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Old 03-15-2008, 09:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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okay. i guess i will be first to post on this new thread because the other I posted my question on was closed? a little confused. Please look at my question and let me know if you all have already seen sl's web page. sorry if i am bothering.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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okay. i guess i will be first to post on this new thread because the other I posted my question on was closed? a little confused. Please look at my question and let me know if you all have already seen sl's web page. sorry if i am bothering.
Maybe you can repost the info you came across in this new thread? It might be too important to leave behind.

I haven't seen this page you're talking about and don't remember it being discussed, so there might be some important clues for the ducks.

And you aren't bothering. I think most of the main folks are either out or already gone to bed.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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okay.

the web url is

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sorry, i don't know how to link it, does someone else know how to do that?
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oh, i guess it linked just typing the address in? so never mind on someone else figuring it out.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sina,
I don't recall seeing this in our threads before so thanks for the find!

It's possible that it's her singing, lot's of internally ugly people have outward talent, kwim?

I guess her pretend world Havenlore went by the way of kimmerville. They just couldn't sustain all of the fiction!

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Old 03-15-2008, 10:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i was afraid it would just be something you all saw a long time ago. i have't been able to read everything, there is so much, sorry. baby keeps me busy.

i don't know if it was her singing. you would think if she could sing like that she would be off somewhere raking in bucks, not be over at kimkins. i know i would be trying to anyway, like american idol or something. i can't tell if they are all the same voice? the last won kind of gave wierd chills though. is there a bride site for opera singers she got the files from? rofl.

i didn't understand the havenlore stuff?

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Old 03-15-2008, 10:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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wow, #15 now?

i have much to catch up on...

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okay.

the web url is

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sorry, i don't know how to link it, does someone else know how to do that?
You made a link.
That's a page that was found a while back. I don't remember all the pictures being on it back then (but they may have been) but the songs were. I can't get them to play, for some reason.
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i was afraid it would just be something you all saw a long time ago. i have't been able to read everything, there is so much, sorry. baby keeps me busy.

i don't know if it was her singing. you would think if she could sing like that she would be off somewhere raking in bucks, not be over at kimkins. i know i would be trying to anyway, like american idol or something. i can't tell if they are all the same voice? the last won kind of gave wierd chills though. is there a bride site for opera singers she got the files from? rofl.

i didn't understand the havenlore stuff?
I would guess that she's been off the stage for awhile due to her health problems, then because of gaining so much weight. Too bad she chose to spend her off-time at the Kimpound.
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Meh. Wannabe opera singers are a dime a dozen. Seriously. If she were up to snuff, she'd already BE on tour, with a group.
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oh, sorry if it is old news. i wasn't sure. is seemed interesting though and she looks different and smaller in those theater pictures. i think some look like they came from newspaper maybe? i don't think whoever is singing in those files sounds like a wannabe, they sould like a real opera singer with all the really high high notes and different langauges, i just don't think it is really sl. do the files sound like a different person in some of them to anyone else to?
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I'm so confused and disheartened

Well, I have hung in here for a long time now, but I am really feeling disheartened. The whole thing with Morgan and Yucky, what Medusa posted on her blog - I'm sorry, but it is a bit much for me. I thought the blogs were all wonderful, then it seemed like they could be a negative force as well as a postive one. I can't say I go a long way back, but I have read Morgan's profile on her blog - have any of you done this? Or do you care? She is a very accomplished, intelligent person. And, I do not think, a mean or uncaring one.

And I like Yucky, too, but in your memory, can't you remember some boners that Yucky has done? Like when the implication was that Yucky's site had been stolen, or whatever the name is?

Yucky has had us all going for DAYS on faulty presumptions, especially since Jimmy seemed to have the same problems at the same time?

I have NOTHING against Yucky. I am just pointing out that Mimi is not ALWAYS right.

Neither am I. That is why I commented at Yucky's sight. Right now, though, I am disgusted, depleted, and sad about all this crap happening. Is this more important than bringing Kimmer in? I doubt it. I don't even know if I want to come here anymore or spend countless hours of my time pulling weeds, etc.

I initially comforted Yucky because, like many others, fool am I, I only had tidbits of info. Well, that has taught me a lesson. Go back and check facts!

This really was a despicable happening. I think it hurt us more than it helped us. Sorry - just the way I feel. And if you all want me to take myself away from here, that would be FINE. There are a number of you who I SO liked and respect, but, damn, this has taken up my life and work hours for so long, if you want me to go, Hell! I will glady do it.

I STILL think we are doing ourselves harm to get into this crap!
Yucky, stop it already! To do so much good work and then squash it with this crap is really idiocy! Do not do this! I am still a fan of yours, but please, stop this idiocy!

Okay - now you can all ignore or ban me. But I had to say it. And based on how many of you castigate me, I'll just go bye-bye. This has all just been TOO painful. I thought we were all together here.
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Barbara..hang in there girl...this too will pass.

I get the impression Yucky and Morgan have had an ongoing battle. this is their problem, not ours. I think it is all pretty childish though. I did it first, no I did it first....who cares? I remember when I found one of the Russian brides at the same time as someone else and they got the credit...so what! the point is it was found! I think peoples egos get in the way here. Yucky and Morgan need to work this out behind the scenes, not in public and not getting others involved. There is always more to the story than people know and when emotions get involved, it can cause problems.

We are here to find stuff on Kimmer, etc. Who cares who finds what? The purpose is to find it and share it with John. So all you people with the big egos trying to get kudos for what you did....get over it! It doesn't matter! Just do the great research your have been doing and share the info...
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Bravo, Kat!!! That is what I was trying to say yesterday.

Barbara B, you are not off in your memory of Yucky's escapades. For someone who wants to operate a "fake blog", she certainly wants us to take her seriously.

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BarbaraB, Don't Leave Us! We need you. Bringing Kimmer down is so much more important than this bickering about who said "I" instead of saying "we." As my brother always tells me when I get on a rant -- "GET OVER IT!" I'm sure Heidi is getting a really sick thrill out of it all.

Like Kat said, I think there is more going on here than meets the eye, but they need to duke it out in private.


Kat - I didn't realize you said "Get Over It," too. LOL That's what I get for not reading all of your post. I'm giving you credit because you said it first. Please, pretty please, don't be mad at me.

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Barbara B...no need to go anywhere. you have just as much as right as anyone to share your opinion on things here.

i finally got caught up on this latest drama this morning...and well, the whole situation is just incredibly unfortunate for all involved. there's so much more going on than could and should be made public and it would all be better handled more privately, IMO.
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Barbara..hang in there girl...this too will pass.

I get the impression Yucky and Morgan have had an ongoing battle. this is their problem, not ours. I think it is all pretty childish though. I did it first, no I did it first....who cares? I remember when I found one of the Russian brides at the same time as someone else and they got the credit...so what! the point is it was found! I think peoples egos get in the way here. Yucky and Morgan need to work this out behind the scenes, not in public and not getting others involved. There is always more to the story than people know and when emotions get involved, it can cause problems.

We are here to find stuff on Kimmer, etc. Who cares who finds what? The purpose is to find it and share it with John. So all you people with the big egos trying to get kudos for what you did....get over it! It doesn't matter! Just do the great research your have been doing and share the info...
Oh, Kat, you are so true! What do we care about who found what? What difference does it make?

We are not trying to make a show here! For god's sake, all we want to do is uncover Heidi's stuff.

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Honestly. This issue with Morgan/Yucky--what does it matter, in the large scheme of things? I'm not saying that to be snarky, I'm just really confused, here. Is someone jockeying for position for book rights? (I'm just kidding!)
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Thanks to you all!

Okay, I am sorry and am over my rant. I don't think I could pull myself away anyway! You all are TOO enticing!

It's just that I am very disheartened when I see people on this board against each other. Come one, folks, could you PLEASE leave your egos at the door?

I did this - I did THAT. BIG DEAL! Have any of you ANY idea of how many of us have done tremendous things without reporting it al ALL?


Probably not. GET OVER IT!

Why does everyone need recognition for all that they did? I am sorry, but, I just don't GET IT!.

Get yourselves, people.
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Like all families who spend time together, there are bound to be disagreements. This doesn't mean that we aren't still a family; nor does it mean that we won't be able to continue to work together. It just means that we are human and these things can and do happen from time to time.

Probably, the best thing to do is to let Morgan and Yucky work things out for themselves privately and for the rest of us to move on and get refocused to the job at hand.

Dwelling on the disagreement will only give Heidi something to smile about. We don't want or need that. We need to let go of the hurtful things; show patience with each other and understanding that there is a certain amount of stress involved with dealing with something like this on an extended basis; take a deep breath; smooth the ruffled duck feathers; and get back to work.

Thank you EVERYONE for all your efforts toward bringing Kimkins down. We really are a great team. I am very proud to be working with you all!

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I just wanted to clear one thing up here.. well, I'd like to clear a lot of things up, but that would involve book length posts, lol.

I never, ever meant my answer to the question about Heidi being a foster parent to be seen as taking credit for it or bragging about it. I was answering a question with the knowledge that I had, that is all.

I did not know about the blog posts until I read about them here. I was pretty astounded and hurt by them, not to mention a little angry!

I'm not trying to argue about who did what first or anything, but when called to task like that, I'm sure as heck going to defend myself, as anyone would! No one likes being called a liar - its hateful and hurtful and I can't just sit by and let them call me that without speaking up. I hope that makes sense.

I'm not in this for the attention. For a very long time I didn't even take credit for MY OWN anti-K blog simply because I didn't want any attention. I wanted to stay under the radar as it were.

The two bloggers in question though decided to drag me through the mud and it ended up here - not of my own doing. It's as over as it's going to be now though - or at the very least I will not be responding to any more of their comments. They can keep it going if they want to, lol.

I will continue to keep doing what I've been doing to fight Kimkins and I'm going to try very hard to ignore this personal vendetta BS against me. It's not easy though!

So to Barbara and everyone, please forgive me for even discussing this here and please understand that I am not now or have I ever tried to play the attention seeking game. I'm not really feeling so great about all of this myself.. its no fun to try to be working on a cause and then have your own agenda questioned and have others post hateful things about you - especially when those things are wrong.

But I'm not going away... there is still work to be done - that website is still up so the fight is not over yet! I can wash off a little mud - Heidi won't be able to wash off her orange jumpsuit. lol
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hhmm...
Now that I'm thinking about it, has money or book rights actually been discussed? Perhaps that really is the reason for this latest p122ing contest.
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Update from the Kimpound

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There is a plethora of not the "regular" user names popping up with advise. Again.

Going back and looking at the profiles, most joined last year and maybe posted few and disappeared. Well, they all have the same standard "I'm back" tag lines and they all have the same basic stories.

I guess there must have been a sale and Heidi restocked or should I say "resocked" her membership.


#2 "Gary" posted this today to someone who was having trouble with naysayers

"You really do not have to say ANYTHING to the naysayers.....PROVE THEM WRONG! I have kept my weight off for almost 5 months....
I have a few carbs here and there and do not go over 60 a day and it is working.......that is 2 times what I was having while losing weight. Most days....it is only 30-50 carbs and I am happy and do not miss those high carb poison foods I used to eat.

This is a life_style_ change and not a change for a few months and then go back to your old eating habits. If you do, you will gain your weight back. That is the mistake most people make....they say "I am at goal and now I can eat anything." It does not work that way. I learn everyday what I can and can not eat.....and just chose the foods that will not put weight on...there are so many!"


Hey "Gary" We know you read this. You need to follow your own advise.

Dude, I am calling you out on this one. YOU have absolutely no credibitiy at all just like Heidi. Anybody can SAY they lost 106 pounds and have kept it off for 5 months. I for one don't believe you. You can say anything you want and unless you pony up some hard evidence you are just another Russian Bride. It's called credible evidence bubba.

The people still at KK and all of us naysayers NEED to see your BEFORE AND AFTERS. We need proof. You owe people that.

You , O great maintaining and inspirational guru need to get over what ever it is that made you take your photos off in the first place and prove to us you aren't one of Heidi's socks. Why aren't you on the front page if you're so damn proud of all your hard work?

Come on, put up or shut up.
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