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Old 01-11-2008, 01:12 PM   #1051
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:26 PM   #1052
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:39 PM   #1053
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:45 PM   #1054
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You are probably correct. I don't want to cause trouble for anyone. It makes me upset to see so many people hurt and the gullible people still joining Kimkins because of the negative publicity!
Lora, gullible and negative publicity don't belong in the same sentence. Those who joined knowing the dangers after seeing the KTLA news stories don't need either our concern nor our action. They chose their course deliberately. It's the ones who had no prior warning that we should be concerned with.
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I'm sure they'll want to get the MA Attorney General involved. It is possible Ms. Diaz has broken Federal laws as well? OOH! I do know a couple of reporters at FOX25 News. Is it okay if I email them this thread? Would anyone have an issue with that?
I don't see why that hurt the CAL ..... Hey Jeanessa - what do you think? It's been on TV in Calif. - the Mike and Juliet show, etc. What's one more show?

By the way I forgot to say

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OK you fantastic ladies. I've read up to half way through #5 fascination thread. Yes, I will I will I will read it all. But OMG THE NEWS STORY!!!!! Y'all must've been besides yourselves with GLEE!
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I know it's very FASCINATING! Welcome to you as well. After being involved with this since last summer (what summer?) all of us have had no life!
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:33 PM   #1057
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I don't see why that hurt the CAL ..... Hey Jeanessa - what do you think? It's been on TV in Calif. - the Mike and Juliet show, etc. What's one more show?

By the way I forgot to say



I know it's very FASCINATING! Welcome to you as well. After being involved with this since last summer (what summer?) all of us have had no life!
Thank you! By the way, the ladies I had mentioned who joined Kimkins was before October 15, 2007. They can join in the class action lawsuit after all if they choose. Should I direct them to Mr. Tiedt or can they contact their own attorney's??
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #1058
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:38 PM   #1059
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Lora, gullible and negative publicity don't belong in the same sentence. Those who joined knowing the dangers after seeing the KTLA news stories don't need either our concern nor our action. They chose their course deliberately. It's the ones who had no prior warning that we should be concerned with.
Didn't lots of those who joined initally, before the WW article, also have warning, though, right here on LCF? People make their decisions emotionally most of the time. It is very hard to ignore and brush off all those supposed people who are supposedly losing all that weight so fast. Which of us here - all of whom, I imagine, have or do struggle with our weight - haven't dreamt of finding THE plan that would do just what KK claims to do?

To turn our backs on folks and tell them they aren't worthy of our concern is, IMO, harsh at the least.

I agree with you often, SMP, but just can't get my mind around to your way of thinking on this one.
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Thank you! By the way, the ladies I had mentioned who joined Kimkins was before October 15, 2007. They can join in the class action lawsuit after all if they choose. Should I direct them to Mr. Tiedt or can they contact their own attorney's??
Send them here - it will give them all the information:

Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

Also, be sure to have them file a complaint with the FBI Internet Fraud Division (I3C). You can find that link on Medusa's blog here:

Medusa

We need to do more than just sue her, we need to get this information to the right people so she will be charged criminally and shut down.
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Thank you! By the way, the ladies I had mentioned who joined Kimkins was before October 15, 2007. They can join in the class action lawsuit after all if they choose. Should I direct them to Mr. Tiedt or can they contact their own attorney's??
Also, have them look through their email address books and see if they have contact info for other friends they made there and be sure THEY know what is going on. Lots of people joined and then left if they found the program too restrictive. They deserve to get their money back, too!
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Also, have them look through their email address books and see if they have contact info for other friends they made there and be sure THEY know what is going on. Lots of people joined and then left if they found the program too restrictive. They deserve to get their money back, too!

Thank you all for the information! I will direct them to those sites.

Let's keep up the good fight!
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Also, have them look through their email address books and see if they have contact info for other friends they made there and be sure THEY know what is going on. Lots of people joined and then left if they found the program too restrictive. They deserve to get their money back, too!

Thank you all for the information! I will direct them to those sites.

Let's keep up the good fight!
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Thank you! By the way, the ladies I had mentioned who joined Kimkins was before October 15, 2007. They can join in the class action lawsuit after all if they choose. Should I direct them to Mr. Tiedt or can they contact their own attorney's??
I have a little video for them to watch!

It will show them how to join the lawsuit! Join The Lawsuit Kimkins And Other Affiliate Marketing Nightmares

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:26 PM   #1066
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It will show them how to join the lawsuit! Join The Lawsuit Kimkins And Other Affiliate Marketing Nightmares


Oops! Sorry MissM! I forgot to direct her to your movie! By FAR one of the best links out there!
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:31 PM   #1067
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OK you guys sorry I keep threadjacking you with time warps but I have no one else to share this with as I catch up on the fascination threads (now on number 5)

THE RUSSIAN BRIDES!!! OMG!!!! You guys are incredible.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:46 PM   #1068
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OK you guys sorry I keep threadjacking you with time warps but I have no one else to share this with as I catch up on the fascination threads (now on number 5)

THE RUSSIAN BRIDES!!! OMG!!!! You guys are incredible.
Wasn't that incredible??? Our ducks are the best..One gal saw the pictures and thought they looked "foreign" so someone (can't member) thought to check out some sites..they discovered guys/gals, etc..and FINALLY The Lady in the Red Dress..It was another great day..

I'm printing out that article by Dr. Barnett..(whoever he is)..It's a great synopsis of the lawsuit.. The evidence is all there..It should be a slamdunk..
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RE: The Russian Brides. I also seem to remember somewhere in that humongous monstrosity called the original fascination thread that someone suggested foreign bride sites I think while the searching Jupiter madness was happening... to have it picked back up and then brought to such amazing fruition... FANTASTIC.

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Send them here - it will give them all the information:

Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

Also, be sure to have them file a complaint with the FBI Internet Fraud Division (I3C). You can find that link on Medusa's blog here:

Medusa

We need to do more than just sue her, we need to get this information to the right people so she will be charged criminally and shut down.
Absolutely.

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Wasn't that incredible??? Our ducks are the best..One gal saw the pictures and thought they looked "foreign" so someone (can't member) thought to check out some sites..they discovered guys/gals, etc..and FINALLY The Lady in the Red Dress..It was another great day..

I'm printing out that article by Dr. Barnett..(whoever he is)..It's a great synopsis of the lawsuit.. The evidence is all there..It should be a slamdunk..
I'm glad someone else reading back over all that has the same sort of 'edge-of-one's-seat' excitement we had during the Great Uncovering.

I believe it was the gal who goes by the name of "Cilantro" over at Jimmy's who first started the hunt on the Russian brides sites. I think she's also a member here, but has a different screen name.


to all the new faces!
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:19 PM   #1071
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I do not want to step on anyones toes here....BUT

Time to squash everything and move on.

As we know from reading the court papers Heidi is still having people sign up. The only way to guarantee the closing of the site is through the federal channels. Even WHEN Heidi loses the class action lawsuit---she can still run the site and sign up more unsuspecting people.

How about we ALL get involved here---here are some really good ways:

Contact the Federal Trade Commission
Federal Trade Commission - Offices and Bureaus
The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel®, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies worldwide



Internet Crime Complaint Center
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)
The IC3 is co-sponsored by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and regulatory agencies at the federal, state, local and international level, IC3 provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving Internet related crimes.

it does not take much of your time to file this report--it is very easily done
in my opinion---this is the most important thing we can do right now---


Contact your states Attorney General
FindLaw: State Resources: Attorneys General


another very simple thing to do---since this is the internet---each state should be involved not just CA

National Association of Attorney General's Computer Crime Point of Contact List (all state-related cyber questions)


National Consumers League’s Fraud Center
Use this form to report suspected telemarketing or Internet fraud.
Online Fraud Report Form

all of these next ones require very little time and effort---


Epinions.com
People search here for opinions on various things. So leave yours relating to Kimkins.
Become an Epinions member and publish your review.



Complaints.com Consumers in Control
Online compliant form

Complaints Board.com
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Troubleshooter.com
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Submit a compliant
Call the HelpCenter
1-866-966-HELP (4357)

ConsumerAffairs.com
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Complaint Form



If you have not contacted these agencies---my first question is
WHY THE SAM HILL NOT????

no offense ladies and gents---but the time spent he say she say back and forth could be better put to use

no, I am no discounting anyones feelings, nor do I wish to ruffle any feathers---I just want to see some action being done instead of just paying lip service to bringing Heidi and her minions to justice....

Don't be an arm chair quarterback--actually get into the game....
THANK YOU for that post!!!!!!!!!! It's time everybody kicked it into high gear and did something about this ongoing scam.

I spent a couple hours in KK this week and I have to tell you folks, I came out sickened. It is FULL of newbies that have no idea what they are getting into AND worse yet, it's also full of people who tried before and failed and now are coming back because it's the New Year and all that.

The fight needs to escalate. We need all hands on deck!!
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