Why the fascination with Kimmer? #15

[**Lola**]

NOBODY is "crashing" her website. If they want it private, they can make it private. As it stands now, it is NOT a private site. I find it very interesting that you take every occasion you can to bash people here, even when it is completely uncalled for.

I haven't bashed anyone at all and would remain silent if someone else would step in and comment on some of the bad behavior here.

Obviously that board is private as someone posted Bonnie saying that you were there illegally.

Meaning that she obviously doesn't want you to be there but because this woman has no computer skills, she doesn't know how to stop you.

So therefore you take that as free license to do as you wish.

From my perspective, it looks like you are harrasing an older woman who tried to start a business (however poorly conceived) simply because you can.

And that is wrong. I would hope some of you would see that without someone like me having to comment on it.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by rebel

Seems like I started the feathers flying when I posted about the chicken ranch last night?

Happens every time, just like clockwork!

[**Lola**]

It's just unfortunate that some of you would mar your own good work by engaging in harrassing seemingly innocent people on the internet for kicks.

I mean until you can prove that Bonnie is Heidi or somehow related, what real justification do you have for giving this woman grief????

i.e. posting details about her life on a public messageboard, investigating her private personal issues and speculating about such things on a public messageboard, invading her private messageboard and trying to agitate her and her customers.

I'm sorry those things are just not okay. And I am quite certain that none of you would wish that to happen to YOU. You know, the whole do onto others thing....

Sorry if that comes across as the "morality police"...but maybe if you policed yourselves outsiders like me wouldn't feel compelled to comment.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by rebel

Seems like I started the feathers flying when I posted about the chicken ranch last night?

You did it !

You'd think there was a "bunch" of people that owned that site. Every time it is brought up....." they" come out.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Happens every time, just like clockwork!

You did such a good job on the INSIDER EXCLUSIVE! Thanks!

[rebel]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

You did it !

You'd think there was a "bunch" of people that owned that site. Every time it is brought up....." they" come out.

Well, I just wanted ya'll to know, so that none of the ducks would get in trouble with the chickens.

[Purple Crayon]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

The doctor was lumping all low carbing into the same category with KK, but it was John who pointed out in front of the doctor that Atkins is a balanced diet.

Yeah. I wish the Drs and nutritionists used on these broadcasts were pro-LC or at least knowledgeable about what Atkins is and what it isn't. I'm afraid all of LC will get tainted by this Kimkins mess.

Kimkins isn't a low-carb diet; it's a starvation diet!

[sissypoo]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

I haven't bashed anyone at all and would remain silent if someone else would step in and comment on some of the bad behavior here.

Obviously that board is private as someone posted Bonnie saying that you were there illegally.

Meaning that she obviously doesn't want you to be there but because this woman has no computer skills, she doesn't know how to stop you.

So therefore you take that as free license to do as you wish.

From my perspective, it looks like you are harrasing an older woman who tried to start a business (however poorly conceived) simply because you can.

And that is wrong. I would hope some of you would see that without someone like me having to comment on it.

Hey! She's only like late 40's or maybe 50. That's not what I would consider older. Since I'm older than that.

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by rebel

Well, I just wanted ya'll to know, so that none of the ducks would get in trouble with the chickens.

Lordy Mercy...there's enough feathers a flyin around here to fill up a right nice sized mattress....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

You did it !

You'd think there was a "bunch" of people that owned that site. Every time it is brought up....." they" come out.

LOL. Always the conspiracy theory.

To address your accusation head on, I have nothing to do with the MCD. Frankly, I think the concept is rather ridiculous.

But consider the possibility that me and other people who have commented on how you have gone after this (most likely) innocent woman are doing so out of conscience and not out of some wild conspiratorial connection.

And yes, Terri did a great job on the Insider Exclusive video. To bad that sort of thing is overshadowed by the really nasty (unnecessary) stuff that goes on in this thread sometimes.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by sissypoo

Hey! She's only like late 40's or maybe 50. That's not what I would consider older. Since I'm older than that.

Hey, I didn't catch that either! At 51, I guess I'm an older woman, too.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by jo2621

Lordy Mercy...there's enough feathers a flyin around here to fill up a right nice sized mattress....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by rebel

Hey, I didn't catch that either! At 51, I guess I'm an older woman, too.

You know some of us get better when we age, like fine wine
and some of us just get bitter, like vinegar.

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by sissypoo

Hey! She's only like late 40's or maybe 50. That's not what I would consider older. Since I'm older than that.

Sorry, she looked older than 50 to me. I don't know one way or the other.

I'm just asking that the another perspective be considered.

Many here are convinced that she is somehow connected to Kimmer. Maybe she is and maybe she isn't.

But consider that if she isn't ...consider how most people who are not internet savy might feel with so much negative interest in them by strangers from the internet.

People who post repeatedly about where she lives and has lived...who her relatives are...speculate about all kinds of personal stuff on the public internet about her.

People who gain UNAUTHORIZED access to her private messageboard and agitate her and her few customers.

If she isn't at all involved with Heidi, how in the heck can you justify any of that??? How can you say that this is okay behavior???

I would imagine most people would be pretty frightened to have suddenly become the center of interest to 10, 20 or more strangers from the internet.

I'm just saying thinking about the possibility that there is no connection to heidi and how this woman might feel...and how any of us would feel if we were her.

Not to be the morality police, but geez.

[dlslds]

And I am quite certain that none of you would wish that to happen to YOU. You know, the whole do onto others thing....

EXACTLY the whole do unto others thing!!! how would You like it if You were the ONLY person who was made to pay $70, for a fake site that has NO ONE in it?
IMO the girls here are Helping someone NOT to get ripped off.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

It's just unfortunate that some of you would mar your own good work by engaging in harrassing seemingly innocent people on the internet for kicks.

I mean until you can prove that Bonnie is Heidi or somehow related, what real justification do you have for giving this woman grief????

i.e. posting details about her life on a public messageboard, investigating her private personal issues and speculating about such things on a public messageboard, invading her private messageboard and trying to agitate her and her customers.

I'm sorry those things are just not okay. And I am quite certain that none of you would wish that to happen to YOU. You know, the whole do onto others thing....

Sorry if that comes across as the "morality police"...but maybe if you policed yourselves outsiders like me wouldn't feel compelled to comment.

Nobody is being harassed. As I have said before, when you open up a website to charge people for entry, you have started up a very public business, and to be scrutinized is the way of the world. If Bonnie doesn't want to be scrutinized, there was/is a way to prevent that. Scrutinization does not equal harassment. If Bonnie wants to come here and confront us, the forum is open. She has chosen not to do it, so the "harassment" can't be all that bad.

Yes, it comes off as the morality police. You come here and wag your finger so sanctimoniously at us as if you have cornered the market on appropriate behavior. How do you think it would come across if it were done to you? I think the "do unto others" thing is something YOU need to think about for your own behavior rather than throwing it up into the faces of others. The next time you feel compelled to comment, just think for once about how YOU seem to others. For someone who is so sensitive about harassment, you do a pretty good job of it yourself. Those who live in glass houses - I'm just sayin'.

[Nady]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

LOL. Always the conspiracy theory.

To address your accusation head on, I have nothing to do with the MCD. Frankly, I think the concept is rather ridiculous.

But consider the possibility that me and other people who have commented on how you have gone after this (most likely) innocent woman are doing so out of conscience and not out of some wild conspiratorial connection.

And yes, Terri did a great job on the Insider Exclusive video. To bad that sort of thing is overshadowed by the really nasty (unnecessary) stuff that goes on in this thread sometimes.

So, I guess you think we should stop advertising her site for her? Because the only reason there is any interest at all in the MCD is because this thread and the corresponding blogs that have put her on Google~ before that, if you put magic chicken into a search, all you got was that ad her hubby posted and a bunch of magic chicken recipes!
~~~N

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

LOL. Always the conspiracy theory.

To address your accusation head on, I have nothing to do with the MCD. Frankly, I think the concept is rather ridiculous.

But consider the possibility that me and other people who have commented on how you have gone after this (most likely) innocent woman are doing so out of conscience and not out of some wild conspiratorial connection.

And yes, Terri did a great job on the Insider Exclusive video. To bad that sort of thing is overshadowed by the really nasty (unnecessary) stuff that goes on in this thread sometimes.

May I ask you a couple questions?
You come in here to complain about us right?
Do you see the work that has been done in these threads?

When we find a "dead end", we move on. But until then we keep checking and searching.

People complained how we went after Heidi too. She was innocent, we were mistaken , we were mean,etc. Where would we be if we all gave up?

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by dlslds

EXACTLY the whole do unto others thing!!! how would You like it if You were the ONLY person who was made to pay $70, for a fake site that has NO ONE in it?
IMO the girls here are Helping someone NOT to get ripped off.

So the answer is, we can do whatever we want to the MCD lady because she MUST be in cahoots with Kimkins.

If not, then we don't like her diet anyway, so we can do what we want to her....And we are trying to save her customers from her.


Personally, I think her diet is ridiculous. But if someone wants to plop down $70 to join, then that's on them. If they want a refund, then ask her for one. That has nothing to do with any of you.

And it certainly doesn't give you the right to harrass this woman FIRST and then come up with justifications later.

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

So the answer is, we can do whatever we want to the MCD lady because she MUST be in cahoots with Kimkins.

If not, then we don't like her diet anyway, so we can do what we want to her....And we are trying to save her customers from her.


Personally, I think her diet is ridiculous. But if someone wants to plop down $70 to join, then that's on them. If they want a refund, then ask her for one. That has nothing to do with any of you.

And it certainly doesn't give you the right to harrass this woman FIRST and then come up with justifications later.

i DIDNT say that. it is obvious you know nothing of this. IF you had been to the site you would see that there is only ONE paying person, who is making posts begging to be answered by someone ANYONE.

NO ONE is harrassing anyone.


cept you.

MOO

[**Lola**]

Nobody is being harassed.

I have a funny feeling that Bonnie Luper would feel differently.

When we find a "dead end", we move on. But until then we keep checking and searching.

The problem is you've concluded that this women is involved with Heidi BEFORE YOU'VE PROVED THAT.

Therefore you use that conclusion to justify doing whatever you want to her.

As for the advertisement you've provided her, I'm kind of thinking she (and anybody else) probably would prefer no advertisement to this kind of advertisement.

Also, I can't imagine anyone being pleased about so much of their personal info being posted here.

Oh well...I'm not going to go on and on about this....just posted to let you all know that I for one do not think what you are doing to this Bonnie Luper woman is right.

Hopefully that will make some sort of impact on some of you.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by Nady

So, I guess you think we should stop advertising her site for her? Because the only reason there is any interest at all in the MCD is because this thread and the corresponding blogs that have put her on Google~ before that, if you put magic chicken into a search, all you got was that ad her hubby posted and a bunch of magic chicken recipes!
~~~N

And, you could also find where Bonnie's husband was advertising for someone to develop a site like Kimkins for them. I don't think they just picked that name out of a hat, do you?

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Nobody is being harassed. As I have said before, when you open up a website to charge people for entry, you have started up a very public business, and to be scrutinized is the way of the world. If Bonnie doesn't want to be scrutinized, there was/is a way to prevent that. Scrutinization does not equal harassment. If Bonnie wants to come here and confront us, the forum is open. She has chosen not to do it, so the "harassment" can't be all that bad.

Yes, it comes off as the morality police. You come here and wag your finger so sanctimoniously at us as if you have cornered the market on appropriate behavior. How do you think it would come across if it were done to you? I think the "do unto others" thing is something YOU need to think about for your own behavior rather than throwing it up into the faces of others. The next time you fee compelled to comment, just think for once about how YOU seem to others. For someone who is so sensitive about harassment, you do a pretty good job of it yourself. Those who live in glass houses - I'm just sayin'.

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Thanks, I can't type as fast as you. Oh and I agree with you!

[dlslds]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicsmom
Nobody is being harassed. As I have said before, when you open up a website to charge people for entry, you have started up a very public business, and to be scrutinized is the way of the world. If Bonnie doesn't want to be scrutinized, there was/is a way to prevent that. Scrutinization does not equal harassment. If Bonnie wants to come here and confront us, the forum is open. She has chosen not to do it, so the "harassment" can't be all that bad.

Yes, it comes off as the morality police. You come here and wag your finger so sanctimoniously at us as if you have cornered the market on appropriate behavior. How do you think it would come across if it were done to you? I think the "do unto others" thing is something YOU need to think about for your own behavior rather than throwing it up into the faces of others. The next time you fee compelled to comment, just think for once about how YOU seem to others. For someone who is so sensitive about harassment, you do a pretty good job of it yourself. Those who live in glass houses - I'm just sayin'.

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

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