Why the fascination with Kimmer? #13

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by gibster

Eeeewwww......they were just talking about using tapeworms for weightloss.

It's on right now.

Oh no please say it's not true!

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

Oh!!! I know what my next pet is gonna be! How easy is that? Why didn't I think of it

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I will write them as well. Did you send them any links to the story?

Yes, I sent them Becky's, Deni's and Christin's blogs, the KTLA sites, and several others who have been keeping current as well as Slamboard and Exposed. I still think 3fatchicks and About.com have some of the best writeups in addition to the blogs.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

this is my opinion---but from what I have seen of Amy's site---there are many still doing low cal, low fat, low carb of KK just not calling it KK---and those people at Camp Flippy are doing the same thing

shoot we even have some trying it here---others just try to steer them in the right direction.....

what is it with people---why can't they just learn the science of eating properly---all they will accomplish is wrecking their health for what....

all because they want to reach this epitome of health being thin---well thin does not equal health any more than fat equals unhealthy---nor does thin equal good and fat equals bad....

actually being over weight is HEALTHIER than being thin---it's called the obesity paradox

fat phobia is the reason our diet industry does a billion dollars a year

an average woman spends 310,000 dollars on weight loss products in her average life time for what---

to end up wrecking her health with all the yoyo-ing....

sorry---I'll get off my soap box now.......

great post! I'm glad I'm not the only one tired of seeing the diet industry and the food industry profiting from public misinformation and wrecking people's health.

[LESSOFME]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Someone started a blog about Kimmer being a fraud. That person's online name was Just Ducky. Then Kimmer mentioned on her website she was suspicious of anyone with a duck avatar and even BANNED people on her site who picked a STOCK DUCK AVATAR. After that, a lot of people picked duck avatars just to tweak Kimmer.

Thanks for the explanation!

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

I am actually not bothered by people who have lost weight giving out diet advice even if they aren't doctors or other health professionals (mainly because the pros have been giving out such crappy advice for the last 20 years listening to them helped make me fat in the first place!).

The problem with Tippy is she is constantly changing her story about how she lost the weight. She never followed Kimkins because If you tweak it, it ain't Kimkins!. There is also a nice long documented record of her switching from plan to plan to plan. There is no way to objectively tell HOW she lost her weight, though it appears most of it was due to Atkins. What advice is she going to honestly give? "Just keep chaning your mind every few seconds. That causes your brain to burn extra calories!"

Kimmer gave diet advice she never even followed. While she pigged out on sugar cookies, she told other people dangerous things just to mess with them.

In both cases, the problem isn't non-pro's giving out diet advice, the problem is they are lying liars that lie.

If you do give out diet advice and are not a pro, just be upfront about it. Tell people that what works for you might not work well for others. Tell people if you took risks and what they were. If you had side effects, be honest about it. Go ahead and sell your plan. I have no problem with people making money.

I do have a problem with lying liars that lie though

ITA, especially about the part of so-called "experts" who have been giving out bad advice for years.

I also agree that people who are nonpros do have the right to set up information that has worked for them, pay or for free. So long as the advice isn't unwanted or presumptively dictates to others that "their way is the only way" to health and happiness. Heck, it appears that even doctors debate the benefits of certain diets. And if the doctors don't know for sure, then a nonpro should definitely not assume that they are any closer to finding the "diet to end all diets." These are just my personal feelings, I admit, I've got issues!

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by SMP

In fact, Cheryl, at first she did give out free memberships, due to end Jan 1/2008 when paying members were admitted. Then the date changed rapidly, to the next day or two. But contrary to what we think here, SWSNBN doesn't have the final say - Brian and Heather do. SWSNBN is their success story and figurehead (and resident blabbermouth.) Just thought I'd point this out in the interests of fairness.

Thanks for bringing this up, it does shed some light about the charging issue. Although, I still wonder why Pokey didn't set up a free BBS, instead she partnered up with profit-minded people.

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Thanks for bringing this up, it does shed some light about the charging issue. Although, I still wonder why Pokey didn't set up a free BBS, instead she partnered up with profit-minded people.

<<<<<<-----thought I would get meaner looking---is it me???

Brian and Heather started the site and bought the domain name---but TT has it in HER name now---so the Domain belongs to TT as does the site---Brian is doing the tech stuff---and not very well mind you--the place is as cheesy as it comes....


I've been camping all my life--but that place reminds me of a girl scout camp--with all the funky names and stuff----

[SMP]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Thanks for bringing this up, it does shed some light about the charging issue. Although, I still wonder why Pokey didn't set up a free BBS, instead she partnered up with profit-minded people.

Simple. SWSNBN hasn't a clue how to set up and maintain a BBS. Brian and Heather apparently do, set one up, and invited SWSNBN to come aboard and run it. As we've already seen, it was Brian who tendered the invite to Jimmy in the first place. Apparently that couple will take an active part in making sure Camp C. gets off the ground, w/o the permission of anybody else. In fact, everyone who had any type of admin job at KK found out firsthand that there is Avarice in Avoirdupois, Cash in Calorie Slashing, Francs in Fat.
But it's what they do with that knowledge.

[Madam De Leon]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

this is my opinion---but from what I have seen of Amy's site---there are many still doing low cal, low fat, low carb of KK just not calling it KK---and those people at Camp Flippy are doing the same thing

shoot we even have some trying it here---others just try to steer them in the right direction.....

what is it with people---why can't they just learn the science of eating properly---all they will accomplish is wrecking their health for what....

all because they want to reach this epitome of health being thin---well thin does not equal health any more than fat equals unhealthy---nor does thin equal good and fat equals bad....

actually being over weight is HEALTHIER than being thin---it's called the obesity paradox

fat phobia is the reason our diet industry does a billion dollars a year

an average woman spends 310,000 dollars on weight loss products in her average life time for what---

to end up wrecking her health with all the yoyo-ing....

sorry---I'll get off my soap box now.......

I"m glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.

Actually, I should admit that I've never signed up for her site, not even just to lurk around on her forums a bit - I wasn't planning on introducing myself and participating, so I didn't feel quite right about signing up just to lurk.

Once I perused the sample menus and recipes, I decided that this simply wasn't for me - the calories and fats were just far too low. I have no idea if there are more recipes or menus available after you sign up, so I"m just going by the ones linked off the main page. At any rate, I couldn't help but notice that it would be very difficult to go over 800 calories/day by eating a single serving of most of those recipes, 3 meals a day.

For instance, I was appalled to see one "maintenance breakfast" listed that had less than 70 calories!


The highest calorie recipe I saw under the lunch/dinner section was under 350 calories - most of the lunch/dinner recipes weigh in at well under 200 calories per serving, due to the use of low fat or fat free products, Pam, egg beaters, etc.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

<<<<<<-----thought I would get meaner looking---is it me???

Very cool - It definitely plays up your tougher side (I'd never think you are mean!)

Brian and Heather started the site and bought the domain name---but TT has it in HER name now---so the Domain belongs to TT as does the site---Brian is doing the tech stuff---and not very well mind you--the place is as cheesy as it comes....

I've been camping all my life--but that place reminds me of a girl scout camp--with all the funky names and stuff----

I'm not sure if she's trying to be cute or cozy, but if I joined a board where I felt 12 again, I'd feel condescended to. If I paid twenty dollars of my hard earned money for a slice of cheese and a girl scout smile, I would also feel ripped off!

[CarolynF]

Christin update:

It seems that she had a very long of nausea, dry heaves and alot of pain. There is still some swelling in the brain, which they said is normal for this type of injury.

Then her mom wrote:

We are now in a room and she is stable. She just needs a little more healing.

Keep praying, ladies and gents.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Very cool - It definitely plays up your tougher side (I'd never think you are mean!)



I'm not sure if she's trying to be cute or cozy, but if I joined a board where I felt 12 again, I'd feel condescended to. If I paid twenty dollars of my hard earned money for a slice of cheese and a girl scout smile, I would also feel ripped off!

This place sounds like a bad diet met up with a role playing forum and decided to pitch a tent or two.

I have no desire to relieve the whole girl scout camp thing, thank you very much. It's all way too cutesy for me, with Pokey and Gumby and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and all that. I prefer my low carb support served straightforward, thank you kindly. Sugar coating has too many carbs. Yuck!

And pay money to do so on top of that? No thank you!

I'm sure if you really want the role playing aspect of things, you could start a costume dress up thread somewhere here on LCF, or go ask Jimmy or Amy if you could play over there in costume for FREE.

[Kisal]

Will continue to pray for you, Christin, until you are well and able to be at home with your family.

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by SMP

Simple. SWSNBN hasn't a clue how to set up and maintain a BBS. Brian and Heather apparently do, set one up, and invited SWSNBN to come aboard and run it. As we've already seen, it was Brian who tendered the invite to Jimmy in the first place. Apparently that couple will take an active part in making sure Camp C. gets off the ground, w/o the permission of anybody else. In fact, everyone who had any type of admin job at KK found out firsthand that there is Avarice in Avoirdupois, Cash in Calorie Slashing, Francs in Fat.
But it's what they do with that knowledge.

I completely understanding their need to work, pay bills and all - from my end it appears that Brian and Heather have pretty much nothing to do with the controversy around SWSNBN save that they have a business arrangement with her.

My issue is the implication that SWSNBN puts forth that she started the site out of the pure intentioned goodness of her heart, to "provide" a home for all the wandering, lost refugees of KK and other message boards where they are supposedly "not wanted." Ok, I get that she doesn't have technical know-how but I searched Yahoo and the first site for free forums didn't require tech knowledge at all. If there are sites like this out there, then logically there is no need for hired techies and paying for expensive servers or domain stuff and whatnot. Only a little effort and time, and she must have had both of those together sometime to get even campcarbawry started. If you want to get even simpler, there's places like yahoo groups where networking is possible even if you have only rudimentary computer skills (point, click, peck in the name, reason for the group, ect).

Color me confused but I really don't see how she had no other choice but to create a business venture out of it.

SMP, 2big4mysize, I really do appreciate your input on this! I apologize in advance if I've been abrasive about this. It's not my intention. You both have been great about bringing up certain points out of fairness. Thank you!

[lowcarbmargi]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Christin update:

It seems that she had a very long of nausea, dry heaves and alot of pain. There is still some swelling in the brain, which they said is normal for this type of injury.

Then her mom wrote:

We are now in a room and she is stable. She just needs a little more healing.

Keep praying, ladies and gents.

Thank you for updating us. I know she is in a lot of pain but I'm glad it's "normal" as opposed to not... still thinking of her and Bill!

[lowcarbmargi]

Laura... the silliest idea dawned on me. We could do the village people here at LCF. BamaGal can be the leather person, someone with a duck badge can be the cop, there are southerners here who could be the cowboy, and all we need are volunteers for the construction guy, military man and the Amerindian.

[susique333]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Christin update:

It seems that she had a very long of nausea, dry heaves and alot of pain. There is still some swelling in the brain, which they said is normal for this type of injury.

Then her mom wrote:

We are now in a room and she is stable. She just needs a little more healing.

Keep praying, ladies and gents.

Dr.s are pushed by insurance companies to discharge too early, MHO!! My baby sister hit her head in a car accident, was watched a day and sent home even tho she felt "off". Only complaint was she had a chronic runny nose that just wouldnt quit. Went back to the Dr. for her 1 week check up and mentioned the runny nose. Long story short, it was cereral fluid...leaking from a crack in the base of her skull, so back into the hospital she went on massive antibiotics.

Im praying for Christin and her family. I know her kids and hubby are worried.

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Laura... the silliest idea dawned on me. We could do the village people here at LCF. BamaGal can be the leather person, someone with a duck badge can be the cop, there are southerners here who could be the cowboy, and all we need are volunteers for the construction guy, military man and the Amerindian.

Oh, that's too funny, Margi! And just think, we have Pokey to thank (Hiya TT! Thanks) for the inspiration. Isn't that just the silliest thing?

[WildAngel6]

Medusa: DRUMROLL, PLEASE !!! THE WINNER IS...

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

Laura... the silliest idea dawned on me. We could do the village people here at LCF. BamaGal can be the leather person, someone with a duck badge can be the cop, there are southerners here who could be the cowboy, and all we need are volunteers for the construction guy, military man and the Amerindian.

LMAO...

[gibster]

Originally Posted by lowcarbmargi

We should keep that - "camp carb-awry"

I IT!

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6