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Old 03-06-2008, 10:30 AM   #2341
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Excellent point WA6!!

I'm remembering that we were discussing the number of ways Bonnie Luper, aka the Magic Chicken Lady, could be in cahoots with Heidi.

Now, just because you don't see us posting about MCD doesn't mean we aren't looking!
I bet you a bucket of Cleo's delish hot wings that we were talking about that damn chicken site too. I mean what the french toast?!?...Would someone figure out how Heidi is connected to that site already!?!??!.

Let me ask y'all this. How could we find out.... or .....how would we know if that site has like a hidden board? You know like a thread only some can see. Because that site has been dead since the "update"...so where did they all go? It's like a secret club house and we don't know the pass word maybe.
Ok, think about that and figure out how we can prove or disprove it. I got to find a missing sock...sock puppet that is...

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Old 03-06-2008, 10:35 AM   #2342
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Honey, didn't Bonnie mention that she was going to start something like 4 sites and one would be free? It probably has a different name now...just a thought.
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jeanessa - I LOVED your blog. You said exactly how I feel. I left a comment on it too.

I see your persistance as being that of a fed up consumer activist who saw what needed to be done and you stepped up and did it, and I think everyone here (the ducks at least) is very proud of you and supports you in all you have done, and the race issue would never even have come up, except for fawn using it.
See~ I thought that was funny~ I've known people of every ethnic background that had the same *over the top* behavior~ it's got nothing to do with color, just a "the world owes me" attitude. The idea that Fawn is foolish enough to think it's because she's 'ebony' is laughable!

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Diana- exactly what I thought while reading her post! Can't believe anyone..especially a woman could be so STUPID to do what she did.


The more I read from her the stranger she sounds...half of what she says makes no sense and the other half is just weird. She is either dripping sweetness or wildly raging!

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Exactly. I hate the racial implications that a post like Fawn's infers. I don't think that my persistence against Heidi has been any different than just about everyone else's. I may go about it in a different way, but I think that is unique to me as an individual, not necessarily as a "black woman".
None of it makes sense... I am calling her bluff.....
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I HATE to tell Fawn, but Heidi doesn't give a tinkers you-know-what about Fawn being black. It has NOTHING to do with anything, as far as Kimmer is concerned. Kimmer wanted Fawn around because she loved the adoration. And, let's face it, Fawn's post did get people talking, here and there! Kimmer definitely subscribes to the notion that all publicity is good as long as they spell the name right.

Fawn, my dear, you've been used by Heidi, and some think ( Medusa) you still ARE being used by Heidi. And, once you've outlived your usefulness to Heidi, she will discard you. Not because you are black. It's because the only person Heidi gives a rat's behind about is herself.

There's only one color in Heidi's world. Green. As in MONEY. If you can help her make some more, then you're good. If you can't or WON'T then you don't exist to her.
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Geez Louise, this Fawn stuff is waaayyyy too out there....

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None of it makes sense... I am calling her bluff.....
I agree with you. I don't think she's a real person. I am getting the same feeling I got about Heidi years ago. Something is NOT right here.
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I HATE to tell Fawn, but Heidi doesn't give a tinkers you-know-what about Fawn being black. It has NOTHING to do with anything, as far as Kimmer is concerned. Kimmer wanted Fawn around because she loved the adoration. And, let's face it, Fawn's post did get people talking, here and there! Kimmer definitely subscribes to the notion that all publicity is good as long as they spell the name right.

Fawn, my dear, you've been used by Heidi, and some think ( Medusa) you still ARE being used by Heidi. And, once you've outlived your usefulness to Heidi, she will discard you. Not because you are black. It's because the only person Heidi gives a rat's behind about is herself.

There's only one color in Heidi's world. Green. As in MONEY. If you can help her make some more, then you're good. If you can't or WON'T then you don't exist to her.
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I bet you a bucket of Cleo's delish hot wings that we were talking about that damn chicken site too. I mean what the french toast?!?...Would someone figure out how Heidi is connected to that site already!?!??!.

Let me ask y'all this. How could we find out.... or .....how would we know if that site has like a hidden board? You know like a thread only some can see. Because that site has been dead since the "update"...so where did they all go? It's like a secret club house and we don't know the pass word maybe.
Ok, think about that and figure out how we can prove or disprove it. I got to find a missing sock...sock puppet that is...

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Honey, I'm working silly
If I don't work, I don't get money, if I don't get money... I have to move the family in with yours. I'd move in with MrsMo but she doesn't do dishes.

I asked your question here, and what I got was a bunch of mumbo jumbo. When I made a funny face, he told me that all you have to do is "direct your address to go somewhere else". He said you can keep the address but let only certain people know about "what to ADD on to the address you type in)

He said you could also do it so you have to be a member so long or a certain number of posts before being able to reach that certain board. I guess that would be like the "playground" here.

Did any of that make sense?

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He said you could also do it so you have to be a member so long or a certain number of posts before being able to reach that certain board. I guess that would be like the "playground" here.

Did any of that make sense?

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Is that why the MCD site looks dead? If it's like the playground here, yes, you have to be a member for a certain amount of time (I think 60 days) before it even shows up in the forums list. Something about slowing down the trolls~ Maybe the MCD has a second password or an access setting only given to paid members?
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Is that why the MCD site looks dead? If it's like the playground here, yes, you have to be a member for a certain amount of time (I think 60 days) before it even shows up in the forums list. Something about slowing down the trolls~ Maybe the MCD has a second password or an access setting only given to paid members?
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I really don't know. I had to take an asprin when he finished telling me. LOL
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Oh, since "paid members" aren't able to find out where everyone went, it has to be something else.
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Amyb has a membership at MCD. I know she's busy today with Philip but when she pops in, hopefully she'll have something to add about the site.

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If Heidi met Fawn at some BDSM sites, maybe Heidi and Bonnie hooked up at a beastiality site. I mean, Bonnie is AWFULLY fond of chickens!
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P.S.

If Heidi met Fawn at some BDSM sites, maybe Heidi and Bonnie hooked up at a beastiality site. I mean, Bonnie is AWFULLY fond of chickens!
I just got a *Last Tango In Paris* visual~
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Honey, I'm working silly
If I don't work, I don't get money, if I don't get money... I have to move the family in with yours. I'd move in with MrsMo but she doesn't do dishes.

I asked your question here, and what I got was a bunch of mumbo jumbo. When I made a funny face, he told me that all you have to do is "direct your address to go somewhere else". He said you can keep the address but let only certain people know about "what to ADD on to the address you type in)

He said you could also do it so you have to be a member so long or a certain number of posts before being able to reach that certain board. I guess that would be like the "playground" here.

Did any of that make sense?

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You could also have different categories of members. Admins, for instance, will have access to admin only areas. maybe there are members, then super members.
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Amyb has a membership at MCD. I know she's busy today with Philip but when she pops in, hopefully she'll have something to add about the site.

P.S.

If Heidi met Fawn at some BDSM sites, maybe Heidi and Bonnie hooked up at a beastiality site. I mean, Bonnie is AWFULLY fond of chickens!
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You could also have different categories of members. Admins, for instance, will have access to admin only areas. maybe there are members, then super members.
Yes, he also mentioned the "admins" area. But how would it work for the complete list of members? Sorry, I don't understand what he said when he was trying to answer my question. I won't ask him again since he just shook his head at me and giggled.
I think he needs to be fired tomorrow LOL (Just kidding)
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Yes, he also mentioned the "admins" area. But how would it work for the complete list of members? Sorry, I don't understand what he said when he was trying to answer my question. I won't ask him again since he just shook his head at me and giggled.
I think he needs to be fired tomorrow LOL (Just kidding)
It would just be a member designation. Think of it like security clearance. Some people can see nothing. Some people can see things on a need to know basis only. Some people can see the whole shabang. If you understand databases, then one of the fields in the database might be called "clearance". So, the combination of the user name and the "clearance" determines what they can see and what they can access. We know they do it here with the playground. But here it is set to automatically change based on the join date. Somewhere else maybe a change has to be made manually, on a person by person basis. That way they can hand pick who gets in to a particular area. A forum is really nothing more than a big old database. That info would just be one more field in every record.

We used to have that sort of thing on the old CompuServe forums, too.
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It would just be a member designation. Think of it like security clearance. Some people can see nothing. Some people can see things on a need to know basis only. Some people can see the whole shabang. If you understand databases, then one of the fields in the database might be called "clearance". So, the combination of the user name and the "clearance" determines what they can see and what they can access. We know they do it here with the playground. But here it is set to automatically change based on the join date. Somewhere else maybe a change has to be made manually, on a person by person basis. That way they can hand pick who gets in to a particular area. A forum is really nothing more than a big old database. That info would just be one more field in every record.

We used to have that sort of thing on the old CompuServe forums, too.
That could explain why Amy B can't 'see' anything when she logs in on MCD~ Makes sense ~ don't let a 'trial' member have access to other members~ could be a mole or troll~ maybe she took a lesson from KK
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It would just be a member designation. Think of it like security clearance. Some people can see nothing. Some people can see things on a need to know basis only. Some people can see the whole shabang. If you understand databases, then one of the fields in the database might be called "clearance". So, the combination of the user name and the "clearance" determines what they can see and what they can access. We know they do it here with the playground. But here it is set to automatically change based on the join date. Somewhere else maybe a change has to be made manually, on a person by person basis. That way they can hand pick who gets in to a particular area. A forum is really nothing more than a big old database. That info would just be one more field in every record.

We used to have that sort of thing on the old CompuServe forums, too.

Thank you ! (why couldn't he just say that?)
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and to keep folk who can't see it from even knowing it is there it would have to be different forums like a general met and greet type thing newbies could see and if they get the high sign then they could see some other forums like a diet plan and an FAQ with mods assigned to that area and if they are approved they could access the whole board.
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and to keep folk who can't see it from even knowing it is there it would have to be different forums like a general met and greet type thing newbies could see and if they get the high sign then they could see some other forums like a diet plan and an FAQ with mods assigned to that area and if they are approved they could access the whole board.
thanks, but would this work for someone who has been there for a long time?

I'm trying to figure out how .....
1-they would notify members of the new board
2-and why it wouldn't be posted anywhere for new members. (Just to let them know to keep posting in order to go to the "secret place").


Good Lord, my head hurts. .
Honey, you started this, where are you?

ETA... number 3 a repeat.

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Why would we assume that there are enough members over at the MCD to even need a hidden board? There has been no marketing of this site. Even with the craziness gone from the MCD dot net site, there isn't even a link to MCD dot com. The link from the candle shop is gone too. No affiliate program on the site. Not even a blog that points towards MCD.

How do they sell memberships? On Bonnie's candle route? To Bonnie's insurance customers?

Kimmer had very active viral marketing. Apart from members recruiting friends from other low carb boards, she spammed MySpace, CraigsList, Yahoo answers and sent recruiters to other boards to spread the word. Not to mention all the articles by Wouter and other internet marketeers. Plus affiliates.
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Why would we assume that there are enough members over at the MCD to even need a hidden board? There has been no marketing of this site. Even with the craziness gone from the MCD dot net site, there isn't even a link to MCD dot com. The link from the candle shop is gone too. No affiliate program on the site. Not even a blog that points towards MCD.

How do they sell memberships? On Bonnie's candle route? To Bonnie's insurance customers?

Kimmer had very active viral marketing. Apart from members recruiting friends from other low carb boards, she spammed MySpace, CraigsList, Yahoo answers and sent recruiters to other boards to spread the word. Not to mention all the articles by Wouter and other internet marketeers. Plus affiliates.
That is what I thought too. But from what I understand, there are people in here that have a membership and it was "very active".
Could I have it wrong? Oh my gosh yes! We all know that the stories can get a little mixed up every now and then.
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thanks, but would this work for someone who has been there for a long time?

I'm trying to figure out how .....
1-they would notify members of the new board
2-and why it wouldn't be posted anywhere for new members. (Just to let them know to keep posting in order to go to the "secret place").


Good Lord, my head hurts. .
Honey, you started this, where are you?

ETA... number 3 a repeat.

think of it like a secret society

you don't get in based on number of posts. you get in cause they think you should, so they will be asking you questions, watching your posts, PMing and emailing you off board talking to you about your diet and stuff so nobody on board sees it. then somebody contacts you about joining a different part of the board. I'm sure it would have a fancy name to make you want to be there and one day you stop posting on the board the new folk see and you are off on the real place.
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think of it like a secret society

you don't get in based on number of posts. you get in cause they think you should, so they will be asking you questions, watching your posts, PMing and emailing you off board talking to you about your diet and stuff so nobody on board sees it. then somebody contacts you about joining a different part of the board. I'm sure it would have a fancy name to make you want to be there and one day you stop posting on the board the new folk see and you are off on the real place.
But if there are no posts at all, then how is the new person supposed to interact (and therefore be evaluated)?
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maybe right now there are no new folk OR all new folk are moving to the new place and the distrusted old folk are sitting at the blank site
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