Why the fascination with Kimmer? #14 - Page 28

LoraJR72 · 02-18-2008, 12:48 PM

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BamaGal · 02-18-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

Bamagal...we both know what you were talking about considering you were replying to a post directed to me. You can lie about it if you wish.

you are making assumptions once again

you have no idea what I was speaking of and I do not appreciate you calling me a liar...

you are not me---you do not know what is going on in my head---

just because a comment is in the same post as one about you does not mean it is related---that is called jumping to conclusions

BamaGal · 02-18-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

And that pretty much sums up my problem with this thread...the little problem with sticking to the FACTS.

yet it is fine when you don't.....

Mayberryfan · 02-18-2008, 12:57 PM

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Great post. Except one little FACT.I didn't say I felt sorry for heidi. I said I think she may have lost some weight.And that pretty much sums up my problem with this thread...the little problem with sticking to the FACTS.

I didn't say you felt sorry for Heidi. I said if you feel sorry for her, then I'm sorry for you. There's your fact right there!

You have strongly implied that: 1. we are too hard on Kimmer and therefore 2. you have sympathy for her.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But, since that's the way you obviously feel, why bother coming here? Seriously. Why? Do you REALLY expect to change what we do or impede us in any way? Sister, it AIN'T gonna work!

If you have something useful to add, by all mean, stay and play. If not, save yourself the headache. Whatever you say will just roll like water off a duck's back!

Pun intended.

MomToEli · 02-18-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LINC

That seems to be the style these days with sweaters. Haven't you noticed? I see it all the time, and it drives me nuts. The sleeves go way past the wrist and only the fingertips peek out. I ordered a sweater from Victoria's Secret recently. It looked like it had been designed for an orangutan.

Lou

Oh, I am so way outta touch, girl ...

**Lola** · 02-18-2008, 12:59 PM

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You have strongly implied that: 1. we are too hard on Kimmer and therefore 2. you have sympathy for her.

Nope I never implied any such thing.

I have repeatedly said, that other people who are not Kimmer do not deserve to be investigated publicly and accused of things publicly without facts to back it up.

I have repeatedly said that it makes no sense to attack each other as some of you have done in the last couple of threads.

I never said, be nicer to Kimmer. And I never implied any such thing.

HoneyBee2 · 02-18-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

Honeybee,

I wouldn't have commented on the term "troll" if it wasn't a name that I have been called by several of you and have seen you all call just about ANYONE who doesn't agree with you.

Anyway, please forgive me and get back to your work. I try not to spend too much time in this thread because it makes my head spin.

I said show me where I have called you or ANYONE a troll....not repeat it.
Post reference, quote? For someone who states the thread doesn't stick to the facts, you don't use.

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

as for working with a trainer....you have got to be kidding ....the closest Heidi comes to exercise is

"pulling" the wool over everyone's eyes
"lifting" pics and content from other websites
"tossing" back cap'n morgan
"dodging" the creditors
"running" from the law
"shaking" off the sugar sprinkles

**Lola** · 02-18-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I said show me where I have called you or ANYONE a troll....not repeat it.
Post reference, quote?

Show me where I said you (specifically) called me a troll.

I wouldn't be surprised if you had done such a thing. A page or 2 ago, you implied that I was working for or with Heidi Diaz.

But I have never said you honeybee specifically said this or that. I remember very little from you specifically other than you posted some really, really bizarre rant about lowcarbmargi filled with paranoid accusations and lots of copy/pasting and screenshots. That made me shake my head in disbelief.

But that's about all I know of you specifically.

Look honeybee...let's drop this now. I was speaking of several regular members repeatedly caling me and other people trolls and other names.

Do I know who specifically said it? No.

Do I care to waste my time looking it up? No.

But it doesnt change the fact that the approach by many on this thread to insult and dismiss posters who have differing opinions exists.

MomToEli · 02-18-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LINC

Heidi's gone from the front page now.

Lou

At least she found someone to take her place that newbies might aspire to look like. I haven't been able to figure that one out all along.

**Lola** · 02-18-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MJR

Lola,
I'm not sure that EVERYONE who comes here with a different point of view is labeled a "troll" - only those that seem to have an underlying reason to cause distractions and who like to sling insults.
Lots of people pop their heads in here with questions and comments - and I'd say most are treated with respect and dignity. It's only those that want to tell us that our mission is ridiculous, unwarranted, waste of time, "mob mentality" etc... that gets everyone worked up.

So, if I've been rude, dissmisive or childish to you- then please accept my apology!

Thanks for the response MJR. I agree with you. In the beginning (when I first got here in November after the m&J show) it seemed that most people here were very nice and tolerant.

And then things took a nasty turn a few threads ago. And I have seen some things I didnt like very much at all.

MomToEli · 02-18-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I agree Lauren that MM came in aggressively and that is why we all ask why? The odd grammar and the use of many details of this saga seemed a bit much.
I took it more as a way to garnish attention to the words that were posted later. Like, "Hey, look at me! Are you looking? Ok, I am leaving." I thought it was done in hopes that we would read the future blog.

Now, I am still struggling and undecided about the motives behind the blog.
-Was it all a diversion? Which leads us to a diversion from what? MCD, Bonnie? The court findings tomorrow.....

-Was it done truly to pass information for the case?

-Could it have been an attempt by Heidi's son's to help more get more information or to see what information "our side had"?

This is where I am not in total agreement with writing it off as meaningless. The action had reasoning behind it, but the question to me is what is the reasoning.

I'm right there with you, HoneyBee. I don't get it. Just because I don't get it doesn't mean it isn't there. Or is it? Which way did it go?

Ok, sorry ... I'm still sick and I couldn't help myself. I feel like I'm in a time warp here ...

Oh, and

Lola! Nice ta see ya again.

Ok, back to bed for me ... where are those kleenex?

Katinsac · 02-18-2008, 01:22 PM

Mom...sorry your not feeling well today. get better soon

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Lola- I am going to say this and you can take it for whatever it is worth. You certainly show a healthy amount of optimism to take Heidi Diaz at face value, such as now, believing the photo and words of a person who has been shown to be a con, a manipulator and a liar. But then seem to show none of that same mind set when it comes to believing in statements made by people here.

You have already stated you don't know what "troll" the person was speaking of and yet you go on to use the terms rude, childish and dismissive, that implies that those using the word are just that- childish and dismissive.

At the very least I would think the benefit of the doubt you seem to show Ms. Diaz would be shown to others, if that was your outlook on life. But to me you are coming off as just someone wanting to champion Heidi and I have to ask you why?

ITA!

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by v0xhumana

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Please be on the lookout for the latest troll-by. We've spotted the guilty party, and were able to take a snapshot. I hereby present to you...

5 O'CLOCK CAP'N!

LOL!

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

I don't post here often because of posts like the one I quoted above.

It's either engage in the groupthink 100% or be accused of being a troll or someone with sinsiter motives.

Yeah okay. Carry on.

How does what you quoted have to do with group thinking? It refers to what was being discussed when Marina showed up. How does that tie into what you're saying?

MomToEli · 02-18-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

Mom...sorry your not feeling well today. get better soon

Kat! And thanks. My kiddo got really sick, gave it to me, and of course got much better so now he is running around wanting me to play card games and fix him something to eat and watch Cars for the 1,000th time. Isn't that just like a kid? Days like this make me wonder why we didn't send him to public school.

Nah. Just kidding!

Anyway, thanks for thinkin' of me

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

Seriously, if you don't like what I have to say...that's fine. But at least actually read what I wrote before you attempt to tell me off.

Thanks

I suggest you do the same. For some reason you seem to be blind to your own choice of words and perceived tone as you go about happily hand slapping those you deem worthy of admonishment.

I have seen many a person come here, question, state beliefs, disagree ... a conversation has followed. Perhaps the problems you are experiencing aren't completely the fault of others.

HoneyBee2 · 02-18-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

Show me where I said you (specifically) called me a troll.

Oh, you didn't say I called YOU a troll, but I said SHOW me where I have called you OR ANYONE a troll, which is what your post claimed. (see quoted post below)
I can play those word games too!

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

Honeybee,
I wouldn't have commented on the term "troll" if it wasn't a name that I have been called by several of you and have seen you all call just about ANYONE who doesn't agree with you.

The FACT is I have not called anyone a troll in all my postings to my recollection.
Are we clear?

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

I wouldn't be surprised if you had done such a thing.

Nope, I didn't and you can always page back and not resort to using circular debate tactics, but FACTS.

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

A page or 2 ago, you implied that I was working for or with Heidi Diaz.

Never did....Again the FACTS are missing-
My comment stated "someone wanting to champion Heid"
You must be unclear on the definition of the term Champion. It is not used to imply one who is employed by a person, nor is that the definition. The definition- An ardent defender or supporter of a cause or another person.
In other words I was saying, you were coming off as someone wanting to Support Heidi.
Maybe it was your misunderstanding of the term led you to misinterpret my meaning.

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

But I have never said you honeybee specifically said this or that. I remember very little from you specifically other than you posted some really, really bizarre rant about lowcarbmargi filled with paranoid accusations and lots of copy/pasting and screenshots. That made me shake my head in disbelief.

Oh, I had forgotten about that, because you haven't mentioned it for at least 5 or 6 posts. But I have my crown to remind myself now. Yes, I do use c/p and screenshots- being the paranoid, FACTUAL drama queen that I am.
But we can drop it...

mrsmenopausal · 02-18-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by **Lola**

But I will post here whenever I feel like it because I will not be bullied into silence because a few of you do not like what I have to say.

I think that's how it should be. Now, I suggest you extend this same right to those you're complaining about.

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You all making an issue of whether she lost weight or not is peripheral...it doesnt matter.

It matters to me. I think it matters to others here, too. So I suggest you follow your own advise and allow others the rights you've proclaimed for yourself and let them decide what they think is important to them as you have for yourself.

Goose, gander.

**Lola** · 02-18-2008, 01:54 PM

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being the paranoid, FACTUAL drama queen that I am.

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

**Lola** · 02-18-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I think that's how it should be. Now, I suggest you extend this same right to those you're complaining about.

It matters to me. I think it matters to others here, too. So I suggest you follow your own advise and allow others the rights you've proclaimed for yourself and let them decide what they think is important to them as you have for yourself.

Goose, gander.

What in the world are you talking about?

I simply said that it looks like Heidi lost weight.

I didn't insult anyone for thinking that she might not have.

OhYeahBabe · 02-18-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

as for working with a trainer....you have got to be kidding ....the closest Heidi comes to exercise is

"pulling" the wool over everyone's eyes
"lifting" pics and content from other websites
"tossing" back cap'n morgan
"dodging" the creditors
"running" from the law
"shaking" off the sugar sprinkles

LOL, Bama!

She stays flexible b
"reaching" for conclusions
"stretching" the truth

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