Why the fascination with Kimmer? #15

[BamaGal]

my response in blue....

Another Kimkins SAT Essay/Mathematics Question

Base your answer on this "what are you eating for breakfast?" post from Kimmer today

"I'm sipping a 100 calorie EAS shake now and I'll be making a 1 egg + 1 egg white veggie & ricotta omelette around 10 am (it's 6:30 am right now)."


A diet guru has been back on plan for approximately 21 weeks. She claims to have been at 317 pounds when she started. She states in her journal that she "lost 23 pounds" in the first two weeks. 19 weeks have since elapsed and she claims to be at 258 lbs.

Questions:
1. What is her weekly average for pounds lost and is this in line with her own claims that her diet will accomplish?
well to see my work you need to come look inside my head but for all weeks the average is 3.1 pounds.
remove the first 2 weeks and it is 1.89 pounds per week

didn't she claim a pound a day?

agree!!! she could actually be eating and lose that much

Oh and as an added bonus Cleo is down 61 pounds in 11 weeks on Atkins for a cool 5.5 pounds a week and her weigh ins are done at TOPS in front of real witnesses.

WTG!!! CLEO!!! and she eats great and still losing.....


2. If she is eating like the above post states and she indeed "wants it bad enough" why aren't the losses reflective of it?

because that is just the breakfast menu silly and no beverages are shown

she ain't eating like that---that's why

Heidi will have her excuses ready that's for sure---her thyroid is shot, her diabetes, all this stress......

3. Given these statistics what is your estimate of the percentage of the population will still swallow the hook and join the program?

Well according to PT Barnum there is a sucker born every minute and if all those suckers are over weight, and if all are looking for a diet ,and all those suckers have access to a means to send her the ask for money and if those suckers can find the kimkins.con site ( another reason to remove any backlinks on anybody's site) ........ well

as long as women AND men buy into the nonsense that they are nothing unless they are thin, someone will still join regardless of the controversy


4. Bonus question: Why does the diet expert not feel the need to post her measurements in the challenge threads she posts in when all other members of challenges do so? she can't add that many big numbers together and keep it straight each time how many imaginary photoshopped inches she took off.

SHE AIN'T LOSING NOTHING THAT'S WHY!!!

Feel free to add facts and opinions and please show your work.

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way. My sister lives in Vegas and I have honestly thought about packing my camera and going to visit my sister on those dates! I still might do it

There has already been talk over there of them being bothered and harrassed while they are there.

Also everytime somebody says they are going to make reservations, Heidi will say something like I'll wait until closer to time...the prices will be better etc... There was also talk of making sure the reservations were with a credit card so they could be refundable.

Easy outs...ain't gonna happen

[vernswifevickie]

Originally Posted by jo2621

There has already been talk over there of them being bothered and harrassed while they are there.

Also everytime somebody says they are going to make reservations, Heidi will say something like I'll wait until closer to time...the prices will be better etc... There was also talk of making sure the reservations were with a credit card so they could be refundable.

Easy outs...ain't gonna happen

I agree that it's probably not going to happen. If I did go I wouldn't harrass them, I'd just take lots of photos. I'd hide behind a cabana boy so they wouldn't see me...LOL

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by imjoyful

Oh, my goodness... I'm a few days back in reading but I just watched the video. You know, I thought I was over it.. I thought that I had moved past the hurt, the anger, the horrible out of control feelings that I had when I stopped KK. Watching that video put me in such a state... I am now sitting with a half-empty bag of M&Ms in front of me. The BIG bag, y'all. Oh I am so sick now and so mad at myself for doing that! But I didn't even realize I was doing it...

back to lurking and reading... and hopefully not getting TOO sick because of what I did!
WOW that's SO not me anymore...

hope you have smashed and flushed that bag so you will not have a relapse again. Emotionall eating is tough to conquore cause you can't like an alcoholic or drug addict just never have any food again. letting the tiger out of the cage and putting it back unharmed is impossible so the trick it to never let the one named emotional out of the cage and just allow the nutrtional tigers out and back in each day. Some days they might scratch you too but nothing like that one named emotional.

it is hard to accept food is a drug for many of us ( yep many foods contain pharmocological properties just like drugs do), but once you do then you can take steps you need to to keep that drug from being your primary means of treating your emotional hurts and that is when you will start winning the body fat battle.

So post away and let that anger, and hurt you got out here in a very safe manner.

[vernswifevickie]

By the way Jo, I forgot to say...I love your sense of humor. Your posts crack me up so often!

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

I agree that it's probably not going to happen. If I did go I wouldn't harrass them, I'd just take lots of photos. I'd hide behind a cabana boy so they wouldn't see me...LOL

They are trying to decide on T-shirt logos. Most of the gals wanted a big flashy logo front and back. Heidi squashed those ideas and wanted something small (read unnoticeable) in the upper corner of a shirt.

I thought she was soooo proud of her plan? If it's so great and it works and all these people to include herself are so dang happy and healthy, she should want everyone to know...shouldn't she?

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

By the way Jo, I forgot to say...I love your sense of humor. Your posts crack me up so often!

Thanks Vickie...I was over there same time you were. I stopped posting in November after my good sense finally caught up with me.

When I got over the absolute rage I felt I decided that laughing about it is probably the best medicine. I still get ticked every once in a while though

imjoyful I'm right there with ya...let me know if you want to talk about it

[2big4mysize]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

my response in blue....

Another Kimkins SAT Essay/Mathematics Question

Base your answer on this "what are you eating for breakfast?" post from Kimmer today

"I'm sipping a 100 calorie EAS shake now and I'll be making a 1 egg + 1 egg white veggie & ricotta omelette around 10 am (it's 6:30 am right now)."


A diet guru has been back on plan for approximately 21 weeks. She claims to have been at 317 pounds when she started. She states in her journal that she "lost 23 pounds" in the first two weeks. 19 weeks have since elapsed and she claims to be at 258 lbs.

Questions:
1. What is her weekly average for pounds lost and is this in line with her own claims that her diet will accomplish?
well to see my work you need to come look inside my head but for all weeks the average is 3.1 pounds.
remove the first 2 weeks and it is 1.89 pounds per week

didn't she claim a pound a day?

agree!!! she could actually be eating and lose that much

Oh and as an added bonus Cleo is down 61 pounds in 11 weeks on Atkins for a cool 5.5 pounds a week and her weigh ins are done at TOPS in front of real witnesses.

WTG!!! CLEO!!! and she eats great and still losing.....


2. If she is eating like the above post states and she indeed "wants it bad enough" why aren't the losses reflective of it?

because that is just the breakfast menu silly and no beverages are shown

she ain't eating like that---that's why

Heidi will have her excuses ready that's for sure---her thyroid is shot, her diabetes, all this stress......

3. Given these statistics what is your estimate of the percentage of the population will still swallow the hook and join the program?

Well according to PT Barnum there is a sucker born every minute and if all those suckers are over weight, and if all are looking for a diet ,and all those suckers have access to a means to send her the ask for money and if those suckers can find the kimkins.con site ( another reason to remove any backlinks on anybody's site) ........ well

as long as women AND men buy into the nonsense that they are nothing unless they are thin, someone will still join regardless of the controversy


4. Bonus question: Why does the diet expert not feel the need to post her measurements in the challenge threads she posts in when all other members of challenges do so? she can't add that many big numbers together and keep it straight each time how many imaginary photoshopped inches she took off.

SHE AIN'T LOSING NOTHING THAT'S WHY!!!

Feel free to add facts and opinions and please show your work.

hey no fair using my answers.

can't you just see kimmer's blog post now duck cheated on her kimmer SAT

[Mayberryfan]

Wanted to pop in and share a quick, delicous recipe I just made up for beef soup.

The following makes two hearty servings
1 can of Hormel Roast beef
1.5 - 2 cups water or beef broth
a splash or three of red wine (merlot, my fav) (optional)
1 T of butter or olive oil
4-5 oz of frozen whole baby green beans
small onion, chopped
1/4 cup shredded carrots
minced or powdered garlic to taste

Saute the onion in butter/oil until it starts to brown. Toss in the roast beef, water or broth, wine, garlic and green beans. Simmer over medium heat until the green beans get tender-crisp. This should take about 5-6 minutes. Add the shredded carrots, simmer another minute and serve. Per serving its 215 cal, 8.5g fat, 8g carbs or 6g net carbs and 26 g protein. The wine gives it a rich, complex flavor!

Think I can call this "Magic Beef Soup"? Oh, and please send me $69.95 for the recipe. This entitles you to a lifetime usage license, but you may not share it with anyone else!

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Wanted to pop in and share a quick, delicous recipe I just made up for beef soup.

The following makes two hearty servings
1 can of Hormel Roast beef
1.5 - 2 cups water or beef broth
a splash or three of red wine (merlot, my fav) (optional)
1 T of butter or olive oil
4-5 oz of frozen whole baby green beans
small onion, chopped
1/4 cup shredded carrots
minced or powdered garlic to taste

Saute the onion in butter/oil until it starts to brown. Toss in the roast beef, water or broth, wine, garlic and green beans. Simmer over medium heat until the green beans get tender-crisp. This should take about 5-6 minutes. Add the shredded carrots, simmer another minute and serve. Per serving its 215 cal, 8.5g fat, 8g carbs or 6g net carbs and 26 g protein. The wine gives it a rich, complex flavor!

Think I can call this "Magic Beef Soup"? Oh, and please send me $69.95 for the recipe. This entitles you to a lifetime usage license, but you may not share it with anyone else!

Can I get canned roast beef from Costco?
Do I get support from the soup guru for that price?
Will you post a picture of you and the soup?
Have you ever made this soup before or are you just using someone else's recipe that you found on the internet?

[vernswifevickie]

Originally Posted by jo2621

They are trying to decide on T-shirt logos. Most of the gals wanted a big flashy logo front and back. Heidi squashed those ideas and wanted something small (read unnoticeable) in the upper corner of a shirt.

I thought she was soooo proud of her plan? If it's so great and it works and all these people to include herself are so dang happy and healthy, she should want everyone to know...shouldn't she?

See...dumb Heidi shouldn't have banned me. Not only do I have relatives in Vegas who work in the hotel industry, I manage an Embroidery business...we do screen printing an embroidery on shirts...See...I coulda got her some deals and she wouldn't have any excuse not to go....plus, our shirts come in sizes up to 10XL!

[rebel]

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

See...dumb Heidi shouldn't have banned me. Not only do I have relatives in Vegas who work in the hotel industry, I manage an Embroidery business...we do screen printing an embroidery on shirts...See...I coulda got her some deals and she wouldn't have any excuse not to go....plus, our shirts come in sizes up to 10XL!

OR .... She could have stayed with you at your sister's house while in Vegas!

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

See...dumb Heidi shouldn't have banned me. Not only do I have relatives in Vegas who work in the hotel industry, I manage an Embroidery business...we do screen printing an embroidery on shirts...See...I coulda got her some deals and she wouldn't have any excuse not to go....plus, our shirts come in sizes up to 10XL!

and you could have made her up some of those towels that Mayberry has on her avi

[vernswifevickie]

Originally Posted by rebel

OR .... She could have stayed with you at your sister's house while in Vegas!

Exactly..because money is an issue for poor Heidi right now!

[LINC]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Linc posted:

Thanks Linc! I didn't mean to insinuate that there's anything wrong with using tax shelters. I'm well-known for my conservatism, so I'm all for paying as few taxes as the law allows! What I meant to say is could losses from running MCD be a way to protect some of the Lupers' income? If they have one business that's going well (candle shop) and one that's doing poorly (MCD) they can show losses on the MCD business and protect some of their overall income.

Yes, that would be the way it would work, but if that's what's really happening, then that's the way it's supposed to work. A loss is a loss. It depends on the corporate structure. If they set everything up so that the income or loss for the businesses passes through their personal return, the loss from one would offset the profit from the other on their personal return. If they didn't set it up that way, there's a whole double taxation thing that goes on, but having a second corporation is a way to get income from a company with the double taxation problem into a corporation that doesn't. It's a pretty common thing...well, it is for the guy I work for. He likes things as complicated as possible. At one time he had about 20 different corporations. Right now, I think he's down to about 7.

Lou

[jo2621]

Wow... as if Kimkins wasn't the epitome of internet sleaze before, this is what level it has sunken to.

She just put this up on her latest blog entry:

Is Kimkins Right for You?
Give 10 Days, We'll Give You 10 Reasons
Lose 100 Lbs for $79.95!
That's It. Not Another Penny. Ever.

[LINC]

Originally Posted by jo2621

Wow... as if Kimkins wasn't the epitome of internet sleaze before, this is what level it has sunken to.

She just put this up on her latest blog entry:

Is Kimkins Right for You?
Give 10 Days, We'll Give You 10 Reasons
Lose 100 Lbs for $79.95!
That's It. Not Another Penny. Ever.

I've clicked on the "10 reasons" link and it's just a sly way for her to get your e-mail address. I have no idea what the 10 days part of it is about though - is she going to send you Kimkins spam for 10 days? Now she's saying you'll lose 100 pounds for $79.95? Hmmmmm...that sounds kinda like a guarantee to me.

Lou

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by rebel

lcinlv! Oh, please say you'll go. Please, please -- pretty please.

Uh oh. Now Kimmer won't show up for personal security reasons. Shhhhhh!!!

[OhYeahBabe]

I am way behind so maybe this has already been mentioned - sorry. I heard back from Amazon and got exactly the same response they gave before. I clicked that I was not satisfied with that answer and wrote to them again.

[mauitammy]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

hope you have smashed and flushed that bag so you will not have a relapse again. Emotionall eating is tough to conquore cause you can't like an alcoholic or drug addict just never have any food again. letting the tiger out of the cage and putting it back unharmed is impossible so the trick it to never let the one named emotional out of the cage and just allow the nutrtional tigers out and back in each day. Some days they might scratch you too but nothing like that one named emotional.

it is hard to accept food is a drug for many of us ( yep many foods contain pharmocological properties just like drugs do), but once you do then you can take steps you need to to keep that drug from being your primary means of treating your emotional hurts and that is when you will start winning the body fat battle.

So post away and let that anger, and hurt you got out here in a very safe manner.

2Big.....just gotta say.....You are awesome!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Btw, I have NO idea who Elsie is, but I'd like to give her a big THUMBS UP!!

"Elsie" is code for "LCF"

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by lcinlv

Morning All,
I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer. Didn't Tippy Toes leave Kimkins because Heidi quit paying her? Did she also quit paying SL and she's going through all this for nothing? Is there any chance Suzy is actually Fawn? Also I'm live in Las Vegas does anyone know off hand when & where the Kimkin folks are meeting? Might be worth a trip to the street. Hats off to all the ducks for all your hard work, perseverence and success! I've been following this thread from day 1 and it's just mindboggling.

Originally Posted by vernswifevickie

I'm hoping someone can help me. Last night I followed a link in one of the anti kimkins blogs (or maybe it was here, I can't remember) to a story about on line, fake identities and murder, I wanted to show it to my boss and now I can't find it. Help!?