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Old 03-15-2008, 09:28 AM   #2911
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yes, rebel, and I'm not too happy about that. I sent a message that I thought it was to be kept secret so we could snoop...wonder if she will delete the post now...probably won't help now though. just can't trust anybody...lol
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:30 AM   #2912
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ya know, it is funny....they try to keep so much around here "behind the scenes" and when they get something of value, they blow it...oh well.
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yes, rebel, and I'm not too happy about that. I sent a message that I thought it was to be kept secret so we could snoop...wonder if she will delete the post now...probably won't help now though. just can't trust anybody...lol
Kat, I thought so, too. As soon as they read it here, they will be fixing that hole in their chicken wire.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:36 AM   #2914
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I agree!!
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I'm so glad this thread will go poof in a bit and maybe we can get on with business in the next one...
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ya know, it is funny....they try to keep so much around here "behind the scenes" and when they get something of value, they blow it...oh well.
Yeah, if I had known what I know now, I would have just posted it last night when I found it. Another Friday night find...
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ya know, it is funny....they try to keep so much around here "behind the scenes" and when they get something of value, they blow it...oh well.
Well, you don't have to worry about me, 'cause I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I guess that's what they mean by "blissfully ignorant".
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Yes, Barbara...you are safe but someone took some information and ran with it when they shouldn't...just don't know who you can trust here and who you can't, lol. Maybe it was just a "draw out" ploy but in my opinion, the wrong move at this time.
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I see that someone passed on some information that let the chicken out of the bag.
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Well, you don't have to worry about me, 'cause I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I guess that's what they mean by "blissfully ignorant".
Where I used to work, I was never a part of the gossip machine. I was always the last one to hear things. It was so much that way that I called myself the "village idiot", and I really was!
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Where I used to work, I was never a part of the gossip machine. I was always the last one to hear things. It was so much that way that I called myself the "village idiot", and I really was!
I know what you mean. Everybody always thinks I know all of the local gossip, but I don't. By time I find out, the baby is graduating from high school.
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Where I used to work, I was never a part of the gossip machine. I was always the last one to hear things. It was so much that way that I called myself the "village idiot", and I really was!
I TOTALLY understand. I am always the last to know at work. I guess it's because they all know I don't gossip and I don't particularly like gossip.
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They will probably be thrilled when their membership swells to 20.
Do not register over there! It is not necessary to do so. Just hit "Board index" on the login screen.

Membership is up to 21. Registering helps the chikun. Don't do it.
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think it really matters now? the duck is out of the bag....it is only a matter of time before all are blocked...this should have been kept a secret until more info was found....toooo many Ducks in the kitchen...
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think it really matters now? the duck is out of the bag....it is only a matter of time before all are blocked...this should have been kept a secret until more info was found....toooo many Ducks in the kitchen...
I totally agree! This was a very bad exposure. Geez, we look so hard to get an advantage, let's not blow it like this! We should all know by now that they are ALL reading this thread - it's been shown time and time again! I don't mind being left out of the insider info. But I would rather it be kept secret than blurted out on this forum. I don't have to know everything - and I sure as heck would like it if the Kimmer group did not know it! Geez, guys, keep it to yourselves when it's necessary!
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think it really matters now? the duck is out of the bag....it is only a matter of time before all are blocked...this should have been kept a secret until more info was found....toooo many Ducks in the kitchen...
I think having more members will help the chikun because she can say, "Look, I have ## members." If most are ducks rather then chikunses, is it really fair to the people who may have actually paid money to get into that place to have so many "just curious" members?
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I think the intention of Bonnie was to get more posting and then to find the diet, they would have to Join! She did say she was going to have a free site for people. I think it is a ploy to get more members. I don't think the Ducks need to help her in that effort. We all know how similar this is to KK and we should not be supporting it by registering to help her out. Just my .02
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Found another weed!

Here 'tis, and I still can't do anything with it.

About the Kimkins Low Carb Diet Program | Kimkins Review
Presumably Kimkins is the fastest way out of the sorrow and grief of ... As a low carb diet Kimkins works for long period of time, unlike low fat or low ...

I checked with Kimkins Review - looks like a Heidi run site; so possibly no complaints allowed.
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I think having more members will help the chikun because she can say, "Look, I have ## members." If most are ducks rather then chikunses, is it really fair to the people who may have actually paid money to get into that place to have so many "just curious" members?
It's not ours to worry about fairness to the ones who paid money to get there. That is on Bonnie's head, or whoever it was that created the website with a security hole big enough to drive a Hummer through. And so what if she can say "look, I have ## members"? It means no difference at all unless the board is teeming with posts, which it is not.
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I think the intention of Bonnie was to get more posting and then to find the diet, they would have to Join! She did say she was going to have a free site for people. I think it is a ploy to get more members. I don't think the Ducks need to help her in that effort. We all know how similar this is to KK and we should not be supporting it by registering to help her out. Just my .02
To me, it looks very similar to many other free sites, and it's a phpBB, which is a free BB system. I don't really remember what KK looks like on the inside, but pretty much if you've seen one BB, you've seen them all. Nothing to write home about.
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Here 'tis, and I still can't do anything with it.

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Presumably Kimkins is the fastest way out of the sorrow and grief of ... As a low carb diet Kimkins works for long period of time, unlike low fat or low ...

I checked with Kimkins Review - looks like a Heidi run site; so possibly no complaints allowed.
What is the link?
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Wow what the heck happened?? Posts are missing and I missed something..

Just FYI.. Yucky / Mimi and I worked together VERY closely on the CASA thing. We exchanged tons of rapid fire emails while we were working on it.. collecting names, phone numbers, etc. She was even on a trip with her hubby and we kept in touch while we were breaking this information. Please don't turn this into a "Morgan vs Mimi" thing as this was something we worked on together!

*I* made the initial calls to CA and then turned over the names, phone numbers and information I got to Mimi, who followed up on it herself. We also had help from an anonymous person from another forum who has a friend that works for the foster care agency. I never said I was the ONLY one to get this info.. but I did personally make phone calls to Casa / Foster care agencies and blogged about it LONG AGO.

The original posts about this are on MY blog (Kimkins Dangers) dated back from when I made the first call.. So please.. check the facts before typing. Geezo.

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Tooter, you know that I have a great level of respect for you, but I couldn't disagee with you more than I do on this one. This has happened time and again. Why did Morgan even think it was necessary to brag about all she had accomplished at all? Even if she did make some calls, she certainly didn't get their by herself. It is very easy to share credit by saying things like we and us, rather than I and me. Actions like this (and she is not the only one who has done such things) are simply self-serving. I KNOW Yucky. And I am 100% certain that what she said is NOT motivated by simply not caring for Morgan, as you posit. I simply can not stand back and watch Yucky be categorized in such a way and not speak up in defense against it.

If you are upset that this has come to the FWK thread, perhaps Morgan is the one you should be chastizing. After all, she is the one who deemed it necessary to bring it out here in the first place.

One thing I've noticed lately is that there has been so much talk of what does and does not belong on this thread that there isn't a whole lot of anything talked about here anymore that has much substance. The conversations where information is actually shared and people start digging is now happening behind the scenes. That is really too bad, because there are many more people who can possibly add some little memory that triggers an entire avenue of research that wasn't even thought of before. Even the trolls added things in their own way, even if only to get people looking for more Heidi aliases. Discovering connections between Heidi and other websites or other personas is vitally important. Can the lawsuit succeed without it? Yep. There is plenty there. But discovering other connections enhances it, as it does criminal charges.

Sorry to launch this off of you, Tooter. I do adore you and have learned much from you. But you aren't the only one who has been sitting on their fingers, as you say.
Erm, MomtoEli, I was not bragging at all. Deni asked about the CASA thing and I answered the questions.. If you misread that as bragging then perhaps you were projecting something onto me that is not there.

If you reread the thread you'll see that someone asked if we knew for sure if Heidi was or was not a foster parent.

My post was sharing the information that I had discovered myself, through my own phone calls. That does NOT disparage anyone else's work or efforts, but I'm not going to answer a question with information that I personally did not see / obtain firsthand, does that make sense?

If I can answer the question by saying "here is what I know and how I came to know it.." how is that bragging? And why is the Yucky stuff coming up here? I didn't mention Yucky.. You did first MomtoEli.. so who is bringing what where exactly?!

I totally don't get where your rant is coming from and frankly it doesn't make any sense to me.

But.. if someone asks a question and I can answer it with my own firsthand information, then I will do so. If that's bragging then.. well.. whatevah. lol

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Ok, Tom...time to move to #15...we all need to refocus
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Morgan, I think you and Yucky have some things to iron out offline. Why this thing was ever brought over here is beyond me. Yucky and Medusa got this whole thing started on their blogs, and that is where it should be finished. People are saying ducks shouldn't be fighting with ducks. I agree with that, but let's put the blame where it belongs. If it hadn't been blogged about, it wouldn't be a topic here. People need to quit worrying about who did what and seeing to it they get what they think is credit that is due to them.
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I'm not really worried about Yucky.. as I don't spend much time here anyway and she seems to be upset with me about something..

But the point is.. I didn't bring it up here, I didn't mention Yucky at all. I answered a question and then someone went a bit off their rocker about it all and I'm still not sure what happened.. lol.

ANYWAY.. moving on... (boggles)

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You know what? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter to a hill of beans who made what phone calls. I knew she wasn't a C.A.S.A. without calling anyone. When I was in radio, I did an interview with that organization, and I know how much work it takes to be a C.A.S.A. I never believed for a minute that she was one, and it doesn't matter who did what footwork, she admitted in her deposition that she lied about it. So I have no idea why the bloggers are fighting over the bragging rights. I'm sorry to those who don't want anyone talking about this, but I am not one to ignore the elephant in the living room.