Why the fascination with Kimmer? #13

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by flowerpower

Mangus (Missy) started Atkinsfriends.com late 1999. She and 808State (Mike) also bought the domain name Lowcarbfriends.com. They spun off from another Atkins escribe site that was quite snarky. That was probably the one Chleo mentions. Anyone remember BostonKitty? She was one of the snarky ones.

Like Celeste said, both sites are the same, bought and registered by the same people.

Yep, and Evil Terry? LOL WE had a lot of Trolls on the old board.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

Yeah Heidi! Just do Kimkins! You said it would work, and it's so healthy!

Need Recipes? Here! Check this out!

I Hate Confrontation Kimkins And Other Affiliate Marketing Nightmares

Is it just me? Or is there something wrong with this???

Wrong in what way? Amy didn't leave Kimkins because she felt the diet didn't work. In her case, and with an apparently balanced WOE, she has done well. So she isn't going to be hypocritical and blame the diet. Her problem was with its lying founder, and the PBTP, as far as I can determine. I thought, under the circumstances, that her offer to put up a disclaimer was entirely fair. The only quibble I had was that her disclaimer basically said - I left Kimkins , NOT that the diet was too low in calories and fat even at 800 calories per day. And citing an URL to a medical professional discussing the effects of too low calories would add to its informative value. "I left" is not saying much.

[LoraJR72]

Members of (Jim) Jones' church called Jones "Father" and believed that their movement was the solution to the problems of society, and many did not distinguish Jones from the movement. The group gradually moved away from the mainstream.

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Some members of LCF called Kimmer the next best thing on the internet and believed that Kimmer's "experiment" was the solution to their weight problems, and many did not distinguish Kimmer from LCF. Kimmer and friends moved away and joined the mainstream.

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Hmm? Kimkins sounds almost like a cult, doesn't it?

[**Lola**]

With all due respect Miss Merize, your emails to Amy show you in an unfavorable light.

It looks like you were threatening ("I'm not the only one who thinks this"..."I'm going to write about you in my blog") and harrassing this woman because she wouldn't do what you thought she should do.

Wow! Unbelievable.

The more I read this thread, the more appalled and shocked I am.

[emmyjane]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

With all due respect Miss Merize, your emails to Amy show you in an unfavorable light.

It looks like you were threatening ("I'm not the only one who thinks this"..."I'm going to write about you in my blog") and harrassing this woman because she wouldn't do what you thought she should do.

Wow! Unbelievable.

I think the message is definitely commendable (to alert her how people could interpret her videos as promoting Kimkins), but boy... the delivery needs some polishin'.

As the saying goes... you can catch more bees with honey than vinegar...

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by **Lola**

With all due respect Miss Merize, your emails to Amy show you in an unfavorable light.

It looks like you were threatening ("I'm not the only one who thinks this"..."I'm going to write about you in my blog") and harrassing this woman because she wouldn't do what you thought she should do.

Wow! Unbelievable.

The more I read this thread, the more appalled and shocked I am.

It wasn't a threat, but more of a "heads up".

The first response back that was "I probably won't do anything" was really sad!

I understand what you are saying Lola, but she has known about this problem for months, and is hiding in the bushes.

If she had just said, "I've been busy, but will be attending to the matter soon" or "I could use some help" on the first reply, the story on the blog would have been much different.

Her initial response really let's me see what Amy is all about.

I'm on to bigger and better things now anyway.

Here is video about filling out the form for the FTC.

File a Complaint with the FTC on Kimkins! Kimkins And Other Affiliate Marketing Nightmares

[wifezilla]

With all due respect Miss Merize, your emails to Amy show you in an unfavorable light. It looks like you were threatening

There was no threat. Other people DO agree with her. As someone who makes and edits videos, it would take her about 15 minutes to cut out that section of video and reupload. If the recipe is the important part, showing her weight loss isn't necessary....ESPECIALLY if it is credited to a dangerous eating plan.

[LoraJR72]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

There was no threat. Other people DO agree with her. As someone who makes and edits videos, it would take her about 15 minutes to cut out that section of video and reupload. If the recipe is the important part, showing her weight loss isn't necessary....ESPECIALLY if it is credited to a dangerous eating plan.

Someone should tell Amy about free movie editing software if she's having problem "fixing" her video.

Adobe Premiere Pro CS3.

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by SMP

Wrong in what way? Amy didn't leave Kimkins because she felt the diet didn't work. In her case, and with an apparently balanced WOE, she has done well. So she isn't going to be hypocritical and blame the diet. Her problem was with its lying founder, and the PBTP, as far as I can determine. I thought, under the circumstances, that her offer to put up a disclaimer was entirely fair. The only quibble I had was that her disclaimer basically said - I left Kimkins , NOT that the diet was too low in calories and fat even at 800 calories per day. And citing an URL to a medical professional discussing the effects of too low calories would add to its informative value. "I left" is not saying much.

You contradict yourself though. Why would she ever admit that,

"the diet was too low in calories and fat even at 800 calories per day"

if, as you say,

"in her case, and with an apparently balanced WOE, she has done well."

[Katinsac]

Sounds like Amy had a different disclaimer but this is what she has now:

*Disclaimer:

The early videos were made while I was doing the Kimkins diet and in some of them, I reference the Kimkins Diet. I no longer support that diet, nor do I recommend anyone join Kimkins.

Not a lot of info but at least she is not recommending Kimkins.

[Ilpirata]

THREADJACK - TIME WARP...
THIS, THIS Quote is Genius:

That was the most impressive act of spamming solidarity ever perpetrated by a squad of hater detectives in the history of the universe

It was, it really was that whole Team Seen thing Carpet bombing the KK site...
aaargh, I missed ALL THE FUN!

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

THREADJACK - TIME WARP...
THIS, THIS Quote is Genius:



It was, it really was that whole Team Seen thing Carpet bombing the KK site...
aaargh, I missed ALL THE FUN!

I get the biggest "kick" out of reading your posts...About how far you are into the "Threads".

[Ilpirata]

I get the biggest "kick" out of reading your posts...About how far you are into the "Threads".

I'm on Pg 68 of Number 6. And yes I've read them all including that Jaba The Thread of an original. I'm past the PI Pics, the KTLA News Story, The Russian Brides, The Nyet Red Dress... Whats next whats next... It really IS exciting and Fun even though I know it already happened.

[jeanessa]

I need help again ASAP! PM me if you are willing....

[This time]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I need help again ASAP! PM me if you are willing....

Nessa..YOUR KILLING ME!!!!

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by This time

Nessa..YOUR KILLING ME!!!!

I know, doesn't it suck!

Okay, I'll put it this way.

Have you followed the Kimkins diet, suffered hair loss or other ill effects and are willing to speak out to the WORLD about this scam?

If so, PM me ASAP!

[This time]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I know, doesn't it suck!

Okay, I'll put it this way.

Have you followed the Kimkins diet, suffered hair loss or other ill effects and are willing to speak out to the WORLD about this scam?

If so, PM me ASAP!

went on the diet a very short time, almost passed out,went right off ,thats it

[CarolynF]

Nessa: How about the Survivor Stories..??

[SMP]

Originally Posted by anipomoni

You contradict yourself though. Why would she ever admit that, if, as you say,

No real contradiction, Ani. Like most people, she followed her own version of Kimkins and ate what she believed followed the guidelines. The 800 calorie upper limit was established by TT after Amy left. The rules were ambiguous in the amount of fat permitted, and she might have been one who added extra fat where she felt it was needed. Since I haven't come across any evidence (or forgotten it) that her health was damaged, she may have just been one of those fortunates whose youth and nutritional status could handle the temporary restrictions of Kimkins.
The most important point I read was that she supported the work of the ducks, if not all their methods.

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Nessa: How about the Survivor Stories..??

Yes, any of the survivors who would be willing to speak up would be great candidates! I would just need them to contact me...

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

Members of (Jim) Jones' church called Jones "Father" and believed that their movement was the solution to the problems of society, and many did not distinguish Jones from the movement. The group gradually moved away from the mainstream.

_______________________________________________

Some members of LCF called Kimmer the next best thing on the internet and believed that Kimmer's "experiment" was the solution to their weight problems, and many did not distinguish Kimmer from LCF. Kimmer and friends moved away and joined the mainstream.

______________________________________

Hmm? Kimkins sounds almost like a cult, doesn't it?

Yes, we have made that comparison many times too. Especially, when members had responded to some posts at another blog and Kimmer pretty much told the KK members to not respond and return to their "safe place'. The entire safe place, haven or making of one's own bubble of reality spooks me and sounds like a cult too.

Originally Posted by Ilpirata

THREADJACK - TIME WARP...
THIS, THIS Quote is Genius:
It was, it really was that whole Team Seen thing Carpet bombing the KK site...
aaargh, I missed ALL THE FUN!

Aaahhh......good times!

Originally Posted by Tooter

I get the biggest "kick" out of reading your posts...About how far you are into the "Threads".

I know me too tooter. It is like reminiscing. It also helps me remember how far we have come and what has been accomplished by the efforts of many.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

I saw your post over there.. Well, she now weighs 275..I thought she weighed less last week..but she probably had a cookie meltdown after seeing Mysttwalker on Friday at the CVS...She might have thought the ducks were taking over the neighborhood.

I don't understand it, she should just do Kimkins and she will lose a pound a day..She has been on her diet since November 12th..It's been 2 months, she should be down at least 60 pounds by now, don't ya think?

Hey she said if she had it to "do over", she'd fast it off. There's another lie she's caught in!

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

actually Kimmer was 274 last week cause i used her numbers in some of my commnets over the weekend before the change today. wow up a pound what happened to a pound a day or it was a stall and it was cause you didn't want it bad enough.

Either that or she's being a sissy and just isn't strong enough to do KK.

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

Didn't it seem obvious to anyone it wasn't her to begin with regarding all of the "after" pictures?

Yes, I said from the beginning that I KNEW the red dress pic was not her! That was my personal light bulb moment.

Originally Posted by LoraJR72

Members of (Jim) Jones' church called Jones "Father" and believed that their movement was the solution to the problems of society, and many did not distinguish Jones from the movement. The group gradually moved away from the mainstream.

_______________________________________________

Some members of LCF called Kimmer the next best thing on the internet and believed that Kimmer's "experiment" was the solution to their weight problems, and many did not distinguish Kimmer from LCF. Kimmer and friends moved away and joined the mainstream.

______________________________________

Hmm? Kimkins sounds almost like a cult, doesn't it?

Yes, this comparison has been made many times. I got in trouble once for saying it.

Originally Posted by SMP

No real contradiction, Ani. Like most people, she followed her own version of Kimkins and ate what she believed followed the guidelines. The 800 calorie upper limit was established by TT after Amy left. The rules were ambiguous in the amount of fat permitted, and she might have been one who added extra fat where she felt it was needed. Since I haven't come across any evidence (or forgotten it) that her health was damaged, she may have just been one of those fortunates whose youth and nutritional status could handle the temporary restrictions of Kimkins.
The most important point I read was that she supported the work of the ducks, if not all their methods.

Does anyone know if Heidi herself ever approved the 800 calorie minimum? It's easy to go on TV and say "we" are willing to make changes and "we" established an 800 calorie minimum. The real question is, under what authority were those statements made, and did Heidi buy into it?

[v0xhumana]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Hey she said if she had it to "do over", she'd fast it off. There's another lie she's caught in!

Either that or she's being a sissy and just isn't strong enough to do KK.

I remember her discussion about a conversation with her Indian doctor. He was convinced that we Americans have a feeding "fetish", and because of this, we have this morbid phobia of fasting and missing meals. We ugly Americans have convinced ourselves that we will DIE if we fast for longer than a week. The rest of the world fasts regularly, for religious reasons, for much longer than that. Essentially, the conversation boiled down to the fact that her dr. believed that we are all a bunch of sissies.

Does anyone know if Heidi herself ever approved the 800 calorie minimum? It's easy to go on TV and say "we" are willing to make changes and "we" established an 800 calorie minimum. The real question is, under what authority were those statements made, and did Heidi buy into it?

I would think at this point that she would say ANYTHING to be able to salvage her ill-gotten fortune. I'm still wondering how she's still getting money, and why affiliates aren't dropping her like a hot potato, considering all her assets are allegedly frozen.