Why the fascination with Kimmer? #14 - Page 87

NancyElle · 03-10-2008, 10:40 AM

I'm new to this sleuthing, but I looked up that web address to see who it was registered to. Here's the info.

Domain ID19117004-LRMS
Domain Name:KIMKINS-DIET.INFO
Created On:24-Jul-2007 08:29:38 UTC
Last Updated On:22-Sep-2007 20:32:15 UTC
Expiration Date:24-Jul-2008 08:29:38 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-035294317
Registrant Name:Hazel leong
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:melaka
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:melaka
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:70450
Registrant Country:MY
Registrant Phone:+60.60126018096
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:hazelleo@gmail.com
Admin ID:GODA-235294317
Admin Name:Hazel leong
Admin Organization:
Admin Street1:melaka
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:melaka
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code:70450
Admin Country:MY
Admin Phone:+60.60126018096
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:hazelleo@gmail.com
Billing ID:GODA-335294317
Billing Name:Hazel leong
Billing Organization:
Billing Street1:melaka
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:melaka
Billing State/Province:
Billing Postal Code:70450
Billing Country:MY
Billing Phone:+60.60126018096
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:hazelleo@gmail.com
Tech ID:GODA-135294317
Tech Name:Hazel leong
Tech Organization:
Tech Street1:melaka
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:melaka
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:70450
Tech Country:MY
Tech Phone:+60.60126018096
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:hazelleo@gmail.com
Name Server:NS343.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM
Name Server:NS344.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM

NancyElle · 03-10-2008, 10:43 AM

oh, here is more.....
NOTICE IT SAYS DALLAS TEXAS!!!!!!!

Isn't Bonnie Chicken Lady in Texas????????? (I don't know if this all adds up or not!

IP Address:74.52.113.226 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) IP Location:US(UNITED STATES)-TEXAS-DALLAS Record Type:Domain Name Server Type:Apache 1 Web Site Status:Active DMOZ no listings Y! Directory: see listings Web Site Title:Kimkins Meta Description:Kimkins information Meta Keywords:Kimkins Secure:No E-commerce:No Traffic Ranking:Not available Data as of:05-Jan-2008

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

oh, here is more.....
NOTICE IT SAYS DALLAS TEXAS!!!!!!!

Isn't Bonnie Chicken Lady in Texas????????? (I don't know if this all adds up or not!

IP Address:74.52.113.226 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) IP Location:US(UNITED STATES)-TEXAS-DALLAS Record Type:Domain Name Server Type:Apache 1 Web Site Status:Active DMOZ no listings Y! Directory: see listings Web Site Title:Kimkins Meta Description:Kimkins information Meta Keywords:Kimkins Secure:No E-commerce:No Traffic Ranking:Not available Data as of:05-Jan-2008

that is the IP for the server where the site is hosted---it has nothing to do with Kimkins---although the copyrighted materials found on the site are in violation of the servers TOS and they have been contacted

screen shots have been made of this and other affiliate sites still showing the fake pics and were added by several people to their IC3 reports

Hazel is a long time affiliate of Kimkins and any contact we have had with her goes ignored---her and Wouter are the strongest affiliates Heidi has at this time---they just don't realize they too can be implicated in perpetrating a fraud---either that or they just don't care

NancyElle · 03-10-2008, 11:10 AM

Well I'll be.......here is another for your Monday reading pleasure!

Kimkins Diet

NancyElle · 03-10-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaGal

that is the IP for the server where the site is hosted---it has nothing to do with Kimkins---although the copyrighted materials found on the site are in violation of the servers TOS and they have been contacted

screen shots have been made of this and other affiliate sites still showing the fake pics and were added by several people to their IC3 reports

Hazel is a long time affiliate of Kimkins and any contact we have had with her goes ignored---her and Wouter are the strongest affiliates Heidi has at this time---they just don't realize they too can be implicated in perpetrating a fraud---either that or they just don't care

My bad.....I'm new at this!

Just trying to help.

jo2621 · 03-10-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

OMG! I just checked the comments section over at my blog and one of the ads that's been placed there is advertising for "pretty Mexican brides"

I'd like to be the first to predict a new round of success stories over at Kimkins, starring ladies who've been successful depsite being surrounded by tortillas, chips and salsa, and guacamole!

You forgot the Margaritas! Fiesta!

Mariasol · 03-10-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

My bad.....I'm new at this!

Just trying to help.

Please don't feel bad

and don't stop looking. While we have seen these particular sites before, you might come across something that hasn't been discovered.

jo2621 · 03-10-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

My bad.....I'm new at this!

Just trying to help.

That's okay NE.

I am now on what I am thinking is wild Chicken chase myself, that I have been sent on by one of the masterminds.

I think I could have carpal tunnel. I am starting to see spots before my eyes and have hallucinations about Magic Chickens dancing across the computer screen but doggone it I ain't give'n up yet

Jo

Violet Skye · 03-10-2008, 11:31 AM

NE, the link you posted contains this mathematically impossible little gem:

Quote:

Kimmer, the creator of the Kimkins diet, herself lost almost 200% of her original 318 pounds through her diet and has since kept it all off.

pooticus · 03-10-2008, 11:35 AM

I always thought Wouter was a sockpupper? Is he real then?

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

My bad.....I'm new at this!

Just trying to help.

you are doing great

----keep trying to help----we all miss some things when searching---anything you turn up is a good thing---I'd personally rather see duplicate stuff myself than for people to think someone else has got it and then no one gets it---know what I mean.....

I've seen this happen too often through out this saga---

please keep on looking for things---you may find something others have missed along the way---you'd be surprised where KK links can show up...

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooticus

I always thought Wouter was a sockpupper? Is he real then?

Wouter is definitely real ----He is a big time online affiliate with fingers in alot of pies---he's one of those with no scruples either---guess that's why we thought he was Heidi for so long

Now---how are you doing??? good to see you popping in....

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo2621

That's okay NE.

I am now on what I am thinking is wild Chicken chase myself, that I have been sent on by one of the masterminds.

I think I could have carpal tunnel. I am starting to see spots before my eyes and have hallucinations about Magic Chickens dancing across the computer screen but doggone it I ain't give'n up yet

Jo

you aren't the only one....

I've actually had nightmares about chasing down the tragic chicken connection....it's that whole conspiracy theorist in me....

Mayberryfan · 03-10-2008, 11:54 AM

Okay, I thought Wouter was a sock-puppet too!

Same goes for Hazel Leong. I have heard that name here before and assumed it was a Heidi alias.

Wonder if Hazel has a fondness for cabana boys? Bless her heart!

OhYeahBabe · 03-10-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

NE, the link you posted contains this mathematically impossible little gem:

Cool - she vaporized herself! I wish!

LosingToLive · 03-10-2008, 12:08 PM

Ok where is QueenBee? Will someone please put an APB out on her? If you find her tell her to check her PM's and email. Time sensitive . Thank you!

LL

Tammy_girl12 · 03-10-2008, 12:17 PM

Can anyone simply tell me what is going on now with the Kimkins lawsuit. Is she in jail yet, has her website been closed. An outline of what is happening would be great, as I simply could not go thru all these pages!

Thanks!

jeanessa · 03-10-2008, 12:24 PM

Tammy, visit the Kimkins lawsuit blog in my signature for the latest.

LINC · 03-10-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Same goes for Hazel Leong. I have heard that name here before and assumed it was a Heidi alias.

I thought the same thing. She's got an article out there on Heidi's hair disease and even wrote an article about how depriving yourself of nutrients can cause hair loss too. Gee, I wonder if Heidi actually used her own site members' experiences as research for that.

Lou

NancyElle · 03-10-2008, 01:31 PM

Ya'll are all so sweet!

I'm gonna keep trying to dig up dirt for the cause.

I never paid that "chick" (

) any money, but I'll help you in your fight to bring her to justice. Thanks for making me feel welcome!

pooticus · 03-10-2008, 02:04 PM

Bama. It's two steps forward one step back for me on a daily basis but I thank God for each day regardless!!!

Hope you are doing well!

Wouter was one of the "attackers" in the early days. He ripped me a new one and posted a ton on VLCDs and calorie restriction/Dr. Fuhrman et al...Kimmer, might Kimmer, the new jesus of the VLCD world...*gag*.

So I really figured it was Kimmer as her sockpuppet Wouter. Errr I really can't stand him.

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 02:30 PM

Mayberryfan has a new post check it out y'all

As the Magic Chicken Turns?

pooticus---there was a wouter in the early days????

hmmmm...

We've been told by good authority that Heidi is not Wouter.....but it is odd that he shows up in the early days.....interesting....

As for Hazel she is in Malaysa or some Asian country--I forget....

We have been quite successful in getting some of the other major affiliate sites down....

our biggest problem has been the 40,000+ article sites that pop up---then you have the spam blogs and bot blogs just using a few keywords to scrape content from these article sites and spread them across the net---that's how we came to call them weeds----the minute you pull one 2 pop up in it's place.

At least now we have some of the original authors helping us to pull the ones they wrote----but old wouter and his weeds keep spreading....

Barbara B · 03-10-2008, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NancyElle

Ya'll are all so sweet!

I'm gonna keep trying to dig up dirt for the cause.

I never paid that "chick" (

) any money, but I'll help you in your fight to bring her to justice. Thanks for making me feel welcome!

Nancy, I never joined her site or followed her advice either, but that does NOT stop me from being a Detective Duck. Ha Ha! Welcome! It is so nice to have another Ducky!

BamaGal · 03-10-2008, 04:18 PM

Hey y'all Jeanessa has a new blog post----head over there and show her some love....

Rough Weekend...

WildAngel6 · 03-10-2008, 04:44 PM

Another victim of the Kimkins Diet Scam:

Mag apologizes for Kimkins story - That's Fit

But as a victim myself, I am happy to see anything that exposes Kimkins. No, I didn't pay membership fees and I've never followed the "diet." But the woman running the show did steal my words from another web site to put up on her own. She gave credit to the web site, but not to me. Either way, she never sought permission to publish the article. And when asked to remove it from her site, simply switched the accessibility of the page to members only.

03-10-2008, 10:43 AM	#2582
NancyElle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca.....My heart is in Taos, New Mexico! Posts: 519 Gallery: NancyElle Stats: 12/6/4 5'9 RUNNING AND LIFTING!!!!! WOE: Low Carb Start Date: everyday~all the time	oh, here is more..... NOTICE IT SAYS DALLAS TEXAS!!!!!!! Isn't Bonnie Chicken Lady in Texas????????? (I don't know if this all adds up or not! IP Address:74.52.113.226 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) IP Location:US(UNITED STATES)-TEXAS-DALLAS Record Type:Domain Name Server Type:Apache 1 Web Site Status:Active DMOZ no listings Y! Directory: see listings Web Site Title:Kimkins Meta Description:Kimkins information Meta Keywords:Kimkins Secure:No E-commerce:No Traffic Ranking:Not available Data as of:05-Jan-2008 Last edited by NancyElle : 03-10-2008 at 10:45 AM.

03-10-2008, 01:31 PM	#2600
NancyElle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca.....My heart is in Taos, New Mexico! Posts: 519 Gallery: NancyElle Stats: 12/6/4 5'9 RUNNING AND LIFTING!!!!! WOE: Low Carb Start Date: everyday~all the time	Ya'll are all so sweet! I'm gonna keep trying to dig up dirt for the cause. I never paid that "chick" () any money, but I'll help you in your fight to bring her to justice. Thanks for making me feel welcome!

03-10-2008, 10:40 AM	#2581
NancyElle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca.....My heart is in Taos, New Mexico! Posts: 519 Gallery: NancyElle Stats: 12/6/4 5'9 RUNNING AND LIFTING!!!!! WOE: Low Carb Start Date: everyday~all the time	I'm new to this sleuthing, but I looked up that web address to see who it was registered to. Here's the info. Domain ID19117004-LRMS Domain Name:KIMKINS-DIET.INFO Created On:24-Jul-2007 08:29:38 UTC Last Updated On:22-Sep-2007 20:32:15 UTC Expiration Date:24-Jul-2008 08:29:38 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS) Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID:GODA-035294317 Registrant Name:Hazel leong Registrant Organization: Registrant Street1:melaka Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:melaka Registrant State/Province: Registrant Postal Code:70450 Registrant Country:MY Registrant Phone:+60.60126018096 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:hazelleo@gmail.com Admin ID:GODA-235294317 Admin Name:Hazel leong Admin Organization: Admin Street1:melaka Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:melaka Admin State/Province: Admin Postal Code:70450 Admin Country:MY Admin Phone:+60.60126018096 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:hazelleo@gmail.com Billing ID:GODA-335294317 Billing Name:Hazel leong Billing Organization: Billing Street1:melaka Billing Street2: Billing Street3: Billing City:melaka Billing State/Province: Billing Postal Code:70450 Billing Country:MY Billing Phone:+60.60126018096 Billing Phone Ext.: Billing FAX: Billing FAX Ext.: Billing Email:hazelleo@gmail.com Tech ID:GODA-135294317 Tech Name:Hazel leong Tech Organization: Tech Street1:melaka Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:melaka Tech State/Province: Tech Postal Code:70450 Tech Country:MY Tech Phone:+60.60126018096 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX: Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:hazelleo@gmail.com Name Server:NS343.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM Name Server:NS344.WEBSITEWELCOME.COM

03-10-2008, 11:10 AM	#2584
NancyElle Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca.....My heart is in Taos, New Mexico! Posts: 519 Gallery: NancyElle Stats: 12/6/4 5'9 RUNNING AND LIFTING!!!!! WOE: Low Carb Start Date: everyday~all the time	Well I'll be.......here is another for your Monday reading pleasure! Kimkins Diet

03-10-2008, 11:35 AM	#2590
pooticus Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 15,846 Gallery: pooticus Stats: 314/268.4/150 WOE: PersonalPlan Start Date: Nov.20, 2007	I always thought Wouter was a sockpupper? Is he real then?

03-10-2008, 11:54 AM	#2594
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,438 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Okay, I thought Wouter was a sock-puppet too! Same goes for Hazel Leong. I have heard that name here before and assumed it was a Heidi alias. Wonder if Hazel has a fondness for cabana boys? Bless her heart!

03-10-2008, 12:08 PM	#2596
LosingToLive Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 699 Gallery: LosingToLive Start Date: 2000/old board / goal /2-6-01	Ok where is QueenBee? Will someone please put an APB out on her? If you find her tell her to check her PM's and email. Time sensitive . Thank you! LL

03-10-2008, 12:17 PM	#2597
Tammy_girl12 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CANADA Posts: 1,232 Gallery: Tammy_girl12 Stats: 233/206/170 - Restart on Dr. B 224/201/170 WOE: Dr. B Start Date: Restart May 13, 2008	Can anyone simply tell me what is going on now with the Kimkins lawsuit. Is she in jail yet, has her website been closed. An outline of what is happening would be great, as I simply could not go thru all these pages! Thanks!

03-10-2008, 12:24 PM	#2598
jeanessa Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Great Lakes State Posts: 573 Gallery: jeanessa Stats: 289.6/289.6/??? WOE: Atkins Start Date: 4/19/08	Tammy, visit the Kimkins lawsuit blog in my signature for the latest.

03-10-2008, 02:04 PM	#2601
pooticus Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 15,846 Gallery: pooticus Stats: 314/268.4/150 WOE: PersonalPlan Start Date: Nov.20, 2007	Bama. It's two steps forward one step back for me on a daily basis but I thank God for each day regardless!!! Hope you are doing well! Wouter was one of the "attackers" in the early days. He ripped me a new one and posted a ton on VLCDs and calorie restriction/Dr. Fuhrman et al...Kimmer, might Kimmer, the new jesus of the VLCD world...gag. So I really figured it was Kimmer as her sockpuppet Wouter. Errr I really can't stand him.

03-10-2008, 02:30 PM	#2602
BamaGal MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montevallo, AL Posts: 1,141 Blog Entries: 9 Gallery: BamaGal Stats: 375/160 WOE: Ketogenic-Very high fat Start Date: January 2004	Mayberryfan has a new post check it out y'all As the Magic Chicken Turns? pooticus---there was a wouter in the early days???? hmmmm... We've been told by good authority that Heidi is not Wouter.....but it is odd that he shows up in the early days.....interesting.... As for Hazel she is in Malaysa or some Asian country--I forget.... We have been quite successful in getting some of the other major affiliate sites down.... our biggest problem has been the 40,000+ article sites that pop up---then you have the spam blogs and bot blogs just using a few keywords to scrape content from these article sites and spread them across the net---that's how we came to call them weeds----the minute you pull one 2 pop up in it's place. At least now we have some of the original authors helping us to pull the ones they wrote----but old wouter and his weeds keep spreading....

03-10-2008, 04:18 PM	#2604
BamaGal MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montevallo, AL Posts: 1,141 Blog Entries: 9 Gallery: BamaGal Stats: 375/160 WOE: Ketogenic-Very high fat Start Date: January 2004	Hey y'all Jeanessa has a new blog post----head over there and show her some love.... Rough Weekend...