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Old 03-14-2008, 08:24 AM   #2821
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Oh but can't you see Gary?

I think he is one of those poly cotton little old man argyle socks.

And just imagine him riding shotgun in the front seat of the old mini van singing along to Julio Iglaias. Then he gets propped up in the little red cart at CVS. I wonder if he has a little plaid porkpie hat and driving glasses too?

I'm willing to bet that as much as Heidi and Gary both quote "the Oprah" that he is her Lazy Boy/TV watchin partner too.

Gary sends his love.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:25 AM   #2822
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We certainly did, Tooter!

And, one of the pages in that document states that Heidi admitted (finally) that she never was a C.A.S.A. I'm particularly proud of that one personally. Seems soooooooooooo long ago that we discovered that factoid.

I don't think I'm mad at Heidi anymore. Now I just sit here and laugh at her pathetic-ness. Anyone that has to spend that much time a day organizing her sock drawer.. err sock puppets and trying to cover her web of lies in front of the world.. well its kinda funny, actually. Hmm.. I'm feeling a new blog post coming on.. lol.

As far as Brandon not having a bed.. who is to say that that's even true? Or that he didn't want one or that he liked his "broken" bed (define broken.. no frame? maybe he liked it on the floor.. ) or did she mean the bunk beds that he had in his old room that he took the bottom part off and used the underneath area as his computer station? (Pics of it were in his video thingy on myspace). That's only "broken" by a loose definition considering he even said somewhere that he liked it (on his corrupted canvas website I believe). So that whole thing is just another "spin", I'm sure.
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Gary sends his love.

OMG Barbara, did you hire a PI to get that? He is looking good.

I had heard that he was having some severe slippage problems (couldn't stay up) due to his Ban-Lon elastic roll being splashed with the Capt'n so much.

I guess he finally got some of those "garters" to help him out with that problem!
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There are a few people caught up in this saga with Kimmer that I almost feel sorry for. Let's face it, Heidi has a talent for picking people with just the right mixture of some intelligence, low-level of scruples, and a moderate to high amount of desperation to help her do her dirty work. By the time they realize they've been had, they're culpable and don't know where to turn - in some cases. But that's no excuse and I hope you get what's coming to you too!

You know, we've all talked about how we can't wait to see Heidi in a state-issued orange jumpsuit. Wouldn't it be funny if, instead of making license plates, the prison where Heidi winds up has prisoners making socks?! I would LOVE that!


Nah, she's already had plenty of experience making socks... or at least making them into puppets.

What she needs now is some experience making rubber ducks, stuffed ducks, duck printed t-shirts, duck slippers...
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OMG Barbara, did you hire a PI to get that? He is looking good.

I had heard that he was having some severe slippage problems (couldn't stay up) due to his Ban-Lon elastic roll being splashed with the Capt'n so much.

I guess he finally got some of those "garters" to help him out with that problem!

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We certainly did, Tooter!

And, one of the pages in that document states that Heidi admitted (finally) that she never was a C.A.S.A. I'm particularly proud of that one personally. Seems soooooooooooo long ago that we discovered that factoid.

I don't think I'm mad at Heidi anymore. Now I just sit here and laugh at her pathetic-ness. Anyone that has to spend that much time a day organizing her sock drawer.. err sock puppets and trying to cover her web of lies in front of the world.. well its kinda funny, actually. Hmm.. I'm feeling a new blog post coming on.. lol.

As far as Brandon not having a bed.. who is to say that that's even true? Or that he didn't want one or that he liked his "broken" bed (define broken.. no frame? maybe he liked it on the floor.. ) or did she mean the bunk beds that he had in his old room that he took the bottom part off and used the underneath area as his computer station? (Pics of it were in his video thingy on myspace). That's only "broken" by a loose definition considering he even said somewhere that he liked it (on his corrupted canvas website I believe). So that whole thing is just another "spin", I'm sure.

Does not being a C.A.S.A mean she also did not have foster children, or are those two separate things?
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:25 AM   #2829
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Thanks so much for posting this. It is just fascinating and does indeed represent everyone's hard work and effort.
I was thinking that as I read through it. This was definitely a team effort! I still remember when the brides were getting discovered. Those were exciting days!

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FYI..it is not a good idea to read Heidi's court document right before one goes to bedyou'll never fall asleep. At least, that's what is happening to me tonight.
Isn't it astounding how she admits to lie after lie after lie after lie? And put it in context with the fact that after that first depo, she went to KK and posted that it "went well" and that John T. had advised her on how to improve the business practices at KK. As has been stated many times, big huge brass ones!

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My absolute favorite part of the entire document:

And the Duck Squad played an integral part!
Barbara, it is my favorite part too, and yes, the Ducks are responsible for Heidi being under the microscope at the AG's office.

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Well, she probably let them take their beds with them. I mean, that IS what the fundraiser was for.

And how about that fund raiser? Did I misread that or was it Tippy Toes who told her how to cover her substantial rear end just in case that whole thing was looked at from a "legal" perspective? I so see why TT wanted immunity ... there is conspiracy written all over this.
Yes, that fundraiser thing was one giant scam. Both Heidi and TT knew it. Just because she has immunity in the lawsuit does not mean she has it with the state of California. I don't know what law they broke, but I am sure they broke one.

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I'm really surprised there hasn't been a hundred pages since the deposition information was released last night. I guess you all are like me - unsure where to start!!!

I don't know how ANYONE can stand by Heidi Diaz any more.

Everyone was too busy reading to post! And I was thinking the same thing this morning - how can ANYONE want to be her friend after the things that have come to light about her? It amazes me. SL must have some mental deficiency.

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We certainly did, Tooter!

And, one of the pages in that document states that Heidi admitted (finally) that she never was a C.A.S.A. I'm particularly proud of that one personally. Seems soooooooooooo long ago that we discovered that factoid.
Yes, we did call it early on! I said from day one there is no way she was a C.A.S.A. If you believe the agoraphobia story (I don't!), then you know that there is no way she could perform the duties of a C.A.S.A. They go to court with the child, go to the doctor with the child, visit with them weekly wherever they live, and have a lot of footwork to do outside of those activities. But I always thought that Heidi was far too selfish to be a C.A.S.A. anyway.
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I said from day one there is no way she was a C.A.S.A. If you believe the agoraphobia story (I don't!), then you know that there is no way she could perform the duties of a C.A.S.A. They go to court with the child, go to the doctor with the child, visit with them weekly wherever they live, and have a lot of footwork to do outside of those activities. But I always thought that Heidi was far too selfish to be a C.A.S.A. anyway.

I came to the KK saga a little later than most of you, but as I read back through the AK archives, I couldn't imagine that it was even possible for one person to do all the stuff she claimed she did - CASA, foster kids, volunteering here and there - she'd have to be 3 people to do all that!

And the real kicker was that in spite of doing the full time work of at least 3 people, she somehow found hour upon hour upon hour every day to post on LCF? (And I know I missed a lot of it, because I wasn't here when she was holding court in the main lobby) And then once she started KK, she had time to post there practically around the clock?

That was the biggest tip-off to the beginning of her lies. Took it all too far. It might have been almost believable without all the extraneous lies that claimed she was doing more work than it would be possible to fit into a 24 hour day.

Until the PI photos, that is.
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I think Kimmer missed her calling, she would have made a great writer of fiction and she wouldn't have her sizeable 'assets' be the subject of so much fodder!

For someone who was known for reading others PM she certainly did forget that her words could haunt her. Apparently she didn't think anyone would keep her writings for future reference!
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I came to the KK saga a little later than most of you, but as I read back through the AK archives, I couldn't imagine that it was even possible for one person to do all the stuff she claimed she did - CASA, foster kids, volunteering here and there - she'd have to be 3 people to do all that!

And the real kicker was that in spite of doing the full time work of at least 3 people, she somehow found hour upon hour upon hour every day to post on LCF? (And I know I missed a lot of it, because I wasn't here when she was holding court in the main lobby) And then once she started KK, she had time to post there practically around the clock?

That was the biggest tip-off to the beginning of her lies. Took it all too far. It might have been almost believable without all the extraneous lies that claimed she was doing more work than it would be possible to fit into a 24 hour day.

Until the PI photos, that is.
You didn't miss much in the early saga here at LCF. The poo poo was as deep then as it is now. LOL

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Does not being a C.A.S.A mean she also did not have foster children, or are those two separate things?


I'm curious about this as well.
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You didn't miss much in the early saga here at LCF. The poo poo was as deep then as it is now. LOL

Oh and Hi Heidi

Yeah, I kinda gathered that it was seriously deep.

I just meant that coming in so late, I don't have any idea of the sheer volume of posts she made on here back then, even though I know there were a LOT more than what showed up on AK, and she supposedly did all this while doing numerous jobs and outside activities that would have easily precluded any possibility of spending that many hours on LCF, even if she never took the time to sleep or wash down a sugar cookie with a tumbler of Cap'n.
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This is from a post by a "new member" yesterday from one of the journals on the home page asking the featured gal a question:

"Hi! This is XXXXXX. I just started on 3/11/2008. You lost all that weight on Kimkins? How wonderful is that? I have been on soo many diets it's hard for me to actually "believe" that. Ya know? You absolutely look marvelous. You know I watched all the hype about Kimkins and the legal issues and so forth and I guess what I am getting at without being ugly is are you sure you didn't pull a "Kimmer." You know post someone els's pic?"

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"XXXXXX, if you're here to be supportive and lose weight, then you're welcome and we're glad to help. If you're here to start trouble, save yourself the time."

Gee Heidi, whatcha so touchy for??? Is it all too much for you, especially with John T's foot on your neck?
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And you've got to be one big loser of a mother, when your own kid doesn't even have a bed to sleep in. I mean in my 20's I was dirt poor, and my kids always had a bed to sleep in.
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Thanks Jeanessa for the information on the lawsuit blog! It always helps morale to get a status update!
Believe it or not, I haven't been able to read it yet. I pulled it up and then had to make a leprechaun trap...LOL
Funny, but true. My 5 y.o had that for a project this week.
Thanks also to John Tiedt! Have a good weekend Chica-

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...[...]...I wish Flippy Tippy was not granted immunity:In my humble opinion, she is just as guilty as Heidi, if not more. Her eyes were opened up to the fact that Heidi was a fraud and was running a scamming website and hurting hundreds of unsuspecting subscribers. She didn't give an F'n "flip"! Grrr.....To be continued...
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I totally agree Lynn. I didn't understand what Tippy could give to the lawsuit that was either; pieces that were *not* already knowledge of the case or could pieces that couldn't be dug up if needed. But the immunity is for this case, only.....hmmmm....maybe that explains why Tippy has now said that she recognizes the dangers of the kimkins diet plan and now she has people telling her of those side-effects.
News flash Tippy, they were telling you before but you called them terrorists, haters, negative nancies and banned them!

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I don't know how anyone can stand by her, either. There's the admission of fraud, right there in Heidi's own words.
And now SL is going to be depo'd. I wonder how she feels about that. I wonder why Gary isn't being depo'd.
Oh, I can't wait until they ask about the threatening phone calls...well, if that is asked, I should say.
I don't think at the deposition SL will be able to avoid the questions by saying her comments are being moderated- as if that mattered with her posting the truth here. I also don't think John will accept this phrase either; "I don't want to cause any problems."...
Man, I would love to be John that day. Hey, John do you need any help, because I have a list of questions that I have been asking since September to SL.
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There are a few people caught up in this saga with Kimmer that I almost feel sorry for. Let's face it, Heidi has a talent for picking people with just the right mixture of some intelligence, low-level of scruples, and a moderate to high amount of desperation to help her do her dirty work. By the time they realize they've been had, they're culpable and don't know where to turn - in some cases. But that's no excuse and I hope you get what's coming to you too!
And those, because there is more than TT, who had knowledge of the fraud or the potential that there was fraud being committed, before they took their Admin/staff position at Kimkins, really should be viewed differently than those considered to have been duped or victimized by Heidi.

They may like to lump themselves in that group for the pc sound of it, but the facts will all come out in the end and in my opinion they should be viewed differently, not just by us - but by the legal system.
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Yeah, I kinda gathered that it was seriously deep.

I just meant that coming in so late, I don't have any idea of the sheer volume of posts she made on here back then, even though I know there were a LOT more than what showed up on AK, and she supposedly did all this while doing numerous jobs and outside activities that would have easily precluded any possibility of spending that many hours on LCF, even if she never took the time to sleep or wash down a sugar cookie with a tumbler of Cap'n.
I understood And yes, I'm sure she's calling the Cap'n every day now.

But we aren't done digging yet, there are just so many things that aren't making sense.
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I wonder why Gary isn't being depo'd.

Ummm, let's see

1. The dog ate him.
2. Dropped out of basket at "Suds and Duds" Wash-e-teria.
3. Got a stress fracture hole in him and had to go to the darning basket.
4. Lost a Woggley-eye when he went along to CVS for supplies.
5. Fell in love with a tube sock and eloped.

I'm about to wet myself! Stop!
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