Why the fascination with Kimmer? #13

[Mayberryfan]

Miss ~ congrats on the 5 lbs. That is AWESOME! Good for you.

So, many of us ex-KK's girls, and overweight ladies in general struggle with body image issues and Kimmer only fueled that by projecting her self-hatred on to those of us whom she scammed. But, I saw two things tonight that really made me feel good, and I wanted to share.

First, the new issue of People is out and it's the only issue I buy every year because it focuses on real people who've found a way to lose a bunch of weight. They also did follow-ups on previous featurees. So inspiring. But, that's the nature of REAL success stories. Not a Russian bride anywhere. Not one single one!

Then, quite by accident, I watched "How to Look Good Naked" on Lifetime when I turned over to watch Frasier. It was different than I thought it would be and it reminded me how many people fight weight and body image issues.

The only problem I had was their misspelling of naked. Dangit, I'm from the South and (Bamagal, back me up here) isn't the correct spelling NEKKID?

[JoSkids]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Aww, that's so cute.
(Just as a head's up for you.lol) You're in for it when she finds out where babies come from. I had told my daughter all of it except how the sperm gets delivered to the egg (all in good time and all that. lol). A friend of hers filled her in at a slumber party and she came to me fully expecting me to tell her that her friend had lied to her. She wasn't thrilled to find out she hadn't. That was a couple of years ago and she's *still swearing she's not getting married and doing *THAT, ever!

Yup, that is "so wrong" in my dd's book - she's now 12.

[JoSkids]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Ok, back home again, listening to the rain pitter patter on the roof and trying to catch up here...

Looks like our bloggers have been busy again...

I must disagree…. Kimkins Scam

Kimorexia: You Get What You Pay For. Or Do You?

Medusa: GOTTA SERVE SOMEBODY...

Pitter patter on your roof?! You still have a roof?! Where in CA are you - we had the wind storm from heck last night. We actually do still have our roof, but missing a fence...

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by JoSkids

Yup, that is "so wrong" in my dd's book - she's now 12.

LOL
Girls are so different than boys. When I told my boys they didn't get all disgusted and voice any objections. They got embarrassed, really really quiet, and that deer in the headlights look (for days!).

[Barbara B]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

I think Jimmy was being used. Someone 'famous' on swwnbn's website. SEE she is credible.
NOT!

One thing I want to point out. It was not TT who used the word "accusations" in responding to Jimmy. It was Heather aka campfiregirl (Brian's wife):

Jeannie,
Thank you for responding to the preposterous accusations.
To everyone else,
Now that Jeannie has responded to this annoying post from another site, can we all just put it behind us and concentrate on what this website is actually for -- Supporting each other on our weight loss journey?
I would like to move forward and be here to cheer each and every one of you on as you work on your weight loss programs, whatever they may be.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by tiggerr

I think Jimmy was being used. Someone 'famous' on swwnbn's website. SEE she is credible.
NOT!

holy crap I didn't think of that! Good thinking!

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

Carolyn, I gotta agree. It does sound like that may be the motive behind Hidey's words.

But nobody, I mean NOBODY! is stupid enough to believe Tippy had that much responsibility for Kimkins.com. Hidey can try all she wants to spread the blame around, but it ain't gonna fly. The vultures are staring square at Hidey K Diaz!

She can try throwing anyone she wants under the bus. But the bottom line is that woman is in some very deep doo-doo...and she has only herself to blame.

For some reason, the spelling of her name and the mention of poo reminded me of that south park character... Mr Hanky the Christmas poo.... "Hidey Ho!"

Yes, I'm sick and twisted. I'm sorry. I only wish I could have used my deviant thoughts to make a funny joke that was apropose around Christmas...

[gibster]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

So, am I understanding the TT/Jimmy controversy correct? The problem is that Jimmy posted that 800 cal stuff and people over at the Camp was saying he was making accusations AGAINST the Camp's diet plans so he decided to leave?

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

no he posted Kimmer commnet from diets in review calling TT her right hand and ask TT about it on the board.

the camp has no diet plan it is like LCFs any plan you want to do you can

The camp counselors were upset with JM because he asked about the diets-in-review on the camp threads instead of PMing TT. But the funny thing is, JM had started a discussion about the importance of fats in the diet. It was a very lively discussion - (see Brian's quote:

"I was a little worried yesterday when this thread "exploded" with activity. It is my hope that the site will remain as Gran says, "calm and respectful." In fact if you will all take a minute to read the TOS and the "Read this first" threads you will see that the main goal of this site is to welcome all LC lifestyles into a safe friendly place.
I don't think this thread has violated that ideal, but it is treading the line. Thank you all for remaining calm and having a "grown-up" conversation.
<snipped>
I think that as I reread this thread that we all agree that Kimmer's ideal plan is not healthy. We here at the site do not recommend that anyone follow that plan. I think it is obvious that we all agree that fats are not evil. I have proven to myself that even though I started eating lower fat meats, and less cheese, that I still had more fat than anything in my diet.
Maybe the confusion in this thread is the title. What if we renamed the board to something like "Balanced Nutritional Ideas" I had not heard before that too much protein could cause a stall. I need to go look at what I'm eating and see if I can cut back on protein for a while. Might help me out.
One final thought. The forum at Camp Carbaway has been created to help each other on the path to weight loss. We opened it up to give people a home who were not welcome at other forums. We don't want this place to become a fight. Please continue to post your feelings, thoughts, and experiences. Remember that we are not doctors, or nutritionists (unless you really are) and that we are all just sharing the things that we have learned from other resources. The whole medical profession does not agree so how on earth will we all agree. Take others comments in the manner meant (which I hope is friendly info) and return your comments in kind.")

Then TT posted something - which she erased at some point - and that's when Jimmy posted his "good-bye". Lord knows what she said to him.

Also: TT was touting her Kimikins-style plan as CTF (cut the fat).

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by JoSkids

Pitter patter on your roof?! You still have a roof?! Where in CA are you - we had the wind storm from heck last night. We actually do still have our roof, but missing a fence...

I'm on the central coast.

We had our heavy winds on Wednesday and Thursday prior to the rain. When I wrote that post, I'd just gotten home and the rain was just starting to get hard.

It rained pretty hard all last night, so it should be interesting to see what the news has to report from the burn areas.

Sorry to hear about your fence, but I'm glad you still have a roof.

Stay safe and warm....

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by gibster

From Jimmy Moore: I appreciate the invite and request to blog about this new venture, but I'm gonna have to take a pass. There's nothing new under the sun here.

Okay, I think I read Jimmy's words wrong. He is saying that he's passing on Tippy's request that he blog about her new site. Ahhh...that's why she gave him access to her site.... Too bad, Tippy...

It would make sense that Jimmy wouldn't blog about her site to save giving her any press at all.

Sheesh... just thinking about the underhanded reasons she gave Jimmy a "free membership" is making my head hurt. I wonder if she's been this manipulative since she was born or if Kimmer gave her free how-to classes on exploiting others.

[gibster]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

It would make sense that Jimmy wouldn't blog about her site to save giving her any press at all.

Sheesh... just thinking about the underhanded reasons she gave Jimmy a "free membership" is making my head hurt. I wonder if she's been this manipulative since she was born or if Kimmer gave her free how-to classes on exploiting others.

Exactly! Why would Jimmy encourage people to sign up on TT's thread (for a fee), when he has his own free forum, unless TT was hoping he would endorse her CTF plan.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

May I suggest that Tippy-Pocahontas(s) and Jimmy smoke the peace pipe together and be happy campers again?

Geez. Can't we all just get along???

Methinks it might take more than a peace pipe for Pokey.

[droppin]

I am so confused what is Kimmers?

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by gibster

Exactly! Why would Jimmy encourage people to sign up on TT's thread (for a fee), when he has his own free forum, unless TT was hoping he would endorse her CTF plan.

ITA... I also think maybe she thought to herself "If he endorsed KK at one time and Hidey got all those new memberships, he could endorse me and I could too!" Jimmy learned from his mistake, too bad SWSNBN didn't.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by droppin

I am so confused what is Kimmers?

Kimmers=Kimkins fraud founder Heidi Diaz. She still has a profile here under the name of "Kimmer"

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by gibster

The camp counselors were upset with JM because he asked about the diets-in-review on the camp threads instead of PMing TT. But the funny thing is, JM had started a discussion about the importance of fats in the diet. It was a very lively discussion - (see Brian's quote:

"I was a little worried yesterday when this thread "exploded" with activity. It is my hope that the site will remain as Gran says, "calm and respectful." In fact if you will all take a minute to read the TOS and the "Read this first" threads you will see that the main goal of this site is to welcome all LC lifestyles into a safe friendly place.
I don't think this thread has violated that ideal, but it is treading the line. Thank you all for remaining calm and having a "grown-up" conversation.
<snipped>
I think that as I reread this thread that we all agree that Kimmer's ideal plan is not healthy. We here at the site do not recommend that anyone follow that plan. I think it is obvious that we all agree that fats are not evil. I have proven to myself that even though I started eating lower fat meats, and less cheese, that I still had more fat than anything in my diet.
Maybe the confusion in this thread is the title. What if we renamed the board to something like "Balanced Nutritional Ideas" I had not heard before that too much protein could cause a stall. I need to go look at what I'm eating and see if I can cut back on protein for a while. Might help me out.
One final thought. The forum at Camp Carbaway has been created to help each other on the path to weight loss. We opened it up to give people a home who were not welcome at other forums. We don't want this place to become a fight. Please continue to post your feelings, thoughts, and experiences. Remember that we are not doctors, or nutritionists (unless you really are) and that we are all just sharing the things that we have learned from other resources. The whole medical profession does not agree so how on earth will we all agree. Take others comments in the manner meant (which I hope is friendly info) and return your comments in kind.")

Then TT posted something - which she erased at some point - and that's when Jimmy posted his "good-bye". Lord knows what she said to him.

Also: TT was touting her Kimikins-style plan as CTF (cut the fat).

Wait, wait ... I'm confused ... I thought the camp supported all diet plans. I thought TT supported Kimkins' plans. So how does Brian saying that they all agree that Kimmer's plan isn't healthy fit into it all? It doesn't make sense. Someone explain it to me, please?

[WildAngel6]

Medusa: TIME'S UP !!! THE COMMENT-POSTING CONTEST IS OVER !!!

Ok, it's time to tally up all your comments and let Medusa know how you did!

Thank you EVERYONE for playing along! You are ALL winners in MY book!

This has been great fun!


p.s. I really hope some of you have gotten in to the habit of posting comments on blogs and will continue to do so. It certainly helps with the cause!

[ixtapacheryl]

Someone e-mailed me this post from Kimmer. I don't know if this was posted before and if so I apologize. It has to do with the controversy:

" Kimkins Controversy Print E-mail

Dear Kimkins Members,

OK, so it's time to come clean.

In view of recent events and the feedback I've received from members, I've decided to set a few things straight. Those of you who know me are well aware I'm a private person and prefer to remain that way. However, that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

So, let's put a few questions to rest:

Q: Who is Kimmer?

A: Heidi Diaz

Q: Why the drama, denial and hiding?

A: For the past 10 years it was to avoid an invasion of my own privacy. However, for the past 3 years it was also to protect the identity of my foster children. California foster regulations prohibit foster parents from making statements that would identify children as "foster", even by association. If I'm identified so are they.

Q: Did you lose 198 pounds in 11 months?

A: No. But I did lose 100 pounds in 6 months. Since Kimkins appeared on the Woman's World cover, I've been glued to my computer. I'm no different than you and I'm very familiar with stress eating or grabbing what's handy instead of what's Kimkins friendly.

Q: So you've regained the weight?

A: Yes, but that's due to personal issues and is no reflection on Kimkins. I've been back on track for several weeks and you can track my progress on the Kimkins homepage. I'll be experimenting and rotating with various Kimkins diet options.

Q: What about the model photos in some of the Success Stories?

A: The majority of our earliest Success Stories were from another website and we couldn't take those with us. We wanted to show visitors the possibilities with Kimkins. So, while we built up our newest batch, I created stories which were a compilation of successes that people shared with me over the past 10 years. We're extremely proud of the successes of everyone who follows the Kimkins weight loss plan.

Q: You have been photographed without hair. What's that about?

A: I developed alopecia universalis 23 years ago. It is an autoimmune disease that causes total body hair loss and runs in my family. My other autoimmune conditions include hypothyroidism and eczema.

Q: Will we ever meet "Kimmer"?

A: I'm going to do my best. I am truly a shy person who prefers to stay in the background, but a Kimkins Cruise is in the works for 2008 and I'll be there to meet & greet everyone! We'll also be asking members for feedback on local meet-ups so everyone has a chance to meet me and network with each other. Support is everything in successful long term weight loss.

Q: What about the people who joined Kimkins because of your weight loss or the success story re-enactments?

A: I offer my sincere apology to anyone who felt misled or joined purely on that basis. That was never my intent. Bottom line is that Kimkins is a rapid weight loss plan that works without surgery, special food or pills.

We'll offer a refund and membership cancellation to anyone who joined prior to 11/1/07 and isn't currently using the website. You can't continue using Kimkins resources and ask for a refund later. Please write support@kimkins.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it with your full name, user name, PayPal transaction ID number and mailing address.

Q: What about the people who want to continue with Kimkins?

A: A lifetime membership is lifetime. You're here and that's permanent!

In fact, I'm part of the "Watch Us Lose" models on the homepage and update my stats each week. I'll lose my weight all over again and everyone is welcome to lose with me me. Baseline medical tests done before restarting and I'll share my initial and final results once I reach goal. Members can check in on my daily posts at my weight loss discussion.
Q: Anything else?

A: Kimkins works. I've offered diet advice online for 10 years and was hugely successful which is why Kimkins became a hit. I helped people voluntarily for 8 years and then started a website. My goal has always been for people to learn the very simple, very effective basics of quick weight loss. This remains my focus today.
Q: What about starting a Kimmer Challenge?

A: Excellent! Let's do it! Check out my Kimmer's Back on Track Challenge thread and say "Hi!" One of our ladies was recently chosen as a model by her local health club!
Q: Where can I find out more about the Kimkins diet?



A: Read through Thinking About Kimkins for some frequently asked questions and a 3 day sample menu. If you have additional questions, you can write me directly at AskKimmer@gmail.com.This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Members can can find me in the Kimkins Cafe forum!

2008 is here. How do you want to spend next summer? Sweaty and hot from lugging around extra body fat or trim and healthy (and wearing cute outfits)? Your choice."

[gibster]

Cheryl, that was the post that was made the morning of the deposition - and the M&J show.

[lowcarbmargi]

Her explanation post changed. It is now called "The Kimkins Debate" (as if there's a debate that it's a complete FRAUD) and it's been edited. Thanks Cheryl for archiving the original here.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Her explanation post changed. It is now called "The Kimkins Debate" (as if there's a debate that it's a complete FRAUD) and it's been edited. Thanks Cheryl for archiving the original here.

actually, what cheryl posted from her email is the updated "The Kimkins Debate" text, not the original.

the original text from "The Kimkins Controversey" included a deadline for requesting refunds, people only had like 3 or 4 days to get their refund.

now, it seems from this current section that anyone who's not currently using the site and was a member before 11/1/07 can still get a refund. this is her way of trying to undermine the lawsuit.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by Cutie

actually, what cheryl posted from her email is the updated "The Kimkins Debate" text, not the original.

the original text from "The Kimkins Controversey" included a deadline for requesting refunds, people only had like 3 or 4 days to get their refund.

now, it seems from this current section that anyone who's not currently using the site and was a member before 11/1/07 can still get a refund. this is her way of trying to undermine the lawsuit.

Whoops! My bad! I do remember the bit about requesting a refund before 11-14 (I think), you are right by extending the refund offer she is trying to keep people from joining the suit.

[ixtapacheryl]