Why the fascination with Kimmer? #13 - Page 16

MissMerize · 01-06-2008, 11:17 AM

I just looked at this fitday

Looks like someone doing the induction for the M&M diet

:h yst:

lowcarbmargi · 01-06-2008, 11:19 AM

Lauren, thanks for sharing your story and a medical perspective in dieting. I agree, there's no quick way to find the best diet. It took me many years of floundered quite a bit before finding the woe that works best for me. When all the low carb stuff started coming into the supermarkets and restaurants I had been so jaded from regular diets I made the mistake of writing it off as a fad for the longest time.

Now that I'm more experienced I'd never do that again, but I still find that I have to be very careful and examine the labels fully as the food manufacturers and restaurants are really just capitalizing on this. Laura (wildangel6) just posted a link to a great article about how would be customers of KK aren't really curious because they aren't willing to do the work to find out more about how to do the diet properly. It's a great point and I'm inclined to agree. There's no quick fix, and as Jimmy Moore puts it, people need to take charge of their own health if they want to lose weight and be healthy.

OT for a moment -- Tee Pee Toes is a keeper, too!

Tooter · 01-06-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Larcana

I am working on a power point presentation to my Celiac support group..I'm a member and educational speaker. It covers the disease and treatment which includes the grief process. People grieve because they see the diet as giving up things they love to eat/drink. I didn't grieve because I was so sick and close to dying when I was put on the diet, that I was happy to find that I had so much to eat. I think a lot of people view lowcarb this way as well.
I have a problem with the idea of fasting because of my illness. I was so afraid to eat, because everything made me have diarrhea and cramps. My lowest weight was 98 pounds. I used to sit at the table and cry because I was so hungry and yet knew that something in food was making me sick. I just didn't know what it was. Everyone thought I was ED or crazy. I was so happy to be told to eat certain foods that I tossed my narcotics out and flushed them. Then I went through withdrawal....a picnic compared to starvation.
I read that Detox thread and knowing that she probably was still heavy, but egging those others on, made me sick to my stomach. I went into medicine to change the way doctors treat their patients and their family. I have been talked down to by many...mostly male docs. I promised myself that I would never treat anyone the way I was treated.
Lauren

I'd give my right arm to have a doctor like you. I had IBS and Yeast overgrowth. The "Doctors" told me I couldn't have the "yeast" problem. That I had to have Aids, Be a bad diabetic or have Cancer.

They didn't know what was causing all my problems, but it couldn't be that.
Also, the IBS? I found if I didn't eat, I didn't have pain.

So, that started me on my lowcarb journey. I had to find out things for myself and treat myself. The only things the doctors did was make it worse. I was sick and tired of being "sick and tired". I would go from being a little over weight to being really underweight.

Thank God, for low carb.

Larcana · 01-06-2008, 11:23 AM

Margi,
You're right it's an individual thing...what works for you, works for you. I was fooled by junk science about Atkins and believed the stuff about kidney damage, etc. But I went looking, thanks to Jimmy's site I found the real science and have an inch and a half binder of articles supporting lowcarb and ketogenic diets. That got me reading books and well here I am.
Lauren

lowcarbmargi · 01-06-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

I just looked at this fitday

Looks like someone doing the induction for the M&M diet

:h yst:

Holy crap, and she's still holding at a steady, svelt 118

lowcarbmargi · 01-06-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Larcana

Margi,
You're right it's an individual thing...what works for you, works for you. I was fooled by junk science about Atkins and believed the stuff about kidney damage, etc. But I went looking, thanks to Jimmy's site I found the real science and have an inch and a half binder of articles supporting lowcarb and ketogenic diets. That got me reading books and well here I am.
Lauren

I'm very glad you are here!

Yep, ITA about that individual thing. Find what works, be true to oneself.

Larcana · 01-06-2008, 11:27 AM

Tooter I know what you mean about being sick and tired. I was exhausted and working full time...sick every two hours, cried myself to sleep and wished I could die in my sleep.
Gad it was awful..anytime someone offers me a non-GF item I remember that feeling and I have no trouble turning it down. Lowcarb has given me back my energy levels..I feel like a teenager..(48 in three weeks) and I sleep way better.
I have seen some people complain of loss of energy, but that didn't happen to me.
I work 12-13 hour days and take care of my DH and family stuff. Happy Happy Happy.
Lauren

Larcana · 01-06-2008, 11:28 AM

I'm off for a run now, I'll be back to catch up again
Lauren

Magicsmom · 01-06-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

Not trying to be snarky here

but this is the third time you've asked that question.....

here and here are the other times

and it just seems odd that you would ask the question so many times---when you actually got an email from her

Now isn't THAT interesting? Hmmmmmmmmm.......... you'd think someone would have something better to do than come here at 5 a.m. posting a question like that.

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Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Oatmeal has always made me hungry too. I noticed this but didn't connect it to food allergies. I don't eat it often, but I will be more aware of what happens when I do eat it next time. I used to think that eating breakfast in general made me more hungry than when I skipped it, but then I noticed it had more to do with what I ate at breakfast.
Apples also make me hungry.

I LOVE oatmeal, but will not have it again. My doctor says it's one of the worst things we can eat. Apples, on the other hand, give me cravings and make me binge. A trigger food for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larcana

I read that Detox thread and knowing that she probably was still heavy, but egging those others on, made me sick to my stomach. I went into medicine to change the way doctors treat their patients and their family. I have been talked down to by many...mostly male docs. I promised myself that I would never treat anyone the way I was treated.
Lauren

The world needs more doctors like you!

WildAngel6 · 01-06-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

OT for a moment -- Tee Pee Toes is a keeper, too!

Margi, you come up with the funniest things!

From now on, whenever I read "TT" I will be thinking "Tee Pee Toes"!

Thank you for my morning giggle!

BamaGal · 01-06-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Larcana

Also, I am reading Gary Taubes book Good Calories, Bad Calories currently and rereading DANDR. I am constantly asked questions about weight loss and want to be the best informed I can be..that isn't possible with standard medical education. You have to seek it out.
Lauren

If you haven't read them---

check out Dr McCleary's Brain Trust Program and Dr Briffa's True You Diet

WildAngel6 · 01-06-2008, 11:41 AM

Recommended Sunday reading:

What's a gal to do?

Medusa: THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE FOLD...

Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

lowcarbmargi · 01-06-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Margi, you come up with the funniest things!

From now on, whenever I read "TT" I will be thinking "Tee Pee Toes"!

Thank you for my morning giggle!

I'm sorry hon mayberry fan thought that one up, along with camp-carb-awry... I agree, definitely funny!

MissMerize · 01-06-2008, 11:42 AM

My diet challenge thread has been moved, for anyone who may still want to drop a few before vd.

Valentine's "40"

daisyrat · 01-06-2008, 11:42 AM

Don't know if this was already found, but just in case -- Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

Barbara B · 01-06-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

If you haven't read them---

check out Dr McCleary's Brain Trust Program and Dr Briffa's True You Diet

The Brain Trust Program is on my wish list at Amazon. I have not heard of Dr. Briffa's book. I'm still reading Gary Taubes' book and also want to read Barry Groves' latest.

It's hard to keep up with it all.

Magicsmom · 01-06-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by daisyrat

Don't know if this was already found, but just in case -- Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

Unreal how many scams and angles she had been working on!

WildAngel6 · 01-06-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daisyrat

Don't know if this was already found, but just in case -- Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

Isn't it interesting how someone as shy as she claims to be, could go door to door selling Avon? and even recruit more folks to sell Avon?

and just for the record, the aol email address is no longer valid:

The following problems occurred while processing your request:

Heidi4Avon - This is not a known member.

Your mail has not been sent. Please correct the problems listed and try again.

Magicsmom · 01-06-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbara B

The Brain Trust Program is on my wish list at Amazon. I have not heard of Dr. Briffa's book. I'm still reading Gary Taubes' book and also want to read Barry Groves' latest.

It's hard to keep up with it all.

I just got Dr. Rob Thompson's "The Glycemic Load Diet", which seems to take the original Atkins one step further. Scientists have learned a lot about what makes us obese since Dr. Atkins wrote DADR '72.

lowcarbmargi · 01-06-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Recommended Sunday reading:

What's a gal to do?

Medusa: THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE FOLD...

Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

These are great links!

Thank you for sharing!

susique333 · 01-06-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by daisyrat

Don't know if this was already found, but just in case -- Ding Dong! Avon Calling!

She was a foster parent (and present parent to a zombie lover)....failed.

Avon beauty consultant..........................failed.

Weightloss advisor............................... failed.

Can't wait to see what is next.

susique333 · 01-06-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

I just looked at this fitday

Looks like someone doing the induction for the M&M diet

:h yst:

December 7th 07! I cannot believe she put that in there for ANY reason! LOL

Magicsmom · 01-06-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by susique333

December 7th 07! I cannot believe she put that in there for ANY reason! LOL

She often posted that she entered things on Fitday when people were inquiring about how many carbs/calories were in things. My suspicion is that she was posting about the EVIL of drinking. She often preached against it, despite her intimate relationship with Cap'n Morgan! Shows you how hypocritical she is. I think she's one of those "do as I say, not as I do" types! But I digress.......she used Fitday to figure out the carb/calorie levels, but never figured out that you can delete them after you get the info.

WildAngel6 · 01-06-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MissMerize

01-06-2008, 11:19 AM	#452
lowcarbmargi Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 218 Gallery: lowcarbmargi Stats: 230+/203/130 WOE: Mod. Ketogenic Start Date: 12/07	Lauren, thanks for sharing your story and a medical perspective in dieting. I agree, there's no quick way to find the best diet. It took me many years of floundered quite a bit before finding the woe that works best for me. When all the low carb stuff started coming into the supermarkets and restaurants I had been so jaded from regular diets I made the mistake of writing it off as a fad for the longest time. Now that I'm more experienced I'd never do that again, but I still find that I have to be very careful and examine the labels fully as the food manufacturers and restaurants are really just capitalizing on this. Laura (wildangel6) just posted a link to a great article about how would be customers of KK aren't really curious because they aren't willing to do the work to find out more about how to do the diet properly. It's a great point and I'm inclined to agree. There's no quick fix, and as Jimmy Moore puts it, people need to take charge of their own health if they want to lose weight and be healthy. OT for a moment -- Tee Pee Toes is a keeper, too! __________________ Me & My Big Mouth! Why Say NO to Kimkins

01-06-2008, 11:41 AM	#462
WildAngel6 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cali Posts: 1,203 Gallery: WildAngel6 WOE: Atkins	Recommended Sunday reading: What's a gal to do? Medusa: THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE FOLD... Grilled Cheese Sandwich with Pickles: Ding Dong! Avon Calling! Last edited by WildAngel6 : 01-06-2008 at 11:52 AM.

01-06-2008, 11:17 AM	#451
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,240 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	I just looked at this fitday Looks like someone doing the induction for the M&M diet :h yst:

01-06-2008, 11:23 AM	#454
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 148 Gallery: Larcana	Margi, You're right it's an individual thing...what works for you, works for you. I was fooled by junk science about Atkins and believed the stuff about kidney damage, etc. But I went looking, thanks to Jimmy's site I found the real science and have an inch and a half binder of articles supporting lowcarb and ketogenic diets. That got me reading books and well here I am. Lauren

01-06-2008, 11:27 AM	#457
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 148 Gallery: Larcana	Tooter I know what you mean about being sick and tired. I was exhausted and working full time...sick every two hours, cried myself to sleep and wished I could die in my sleep. Gad it was awful..anytime someone offers me a non-GF item I remember that feeling and I have no trouble turning it down. Lowcarb has given me back my energy levels..I feel like a teenager..(48 in three weeks) and I sleep way better. I have seen some people complain of loss of energy, but that didn't happen to me. I work 12-13 hour days and take care of my DH and family stuff. Happy Happy Happy. Lauren

01-06-2008, 11:28 AM	#458
Larcana Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 148 Gallery: Larcana	I'm off for a run now, I'll be back to catch up again Lauren

01-06-2008, 11:42 AM	#464
MissMerize MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North East Posts: 1,240 Gallery: MissMerize Stats: 170/162/142 WOE: Meat and Martini Diet, cycled with oopsie rolls Start Date: 3/18/08	My diet challenge thread has been moved, for anyone who may still want to drop a few before vd. Valentine's "40"

01-06-2008, 11:42 AM	#465
daisyrat MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,222 Gallery: daisyrat Stats: 162/125/132 WOE: Atkins ~ Maintenance Start Date: 21 April 03 ~ goal reached 21 July 03	Don't know if this was already found, but just in case -- Ding Dong! Avon Calling!