Why the fascination with Kimmer? #14 - Page 96

jo2621 · 03-14-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I understand how many think Gary is a sock-puppet but the thing that has kept me from agreeing with this speculation is the fact that the TRUTH blogger posted a private PM between him and Heidi- The TRUTH Starts Here: Reesie and the Moles
This was an old pm, before there was knowledge that someone had access to them. At least that is my understanding of the post.

So it would argue against Gary, being a sock puppet. I mean Heidi will lie but I can't see her sending herself a pm in the admins name, before she knew about the PMs being leaked.

I also see that Gary had the responsibility of moving recipe files into categories of K/E, KK, bootcamp..etc. He also was in charge of images of the files too.
The point being that is a lot of work and Heidi would not have given it to Gary to do, if her was a sock-puppet or her, Heidi.
Heidi would have pawned the work off on a real person, because y'all know Kimmer DOES roll like that...and it would have interfered with her quality time with the Capt'n

Mrs Bee~

I think Gary was real at one time, and that was probably him that did all the work. However now all he does is say "I am maintaining" or he just posts stuff from all over the internet; inspirational passages, cutsey sayings and recipes. He cuts and pastes them directly and that is about the extent of what he does. Probably on the whole, less than 10 posts a day.

Just my humble opinion.

mrsmenopausal · 03-14-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I understand how many think Gary is a sock-puppet but the thing that has kept me from agreeing with this speculation is the fact that the TRUTH blogger posted a private PM between him and Heidi- The TRUTH Starts Here: Reesie and the Moles
This was an old pm, before there was knowledge that someone had access to them. At least that is my understanding of the post.

So it would argue against Gary, being a sock puppet. I mean Heidi will lie but I can't see her sending herself a pm in the admins name, before she knew about the PMs being leaked.

I also see that Gary had the responsibility of moving recipe files into categories of K/E, KK, bootcamp..etc. He also was in charge of images of the files too.
The point being that is a lot of work and Heidi would not have given it to Gary to do, if her was a sock-puppet or her, Heidi.
Heidi would have pawned the work off on a real person, because y'all know Kimmer DOES roll like that...and it would have interfered with her quality time with the Capt'n

I'd forgotten about those pms. Thanks.
So, I wonder why he isn't mentioned as one of those to be deposed.

MistyJ · 03-14-2008, 12:10 PM

Okay, I am reading the document... and laughing at Heidi and TT. They are both a piece of work.

I have a question that maybe somebody here can answer. Did Jonny Bowden ever post at Kimkins?

Mariasol · 03-14-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I'd forgotten about those pms. Thanks.
So, I wonder why he isn't mentioned as one of those to be deposed.

As "Gary" is not a paid admin, I'm not sure the lawsuit would apply to him.

I still think it's a sockpuppet with Brandon/Heidi taking turns to post. Heidi probably paid Brandon to help with the board transition stuff, and he did that as "Gary". JMO.

jo2621 · 03-14-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingToLive

I'm sorry but i think this is soooooo (sorry fawn moment) funny!!!

Does she really think that people are stupid? Hey wait..... she used to post a list just like this. I wonder if this is the same one LOL.

Well, she needs some help with the grocery list to get the costs down. She really needs some advise on how to eat on a budget, like us "common folk".

Skinless, boneless chicken breasts, pork tenderloin, albacore tuna, instant coffee, pre minced garlic, artichokes, asparagus, fresh mushrooms and radicchio?????

Things that make you go hummmmmm.

Awakened · 03-14-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jo2621

Mrs Bee~

I think Gary was real at one time, and that was probably him that did all the work. However now all he does is say "I am maintaining" or he just posts stuff from all over the internet; inspirational passages, cutsey sayings and recipes. He cuts and pastes them directly and that is about the extent of what he does. Probably on the whole, less than 10 posts a day.

Just my humble opinion.

I seem to agree... I do believe he was real when he first started. He was very active in the June biggest loser thread... He was in the top 3 I believe for that month and it was his first month losing.

We shared a few PM's that weren't very nice actually... I thought he was pretty much a jerk at the time and stayed away from him after that.

But.. at this point, I no longer put anything in the "impossible" category when it comes to levels Heidi will stoop to.

Katinsac · 03-14-2008, 12:19 PM

I agree, Mariasol...I don't think Gary is real. He might have been at one time but he was never paid like the others (to the best of my knowledge) so therefore, I think it is one of Heidi's sockpuppets. I also still believe Brandon knows more...just playing dumb to CYA. Mommy probably convinced him she could beat this and if he plays dumb he will be safe.

LosingToLive · 03-14-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

I agree, Mariasol...I don't think Gary is real. He might have been at one time but he was never paid like the others (to the best of my knowledge) so therefore, I think it is one of Heidi's sockpuppets. I also still believe Brandon knows more...just playing dumb to CYA. Mommy probably convinced him she could bet this and if he plays dumb he will be safe.

I agree also.

I can't believe that Brandon is playing the "I don't know" card. Come on, he's in it up to his eyes too. The apple... ya know.

Katinsac · 03-14-2008, 12:25 PM

Did I read somewhere in that paperwork where there was only 20 people at the Kimpound? Need to go back and reread again.

Katinsac · 03-14-2008, 12:29 PM

Brandon is learning a lot of the "tricks of the trade....scaming trade that is". Wonder how long before he trys something? I mean, if Heidi is broke now (yeah, right!), Brandon is going to need play money...lol. He has been exposed to scams all is life through his Mother, how can that not rub off? Maybe if he'd stayed with his Dad and the rules but with Heidi? Only a matter of time!

Katinsac · 03-14-2008, 12:32 PM

Hey, maybe the MCD is MotherChildDeception!! lol

MorganMacLeoid · 03-14-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Awakened

I'm curious about this as well.

CASA and Foster Parent are two different things. I did verify long ago with the CASA program in Riverside County that she was definitely not a CASA. They would not comment on the foster parent issue, but referred me to the State of CA Foster Parent Licensing board.. who (off the record) never heard of Heidi Diaz.

They were unable to officially tell me yes or no, but when I told them about the foster kids fundraiser, they became INCREDIBLY interested in who Heidi Diaz was. The last time I talked to them (about 2 months ago ish?) they said there was an active investigation and could not tell me anything more... so we don't know "for sure" if she was or was not a foster parent within the last 5 years.. but I got the impression that answer was an informal "no".

Magicsmom · 03-14-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Does not being a C.A.S.A mean she also did not have foster children, or are those two separate things?

They are two separate things. A foster parent takes children in and takes care of them on a daily basis in their own home. A C.A.S.A. represents children who are in the foster care system. They are the child's advocate to ensure the child's best interest is being seen to. They go to court with the child, not as a legal advisor, but as an advocate to ensure the child is not being railroaded into a situation they don't want to be in. For instance, if a child wants out of a group home or foster home situation because of abuse or problems, the C.A.S.A. works with the appropriate agency to take care of it and see that the child gets moved. They attend all the child's doctor appointments, including psychologist, visit with them weekly in the foster home or group home, and are basically on call 24/7 if the child needs them for something.

Barbara B · 03-14-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Magicsmom

They are two separate things. A foster parent takes children in and takes care of them on a daily basis in their own home. A C.A.S.A. represents children who are in the foster care system. They are the child's advocate to ensure the child's best interest is being seen to. They go to court with the child, not as a legal advisor, but as an advocate to ensure the child is not being railroaded into a situation they don't want to be in. For instance, if a child wants out of a group home or foster home situation because of abuse or problems, the C.A.S.A. works with the appropriate agency to take care of it and see that the child gets moved. They attend all the child's doctor appointments, including psychologist, visit with them weekly in the foster home or group home, and are basically on call 24/7 if the child needs them for something.

You know, I can remember from going back and reading all the Ask Kimmer threads here at LCF, that folks would post something like this:

Oh, Kimmer, what a good person you are. With all the good stuff you do with the kids, etc., you make time to come here and answer all our questions. We are so lucky to have you.

jo2621 · 03-14-2008, 12:48 PM

A week ago today I started bringing up the fact that "Gary" didn't credit his thoughts/quotes for the day, recipes etc and that the Kimmer blog has a serious problem with cut and paste with no credits either.

Well after a quick look-see it seems that "Gary" has now started using credits and on the Kimmer blog they are listing sources.

And you say you don't read over here...

Magicsmom · 03-14-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I understand how many think Gary is a sock-puppet but the thing that has kept me from agreeing with this speculation is the fact that the TRUTH blogger posted a private PM between him and Heidi- The TRUTH Starts Here: Reesie and the Moles
This was an old pm, before there was knowledge that someone had access to them. At least that is my understanding of the post.

So it would argue against Gary, being a sock puppet. I mean Heidi will lie but I can't see her sending herself a pm in the admins name, before she knew about the PMs being leaked.

I also see that Gary had the responsibility of moving recipe files into categories of K/E, KK, bootcamp..etc. He also was in charge of images of the files too.
The point being that is a lot of work and Heidi would not have given it to Gary to do, if her was a sock-puppet or her, Heidi.
Heidi would have pawned the work off on a real person, because y'all know Kimmer DOES roll like that...and it would have interfered with her quality time with the Capt'n

I think it is possible that Gary was at one time a real person who posted at KK, but who has flown the coop like so many ducks. But Heidi wants to keep the illusion that he's still posting, so she took over the role. Last summer, when I didn't even have internet, I was found active online at KK by some friends. One of them called me and asked if it was me. Of course, it was not. I wasn't posting anywhere at the time.

LosingToLive · 03-14-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jo2621

A week ago today I started bringing up the fact that "Gary" didn't credit his thoughts/quotes for the day, recipes etc and that the Kimmer blog has a serious problem with cut and paste with no credits either.

Well after a quick look-see it seems that "Gary" has now started using credits and on the Kimmer blog they are listing sources.

And you say you don't read over here...

Of course they read here, and they always have. LOL

All of them did it from the beginning of KK.

jo2621 · 03-14-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingToLive

Of course they read here, and they always have. LOL

All of them did it from the begining of KK.

I know........... isn't it nice to know we're so highly thought of and respected for our opinions and the wisdoms that we impart?

LosingToLive · 03-14-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jo2621

I know........... isn't it nice to know we're so highly thought of and respected for our opinions and the wisdoms that we impart?

What's even better is... It was *US* that came together to bring her down.

There isn't one single person that did this, we ALL did.

(But Jeanessa is the one that didn't just talk the talk, she walked the walk).

jo2621 · 03-14-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingToLive

What's even better is... It was *US* that came together to bring her down.

There isn't one single person that did this, we ALL did.

(But Jeanessa is the one that didn't just talk the talk, she walked the walk).

You got that right!

jeanessa · 03-14-2008, 01:39 PM

We are all walking the walk every day that we keep coming here, that we keep on the pressure, that we seek honest answers and that we don't give up.

LosingToLive · 03-14-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanessa

We are all walking the walk every day that we keep coming here, that we keep on the pressure, that we seek honest answers and that we don't give up.

I agree Jeanessa BUT..... it was you that took that FIRST step.
Please give yourself some credit here. You got the ducks thinking, digging, and DELIVERING.

Heck yes, we are proud of our work!! We were/are thinking outside the box and got results. But you really did take the first step to get your 39.95 back.

(it was 39 right?).

And by the way, you look wonderful today

rebel · 03-14-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanessa

We are all walking the walk every day that we keep coming here, that we keep on the pressure, that we seek honest answers and that we don't give up.

Jeanessa, Lots of people are working to get it done, but as I was reading the information from John T. last night, I told my husband that Heidi messed up when she didn't give you your money back. Just think of all the things she would have gotten away with if you hadn't started the journey.

mrsmenopausal · 03-14-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanessa

We are all walking the walk every day that we keep coming here, that we keep on the pressure, that we seek honest answers and that we don't give up.

Jeanessa, everyone has worked hard throughout all of this but you really did take the first step that lead to here. I still lol when I think about the posts of you telling Heidi to send your refund. Heidi has got to be kicking herself for not just sending you your money. heh

rebel · 03-14-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Jeanessa, everyone has worked hard throughout all of this but you really did take the first step that lead to here. I still lol when I think about the posts of you telling Heidi to send your refund. Heidi has got to be kicking herself for not just sending you your money. heh

MrsM, that's what I'm talking about. In the beginning how funny it was when Jeanessa told Heidi she wanted her money back. Those posts were hilarious.

03-14-2008, 12:19 PM	#2857
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,609 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	I agree, Mariasol...I don't think Gary is real. He might have been at one time but he was never paid like the others (to the best of my knowledge) so therefore, I think it is one of Heidi's sockpuppets. I also still believe Brandon knows more...just playing dumb to CYA. Mommy probably convinced him she could beat this and if he plays dumb he will be safe. Last edited by Katinsac : 03-14-2008 at 12:21 PM.

03-14-2008, 12:48 PM	#2865
jo2621 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: AL Posts: 696 Gallery: jo2621 Stats: 225/143/140 (5'5") WOE: LC Start Date: June 2007	and they say they don't check up on us A week ago today I started bringing up the fact that "Gary" didn't credit his thoughts/quotes for the day, recipes etc and that the Kimmer blog has a serious problem with cut and paste with no credits either. Well after a quick look-see it seems that "Gary" has now started using credits and on the Kimmer blog they are listing sources. And you say you don't read over here...

03-14-2008, 12:10 PM	#2853
MistyJ Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 292 Gallery: MistyJ WOE: Moderate Carbs	Okay, I am reading the document... and laughing at Heidi and TT. They are both a piece of work. I have a question that maybe somebody here can answer. Did Jonny Bowden ever post at Kimkins?

03-14-2008, 12:25 PM	#2859
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,609 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Did I read somewhere in that paperwork where there was only 20 people at the Kimpound? Need to go back and reread again.

03-14-2008, 12:29 PM	#2860
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,609 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Brandon is learning a lot of the "tricks of the trade....scaming trade that is". Wonder how long before he trys something? I mean, if Heidi is broke now (yeah, right!), Brandon is going to need play money...lol. He has been exposed to scams all is life through his Mother, how can that not rub off? Maybe if he'd stayed with his Dad and the rules but with Heidi? Only a matter of time!

03-14-2008, 12:32 PM	#2861
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,609 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Hey, maybe the MCD is MotherChildDeception!! lol

03-14-2008, 01:39 PM	#2871
jeanessa Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Great Lakes State Posts: 567 Gallery: jeanessa Stats: 289.6/289.6/??? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 4/19/08	We are all walking the walk every day that we keep coming here, that we keep on the pressure, that we seek honest answers and that we don't give up.