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Old 01-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #2041
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yes, I haven't noticed any different pic of him...just diff underwear, lol
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:00 PM   #2042
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yes, I haven't noticed any different pic of him...just diff underwear, lol
Different underwear?! What did I miss?
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:01 PM   #2043
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lol...the men use briefs to display their weight loss over there, lol
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:04 PM   #2044
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Just to let you all know -- I have an 'invisible' counter on my blog, which not only lets me track how many people have visited, it tells me how they got there.

I usually get around 100-150 people per day. Yesterday, I had a huge spike in traffic, more than 300 people. That's nice but what was really gratifying was seeing how many of them, from all over the country, got there by doing Google and Yahoo etc. searches for things like Kimkins + dangerous and Kimkins + lawsuit and things like that.

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Wow. Now there's a visual. Kind of disturbing, really.
Oops, I didn't even plan that one!

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There is no doubt in my mind that "honnybe2" is heidi. I don't have any copies of the "wonderwoman" rants, but as I am remembering them, the wording in them sounds very similar to what "honnybe2" said.

WW attacked Christin the same way. Also, "hb2" seemed to have an intimate knowledge of LCF that only someone who has been involved for a long time with it would have. Who is still over at Kimkins that has been involved with LCF for a long time? Is there anyone?
I agree Terry! That was my first instinct. It is the same tone she used when speaking of Catherine and how she was mad about the money...in wonderwoman's mind that is all it ever is about. Something in the tone sounded personal too when she was running around the board being wonderwoman, also the blog over the weekend was wonderwomanish and then the Hb2 thing too. It definitely reads like a wonderwoman weekend. There are only a couple of people I could see posting that and Kimmer is the main one.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:04 PM   #2045
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lol...the men use briefs to display their weight loss over there, lol
LOL! I know what you are talking about now. I thought maybe he posted a picture of him in his underwear! I don't even want to think about that one. I'm with Marisol. He looks older than 54.
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Well, I went to look at kimkins site and there is one post on Kimkins blog that makes me very upset, about "are your diabetes meds making you fat". And discusses weight gain associated with insulin and some of the meds. The implication is that if you are taking (NEEDED) diabetes medication, perhaps going off the meds will make you lose weight.

Its a common, dangerous practice among young teen girls who are supposed to be on insulin to not take their insulin, so that they cant get the calories from sugar eaten. Of course, the sugar then soars to dangerous highs in the blood and tears up kidneys, blood vessels, nerves, etc. The same thing happens to someone who doesnt take a diabetes medication such as glyburide.

I'm all for trying to come off meds and lose weight and naturally get blood sugar under control when doing low carb. But to plant the idea of stopping diabetes meds when they are needed is completely irresponsible.

Physicans are completely aware of weight gain as a possible side effect with some meds and try to use meds capable of causing weight gain sparingly, and only when necessary. And weight gain will be minimal if diet is controlled correctly so that there isn't excess sugar in the first place.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:09 PM   #2047
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Y'all scared me with the underwear talk.......
Why is Gary not on the success page or why didn't he go on GMA? Is a man losing weight not the same draw for "newbies" as singingass?
His did have some slide show up once showing him on his deck and I think you could click on it and go to his photo bucket. That was month or so ago. I am not sure if it is still there.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:13 PM   #2048
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Y'all scared me with the underwear talk.......
Why is Gary not on the success page or why didn't he go on GMA? Is a man losing weight not the same draw for "newbies" as singingass?
His did have some slide show up once showing him on his deck and I think you could click on it and go to his photo bucket. That was month or so ago. I am not sure if it is still there.
HB - I had forgotten about the "drawers" with your weight loss on them. I told Kat earlier that I think I'm having KK induced confusion!
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:16 PM   #2049
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lol....maybe gary knows that if you go public on KK you lose your job!! lol
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:17 PM   #2050
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HB...hope you had more stuff to send to Nessa...
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:45 PM   #2051
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HB - I had forgotten about the "drawers" with your weight loss on them. I told Kat earlier that I think I'm having KK induced confusion!
Rebel!!! I didn't recognize you without your house! How have you been? I honestly blanked out without the avi. I have been skimming and didn't make the connection.

ETA- talk about kk induced confusion...I had to arrow back up and make sure I typed "deck" in that comment above, with all the underwear talk I didn't want to make a Freudian slip...

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Old 01-21-2008, 08:48 PM   #2052
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yeah, Honey...she's just a happy face these days, lol. Her house is beautiful and even more so with the snow!!
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Rebel!!! I didn't recognize you without your house! How have you been? I honestly blanked out without the avi. I have been skimming and didn't make the connection.
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yeah, Honey...she's just a happy face these days, lol. Her house is beautiful and even more so with the snow!!
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:19 PM   #2054
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How Anorexia affects the whole body..Kimkins..

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Old 01-21-2008, 09:27 PM   #2055
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Ok, I just left another comment over there. I'm done. I had to go see the comments posted by I am not kimmer in person
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:29 PM   #2056
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nice graph there Carolyn---

on a side note about that---you don't have to be 80 lbs soaking wet to have anorexia---you can be 400 lbs and be anorexia and it kills you quicker than the smaller person.....
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nice graph there Carolyn---

on a side note about that---you don't have to be 80 lbs soaking wet to have anorexia---you can be 400 lbs and be anorexia and it kills you quicker than the smaller person.....
ITA.
I mentioned in my comments at GMA that while overweight, my mom is anorexic.
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:35 PM   #2058
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Exactly..It's all about malnutrition and I'm sure a heavier person needs more calories just to get around, so they might get malnourished faster than a thin person..
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:04 PM   #2059
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Exactly..It's all about malnutrition and I'm sure a heavier person needs more calories just to get around, so they might get malnourished faster than a thin person..
However, the popular stereotype of the anorexic is always a skeletal female. Whenever a fat person is rushed to ER, anorexia is the last the last thing the doctors think of. Like that one poor guy, linked many threads and hundreds of posts ago, who feared food so much that he starved to death at 600 and plenty pounds. So much for Heidi's theory. Here's a little blurb I picked up-


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And we thought we had water retention problems! He died at 42 years of age within 7 years of trying a 500-calorie diet. Hope those KK'ers don't suffer the same fate in a few years.
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Ya know, you had to go and mess things up for me,

I posted earlier about Heidi gaining 200 lbs in 2 months and what a joke that is and you had to put this in here

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Ya know, you had to go and mess things up for me,

I posted earlier about Heidi gaining 200 lbs in 2 months and what a joke that is and you had to put this in here
There is no faster weight gain, none! OMG! He really was doing Kimkins
Well, she did gain 200 pounds even faster than that guy...talk about water weight.

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Well, she did gain 200 pounds even faster than that guy...talk about water weight.

come on now...that's not fair....STRESS will make you retain a little bit of water...sheesh!!!!!
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nice graph there Carolyn---

on a side note about that---you don't have to be 80 lbs soaking wet to have anorexia---you can be 400 lbs and be anorexia and it kills you quicker than the smaller person.....
Very True, BamaGal... and the same thing goes for Bulimia.
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Rebel!!! I didn't recognize you without your house! How have you been? I honestly blanked out without the avi. I have been skimming and didn't make the connection.

ETA- talk about kk induced confusion...I had to arrow back up and make sure I typed "deck" in that comment above, with all the underwear talk I didn't want to make a Freudian slip...
Honey! That "deck" comment was a hoot!
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