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Old 02-17-2008, 04:09 PM   #691
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You are right, Nady..

Here is what the court stuff lists for 2/19:

HEARING RE: MOTION TO/FOR SET ASIDE RIGHT TO ATTACH ORDER QUASH WRIT OF ATTACHMENT, & RELEASE ATTACHED PROPE BY HEIDI DIAZ, KIMKINS - Minutes
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HB---I felt this person was referring to Bertrand----as in Cottle---Heidi's attorney
Duh, I thought it was in reference to the sequence of numbers that they were posting about when they mentioned the name. I don't watch LOST, but while researching number sequencing it came up, and there was a character Bertrand. But it is very possible that I was too deep in the forest to see the trees. LOL
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Maybe they were killing two birds with one stone- Cottle and the use of numbers on the show LOST.
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HB---I felt this person was referring to Bertrand----as in Cottle---Heidi's attorney

Tuesday is a big day---I'm looking to see some drive by trollings coming along or a cap'n morgan rampage....
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Yup--they present their case to have Heidi's assets thawed out---with the sealed records being filed---I don't see that happening---I feel even more of her assets are gonna get attached as a result...but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part..but one can always hope...


HB---you have me lost on the LOST references....I haven't a clue to what you are talking about---I know the number sequences you are speaking of....were they related to this show somehow---I don't watch it either.....

I got a kick out of all the songs being used---some of those lyrics were very telling--songs are just poems---they tell a story and can be interpreted many ways....

Cat's in the Cradle---it was posted twice....no other song was.....hmmmm

this is part of the lyrics of that song that stood out to me...

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
Yeah, my boy was just like me


did anyone else check out the lyrics for the songs posted??
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Yup--they present their case to have Heidi's assets thawed out---with the sealed records being filed---I don't see that happening---I feel even more of her assets are gonna get attached as a result...but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part..but one can always hope...


HB---you have me lost on the LOST references....I haven't a clue to what you are talking about---I know the number sequences you are speaking of....were they related to this show somehow---I don't watch it either.....

I got a kick out of all the songs being used---some of those lyrics were very telling--songs are just poems---they tell a story and can be interpreted many ways....

Cat's in the Cradle---it was posted twice....no other song was.....hmmmm

this is part of the lyrics of that song that stood out to me...

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
Yeah, my boy was just like me


did anyone else check out the lyrics for the songs posted??
"Planes to catch and bills to pay"
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OMG!

I'm sure you all get posts like this all the time, but:

I've been away from LCing and forums for about 5-6 months. When I left, things were beginning to heat up, but none of the admins had quit, none of the pics had been leaked, etc. etc.

Now, I've been reading during almost all my spare time for the past few days, and I'm only up to September 19th (about page 70 in the Part 2 thread), and it's absolutely riveting. I feel like I know a lot of you already. Thing is, I can't bear to skip ahead and find out what's happened since then, it's just too fascinating to watch events unfolding as they occurred. Still, I registered just so I could drop in and say 'hi' to the present. I have so many comments I want to make, but I know they're probably no longer relevant. One big thing that started occurring to me *way* early in the original thread was that a lot of what I was reading about Kimmer/Heidi reminded me very much of some of the sociopaths profiled by crime writer Ann Rule (especially Pat Taylor/Allanson). So far (as of 9/19) nothing has happened to do anything but reinforce that feeling...I'm just waiting for the insurance scams and the (god forbid) bodies to start turning up.

Anyway--back to the past for me. I'll catch up here as soon as I can, but it may be a while.

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Yup--they present their case to have Heidi's assets thawed out---with the sealed records being filed---I don't see that happening---I feel even more of her assets are gonna get attached as a result...but that is probably just wishful thinking on my part..but one can always hope...


HB---you have me lost on the LOST references....I haven't a clue to what you are talking about---I know the number sequences you are speaking of....were they related to this show somehow---I don't watch it either.....

I got a kick out of all the songs being used---some of those lyrics were very telling--songs are just poems---they tell a story and can be interpreted many ways....

Cat's in the Cradle---it was posted twice....no other song was.....hmmmm

this is part of the lyrics of that song that stood out to me...

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
Yeah, my boy was just like me

did anyone else check out the lyrics for the songs posted??
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I have a word doc with all the lyrics and my thoughts on them. But, couldn't put 2+2 together to make a coherent post. Par for the course on this one, I'm afraid. But, I agree - several phrases really stood out.
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I just feel like if this person truly wanted to pass on critical info---it would have been extremely simple without all the drama. John is very reachable.

The biggest thing really going on right now is the lawsuit. Heidi's trying like mad to get her funds unfrozen. She also did not want all that financial info entered into the record. Her lawyer has been trying to throw up road blocks at every turn. Also more and more negative info is getting out on the net about the site---thus fewer people are signing up right now.
Go check out Elle's blog. There are at least 2, maybe 3 or more "Anonymouses" duking it out, and one of them sounds like our is-it-or-isn't-it troll, MM. But s/he/it does say that truth has lies for a bodyguard. No way. Truth might need shielding, but it doesn't require lies to protect itself. Contaminated truth becomes fiction, and fiction doesn't do the ducks' cause any favors.
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OMG!

I'm sure you all get posts like this all the time, but:

I've been away from LCing and forums for about 5-6 months. When I left, things were beginning to heat up, but none of the admins had quit, none of the pics had been leaked, etc. etc.

Now, I've been reading during almost all my spare time for the past few days, and I'm only up to September 19th (about page 70 in the Part 2 thread), and it's absolutely riveting. I feel like I know a lot of you already. Thing is, I can't bear to skip ahead and find out what's happened since then, it's just too fascinating to watch events unfolding as they occurred. Still, I registered just so I could drop in and say 'hi' to the present. I have so many comments I want to make, but I know they're probably no longer relevant. One big thing that started occurring to me *way* early in the original thread was that a lot of what I was reading about Kimmer/Heidi reminded me very much of some of the sociopaths profiled by crime writer Ann Rule (especially Pat Taylor/Allanson). So far (as of 9/19) nothing has happened to do anything but reinforce that feeling...I'm just waiting for the insurance scams and the (god forbid) bodies to start turning up.

Anyway--back to the past for me. I'll catch up here as soon as I can, but it may be a while.
Yes, it's good reading, isn't it? Many have forgone meals, showers, work, etc. to catch up.
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Go check out Elle's blog. There are at least 2, maybe 3 or more "Anonymouses" duking it out, and one of them sounds like our is-it-or-isn't-it troll, MM. But s/he/it does say that truth has lies for a bodyguard. No way. Truth might need shielding, but it doesn't require lies to protect itself. Contaminated truth becomes fiction, and fiction doesn't do the ducks' cause any favors.
I don't understand why there is such a big deal being made over someone who came here, made veiled references to "knowing something", cast insults our direction, wrote a blog that really said nothing, and faded away never to be heard from again. What am I missing?
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I don't know for sure, because I can't begin to say I know what is valuable and what is not.
But since we don't know then what is the big deal in the discussion?
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I don't know for sure, because I can't begin to say I know what is valuable and what is not.
But since we don't know then what is the big deal in the discussion?
I didn't mean we are making a big deal of it here. We pretty much brushed it off as a drive-by trolling. But the bloggers seem to think there's something to this story.
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Go check out Elle's blog. There are at least 2, maybe 3 or more "Anonymouses" duking it out, and one of them sounds like our is-it-or-isn't-it troll, MM. But s/he/it does say that truth has lies for a bodyguard. No way. Truth might need shielding, but it doesn't require lies to protect itself. Contaminated truth becomes fiction, and fiction doesn't do the ducks' cause any favors.
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I have a word doc with all the lyrics and my thoughts on them. But, couldn't put 2+2 together to make a coherent post. Par for the course on this one, I'm afraid. But, I agree - several phrases really stood out.

I've got them all saved to----I'll spend a little time on them--then move on and something will click and I'll go back...

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Anyway--back to the past for me. I'll catch up here as soon as I can, but it may be a while.
I came in this way back in #3 or #4---I read for a solid week to catch up----

so I guess we'll see you back say in April or so
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which one is Elle's blog?
Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles . Sorry, don't know how to link to it.

And then there's Prudentia, the blogger who rapped our knuckles, having the most intriguing one-sided conversation which lends hope that maybe MM has reappeared with worthwhile information to be relayed to John. If so, then she can expect my apologies down the line when her part in the drama becomes known.

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I don't understand why there is such a big deal being made over someone who came here, made veiled references to "knowing something", cast insults our direction, wrote a blog that really said nothing, and faded away never to be heard from again. What am I missing?
Any troll has an agenda to promote, or else they wouldn't be trolling, they'd just wander off an not bother with it to begin with.

The question is what was the agenda this time?

Distraction from a possible MCD/Bonnie/Kimkins connection when we discovered that Bonnie used to live near Kimmer?

The "Judas among us" - that could be taken so many different ways. Could be someone who has betrayed Heidi, or someone who is a traitor to the Ducks. Not that being a traitor to the ducks would make any difference at all in the ongoing lawsuit, because the Ducks aren't the ones putting together the case, John's doing that.

And although it doesn't really matter, we can't help but wonder who was playing the troll this time? Kimmer? One of her followers? Bonnie? Or maybe even one of Bonnie's followers?

The name she chose to use, song lyrics, number sequences - they're all clues of some kind. Our latest troll seems to like to play games, although it's possible that every bit of it was just random things that came to mind as s/he was leading us on a merry chase, and they have no meaning at all. I go with the idea that every word, number, song title and name was carefully chosen though.
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I didn't mean we are making a big deal of it here. We pretty much brushed it off as a drive-by trolling. But the bloggers seem to think there's something to this story.
Oh, I haven't noticed how any bloggers are treating the posts etc. I have only been to Prudentia's blog just recently, because I got a pm to check out what was going on.

I haven't read the others yet because I was reviewing Martina's posts and the MM bar & grill blog. I wanted to get an interpertation of my own first, before reading if others had posted anything.

They may find it interesting or a challenge? I know that I can see it that way on one hand and of course a diversion on the other hand. I really have been back and forth on this subject. So although I haven't been posting here that I felt it could be more, I still haven't written it off as a total diversion. But Heidi is not the only one that causes diversions, so the messages may give an idea who is behind the diversion too.

At least that is where I am coming from in my review of things. Open to it being just about anything.
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Go check out Elle's blog. There are at least 2, maybe 3 or more "Anonymouses" duking it out, and one of them sounds like our is-it-or-isn't-it troll, MM. But s/he/it does say that truth has lies for a bodyguard. No way. Truth might need shielding, but it doesn't require lies to protect itself. Contaminated truth becomes fiction, and fiction doesn't do the ducks' cause any favors.
That's my blog

One of them is definitely MM, specifically the one who left comments 3,5,6,7,8, 10 and 12. MM, according to my site stats, has spent a lot of time on my blog today. I mean, so much that MM may need to buy me dinner. Then again, s/he may be the one clicking all the ads, so I guess that counts!

I thought about deleting the comments, but they're not really saying anything that offensive, and I don't want to get into a game of post-delete. If it does get offensive, I'll just block them.

ETA: I may need to do that anyway. Site stats showed MM was trying to find me through a Yahoo search on "grilled cheese and pickels." WTH?
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