Why the fascination with Kimmer? #15

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by This time

MissMerize..your a hoot today And that also goes for you nady. wait i forgot got to love you gals

You wanna hear something really funny - I thought that was you in the avatar until I just went to change one

I always thought "what a cool pic", please tell me you posed for it

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

You done good Sheridan.

Do I get a gold star, Miss Lola?

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Do I get a gold star, Miss Lola?

no, you get three gold stars. It was really funny.

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by Barbara B

It should *not* be moved to the playground because people who have not had the adequate amount of posts or days joined could have valuable info and not be able to PM or post on the Playground. On that I feel very strong.

So do I.

[little_miss]

Do you think if she did have WLS that a doctor would come in to testify or all medical records are kept confidential regardless? That would seem tricky to me?? I bet she will have all of her kimbots testify on her behalf, I mean we know some who actually lost weight right. Even the people who are still fat, can't they just say I gained all my weight back. And kimmers response could be "I claimed kimkins would make you lose, I never claimed you would stay that way."??

[This time]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

You wanna hear something really funny - I thought that was you in the avatar until I just went to change one

I always thought "what a cool pic", please tell me you posed for it

Yes........no

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

Your theory makes a lot of sense if there is really a connection between MCD and Kimmer.

Also, Linc makes a good point. From just reading and lurking in this thread it seems like there is more of an effort to distract WITH MCD than to distract FROM MCD.

Either way, why doesn't someone just call up Bonnie nicely and ask her about her diet??? Explain the interest and that you want to rule her out of this whole Kimmer thing and see what she says. Rather than months and months and months of speculation about someone who probably has nothing at all to do with Kimkins.

And the reason I say she probably has nothing to do with Kimkins is just as Linc pointed out, if she really had something to do with Kimkins they never would have advertised to clone Kimkins. Just doesn't make any sense.

I will try to answer your questions.

1. If Bonnie is involved in any way with Heidi, why should she answer in a straightforward way??!!

2. Someone DID ask Bonnie very nicely (actually several people) and the answers forthcoming were not really *informative*, to say the least.

3. Bonnie is not even to be found much on HER

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

no, you get three gold stars. It was really funny.

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by little_miss

Do you think if she did have WLS that a doctor would come in to testify or all medical records are kept confidential regardless? That would seem tricky to me?? I bet she will have all of her kimbots testify on her behalf, I mean we know some who actually lost weight right. Even the people who are still fat, can't they just say I gained all my weight back. And kimmers response could be "I claimed kimkins would make you lose, I never claimed you would stay that way."??

I'm not an expert on kimkins...but from all my lurking and reading I've gathered that the civil suit is more about the fraud that she committed by lying about the success stories, banning lifetime members, the fake photos she used and said were her, and stuff like that.

I think it probably would be to her advantage (however small) to show up in court being slim and trim versus 300 something pounds.

But still I don't think the weight loss thing really goes to the real legal issues...it would just make her look better. And we all know that fat people are discriminated against.

So I think her being really fat during trial will make her case an automatic loser and being slim will make it just a really, really bad case for her.

[Mayberryfan]

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Is this cool or what? Hey Bonnie, we're comin' straight at you girl!

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by little_miss

Do you think if she did have WLS that a doctor would come in to testify or all medical records are kept confidential regardless? That would seem tricky to me?? I bet she will have all of her kimbots testify on her behalf, I mean we know some who actually lost weight right. Even the people who are still fat, can't they just say I gained all my weight back. And kimmers response could be "I claimed kimkins would make you lose, I never claimed you would stay that way."??

Heidi would have trouble trying to find a way to pay for WLS, or a way of explaining to the judge how she came into money enough to pay for it. Her bank accounts have been frozen, and in court filings she claims she doesn't have enough money to do much of anything. She lost her Social Security disability payments months ago and I'm sure any medical benefits that accompanied that, too.

[little_miss]

I understand your points. But im sure her legal team would probably try to show that no matter what diet, you should always check it out with your doctor (I thought remembered kimmer saying this?) and in that case i'm sure many doctors would of advised against it and in every diet there has to be a willing participant. So i'm sure personal responsibility will come into question, I would assume? It is afterall a forum with suggestions, no one is making anyone do anything. Altho I do agree people were scammed, I'm just looking at this from a different point of view. Has anyone thought of filing a case against Women's World?

[MissMerize]

[little_miss]

So all the money she is still getting from new members being directed to the kimkins.com website, she is getting none of?

[This time]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

I have a cat almost that size

[Mrs. Steve]

Thank you Linc. There is NO way I could ever go back and read everything I missed. I am still clueless many times, and it seems like there are a lot of inside jokes. LOL. You all who have been here for every thread know the "ins and outs", and sometimes it seems like a foreign language to me. My ex (aka Martina's Martini, who thought he was too smart to be discovered) read EVERY thread, every blog, all of it. Only someone with nothing else to do, and no life, could catch up this far in the game.

I can understand that some get irritated by new people coming in and asking what has happened. It can be handled a lot nicer though. I know that I have often felt like I didn't belong, and that some of the old time posters here, didn't really accept or welcome newbies. That's one reason I quit reading a few months ago. I couldn't keep up, and didn't seem to fit in. We all have one common goal right? To see Heidi put out of business and for justice to be done. It doesn't help the cause, when "civil war" breaks out. I imagine that Heidi and her cronies, (or is SL the last to get a clue?) enjoy seeing people bicker and fight here.

I hope no one jumps on me for giving my opinion. I know I have not been here the entire time, but I was a member at KK, I have contributed to this lawsuit, (and no John, it's not about the stupid blinkies.... and get a life and leave me alone.) and I want to see Heidi pay just as badly as the rest of you.
Excuse my little side remarks to my loser ex, but he's watching for every post I make.

Can't you just agree to disagree? It doesn't seem like anyone is ever going to back down, or agree with "the other side".

Respectfully, and hoping not to be jumped all over, Trista

Originally Posted by LINC

I really don't have any idea how long it would take to read through all 15 threads, but I have to think it would be HOURS, if not days.

I don't think it's reasonable for someone to come in here and demand a blow by blow on everything that's happened since July, but a recap? Why not? Why is that rude? I thought part of the reason this thread existed was so that people could spread the word about the Kimkins scam and share information?

This is where a lot of people come to get the latest word on what's happening. Or to get information on what happened in the first place.

I know it's been suggested in the past, and I really think it's a good idea - why not have a recap sticky at the top of this forum? One that summarizes everything that's happened. It can be updated whenever there's something new.

Lou

[**Lola**]

Has anyone thought of filing a case against Women's World?

That's a good question. I haven't read anyone suggest this on these threads.

It seems like it would be standard practice to include WW magazine in a suit of this sort. Hmmn, I wonder why no one has gone after that magazine?

[little_miss]

this speaks volumes!

[little_miss]

Well in that case if it hasn't been discussed I am glad to see I could offer a few new suggestions. See it isn't so bad having someone new around.

[Amyb1569]

I am curious if anyone received the Kimkins newsletter today. I heard that she now wants payment in the form of a personal check and she will hold the second check ...Hummm....
I know this has been answered before...but remind me...is she allowed to make and keep the money from new members?

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by little_miss

So all the money she is still getting from new members being directed to the kimkins.com website, she is getting none of?

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe that's necessarily the case. The thing is, though, that she doesn't have nearly the viral marketing scheme going for her that she did at the start, nor has she received any good media exposure like the Woman's World article was. She probably gets a very small fraction of new members, and remember, those payments are a one time payment, not a monthly deal. The ducks here have done an outstanding, stellar job of "pulling weeds", and if one googles KK, while her site does remain the first link found, the next ones are quite unflattering. Anyone who does any research on KK would have to be very unconscious to not see the vast amount of anti-KK sites and information.

[Mrs. Steve]

Sometimes you just can't convince people LM. It may never end. I'm sorry you haven't felt welcome. I have had the same feelings before myself. I do see both sides though. I am extremely suspicious of every new person I meet, due to experience with people like Heidi and my ex. I don't like to be that way, but it changes you. KWIM? So, I may remain guarded, until I know you better, but I promise not to take my anger out on you. Sometimes in an argument, there has to be "the last word". If both sides have to get in that last word, it will never end. I've only just learned that recently and it's in my nature to argue my point till you understand me.

~Trista

Originally Posted by little_miss

I am fighting against descrimination, right here in this post, sadly. I have made a good point about the woman on the chicken diet, and yet only one person aknowledged it because you are so busy ripping me apart. I try to start topics other than talking about what you guys think of me, because honestly I don't care. Just as you don't care what I think of you, so lets just move on shall we.

[little_miss]

Well to search for KK is to have heard about KK and since there is no commericials or articles then I would assume it would be done thru word of mouth, and as you can see even today, people have many different opinions on just about everything, so the people spreading the kimkins disease are people looking to profit and they will have nothing but positives to say. Not just that they will tell others to ignore "haters" because they are just losers who probably couldn't follow the program. One would question why Heidi or kim, whichever her name is would still continue to take pics or post or do anything for practically cents on the dollar. Just doesn't seem worth it. Maybe this is tiding her over until her next scam?

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

No, it's not just you. Most of the people here seem to think that she's not really losing weight.

It looks like she's lost a little bit of weight from the PI photos to me though.

I think her attorney probably told her to make sure she loses weight before the trial. So I bet she will lose some weight, but if she couldn't lose weight for all of these years to make her million dollar scam legitimate, I bet she won't be able to lose a substantial amount of weight now.

My other thought was that she would go have WLS and pretend that she lost it all on the kimkins diet.

Lola---her family stated she Had WLS well over 12 +years ago and it did not work---I'm sure she could have a revision now and say she just lost it on her starvation diet---but even a WLS revision is no guarantee to lose weight---you can still eat around the pouch----which probably why she failed the first time

besides she's broke and no longer has insurance and WLS is VERY expensive if you self pay

as for her newest pic---I think this is the least photo shopped pic she has posted yet---she knows it is still committing fraud if she still continues to post photo shopped pics---our pic wizards need to compare this pic with her deposition pic

[little_miss]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Steve