Why the fascination with Kimmer? #14

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by SMP

Friendly doesn't say what isn't meant, hint at what can't be spoken, divert bloodhound ducks from a winning strategy. At the most positive spin, it was neutral posting. At the worst, it was a troll sighting. Please note that no one shot her down in flames, but spoke of ignoring her. That was caution, pure and simple. The ball is in Martina's court if she wishes to play with the ducks.

This assumes she still has access. I am of the belief that it was a troll.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

This assumes she still has access. I am of the belief that it was a troll.

I just wish I could have read it all before it got airbrushed away.

When did they start doing that, anyway?

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Here's one I am always tempted to use when we have a drive by troll:

It wasn't me, I SWEAR!!!!!!

Should I change my User name?

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I just wish I could have read it all before it got airbrushed away.

When did they start doing that, anyway?

I can't say exactly when it started, but the trolls are not allowed to come in and make trouble anymore.

ETA: you didn't miss anything. It was the usual " you people are wasting your time, you're obsessed, you should just chill out and let the courts sort it out, you're wasting your lives, blah, blah, blah...................."

Tooter

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by Tooter

It wasn't me, I SWEAR!!!!!!

Should I change my User name?

[Pam in TX]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Pam~

Ooooo. I'm so jealous! Have you gotten a close-up look at Coach Taylor? It should be a sin for one man to be THAT good-looking! But, I'm glad it's not!

V0x ~
Have to admit that I didn't pay much attention to the grammar. I just recently got into this show and LOVE it. I'm REALLY hoping it comes back next season.

Thanks for checking this out!

Back on topic: Kimmer's really the lowest, huh? :P

Signed the petition and forwarded on to some others I know watch it.....

Haven't seen Kyle Chandler (he is so adorable.... loved him in his other shows also) but did see Taylor Kitsch (Tim Riggins) last summer.... He is even cuter in person.....

[Mayberryfan]

Pam~

Seeing Taylor Kitsch in person? SO not fair! And THANK you for sending the petition on. If NBC cancels that show, I'm going to round up a whole new flock of ducks to make them sorry!

Their email, snail mail, you name it will be overwhelmed!

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by TerryC

I'm not buying friendly fire.

Neither am I.

[gibster]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Here's one I am always tempted to use when we have a drive by troll:

He who smelt it, dealt it!

[WildAngel6]

Recommended Reading:**

Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: If it looks like a duck ...

Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: I don't accept your apology, Woman's World Magazine

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Back Across The Line: Big Fat Lies---Gary Taubes




**For those who aren't otherwise occupied by watching the Daytona 500.


Ok, I admit it... I'm a redneck woman!

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Recommended Reading:
**For those who aren't otherwise occupied by watching the Daytona 500.


daytona what????

Ok, I admit it... I'm a redneck woman!

hello.....redneck....you don't live in the south...


oooooh.......southern CA of course...

I'm redneck woman
And I ain't no high class broad
I'm just a product of my raisin'
And I say "hey y'all" and "Yee Haw"
And I keep my Christmas lights on, on my front porch all year long
And I know all the words to every Ol' Bocephus song
So here's to all my sisters out there keeping it country
Let me get a big "**** Yeah" from the redneck girls like me

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Recommended Reading:**
**For those who aren't otherwise occupied by watching the Daytona 500.


Ok, I admit it... I'm a redneck woman!

You mean it really goes 500 laps? I never make it past lap 300 or so....
Just kidding those were my partying days BK (before kids).
Although, my husband is only a transplant to the south he loves to watch the Nascar races. Well, I think it is the hot wings and wrecks that he enjoys, but Hey! a husband could have worse vices, so I let the man watch whatever he wants.

Bama- That's right! I was country before country was cool too!

[HoneyBee2]

I have been letting Martina's comments here and her blog marinate over the last few days. My opinion usually come from prior observations or patterns noted in the past. I love to find patterns in things and that includes behavior. Do they have a profession that could incorporate this interest or at least some therapy I could seek?. LOL

Since it was quiet I thought it would be a good time to discuss the -friendly fire- idea or other's take on things. It seems that through discussion here we have often stumbled on so many things and I don't want to lose brainstorming here as a resource.

Maybe I am the only one that feels that way and if that is the case no biggie because I discuss things anyway. But I did want to get feedback from y'all.

ETA- Do most view the posts and subsequent blog as only a diversion?
If so why a diversion now? Not much going on in the thread, so what was the purpose? Barbara B's post about Bonnie in California?
If not a diversion then what? Just a bored troll- who seemed to know a lot about the happenings with the kimkins saga? A set-up of sorts? Was there truth in the message?

[Magicsmom]

I've noticed a thing about the trollings too, a pattern, if you will. They all sing the same old song, telling us that we should be satisfied this is in the courts now, we should go back to our lives and give it up, that there is nothing more to discover (we've been hearing that one since thread four or so), that we need to get off the computer, go outside, and enjoy life.......... you know exactly what I am talking about. And no matter how we explain why we don't want to let this go, they repeat themselves as if we had never answered. Martina was no different, but she threw in the cryptic "I know something you don't know" type of comments. *yawn*

[Mayberryfan]

HoneyB

FWIW - I think Martina was an attempt at diversion, and a rather pitiful attempt. Basically your average hit and run troll. It may've been a Magic Chicken sympathizer. It may've been a Kimmer sympathizer.

IMHO this was someone who tried to be a rabble rouser and couldn't get us to fight amongst ourselves. No need for anyone to apologize to Martina. Whoever it was came in here with an agenda, only abandon it at lightning speed.

Oh, and the name? Martin is Catherine's husband, right? There's where "Martina" came from.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I have been letting Martina's comments here and her blog marinate over the last few days. My opinion usually come from prior observations or patterns noted in the past. I love to find patterns in things and that includes behavior. Do they have a profession that could incorporate this interest or at least some therapy I could seek?. LOL

Since it was quiet I thought it would be a good time to discuss the -friendly fire- idea or other's take on things. It seems that through discussion here we have often stumbled on so many things and I don't want to lose brainstorming here as a resource.

Maybe I am the only one that feels that way and if that is the case no biggie because I discuss things anyway. But I did want to get feedback from y'all.

ETA- Do most view the posts and subsequent blog as only a diversion?
If so why a diversion now? Not much going on in the thread, so what was the purpose? Barbara B's post about Bonnie in California?
If not a diversion then what? Just a bored troll- who seemed to know a lot about the happenings with the kimkins saga? A set-up of sorts? Was there truth in the message?

I always check in several times a day, so I braced myself when Barbara B posted. I held on for the ride. I was expecting it.

[rebel]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

HoneyB

FWIW - I think Martina was an attempt at diversion, and a rather pitiful attempt. Basically your average hit and run troll. It may've been a Magic Chicken sympathizer. It may've been a Kimmer sympathizer.

IMHO this was someone who tried to be a rabble rouser and couldn't get us to fight amongst ourselves. No need for anyone to apologize to Martina. Whoever it was came in here with an agenda, only abandon it at lightning speed.

Oh, and the name? Martin is Catherine's husband, right? There's where "Martina" came from.

I thought the Martini came from MissMerize's meat and martini diet. Also, the MM reminds me of MissMerize. I thought they were trying to get under her skin because she has probably gotten under theirs.

I know some people say they know who it is and that the person was trying to help and didn't have an agenda. Maybe so, but that blog was like the ravings of a lunatic.

[HoneyBee2]

I have mixed feelings on the posts and blog. I may be giving the poster more credit than they really deserve, when I try to read clues in their words.

Mayberry- I took the Martina as something totally different based on when email addy on the blog profile they put up. The email was MartinaBorman@..
Now Martin Bormann was the right hand man to Hitler and Bormann was even tried at the Nuremberg trials, although he was thought to be dead at the time of trials. Just thought the Hitler reference was too much to ignore and the trial timing too.

At first I took the spelling as just an oversight and maybe it was but then I recalled a section from the book The last Days of Hitler. It spelled it the same as the blogger had in one passage.
It read Po Seldam Martina Borman and it was where they quoted...a Russian. So is this Russian?
I am not sure if it was another little link to the Russian bride thing or if like I said it was me giving more credit than was due.

[HoneyBee2]

Magic I agree we have seen that song and dance before! Like Rebel pointed out the timing did seem to remind me of comments in the past that crop up when we are getting close to things. So I can really see it going both ways.

To look at the diversion aspect of things we can look at the history of the thread.

Remember how there were comments and post where there was talk of jeopardizing the lawsuit. This was right after the posts at Jimmys and some of the posts here at LCF. Then Jeanessa got those emails saying some were going to pull out of the lawsuit.

My point is- since many have been doing things behind the scenes, and reminding people about the lawsuit at our blogs-there has not been any talk of the lawsuit being in jeopardy. One reason could be because the silence does change things. Another reason is because someone would be hard pressed to find fault now, because out in the open discussion is not as frequent. Not as much to pick apart so, then the magicchickendiet dot net comes out and with tongue in cheek, say how the ducks along with the blogs have picked on Bonnie. Same message as before but just a different way of getting it across. Then we have martina's blog saying there is a judas among us.

If anyone is looking at this as a blog being done as a diversion, then maybe looking at who was always discussing the lawsuit being jeopardized or who would comment on how terrible a job the ducks were doing in their fight shortly after those comments were made. This would be a way to make sense of who or why they were doing the blog or the MCD dot net. Since they seem to both have some odd timing.

No, I don't know who it is or can I claim too, other than the obvious first guess that everyone says...Heidi.
However, it would seem to be worth going back over some of the events that occurred around the last time the "lawsuit was put in jeopardy". To me it is the same sort of tactic used many times here and even a tactic Heidi would use it in promoting kimkins.

You know how someone asks "has anyone heard about kimkins" and then a person shows up and says how great it is because, "I have been doing it and lost 20lbs in a month".
This is always a better sell than just posting "hey try kimkins" because it comes off as marketing. This way it is Subtle, yet effective, so the real reason for the person making the comment, asking about Kimkins, appears legit and thus the person responding sounds more believable.

Take that and apply it to the previous scenarios here. Let's say the whole "The lawsuit is in jeopardy" is the cry made right before the other person comes out and says, "See how terrible the ducks are and those who have been making efforts to bring down kimkins." That statement is then giving credibility without real proof. Just like the praise of kimkins above, it seems more believable in that context, so does the disparaging of ducks in this context. The claims sound more plausible.

So my thoughts are why? Why would someone say this if it wasn't true? What is the pay-off? Just like the set-up with kimkins, the pay-off is selling more memberships. So why would anyone cry wolf about the lawsuit?

It may be cynical to think this way, but is the payoff in the whole "lawsuit is in jeopardy cry" a belief that those digging for answers will stop? Or that those commenting on the facts will stop commenting? Not because it hurts the case against Heidi -but the fact that it is helping to make the case against Heidi and that is something Heidi or her supporters don't want?

Of course I realize that at times the statement- that the lawsuit is being jeopardized- could be saying just that. If it comes from Jeanessa or John I take it differently than I would others. But I will still ask why...

Just one take on how it could be a diversion.

[MJR]

Honeybee
I've got another PM for ya. But, your box seems to be full. Let me know when you've got some room for one more.

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

I have been letting Martina's comments here and her blog marinate over the last few days. My opinion usually come from prior observations or patterns noted in the past. I love to find patterns in things and that includes behavior. Do they have a profession that could incorporate this interest or at least some therapy I could seek?. LOL

Since it was quiet I thought it would be a good time to discuss the -friendly fire- idea or other's take on things. It seems that through discussion here we have often stumbled on so many things and I don't want to lose brainstorming here as a resource.

Maybe I am the only one that feels that way and if that is the case no biggie because I discuss things anyway. But I did want to get feedback from y'all.

ETA- Do most view the posts and subsequent blog as only a diversion?
If so why a diversion now? Not much going on in the thread, so what was the purpose? Barbara B's post about Bonnie in California?
If not a diversion then what? Just a bored troll- who seemed to know a lot about the happenings with the kimkins saga? A set-up of sorts? Was there truth in the message?

quite a few actually----profiling comes to mind..

also -ever watch the show NUMB3RS---all that is a series of patterns...

diversion



di·ver·sion
n.1. The act or an instance of diverting or turning aside; deviation.
2. Something that distracts the mind and relaxes or entertains.
3. A maneuver that draws the attention of an opponent away from a planned point of action, especially as part of military strategy.



This latest diversion, who really knows the reasoning behind it. HB as always you make some very valid points.

I just feel like if this person truly wanted to pass on critical info---it would have been extremely simple without all the drama. John is very reachable.

The biggest thing really going on right now is the lawsuit. Heidi's trying like mad to get her funds unfrozen. She also did not want all that financial info entered into the record. Her lawyer has been trying to throw up road blocks at every turn. Also more and more negative info is getting out on the net about the site---thus fewer people are signing up right now.

As for the MCD stuff---who the sam hill knows what all that garbage is about....it's bizarre to say the least.

As for the timing....like rebel pointed out...it's like clock work.

[HoneyBee2]

Bama- I don't watch NUMB3RS, but it sounds like I would love it. I am terrible with watching tv. But thank god for Tivo because I ca