific proof yet about who is doing this obviously personal attack against me and the people who support me this week, I have my suspicions that it is related to a now infamous diet scam artist who has her reasons for wanting to come after me. Again, this is just a gut feeling, but I don't really know yet. All I do know is that person had access to my username and password at her web site and made the connection to my forum, PayPal account, and e-mail account. I have since changed all my passwords everywhere.

If she really did this, she really is toast~

~~~N

daisyrat · 04-09-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nady

Jimmy posted on his blog~
If she really did this, she really is toast~

~~~N

She sure is. Especially since it crosses state lines and involves bank/money stuff. That's federal, baby!

Barbara B · 04-09-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Jimmy Moore's Livin' La Vida Low-Carb™ Blog: Aggressive Hacker Attack On My Forum, PayPal, And E-mail Is Obviously Personal

Seems Heidi is on the warpath again. I guess her rage got the better of her. Jimmy's troubles started on Monday and on Tues., CrispyBread made her appearance.

Mariasol · 04-09-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samredman

Jeanessa, very nicely, wrote:

Thanks, jeanessa. I went to that site (and registered... so I could search) and I found the posts by "Samuel." I must say, it's quite a compliment for me to be confused with that guy; he is quite level headed and fair-minded and has done some very good postings. That's not me, but I am happy to be confused with him.

Prudentia has some more questions for you.

jeanessa · 04-09-2008, 10:05 AM

Some people have opened the email from Jimmy's forum and have asked me about what to do. Here's the best answer I have.

From the Stanford University website:

Email virus precautions

Email viruses are small programs that hide in attachments to email. If you open the attachment, the virus will then run on your computer and install itself. Sometimes there is a bug in the email program that allows the virus to install itself even if you don't open the attachment! Once installed, the virus program will cause all kinds of mischief.

First, the virus will typically try to propagate itself by using your computer to send more copies of itself to every email address it finds on your system. Email viruses generally use a false return address so you cannot tell where they originated.

Second, most viruses also install a "backdoor" program to let a hacker take control of your computer and use it to attack other computers. In some cases, they may also delete or corrupt files on your computer.

A third common virus activity is to turn your PC into an email relay for "spam" (junk email), so complaints about the spam will go to you, not the spammer!

So far, email viruses have been a problem only on personal computers that run some version of Microsoft Windows, and particularly on those that use Microsoft's Outlook or Outlook Express email programs.

The design and configuration of Unix on pangea prevents email viruses from running if you login directly to pangea and run pine to read your email. So far, there have been no email viruses designed for the Macintosh operating system. However, this could change, so the precautions below are also recommended for Macintosh users.

Email viruses spread by two basic methods:

The mail message tries to trick you into opening the attachment containing the virus (thus running it) by, for example, pretending to be some document or photo that would be of interest to you.

The virus writer exploits a vulnerability in the mail reader program or operating system so that his virus program will run when the email is downloaded to your computer, without requiring any action on your part.
The second method is far more dangerous, but also less common.

Install and use anti-virus software
Many email servers, including pangea and the Stanford University central servers, implement virus checking on the server. Known email viruses are removed from mail that passes through the server, so they never reach your computer.

You should also install and use anti-virus software directly on your PC, particularly if you connect to multiple email servers, some of which may not implement virus checking. Such anti-virus software will also offer protection against known malicious programs that spread by methods other than email, such as "internet worms".

A properly configured anti-virus program, whether on the server or your PC, will intercept and deactivate any known email virus that is contained in the email you receive. New email viruses seem to be released every day, and they can spread for hours or days before the anti-virus companies learn how to recognize them and update their software to find and remove them. You could be infected by a new virus before your anti-virus program is able to recognize it.

Don't open unexpected attachments
The second line of defense is simple: Don't open unexpected email attachments. The main way email viruses spread is by tricking you into opening the attachment containing the virus.

Please resist the urge to open the latest "funny photo" that appears to be from your friend, or the unexpected "spreadsheet" that is supposedly sent for your comments. Check with the supposed sender first that these are legitimate.

Remember that email viruses falsify the return address so a virus file sent from one computer could appear to be from someone else on another computer.

If you opened the attachment from Jimmy's forum, update your anti-virus software and run it immediately. Also, google search 1.) Spybot Search and Destroy and 2.) Adaware to download keylogging and other spyware detection software, which run in a similar manner to anti-virus software

Nady · 04-09-2008, 10:07 AM

And it's not like you can hide your tracks on the Internet~ I think deliberately sending a virus in an email has penalities also~
~~~N

Mayberryfan · 04-09-2008, 10:16 AM

Let's hope so, Nady.

Hey, wait a second! Kimmer couldn't have sent that virus or attacked Jimmy's websites. She doesn't know squat about computers, remember?

SydneyN · 04-09-2008, 10:18 AM

I think Jimmy's suspicions might be right. When I logged on this morning (when it was showing up as a drug forum

) it showed that Christin was online. She can tell us if that was her, but my guess is it might have been someone who had access to her password at another site. Just speculating.

No matter how badly you want a site shut down (I'm sure we can all think of at leat one that we would like to see gone) it is so wrong to do what this hacker did. And to hack Jimmy's emails and paypal on top of it.

SydneyN · 04-09-2008, 10:20 AM

And by the way, I have been following this forum since it began. It's been quite a ride! Thanks to all of you for your hard work. Back to lurking.

Katinsac · 04-09-2008, 10:23 AM

Yeah, but her uninvolved son (Brandon) does!! lol

samredman · 04-09-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooter

But the actual thought of someone wanting to make money off this.

I have identified that underlying sentiment in much of the posting motivation on many boards (about many topics). A lot of people just don't want to see anyone else making any money (how they justify earning their own living expense money remains a mystery). If that philosophy was followed, we just wouldn't see any media coverage or books written on any distasteful subject (some people actually respectably pay their bills by creating interesting compositions on controversial topics). Of course, even this board (lowcarbfriends) is "making money" off of this without shame, as is every anti-kimkins blog with google ads and, of course, I am certain the law firm hopes to make money "off" of it, unless you are telling me that the altruistic attorney on the case has agreed to waive his fees. Not very likely.

WildAngel6 · 04-09-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SydneyN

And by the way, I have been following this forum since it began. It's been quite a ride! Thanks to all of you for your hard work. Back to lurking.

SydneyN (and all our other visitors too! Since Jimmy's is down, I do hope we can help keep you all company until your own place is back up and running again.)

Don't lurk too much, SydneyN! What makes this thread so special is EVERYONE's input.

Nady · 04-09-2008, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samredman

I have identified that underlying sentiment in much of the posting motivation on many boards (about many topics). A lot of people just don't want to see anyone else making any money (how they justify earning their own living expense money remains a mystery). If that philosophy was followed, we just wouldn't see any media coverage or books written on any distasteful subject (some people actually respectably pay their bills by creating interesting compositions on controversial topics). Of course, even this board (lowcarbfriends) is "making money" off of this without shame, as is every anti-kimkins blog with google ads and, of course, I am certain the law firm hopes to make money "off" of it, unless you are telling me that the altruistic attorney on the case has agreed to waive his fees. Not very likely.

Give you that point~ if the television stations that did Kimkins diet scam episodes didn't think they'd make money from the story, there would have been no media coverage.
~~~N

Mayberryfan · 04-09-2008, 10:37 AM

I think we can all agree that making money is a good thing, just so long as it's done honestly.

justme08 · 04-09-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nady

Give you that point~ if the television stations that did Kimkins diet scam episodes didn't think they'd make money from the story, there would have been no media coverage.
~~~N

TV thrives on this sort of thing - it is what the whole world seems to be waiting for, the next sensational, real life story. and the more loaded with attacks, misery and suffering the better. You Duckies might be famous some day.

cleochatra · 04-09-2008, 10:54 AM

There is nothing wrong with making money through honesty and integrity. To tell people you're a size 4 and to follow your lead (and to give you money) when you're really closer to a 34 is obviously in bad form. As a writer, I am paid for my work. What if I stole the work of others and was paid?

People make money all of the time, but when money is changing hands under false pretenses... no no no.

wifezilla · 04-09-2008, 11:22 AM

I got the Jimmy email. I saw the .exe file and thought "oh oh".

Good thing I have a Mac

samredman · 04-09-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleochatra

There is nothing wrong with making money through honesty and integrity. To tell people you're a size 4 and to follow your lead (and to give you money) when you're really closer to a 34 is obviously in bad form. As a writer, I am paid for my work. What if I stole the work of others and was paid?

People make money all of the time, but when money is changing hands under false pretenses... no no no.

We are in perfect agreement.

Mayberryfan · 04-09-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleochatra There is nothing wrong with making money through honesty and integrity. To tell people you're a size 4 and to follow your lead (and to give you money) when you're really closer to a 34 is obviously in bad form. As a writer, I am paid for my work. What if I stole the work of others and was paid?

People make money all of the time, but when money is changing hands under false pretenses... no no no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by samredman

We are in perfect agreement.

Cleo,

Go ahead and heave that sigh of RELIEF!

MissMerize · 04-09-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifezilla

I got the Jimmy email. I saw the .exe file and thought "oh oh".

Good thing I have a Mac

Awakened · 04-09-2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifezilla

I got the Jimmy email. I saw the .exe file and thought "oh oh".

Good thing I have a Mac

Jimmy has a Mac too as far as I know.

I'm one of the dumb ones who clicked on it, but instead of taking me to a page my security thing asked me if I wanted to run or save, so I clicked cancel. I"m running a scan now.. but do you all think I'm okay since I didn't open it all the way???

Mayberryfan · 04-09-2008, 11:45 AM

You should be okay, Deni.

But, it's a good idea to run the scan. Can't hurt to do that!

MissMerize · 04-09-2008, 11:46 AM

The problem won't be Jimmy's computer - it will stem from his site which will be on a server. My computer does not recognize or open EXE files.

If he was using the same password for a lot of things, that could have got him in trouble.

I have a small composition notebook (the real mini size) where I have different passwords for everything.

If I lost this little book I'd be crying for months.

It is uncertain at this time why or who did the hacking. I do feel for him, I'd be really annoyed.

04-09-2008, 10:05 AM	#68
jeanessa Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Great Lakes State Posts: 565 Gallery: jeanessa Stats: 289.6/289.6/??? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 4/19/08	For those of you who clicked the link from Jimmy's forum Some people have opened the email from Jimmy's forum and have asked me about what to do. Here's the best answer I have. From the Stanford University website: Email virus precautions Email viruses are small programs that hide in attachments to email. If you open the attachment, the virus will then run on your computer and install itself. Sometimes there is a bug in the email program that allows the virus to install itself even if you don't open the attachment! Once installed, the virus program will cause all kinds of mischief. First, the virus will typically try to propagate itself by using your computer to send more copies of itself to every email address it finds on your system. Email viruses generally use a false return address so you cannot tell where they originated. Second, most viruses also install a "backdoor" program to let a hacker take control of your computer and use it to attack other computers. In some cases, they may also delete or corrupt files on your computer. A third common virus activity is to turn your PC into an email relay for "spam" (junk email), so complaints about the spam will go to you, not the spammer! So far, email viruses have been a problem only on personal computers that run some version of Microsoft Windows, and particularly on those that use Microsoft's Outlook or Outlook Express email programs. The design and configuration of Unix on pangea prevents email viruses from running if you login directly to pangea and run pine to read your email. So far, there have been no email viruses designed for the Macintosh operating system. However, this could change, so the precautions below are also recommended for Macintosh users. Email viruses spread by two basic methods: The mail message tries to trick you into opening the attachment containing the virus (thus running it) by, for example, pretending to be some document or photo that would be of interest to you. The virus writer exploits a vulnerability in the mail reader program or operating system so that his virus program will run when the email is downloaded to your computer, without requiring any action on your part. The second method is far more dangerous, but also less common. Install and use anti-virus software Many email servers, including pangea and the Stanford University central servers, implement virus checking on the server. Known email viruses are removed from mail that passes through the server, so they never reach your computer. You should also install and use anti-virus software directly on your PC, particularly if you connect to multiple email servers, some of which may not implement virus checking. Such anti-virus software will also offer protection against known malicious programs that spread by methods other than email, such as "internet worms". A properly configured anti-virus program, whether on the server or your PC, will intercept and deactivate any known email virus that is contained in the email you receive. New email viruses seem to be released every day, and they can spread for hours or days before the anti-virus companies learn how to recognize them and update their software to find and remove them. You could be infected by a new virus before your anti-virus program is able to recognize it. Don't open unexpected attachments The second line of defense is simple: Don't open unexpected email attachments. The main way email viruses spread is by tricking you into opening the attachment containing the virus. Please resist the urge to open the latest "funny photo" that appears to be from your friend, or the unexpected "spreadsheet" that is supposedly sent for your comments. Check with the supposed sender first that these are legitimate. Remember that email viruses falsify the return address so a virus file sent from one computer could appear to be from someone else on another computer. If you opened the attachment from Jimmy's forum, update your anti-virus software and run it immediately. Also, google search 1.) Spybot Search and Destroy and 2.) Adaware to download keylogging and other spyware detection software, which run in a similar manner to anti-virus software __________________ My Personal Blog Big is Beautiful Join the fight to stop the fraud! Kimkins Lawsuit Once you go quack, you never go back! Last edited by jeanessa : 04-09-2008 at 10:25 AM.

04-09-2008, 09:51 AM	#63
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,349 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Oh, I gotcha, Jeanessa. Just havin' a little fun!

04-09-2008, 10:07 AM	#69
Nady Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 11,564 Gallery: Nady WOE: LC/No Grains Start Date: On & Off Since 1972	And it's not like you can hide your tracks on the Internet~ I think deliberately sending a virus in an email has penalities also~ ~~~N

04-09-2008, 10:16 AM	#70
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,349 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Let's hope so, Nady. Hey, wait a second! Kimmer couldn't have sent that virus or attacked Jimmy's websites. She doesn't know squat about computers, remember?

04-09-2008, 10:18 AM	#71
SydneyN Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 425 Gallery: SydneyN Stats: 345/328/130 WOE: Fruit Flush Start Date: June 16, 2008	I think Jimmy's suspicions might be right. When I logged on this morning (when it was showing up as a drug forum ) it showed that Christin was online. She can tell us if that was her, but my guess is it might have been someone who had access to her password at another site. Just speculating. No matter how badly you want a site shut down (I'm sure we can all think of at leat one that we would like to see gone) it is so wrong to do what this hacker did. And to hack Jimmy's emails and paypal on top of it.

04-09-2008, 10:20 AM	#72
SydneyN Senior LCF Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 425 Gallery: SydneyN Stats: 345/328/130 WOE: Fruit Flush Start Date: June 16, 2008	And by the way, I have been following this forum since it began. It's been quite a ride! Thanks to all of you for your hard work. Back to lurking.

04-09-2008, 10:23 AM	#73
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Yeah, but her uninvolved son (Brandon) does!! lol

04-09-2008, 10:37 AM	#77
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,349 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	I think we can all agree that making money is a good thing, just so long as it's done honestly.

04-09-2008, 10:54 AM	#79
cleochatra Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 7,152 Gallery: cleochatra Stats: 350/264/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: January 1, 2008	There is nothing wrong with making money through honesty and integrity. To tell people you're a size 4 and to follow your lead (and to give you money) when you're really closer to a 34 is obviously in bad form. As a writer, I am paid for my work. What if I stole the work of others and was paid? People make money all of the time, but when money is changing hands under false pretenses... no no no.

04-09-2008, 11:22 AM	#80
wifezilla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 3,839 Gallery: wifezilla Stats: 250/210/190 WOE: Read em all. Doing it my way. Start Date: May 2007	I got the Jimmy email. I saw the .exe file and thought "oh oh". Good thing I have a Mac

04-09-2008, 11:45 AM	#85
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,349 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	You should be okay, Deni. But, it's a good idea to run the scan. Can't hurt to do that!

04-09-2008, 11:46 AM	#86
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,145 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	The problem won't be Jimmy's computer - it will stem from his site which will be on a server. My computer does not recognize or open EXE files. If he was using the same password for a lot of things, that could have got him in trouble. I have a small composition notebook (the real mini size) where I have different passwords for everything. If I lost this little book I'd be crying for months. It is uncertain at this time why or who did the hacking. I do feel for him, I'd be really annoyed.