Why the fascination with Kimmer? #13

[v0xhumana]

Originally Posted by susique333

quote: "Jeannie is still a very strong Kimkins supporter, and she remains my right hand here at Kimkins. Kimkins would not be the success it is today without all the hard work and support that Jeannie has given me and continues to give me on a daily basis."


THIS is where I think shes hanging onto TTs leg getting ready for the boat to sink. Such a sneak.

That's a great analogy. Oh, to be a little fly on the wall at JB's house right now...

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

This was from Diets in Review..Mrs. M..where Kimmer sent in a letter.

When you read this, it appears that Kimmer wants to entangle TT (Pokey) into her web of deceit. In fact, to incriminate her in her dastardly plans. Whatever happened to you on Kimkins, is Jeannie's fault NOT MINE. It's all about Jeannie..not me. Don't blame me if you are getting sick, Jeannie was giving you advice..not me. Does it sound like this to anyone else???

Thanks. I knew about it posted on Diets in Review but thought that might be a quote from KK and that would be proof she had written it.
It's definitely written to put doubt on TT and most likely to divert attention.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

This was from Diets in Review..Mrs. M..where Kimmer sent in a letter.

When you read this, it appears that Kimmer wants to entangle TT (Pokey) into her web of deceit. In fact, to incriminate her in her dastardly plans. Whatever happened to you on Kimkins, is Jeannie's fault NOT MINE. It's all about Jeannie..not me. Don't blame me if you are getting sick, Jeannie was giving you advice..not me. Does it sound like this to anyone else???

Sure why not ...... TT, SL can help pay the judgment when it's handed down. Heidi's trying to include anyone who "helped" her with the website - giving out advice, etc. (Safety in numbers)?

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Brady Bunch photos you say?

Here's the story, of an ugly lady
Who used faked weightloss stories with Russian broads.
She told members they could eat
and lose weight just like she did.
But it all turned out to be a big fraud!

Then one day this lady met the duck squad
Who knew her fraud was much more than a hunch.
Now these ducks are on a mission; to keep anyone
else from joining the Kimmer Bunch.

The Kimmer Bunch!
The Kimmer Bunch!

That is great!

Originally Posted by LINC

I haven't gone back and read the documents again, but of this is the case, I would think anything that exceeds $1.6 million would be free for her to take. Any NEW money coming in would be available to her once she hits $1.6 million. Did the documents say how much was in the accounts at the time they were impounded? Is it possible that they've reached that $1.6 million limit? Does that include the value of any of her property?

Lou

Lou- My take on things is Heidi Diaz is listed as a defendant and then so is Kimkins.com.
I say this based on the writ of attachment that was filed with Riverside courthouse. The document states the following-

Writ of attachment is appropriate as the claim arose as a Result of Defendant's commercial business
"A Natural person residing in California may have property attached only if the underlying claim arose from the conduct of his or her trade, business or profession." Code of Civil Procedure section 483.010(c)
The defendant may be the primary obligor, alter ego, or guarantor of the primary obligor Randall(1982) 129 Cal.App.3d 757,764.
There is not dispute that kimkins.com is a commercial business. The Kimkins.com website sold contract memberships since 2006 to the general public. In exchange for a fee, Kimkins.com provides dieting advice, dieting consultation, dieting recipes, an open web forum and other services and goods. A copy of the screen shots of the website were attached as exhibits to the Declaration of John E.Tiedt previously filed with this Court"

The Civil code 483.010 would allow the newly acquired house/property to be included in the assets based on the fact that it was purchased from money gained while conducting "business".

Then it goes on to state that Kimkins.com is a commercial business.

Writ of attachment for $1,618,965.22
again to cover the members who would be entitled to a refund.
Assets include
Citibank acct.
Nations back acct.
Real Estate $440,000
Paypal acct-
accounts receivable at kimkins.com

But Heidi has made every attempt to hang on to her money hasn't she?

One method she used was an attempt to apologize on her site to those "who felt misled" by the marketing and she would offer a full refund of the paid membership. Why the change of heart after the recent bannings? Heidi figured out that if she got enough members to take the refund then a class action lawsuit would not take place.

Another method Heidi used to hang on to her earnings was within two days following the writ of attachment hearing she closed an acct that held a mutual fund in excess of $800,000 was closed and the money transferred to another account. She then made an unsolicited payment of $700,000 to the IRS and $100,000 to the California franchise tax board.
This whittled the amount down to $38,000 in that account.

Heidi bought a house for $440,000 and paid cash in the hopes that the property could not be touched I would imagine.

In September Heidi was in the process of trying to hide her money in a trust and in another business that she had just set-up under the name Halcyon. She also set-up a plumbing business for her eldest son, but he is not a licensed plumber. So she is trying to use that money so the members can not be refunded.

Another move that Heidi tried was she emailed all members previous and current. She stated that kimkins was under new ownership. In the deposition she admitted under oath that that was a lie. I guess she thought it would deter us enough to give up...pfft as if!

At this point, as you can see, she has attempted to not be parted from her ill gained money. But John Tiedt is a sharp one and he knows she is trying to pull out every trick in the book.

At this point I am not sure what the total dollar amount Heidi has left over-
$440,000 + $38,000 we know for sure.
But man she is working at trying to keep that money.

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Honeybee2: I LOVE your new picture. Wow you had all of us fooled (or at least me). I pictured you with an apron on - grandmotherly type. You are soooo cute! Now I have to show you more respect!

Grandmother with an apron....really? lol ...Well, I am moving slow these days and I like a rocking chair. Oh thank you for the kind compliment. It was after playing beauty shop with my little girl. She was at home a few weeks ago taking a hooky day from school. Well, it really was an emotional day off. She is only in first grade, but a little boy had said the day before to her, that she was his girlfriend. My daughter didn't mention it when she got home, but apparently it was on her mind. After reading her a story that night she started crying out of the blue. Through the tears she told about the little boy calling her his girlfriend. She says, "But Mommy I don't want to marry him." Amazing that here she had went all day thinking she had to marry this boy. She kept crying during the night because she said what if he still likes me tomorrow. I told her boys can't decide how they feel as adults much less at 6 years old. I said he probably won't even remember, but I let her stay home the next day to rest and talk about how she would handle things. He wasn't in class the next day and then after the weekend it was forgotten. Sorry for the ramble, but I thought it was cute how she thought she had to get married.

[v0xhumana]

So, only her current accounts could be seized at the time? Apparently, the courts haven't forbidden her from just going to another bank and opening a new personal account (?). Am I reading that correctly?

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Thanks. I knew about it posted on Diets in Review but thought that might be a quote from KK and that would be proof she had written it. It's definitely written to put doubt on TT and most likely to divert attention.

ITA!!! It's a "look over there" diversionary tactic. She does it on a pretty regular basis.

[ixtapacheryl]

[quote
At this point I am not sure what the total dollar amount Heidi has left over-
$440,000 + $38,000 we know for sure.
But man she is working at trying to keep that money.

Let's not forget about the automobiles/van she purchased. Also what if she overpaid the IRS and the State? Hmmmm how will they treat the overpayment? So what it looks like to me is she hasn't come up with the $1.6MM for escrow.


Sorry for the ramble, but I thought it was cute how she thought she had to get married.[/quote]

Oh that is soooo cute. You will remember that incident until the day you die. Be sure and write it down somewhere so when she is older you can remind her of what she said, etc.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Go to the bottom of the page and click on the spot to send the webmaster an e-mail. Get a load of their e-mail!

LOL I almost misread that!

[Magicsmom]

Carolyn, I love your avatar!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

LOL I almost misread that!

Did you check it out? I cannot IMAGINE why someone would pick an e-mail like that!

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

[quote
At this point I am not sure what the total dollar amount Heidi has left over-
$440,000 + $38,000 we know for sure.
But man she is working at trying to keep that money.

Let's not forget about the automobiles/van she purchased. Also what if she overpaid the IRS and the State? Hmmmm how will they treat the overpayment? So what it looks like to me is she hasn't come up with the $1.6MM for escrow.

I don't believe for a minute that she would have payed those income taxes if this lawsuit hadn't come up.

[CarolynF]

Terry: Thanks, Terry..

No, she prepaid her income taxes..Who does that????????????????????

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

Did you check it out? I cannot IMAGINE why someone would pick an e-mail like that!

Yes, I meant I almost misread the email addy... faq4you? LOL

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Grandmother with an apron....really? lol ...Well, I am moving slow these days and I like a rocking chair. Oh thank you for the kind compliment. It was after playing beauty shop with my little girl. She was at home a few weeks ago taking a hooky day from school. Well, it really was an emotional day off. She is only in first grade, but a little boy had said the day before to her, that she was his girlfriend. My daughter didn't mention it when she got home, but apparently it was on her mind. After reading her a story that night she started crying out of the blue. Through the tears she told about the little boy calling her his girlfriend. She says, "But Mommy I don't want to marry him." Amazing that here she had went all day thinking she had to marry this boy. She kept crying during the night because she said what if he still likes me tomorrow. I told her boys can't decide how they feel as adults much less at 6 years old. I said he probably won't even remember, but I let her stay home the next day to rest and talk about how she would handle things. He wasn't in class the next day and then after the weekend it was forgotten. Sorry for the ramble, but I thought it was cute how she thought she had to get married.

Aww, that's so cute.
(Just as a head's up for you.lol) You're in for it when she finds out where babies come from. I had told my daughter all of it except how the sperm gets delivered to the egg (all in good time and all that. lol). A friend of hers filled her in at a slumber party and she came to me fully expecting me to tell her that her friend had lied to her. She wasn't thrilled to find out she hadn't. That was a couple of years ago and she's *still swearing she's not getting married and doing *THAT, ever!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

I don't believe for a minute that she would have payed those income taxes if this lawsuit hadn't come up.

I just thought of something ..... will she still have to pay income tax on the total $ - even if the courts decide she scammed people and has to pay her members back? I would think not - but what do I know. $700K seems like a hefy amount to pay for taxes - unless it was for both Federal and State.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I just thought of something ..... will she still have to pay income tax on the total $ - even if the courts decide she scammed people and has to pay her members back? I would think not - but what do I know. $700K seems like a hefy amount to pay for taxes - unless it was for both Federal and State.

I believe that is true, but I will ask DH. He's a tax CPA. I think that if you earned it, you owe taxes on it. The government doesn't care if you lost it after the fact.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Yes, I meant I almost misread the email addy... faq4you? LOL

Yup, that's the one, almost! It's not faq4you, it's fag4you. I don't get why someone would pick that for their e-mail address.

[Mayberryfan]

Honey,

Your daughter sounds adorable. I had a 2nd grader (little boy) come in from recess a few weeks ago all dejected. When I asked him what was wrong, he wailed that his life was over because his girlfriend had just broken up with him. Poor baby. It was cute and sad all at the same time!

OK, thread jack over....

[Cutie]

wow, thread #13 AND it's a friday night...

& you know what friday nights are like on this topic...hmm, what an ominous combination!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Magicsmom

I believe that is true, but I will ask DH. He's a tax CPA. I think that if you earned it, you owe taxes on it. The government doesn't care if you lost it after the fact.

That sure would be crushing - no money left over but you owe all the taxes. No wonder she paid them upfront. I wonder if she paid off the student loan judgment. Gosh I wonder what the property taxes are on that new home.

I still think that $700K is a lot of taxes against $2M income - but maybe not! That $2+M gross is before she deducted her business expenses (i.e. salaries to herself, alias, Brandon, website costs, etc.)

[gibster]

Writing letters home from camp --

From Jimmy Moore:
Since my simple posting about some questions that came up recently regarding the ongoing relationship between Heidi Diaz and Jeannie Battinger was described as "accusations" by me, then I no longer feel welcomed by Camp Carbaway. I was given a free membership to this forum for the distinct purpose of seeing that it is different than LCF and even my own forum, LowCarbDiscussion.com. But this place doesn't offer anything different than what you can find elsewhere for free. Again, I appreciate the invite and request to blog about this new venture, but I'm gonna have to take a pass. There's nothing new under the sun here. BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Cutie

wow, thread #13 AND it's a friday night...

& you know what friday nights are like on this topic...hmm, what an ominous combination!

We are leaving it up to you - pick a GOOD topic and be sure to keep it interesting.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by gibster

Writing letters home from camp --

From Jimmy Moore:
Since my simple posting about some questions that came up recently regarding the ongoing relationship between Heidi Diaz and Jeannie Battinger was described as "accusations" by me, then I no longer feel welcomed by Camp Carbaway. I was given a free membership to this forum for the distinct purpose of seeing that it is different than LCF and even my own forum, LowCarbDiscussion.com. But this place doesn't offer anything different than what you can find elsewhere for free. Again, I appreciate the invite and request to blog about this new venture, but I'm gonna have to take a pass. There's nothing new under the sun here. BEST WISHES TO EVERYONE!

LOVE it! Wonder what TT's paying members think of that. Maybe his post will be deleted before too many see it. (Was this posted on TT's site?)

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by gibster

Writing letters home from camp --

From Jimmy Moore:
Since my simple posting about some questions that came up recently regarding the ongoing relationship between Heidi Diaz and Jeannie Battinger was described as "accusations" by me, then I n