Why the fascination with Kimmer? #14

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

I have repeatedly said, that other people who are not Kimmer do not deserve to be investigated publicly and accused of things publicly without facts to back it up.

Um, excuse me... they told us that same thing way way back in thread number ONE. We were told "not to say things unless we hade "proof/facts". Well how do you think the proof was brought out?

****mumble, grumble****
....Us stupid ducks just want to cause trouble. Kimmer was innocent back in thread number ONE and so is everyone else now.

***Hands on hips, pointing finger at the ducks* ***..
Let the courts take care of it, they would have investigated her on their own , they NEVER needed any of us. The info would have fallen in their laps so stop wasting your time

*Big Fat Yawn*.... have a good night duckies, I'm bored with this.
I will NOT justify my actions to ANYONE. Don't like it? Tough !

(HI Dottie, do I hear your "tapping foot"? Its all HoneyBee's fault. Oops I mean it was Amy, they started this )

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

Um, excuse me... they told us that same thing way way back in thread number ONE. We were told "not to say things unless we hade "proof/facts". Well how do you think the proof was brought out?

****mumble, grumble****
....Us stupid ducks just want to cause trouble. Kimmer was innocent back in thread number ONE and so is everyone else now.

***Hands on hips, pointing finger at the ducks* ***..
Let the courts take care of it, they would have investigated her on their own , they NEVER needed any of us. The info would have fallen in their laps so stop wasting your time

*Big Fat Yawn*.... have a good night duckies, I'm bored with this.
I will NOT justify my actions to ANYONE. Don't like it? Tough !

(HI Dottie, do I hear your "tapping foot"? Its all HoneyBee's fault. Oops I mean it was Amy, they started this )

1.) I am not the "they" who told you anything in thread 1.

And

2.) Just because SOME of your accusations turned out to be true doesn't mean that it's okay to make accusations about any and everybody without proof/facts.

If these last few threads are any indication of went on in the first threads...I imagine there were many many accusations that didn't pan out and lots of innocent people got stomped on.

But that's okay, because you don't have to answer to anyone right?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

What in the world are you talking about?

I simply said that it looks like Heidi lost weight.

I didn't insult anyone for thinking that she might not have.

You said:

You all making an issue of whether she lost weight or not is peripheral...it doesnt matter

And I said it matters to me, and I think it matters to others.
You're very vocal about what you feel is important, what you feel matters, how things should be handled, how others should act, etc. You don't hold yourself to the same standards you hold other posters to,here. I suggest you follow your own advice. Hold yourself to the same standards. That's what in the world I was saying.

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

You said:

And I said it matters to me, and I think it matters to others.
You're very vocal about what you feel is important, what you feel matters, how things should be handled, how others should act, etc. You don't hold yourself to the same standards you hold other posters to,here. I suggest you follow your own advice. Hold yourself to the same standards. That's what in the world I was saying.

That's the problem with taking things out of context Mrs. Menopausal.

My quote is in response to me being accused of trying to 'champion' Heidi because I thought that she lost weight.

And I simply said, that it really doesn't matter if she lost weight or not...it's a peripheral issue.

My point being, why would any of you be offended because someone (me) thinks that Heidi lost weight...when it doesn't really matter if she lost weight now or not?

Because her prior fraud still stands no matter what she does now.

Now don't confuse yourself...that doesn't mean that I care whether you care about her weight loss or lack thereof. That doesn't mean that I want to stop you all from discussing such matters.

It simply means that I think it is foolish to get angry with me for thinking she lost weight...when it really doesn't matter whether she lost weight or not in the big scheme of things.

if you're going to waste your time looking up quotes from me...please at least keep them in context.

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

As for me calling someone a liar...no I did not do that...and I am sure you are aware of that as well.

If Bamagirl wants to deny that she was speaking about me in a post where she had quoted someone who was speaking to me...then she can go ahead and deny that if she wishes...but that would be an obvious lie.

I didn't tell her to lie. If she chooses to lie, that's on her and not on me.

Am I supposed to pretend that she is not attempting to tell an obvious lie?

This is going round and round and round....and it's ridiculous.

If your point is that you all don't group attack people who come in here with opinions you dont like ...and then mock them...and call them trolls, then your point is 100% false...but that is exactly what is done in here repeatedly.

as I stated once before---you do not know what I was referring to---you are making assumptions once again.....

jumping to conclusions....something you accuse the posters to this thread of doing

I stated before---I do NOT appreciate being called a liar---

you are all about facts---how about sticking to them---stop assuming to know what is going on inside my mind

not all topics in a post have to be related.....

[Lilgrnize]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

As for me calling someone a liar...no I did not do that...and I am sure you are aware of that as well.

If Bamagirl wants to deny that she was speaking about me in a post where she had quoted someone who was speaking to me...then she can go ahead and deny that if she wishes...but that would be an obvious lie.

I didn't tell her to lie. If she chooses to lie, that's on her and not on me.

Am I supposed to pretend that she is not attempting to tell an obvious lie?

This is going round and round and round....and it's ridiculous.

Huh??? I didn't call you a liar, but I'm calling you a liar???

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

Mrs. Menopausal, when i first posted in this thread I was extremely polite and friendly and supportive of the "ducks".

Even when I disagreed, I was extremely respectful and nice and mindful of what I said.

In return, I got called names and mocked...as did several other people who posted here.

I'm sorry if my tone isn't quite as nice as it was before but I do not mean to come across as rude.

As for me calling someone a liar...no I did not do that...and I am sure you are aware of that as well.

If Bamagirl wants to deny that she was speaking about me in a post where she had quoted someone who was speaking to me...then she can go ahead and deny that if she wishes...but that would be an obvious lie.

I didn't tell her to lie. If she chooses to lie, that's on her and not on me.

Am I supposed to pretend that she is not attempting to tell an obvious lie?

This is going round and round and round....and it's ridiculous.

If your point is that you all don't group attack people who come in here with opinions you dont like ...and then mock them...and call them trolls, then your point is 100% false...but that is exactly what is done in here repeatedly.

Why are you here? Honestly. I'm honestly not being snarky. You're obviously angry. You can't seem to get past being called a troll. You don't agree with what's going on in this thread. You don't seem to enjoy the thread. Your opinion of most who post here is not favorable. I know you're allowed to go where you want to go and all that and I agree that's how it should be for all of us, but why are you here?

And just for *sheets and giggles, when you tell someone they're lying, you're calling them a liar.

li·ar /ˈlaɪər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lahy-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun a person who tells lies.

And you really shouldn't hand slap someone for making assumptions and then make assumptions of your own. It's bad form.

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by Lilgrnize

Huh??? I didn't call you a liar, but I'm calling you a liar???

That's a cute baby.

I am sorry you are confused. I didn't call anyone a liar.

I said "if you want to lie, go ahead"

And it's true...if she wants to deny that she was talking about me in a post where she quotes someone speaking to me ...repeating a sentiment that she herself said DIRECTLY TO ME a page earlier...well then..that would be a lie.

If she wants to lie, I can't stop her.

Though I suspect you weren't really confused and didn't really want a reply right?

This is one of those "we'll wear you down by sheer volume of silly replies" posts right?

[**Lola**]

as I stated once before---you do not know what I was referring to---you are making assumptions once again.....

Okay let's all pretend to be idiots then.

Gee bamagirl, who were you referring to in a your post quoting a post directed to me?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Excuse me, but didn't you just hand slap someone for assuming you implied something but here you are, assuming Honey implied something? Funny how that seems to keep happening.

Originally Posted by **Lola**

LOL...you are too much.

The feeling is mutual.

bolding mine:

Honeybee et al's tactic was to imply that I had some ulterior motive for posting my opinion.

At the risk of being "too much," once again ... ummm... wasn't I pointing out that you were accusing someone of implying something after hand slapping someone for accusing you of implying something and you answered why that was okay with an answer accusing an implication again?
Am I having a menopausal moment and not getting this or is it really how it appears to be?

[**Lola**]

At the risk of being "too much," once again ... ummm...

I hate to tell you this...but you crossed the "too much" threshold once again.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

Now don't confuse yourself

Oh, I'll try real hard not to. Thanks.

[Sweeteater]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

snipped...

when you tell someone they're lying, you're calling them a liar.

ITA

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

I hate to tell you this...but you crossed the "too much" threshold once again.

Well then, scootch over on that bench and make room for me.

[Mayberryfan]

*YAWN*

Moving on.......ignoring trolls........getting on with it......

Lola -

Whatev........

[**Lola**]

Moving on.......ignoring trolls........getting on with it......

careful mayberry...you're proving my point...once again. <sigh>

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

I hate to tell you this...but you crossed the "too much" threshold once again.

I just wanted to add that you may think I crossed the "too much" threshold but that doesn't mean that what I had to say wasn't right.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

That's right you are almost there. But when you can get the factual part down too maybe I will let you have the crown!

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

1.) I am not the "they" who told you anything in thread 1........ > I never said that you were ONE of them.

And

2.) Just because SOME of your accusations turned out to be true doesn't mean that it's okay to make accusations about any and everybody without proof/facts. How do you get facts without digging? Some of the digging turned out to be facts??? Oh yeah that's right, the facts fell in the laps of the authorities. These blogs haven't helped, phone calls didn't help, emails didn't help, work in the background didn't help etc.

If these last few threads are any indication of went on in the first threads...I imagine there were many many accusations that didn't pan out and lots of innocent people got stomped on. .... > so you haven't read the all the threads where the info started to come out. *hummmm * maybe you should read them and you wouldn't judge us like you are judging others.

But that's okay, because you don't have to answer to anyone right? yep, you have that correct.

Everyone should be proud of the work that WE have done.

You see, we are NOT TALKERS... we do what we can to make something RIGHT.
I am very proud to call the ducks "my friends". We don't just talk the talk, we all walk the walk.

Have a good night everyone.

[**Lola**]

Look ducks, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

I just simply want to say...stop calling people trolls and other names. It isn't nice and it isn't necessary.

If you don't like what someone has to say, why don't you just ignore them..without insulting them and ANNOUNCING that you are ignoring them?

I am sure you won't listen to anything I have to say, because as someone posted earlier you don't answer to anyone.

Okay...just some friendly suggestions.

Peace out

[LINC]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

1.) I am not the "they" who told you anything in thread 1.

And

2.) Just because SOME of your accusations turned out to be true doesn't mean that it's okay to make accusations about any and everybody without proof/facts.

If these last few threads are any indication of went on in the first threads...I imagine there were many many accusations that didn't pan out and lots of innocent people got stomped on.

But that's okay, because you don't have to answer to anyone right?

Lola, I am one of the "they's" who was shocked at the amount of private information and accusations posted back in thread one, and I said so at the time. I was also around when the 3 musketeers were here and was considered one myself by some. I know what you're saying when you say innocent people can get stomped on. That's when I would usually pop my head in here, and it had nothing to do with diverting attention. It had everything to do with trying to make sure that innocent people didn't get stomped on. Maybe it was the Magic Chicken lady. Or whatever her name was from Kimkins who apologized for her rant. Are they innocent? I don't know. Maybe I was wrong to say anything at the time. Or maybe not. I've seen names brought up here that I knew for a fact weren't involved, and I was pretty vocal about it too. As soon as the ladies here realized that those people weren't involved in Kimkins or her scam they backed off. They even apologized.

The thing is, if you look at the last couple threads, you'll see that there aren't many public accusations anymore. Or any "outings." If you're talking about MM, that person was a troll and was in here stirring up crap, plain and simple. If you didn't see the posts, you couldn't know how crazy they were.

It always concerns me when I see people's addresses and information about their families posted on this public BB. Sure the information is out there, but when someone puts it all in a neat little package for all to see, it kind of freaks me out. Especially if we don't know if that person really deserves to be "investigated." And I don't like to see people falsely accused either. So I think I get what you're saying. I've never made it a secret that I disagree with some of what went on here, but I just don't see that type of thing happening anymore. The focus here now is mostly stopping Heidi from continuing to infect the internet, and I wholeheartedly support that. If I didn't agree with anything that was going on, I'd say so. I've never been shy about it in the past.

For the record, I think Heidi probably lost a little bit of weight too, but not nearly as much as she has claimed. I really wish John could get a weigh-in to be part of her deposition.

Lou

[**Lola**]

Originally Posted by LINC

Lola, I am one of the "they's" who was shocked at the amount of private information and accusations posted back in thread one, and I said so at the time. I was also around when the 3 musketeers were here and was considered one myself by some. I know what you're saying when you say innocent people can get stomped on. That's when I would usually pop my head in here, and it had nothing to do with diverting attention. It had everything to do with trying to make sure that innocent people didn't get stomped on. Maybe it was the Magic Chicken lady. Or whatever her name was from Kimkins who apologized for her rant. Are they innocent? I don't know. Maybe I was wrong to say anything at the time. Or maybe not. I've seen names brought up here that I knew for a fact weren't involved, and I was pretty vocal about it too. As soon as the ladies here realized that those people weren't involved in Kimkins or her scam they backed off. They even apologized.

The thing is, if you look at the last couple threads, you'll see that there aren't many public accusations anymore. Or any "outings." If you're talking about MM, that person was a troll and was in here stirring up crap, plain and simple. If you didn't see the posts, you couldn't know how crazy they were.

It always concerns me when I see people's addresses and information about their families posted on this public BB. Sure the information is out there, but when someone puts it all in a neat little package for all to see, it kind of freaks me out. Especially if we don't know if that person really deserves to be "investigated." And I don't like to see people falsely accused either. So I think I get what you're saying. I've never made it a secret that I disagree with some of what went on here, but I just don't see that type of thing happening anymore. The focus here now is mostly stopping Heidi from continuing to infect the internet, and I wholeheartedly support that. If I didn't agree with anything that was going on, I'd say so. I've never been shy about it in the past.

For the record, I think Heidi probably lost a little bit of weight too, but not nearly as much as she has claimed. I really wish John could get a weigh-in to be part of her deposition.

Lou

thanks for your post...I was wrong for jumping to conclusions about this MM person and the troll comment.

I hadn't been reading the last thread or so...I just remembered last time I was here things weren't so nice and I remember being called a troll and posted out of that emotion.

That wasn't fair since I didn't know who they were talking about. And I apologize for that.