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Old 01-07-2008, 11:38 AM   #571
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Is it just the blood glucose levels fluctuating that causes that "wiped out" feeling or have you been diagnosed with hypoglycemia or diabetes? I ask because I am the exact same way, but I know that others can eat those type of foods.
Just fluctuating blood sugar levels can wipe you out. A DD has reactive hypoglycemia, and hers sinks like a rock when she 1. misses a meal 2. eats sugar. (First it shoots up, then sinks.) You want to talk to her only in the up phase, or she'll rip your face off! Diabetes and hypoglycemia are opposite sides of the blood sugar "coin", and eventually the one leads to the another. And she's gained a fair bit of weight in the past 6 months.

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I know if I am having trouble sleeping at night I can eat bad carbs and go into such a deep sleep, that when I awaken 8 plus hours later, I am in the same position- haven't moved a muscle. I will have the sheet crease line on my face and I also will be sweaty- damp. So something is off with me.....Ummm....no comments SMP. lol ....I mean something wrong, besides my obvious issues.
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A trigger food, really?!?! Do you totally avoid them then Terry? I think peanuts are a problem with me too.
Apples are a trigger food for me because I am allergic to them. Peanuts (especially salted) are a trigger for most people. Cooked salted nuts have more addictive qualities than the same nuts raw and unsalted. Salt is a trigger for some folks. I even like raw peanuts. The only way for me to control my nut eating is to have to crack them in the shell. It's messy and a lot of work.

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I forget which page in which book BUT - she was trying to make extra dough as a go-go type dancer and came down off the stage, landing on her high heels and both ankles broke. Many years ago now. Maybe it was her secret affair with alcohol that led to this drama, but she wore a wig while in her naughty role. (Boy, such similarities, eh?) However, her before and after pix look alike, and people have seen her. Resemblance ends.
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Barb- How were you diagnosed? Did you have to drink the glucose mixture and then get blood drawn? You were under the care of Dr. Atkins?!?! What were his thoughts on your hypogylcemia.....a result of insulin resistance?
HoneyBee, the first thing Dr. Atkins did was to give me a 6 hour glucose tolerance test right there at his medical center in NYC. He also did mineral analysis tests from my hair. Sure enough an hour after drinking that liquid, my blood sugar plummeted. I wanted to lie down and go to sleep.

He asked me to give him a rundown on what my menu looked like. At the time I thought I was eating a healthy breakfast 'cause I had a bran muffin (NO butter) and a yogurt to start the day. He was a straightforward pitbull at times, and told me I might as well be having cake for breakfast 'cause that is what that muffin was. And the sugar in the yogurt with fruit was adding insult to injury. He said "if you MUST have yogurt, buy the organic unsweetened kind. Add a little nutmeg and cinnamon for flavoring." Have some bacon and eggs for breakfast or an omelet. Months later, when I complained of being bored with eggs every morning, he said "Then eat a steak!" LOL.

You know, most people think of him as a diet doctor, but he was into all kinds of alternative medicine. He was a cardiologist, but his center had many different doctors there. They treated cancer, arthritis, diabetes, and who knows what else.
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I like the nutrition data website, too. First heard about it from Kimmer...

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Oh, and I think she's had a few nips/tucks, huh?

Dang, I'm so critical at certain times of the month. Heh.

The eyebrows are glamorous and the lip gloss rocks. But the black eye make-up is rather garish.
I remember when I read her book she said the only surgery she had was the "skin around her belly button that looked like a little old woman's" removed. Maybe I'm being dense, but if she were 260lbs at one time, wouldn't she need a full abdominoplasty and then some to get a body like Barbie doll?

That's another thing that ticked me off about her and other so-called "huge weight loss success stories." Real people are out there really losing hundreds of pounds, and they know that they aren't going to walk away from morbid obesity without some skin problems. That just keeps alive the misconception that if someone loses a hundred pounds, it'll make them instantly hot.

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A trigger food, really?!?! Do you totally avoid them then Terry? I think peanuts are a problem with me too.
Yes, I avoid them because I have to. If I eat an apple, I'll be into the bad carbs by the end of the day.
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Is it just the blood glucose levels fluctuating that causes that "wiped out" feeling or have you been diagnosed with hypoglycemia or diabetes? I ask because I am the exact same way, but I know that others can eat those type of foods.

In the past I would try to add protein and fat into the mix, but it had gotten to the point that even that would not work to counteract the effects of the carbs.

I know if I am having trouble sleeping at night I can eat bad carbs and go into such a deep sleep, that when I awaken 8 plus hours later, I am in the same position- haven't moved a muscle.
I have never been officially diagnosed. My maternal grandmother was dx'd with diabetes when she was 65 or so and she controlled it with the old "diabetic diet" (emphasis on no starch or sugar) and Diabinese, but my mother doesn't have it (althought her cardiologist has had her on a low carb diet for years, so that's probably why). I've always felt WAY better when I ate what sounded the best to me - meat, veggies, occasional bread, etc. I've never had an affinity for fruit, although I do like it sometimes, but it's nothing I've ever really craved. The things I have always craved are mostly proteins, fats, and good carbs.

I haven't always had a weight problem. When I was a teenager I was at a good weight. I gained during and after pregnancy, but was able to take it off and keep it off for many many years using Atkins 72. Any fluctuations of 5 - 10 pounds were easy to get under control.

Where I got off track and what kept me in the hole, so to speak, was a crappy chapter in my life where my finances were very meager and I could not sleep due to stress. I began to buy cheap, and supposedly "filling" high carb stuff like potatoes, pasta, rice (lots of rice), etc. instead of the healthier things I'd always bought. I found myself 'sleeping' better, but it wasn't really a good sleep, it was the fog of carbs, but it was sleep that I desperately needed. I wouldn't feel rested and refreshed in the mornings, but rather dulled. Drugged, in a way. Once my finances improved, though, it was very very difficult to get the monkey off my back. The more refined carbs I eat, the more I want; I am very addicted to them once I get started down that road, even if it's not my first choice of what to eat.


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HoneyBee, the first thing Dr. Atkins did was to give me a 6 hour glucose tolerance test right there at his medical center in NYC. He also did mineral analysis tests from my hair. Sure enough an hour after drinking that liquid, my blood sugar plummeted. I wanted to lie down and go to sleep.

He asked me to give him a rundown on what my menu looked like. At the time I thought I was eating a healthy breakfast 'cause I had a bran muffin (NO butter) and a yogurt to start the day. He was a straightforward pitbull at times, and told me I might as well be having cake for breakfast 'cause that is what that muffin was. And the sugar in the yogurt with fruit was adding insult to injury. He said "if you MUST have yogurt, buy the organic unsweetened kind. Add a little nutmeg and cinnamon for flavoring." Have some bacon and eggs for breakfast or an omelet. Months later, when I complained of being bored with eggs every morning, he said "Then eat a steak!" LOL.

You know, most people think of him as a diet doctor, but he was into all kinds of alternative medicine. He was a cardiologist, but his center had many different doctors there. They treated cancer, arthritis, diabetes, and who knows what else.
I have so much admiration for Dr. Atkins and always have. I always wanted to meet him and am perhaps a little envious you were able to have him as your physician.
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HoneyBee, the first thing Dr. Atkins did was to give me a 6 hour glucose tolerance test right there at his medical center in NYC. He also did mineral analysis tests from my hair. Sure enough an hour after drinking that liquid, my blood sugar plummeted. I wanted to lie down and go to sleep.
Oh the memories this brings back! When I had my second 2 hour glucose tolerance test to confirm the previous diagnosis of insulin resistance, about an hour into it, I sat in a chair where I could lean up against the wall. I didn't quite doze off, but sure wanted to!
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Barbara B, I have a question for you. What did Dr. A have to say about eating tomatoes and onions?
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Oh dammit! Say it isn't so! I was SO looking forward to instant hotness! I had my red dress all picked out and everything....sigh.
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Oh dammit! Say it isn't so! I was SO looking forward to instant hotness! I had my red dress all picked out and everything....sigh.
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Barbara B, I have a question for you. What did Dr. A have to say about eating tomatoes and onions?
Dr. A cautioned me to be careful with tomatoes and onions. Didn't say I couldn't have them, but more as a condiment than as a food. Longing for tomato? Have ONE slice. He also said that onions were more carby when cooked. In other words, it would be better to have them raw than cooked or caramelized. I love onions, so this was a particular topic of conversation with him. But one of the things about Dr. A was that he could NOT stand hunger for any length of time at all, and he understood that about his patients, too. So he always tried to give them alternatives for what they craved. Oh geez, if I sound like a Dr. A groupie, I was, and am. I adore/adored the man. He was constantly looking into new ways to treat people intelligently, rather than just throwing drugs at them.
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Dr. A cautioned me to be careful with tomatoes and onions. Didn't say I couldn't have them, but more as a condiment than as a food. Longing for tomato? Have ONE slice. He also said that onions were more carby when cooked. In other words, it would be better to have them raw than cooked or caramelized. I love onions, so this was a particular topic of conversation with him. But one of the things about Dr. A was that he could NOT stand hunger for any length of time at all, and he understood that about his patients, too. So he always tried to give them alternatives for what they craved. Oh geez, if I sound like a Dr. A groupie, I was, and am. I adore/adored the man. He was constantly looking into new ways to treat people intelligently, rather than just throwing drugs at them.

Yes my doctor told me the same things about tomatoes and onions. This was pre-Dr. Atkins. I absolutely love onions as well as the tomatoes. I still eat raw onions - but very rarely the other.

Gosh we have a celebrity in our midst .... you actually were a patient of Dr. A. Wow!
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Dr. A cautioned me to be careful with tomatoes and onions. Didn't say I couldn't have them, but more as a condiment than as a food. Longing for tomato? Have ONE slice. He also said that onions were more carby when cooked. In other words, it would be better to have them raw than cooked or caramelized. I love onions, so this was a particular topic of conversation with him. But one of the things about Dr. A was that he could NOT stand hunger for any length of time at all, and he understood that about his patients, too. So he always tried to give them alternatives for what they craved. Oh geez, if I sound like a Dr. A groupie, I was, and am. I adore/adored the man. He was constantly looking into new ways to treat people intelligently, rather than just throwing drugs at them.
I was just wondering about tomato-based dishes like chili. I also put diced tomatoes in my vegetable beef soup. So I guess I'm not really getting much. And someone used to post here who claimed to be a patient of his and said that he told her NO onions at all. That doesn't jive with what his book says, so I was wondering about that.
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I was just wondering about tomato-based dishes like chili. I also put diced tomatoes in my vegetable beef soup. So I guess I'm not really getting much. And someone used to post here who claimed to be a patient of his and said that he told her NO onions at all. That doesn't jive with what his book says, so I was wondering about that.
No, see that was one of the things I loved about Dr. A. He tried to work in your menu things that you liked or didn't like. His book was straight forward because he had to talk to the masses. But when treating you individually, he always tried to fit in your preferences. He really was good about that. And it was because from the very beginning, he himself KNEW that it was very iimportant not only not to feel hungry, but to feel SATISFIED.
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Maybe Heidi is eating too many onions? It's not the cream in her coffee, it's the onions in her martinis!

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