Why the fascination with Kimmer? #15

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by Barbara B

Funny, it's never the ducks that admonish everyone about taking time away from our lives. It's always from someone who doesn't know us at all.

To all of you who think that some of are too harsh, mean, not "adult" enough for you or wasting our time or whatever, you are "preaching" to the wrong people."Its taking time away from your kids and/or family and/or excersizing and/or doing something useful"...then why are you here?

How about going after someone who deserves it?

Take a look at just a sampling of a few of these direct quote posts from Heidi from the "Ask Kimmer" thread here at LCF. I tried to find some similar posts at KK but it has been scrubbed cleaner than Mommie Dearest's bathroom.

"Retin-A has been my best friend for 15 years!"

"I want to be able to eat higher carb so I do lower calorie. My food choices tend to be pretty much the same every day:
B - Yogurt or mini 'loaded' omelette, herbal tea
S - Fruit (whatever I like, average portion or size)
L - Lean protein & salad (like a fast food grilled chicken), lowfat dressing
S - Protein salad (egg, tuna or chicken, I always have some made)
D - Lean protein, veggies (as much as desired), fruit based dessert like a baked apple or diced fruit salad"

"Cheat? No, I never do. Not because I'm a saint, but because I know it will trigger something BIG ... always has, probably always will. I find it easier to "just say no"

"I look thin (even more so after the 14 day water fast challenge!) but not overly so. I think it's because I'm large boned? A friend of mine is Asian, just absolutely TINY! She gave me a pair of jeans she didn't want anymore (size 4) and they fit us the same ... except she looks like a wisp and I look "regular".

"Actually, I'd rather be in the size 8 range, but haven't figured out a way to do that without eating stuff that will trigger me."

"I lose differently than most people.
11 lbs overnight (water, I'm a sponge)
160 lbs total in 7 months
Last 20 lbs over 2.5 months"

"On my weekend water fasts now I lose 5-7 lbs, but I'm not in ketosis so that's 4 lbs of water which I regain when I start eating. I'm not fasting for weight loss. On my 45 day fast when I was 20, I lost 60-65 lbs, which I suppose sounds amazing although it didn't seem fast enough at the time!"

"You're in the 300 lb range so I would anticipate 8-11 lbs a week. You might consider MoM, epsom salt or other laxative either full strength 2-3 times a week or a reduced amount daily. Are you diabetic?"

"Your mention of prediabetes is very important. To avoid becoming diabetic is one of the reasons I promote rapid weight loss. I don't think enough people understand that once you become diabetic, you always are. You can manage with diet and/or meds, but you're never cured."

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by LChottie07

Good morning all... just wanted to stop by to tell you that I'm alive. Barely though LOL For those who do not know what the surgery was about, in my accident at the beginning of the year, my ACL was re-torn. Same knee as the ACL repair I had last year. The surgery was successful, however they did not use a nerve block like they did in my last surgery, so I'm in a great deal more pain. I'll be on pain meds and drugs for the next few days so I probably won't be posting much. But, wanted to thank you all for the kind words, encouragement, and well wishes. Keep up the great work everyone!

Christin

Christin,

Glad to know your'e on the road to recovery...now go rest!!!

Take Care. Jo

[Mayberryfan]

Trying to scan some of this in order to keep my blood pressure down..

There has been and IS much work going on trying to connect Bonnie and Heidi. The fact that they both lived at the same time in Corona and we can safely assume they were both overweight at the time, they may've struck up a friendship. Hard to say!

Here are my theories...FWIW..on the possible Bonnie/Heidi connection

1. Bonnie Luper was a member at Kimkins who took money from Heidi in order to create a backup site for Kimkins which became the Magic Chicken Diet.

2. One of Bonnie's daughter(s) - we know she has at least one daughter Courtney - or DIL's, niece, or a good friend was a member at Kimkins and gave Bonnie the info she needed to start her own website.

3. Bonnie could be friends with a former Kimkins administrator who wanted to make some mega-bucks of her own and went into business with Bonnie.

4. Bonnie just heard about Kimkins, knew the potential for a diet website to take off, and decided to copy it on her own.

Again, these are just THEORIES... But, whatever the connection between Heidi and Bonnie, assuming there is one, will be found. The Tragic Chicken Diet is every bit as dangerous as Kimkins. Check Mariasol's blog for the menu and see for yourself.

I don't know how Bonnie can sleep at night. After all, the woman works in the insurance industry. Surely she MUST understand about liability.

[rebel]

Christin, I'm so glad you are through the operations and on to the mending. I understand that you can hear better out of your eye now.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by LChottie07

Good morning all... just wanted to stop by to tell you that I'm alive. Barely though LOL For those who do not know what the surgery was about, in my accident at the beginning of the year, my ACL was re-torn. Same knee as the ACL repair I had last year. The surgery was successful, however they did not use a nerve block like they did in my last surgery, so I'm in a great deal more pain. I'll be on pain meds and drugs for the next few days so I probably won't be posting much. But, wanted to thank you all for the kind words, encouragement, and well wishes. Keep up the great work everyone!

Christin

I'm so glad to hear the surgery went well. Sorry you're having the pain, though. Hope it passes quickly for you.

[Barbara B]

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by LChottie07

Good morning all... just wanted to stop by to tell you that I'm alive. Barely though LOL For those who do not know what the surgery was about, in my accident at the beginning of the year, my ACL was re-torn. Same knee as the ACL repair I had last year. The surgery was successful, however they did not use a nerve block like they did in my last surgery, so I'm in a great deal more pain. I'll be on pain meds and drugs for the next few days so I probably won't be posting much. But, wanted to thank you all for the kind words, encouragement, and well wishes. Keep up the great work everyone!

Christin

Thanks for letting us know. I sent you a PM earlier.

[rebel]

BarbaraB - Didn't you get the memo about the kitty pictures? Just kidding! I love kitties. I have a collection of them in all different colors.

[size124life]

Your words of welcome were so kind, the only thing missing was my 'welcome to the neighborhood basket of muffins!' Oops did I say that?

As usual, you girls are on the money, there is something very familiar sounding about this most recent 'drive by.' I look forward to the sleuthing wonders of the "Duck-inators' as you guys unravel yet another pathetic attempt to distract!

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by rebel

BarbaraB - Didn't you get the memo about the kitty pictures? Just kidding! I love kitties. I have a collection of them in all different colors.

I got the memo, but I am just a "Rebel".

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Trying to scan some of this in order to keep my blood pressure down..

There has been and IS much work going on trying to connect Bonnie and Heidi. The fact that they both lived at the same time in Corona and we can safely assume they were both overweight at the time, they may've struck up a friendship. Hard to say!

Here are my theories...FWIW..on the possible Bonnie/Heidi connection

1. Bonnie Luper was a member at Kimkins who took money from Heidi in order to create a backup site for Kimkins which became the Magic Chicken Diet.

2. One of Bonnie's daughter(s) - we know she has at least one daughter Courtney - or DIL's, niece, or a good friend was a member at Kimkins and gave Bonnie the info she needed to start her own website.

3. Bonnie could be friends with a former Kimkins administrator who wanted to make some mega-bucks of her own and went into business with Bonnie.

4. Bonnie just heard about Kimkins, knew the potential for a diet website to take off, and decided to copy it on her own.

Again, these are just THEORIES... But, whatever the connection between Heidi and Bonnie, assuming there is one, will be found. The Tragic Chicken Diet is every bit as dangerous as Kimkins. Check Mariasol's blog for the menu and see for yourself.

I don't know how Bonnie can sleep at night. After all, the woman works in the insurance industry. Surely she MUST understand about liability.

Whilst purusing the old "Ask Kimmer" thread I found more than one reference to canned (Magic) chicken.

Like " stash some canned chicken in your purse or office desk."

Sounds a little MCD to me...

yummmmy!
room temp canned unseasoned dry chicken parts n pieces

guaranteed SNATT

[catzrule]

Originally Posted by Mariasol

Great! Can I use you as my personal consultant for my blog? I could use some help (never did fix the table I posted a while back).

Singing Lass mentioned using Statcounter for her kasamba page. Could you check if it's the same one on her AOL?

Glad to help anytime. I'm not a blogger, but I'm sure I could figger it out!

[Larcana]

Originally Posted by jo2621

Whilst purusing the old "Ask Kimmer" thread I found more than one reference to canned (Magic) chicken.

Like " stash some canned chicken in your purse or office desk."

Sounds a little MCD to me...

yummmmy!
room temp canned unseasoned dry chicken parts n pieces

guaranteed SNATT

I agree, after reading the diet plan I was thinking, yuck. I already have trouble with eating certain things that I ate while on scamkins.
Lauren

[LoraJR72]

The one who created the MCD site was Eric Gerdes (a web designer) which I found on the Page View Info. (I know I mentioned this on a previous FWK thread.) Did anyone find out if there was a connection? Even if there wasn't, anyone who knows and understands HTML code can copy a website and change it to make it their own.

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

The one who created the MCD site was Eric Gerdes (a web designer) which I found on the Page View Info. (I know I mentioned this on a previous FWK thread.) Did anyone find out if there was a connection? Even if there wasn't, anyone who knows and understands HTML code can copy a website and change it to make it their own.

Actually, Eric Gerdes is just the designer of one of the plug in modules freely available on the internet. Live chat, I think.

[Nady]

Christin!! Glad to see you ~ heal fast!

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Trying to scan some of this in order to keep my blood pressure down..

There has been and IS much work going on trying to connect Bonnie and Heidi. The fact that they both lived at the same time in Corona and we can safely assume they were both overweight at the time, they may've struck up a friendship. Hard to say!

Here are my theories...FWIW..on the possible Bonnie/Heidi connection

1. Bonnie Luper was a member at Kimkins who took money from Heidi in order to create a backup site for Kimkins which became the Magic Chicken Diet.

2. One of Bonnie's daughter(s) - we know she has at least one daughter Courtney - or DIL's, niece, or a good friend was a member at Kimkins and gave Bonnie the info she needed to start her own website.

3. Bonnie could be friends with a former Kimkins administrator who wanted to make some mega-bucks of her own and went into business with Bonnie.

4. Bonnie just heard about Kimkins, knew the potential for a diet website to take off, and decided to copy it on her own.

Again, these are just THEORIES... But, whatever the connection between Heidi and Bonnie, assuming there is one, will be found. The Tragic Chicken Diet is every bit as dangerous as Kimkins. Check Mariasol's blog for the menu and see for yourself.

I don't know how Bonnie can sleep at night. After all, the woman works in the insurance industry. Surely she MUST understand about liability.

Okay~ didn't Heidi say she once lost weight on WW? Could she have met Bonnie at a WW meeting? Maybe Bonnie saw the blue sweater/sunglasses 'before' picture and did some sleuthing of her own here at LCF.
~~~N

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by Chelveston

Any idea what Bonnie's maiden name is?

Pierce

[LoraJR72]

I looked and found a possible Bonnie "Pierce" Luper using the usual Public Search Records.

[jo2621]

Originally Posted by Chelveston

Any idea what Bonnie's maiden name is?

Pierce



Jinx you owe me a diet coke

[This time]

Originally Posted by Nady

Can't help it~ it's my turn to carry the bully stick.

~~~N

[Sheridan]

Christin, glad to know you're on your way to recovery.

Originally Posted by jo2621

To all of you who think that some of are too harsh, mean, not "adult" enough for you or wasting our time or whatever, you are "preaching" to the wrong people."Its taking time away from your kids and/or family and/or excersizing and/or doing something useful"...then why are you here?

How about going after someone who deserves it?

Take a look at just a sampling of a few of these direct quote posts from Heidi from the "Ask Kimmer" thread here at LCF. I tried to find some similar posts at KK but it has been scrubbed cleaner than Mommie Dearest's bathroom.

"Retin-A has been my best friend for 15 years!"

"I want to be able to eat higher carb so I do lower calorie. My food choices tend to be pretty much the same every day:
B - Yogurt or mini 'loaded' omelette, herbal tea
S - Fruit (whatever I like, average portion or size)
L - Lean protein & salad (like a fast food grilled chicken), lowfat dressing
S - Protein salad (egg, tuna or chicken, I always have some made)
D - Lean protein, veggies (as much as desired), fruit based dessert like a baked apple or diced fruit salad"

"Cheat? No, I never do. Not because I'm a saint, but because I know it will trigger something BIG ... always has, probably always will. I find it easier to "just say no"

"I look thin (even more so after the 14 day water fast challenge!) but not overly so. I think it's because I'm large boned? A friend of mine is Asian, just absolutely TINY! She gave me a pair of jeans she didn't want anymore (size 4) and they fit us the same ... except she looks like a wisp and I look "regular". (I will eat my hat if she has EVER looked "regular".)

"Actually, I'd rather be in the size 8 range, but haven't figured out a way to do that without eating stuff that will trigger me."

"I lose differently than most people.
11 lbs overnight (water, I'm a sponge)
160 lbs total in 7 months
Last 20 lbs over 2.5 months"

"On my weekend water fasts now I lose 5-7 lbs, but I'm not in ketosis so that's 4 lbs of water which I regain when I start eating. I'm not fasting for weight loss. On my 45 day fast when I was 20, I lost 60-65 lbs, which I suppose sounds amazing although it didn't seem fast enough at the time!"

"You're in the 300 lb range so I would anticipate 8-11 lbs a week. You might consider MoM, epsom salt or other laxative either full strength 2-3 times a week or a reduced amount daily. Are you diabetic?"

"Your mention of prediabetes is very important. To avoid becoming diabetic is one of the reasons I promote rapid weight loss. I don't think enough people understand that once you become diabetic, you always are. You can manage with diet and/or meds, but you're never cured."

Do any of y'all remember those commercials for, I think it was some credit card/fraud protection, where they had actors in a given scenario (like a prim little old lady) talking but the voice you heard was that of a burly, gruff longshoreman? That's the same feeling I get whenever I re-read posts by "Kimmer". I don't see a cute smiling gal in a white top, I see something quite different. It's a very jarring experience.

The deception was so deep and happened over so many years it truly boggles the mind.

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Trying to scan some of this in order to keep my blood pressure down..

There has been and IS much work going on trying to connect Bonnie and Heidi. The fact that they both lived at the same time in Corona and we can safely assume they were both overweight at the time, they may've struck up a friendship. Hard to say!

Here are my theories...FWIW..on the possible Bonnie/Heidi connection

1. Bonnie Luper was a member at Kimkins who took money from Heidi in order to create a backup site for Kimkins which became the Magic Chicken Diet.

2. One of Bonnie's daughter(s) - we know she has at least one daughter Courtney - or DIL's, niece, or a good friend was a member at Kimkins and gave Bonnie the info she needed to start her own website.

3. Bonnie could be friends with a former Kimkins administrator who wanted to make some mega-bucks of her own and went into business with Bonnie.

4. Bonnie just heard about Kimkins, knew the potential for a diet website to take off, and decided to copy it on her own.

Again, these are just THEORIES... But, whatever the connection between Heidi and Bonnie, assuming there is one, will be found. The Tragic Chicken Diet is every bit as dangerous as Kimkins. Check Mariasol's blog for the menu and see for yourself.

I don't know how Bonnie can sleep at night. After all, the woman works in the insurance industry. Surely she MUST understand about liability.

I think these are all plausible, and fit with my own theory. The thing that strikes me is that both Bonnie and Heidi seem to be unconcerned with wrongdoing even when questioned; they both have that air of "So? And what are you going to do about it?". IMO, Bonnie could take a cue from Heidi, because Heidi is now neck deep in dealing with the consequences of quite a few somebodies "doing something about it".

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by Chelveston

Any idea what Bonnie's maiden name is?

I have not been able to find that info yet.

Oh, I see we do have a last name. Pierce. Thanks!

[LINC]

Playing devil's advocate here....................

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan