Why the fascination with Kimmer? #12

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by JustKim

I am no where near caught up - but I fully believe TT and Kimmer are still linked. Just a gut feeling - but my gut feeling nonetheless.

Thought I'd take a peek at Tippy's blog and see if she was denying these mad rumors that she is sleeping with her perceived enemy ... and low and behold, the blog is empty. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

Maybe I just am not looking in the right place? Tippy Toes Blog

If someone knows where there is another, please share ...

[amadeus4313]

I noticed the same thing. She was here on December 22.

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by SMP

Be aware that most people now check out most info via the Internet, and it will just be jumping any time now with diet ads. Maybe the search engines should be monitored on a daily basis for Kimkins ads and results reported. (For those that don't have a life.)

SMP--you are definitely right about diet ads popping up--you would be surprised at where we find references to the Kimkins Diet

For those who have the time---Laura finds obscure places, splogs with positive Kimkins Reviews

If you will check out the link in my sig line you will find a list I post each day of these links. We have been successful getting many removed---so the effort is worth it.

Originally Posted by JustKim

I am no where near caught up - but I fully believe TT and Kimmer are still linked. Just a gut feeling - but my gut feeling nonetheless.

and a very good gut feeling it is too

[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

Thought I'd take a peek at Tippy's blog and see if she was denying these mad rumors that she is sleeping with her perceived enemy ... and low and behold, the blog is empty. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

Maybe I just am not looking in the right place? Tippy Toes Blog

If someone knows where there is another, please share ...

that's the one---she made it go poof....good thing we anticipated just that happening.....

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by BamaGal

that's the one---she made it go poof....good thing we anticipated just that happening.....

I figured, cause ya'll are so smart

What I was trying to figure out was if Tippy had done anything to counteract Fawn's blog, which very clearly shows they are all having a love fest ... just looking for a denial ... not seeming to find one, though ...

[CarolynF]

Hi..

Tippy had to sign some papers with John T. for immunity NOT to be named on the lawsuit with Heidi. WHO wouldn't do that? NO ONE in their right mind would take a "hit" for Kimmer and put their money/reputation on the line for her. I believe Tippy did that and I DO believe that she doesn't want anything to do with Kimmer. Some peeps at KKins have said that Tippy's site is anti-KK and they don't want to go there anymore. I don't go to the Camp, so I don't know about that.

Why would Kimmer want ANYTHING to do with Tippy after Tippy showed John emails, etc. that would further incriminate Kimmer? Tippy has learned alot more about Kimmer (according to her vanished blog) and it was not pretty (as we all imagine it wouldn't be).

As far as Fawn goes..I frankly don't think she has any influence with many peeps anywhere. She is just Fawn.

I wonder if the basic KKins plan has been changed since Heidi met with the attorney? This would be interesting to know if she has added any calories/fat. Otherwise, she is
still "doing business as usual" and encouraging people to starve themselves.

[MJR]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

I figured, cause ya'll are so smart

What I was trying to figure out was if Tippy had done anything to counteract Fawn's blog, which very clearly shows they are all having a love fest ... just looking for a denial ... not seeming to find one, though ...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, it looks like Fawn has scrubbed her blog too. Much of the original cr@p is missing now. But, she has left the kimmer and tippy comments up.

Peace on the Internet by Fawn

[emmyjane]

Originally Posted by Smythe

Hi Ducks-
I have been a staunch supporter of the work you guys have done and have occasionaly posted so to these threads. As an outside observer with absolutely not adgenda what so ever, I want to make a comment. First let me say I have hesitated to say anything...that alone speaks volumes.
You guys...this has taken a terrible turn. I'm not sure some of you can see it as clearly as those of us without anger that clouds our vision can. I know you're angry, but the anger has turned into "ugly" in a few cases and the inability to see the ugliness in many cases. Don't lose your way. You have accomplished tremendous things here. What worries me most is the attempt to justify the behavior in question...whatever that behavior happens to be. It's not the questions you ask as much as the manner with which you ask them. It's not the answers you give as much as the manner in which they are given. Many of you are seeing an emeny around every corner and that is not always the case. This is just my opinion and again I am a supporter of your work here. I come here never being hurt by kimmer, TT or anyone else in this mess for that matter. My perspective is very different because I have not suffered what many of you have. Unfortunately what I see happening here is those emotions getting in the way of good work, good judgement and good people.
Happy New Year to all.

My thoughts also. I have no agenda except to see Kimmer's site shut down, but still agree with some (not all, and definitely not her tone) of what Vandy J expressed. I don't think that these thoughts can be simply dismissed based on when a person enters this thread, or when they come back, or how prolific a poster they are (was I called a troll too?)

Things hopefully still are getting done slowly here and behind the scenes... but IMHO the lawsuit is THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME IN TOWN... and anything and everything should be done to encourage people to join, and keep people in it.

If righting every wrong in the diet blogosphere, or reacting to every lapse of judgement of anyone and everyone (and I agree, it was unwise of Becky to post what she did, but she apologized), is the focus of this thread, then my bets are on Kimmer (unfortunately)...

People want to FEEL GOOD about what they are doing (stopping Kimmer's fraud, shutting down her dangerous diet site, etc.) NOT feel like they are part of... shall I say it... nope I won't. But maybe you know what I mean. Or maybe not.

I wish you all well, and please don't feel judged or belittled by my post. I know your intentions are good, and maybe I'm all wrong. I'd type more on that, by my fingers are killing me from unwinding all those wires from my kiddies xmas toys... (who are these sadistic toy packagers?)

Peace to all in this holiday season!

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by MJR

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, it looks like Fawn has scrubbed her blog too. Much of the original cr@p is missing now. But, she has left the kimmer and tippy comments up.

Peace on the Internet by Fawn

Well, it certainly has had a makeover ... fonts are changed, all the bolding and italics that added the syrupy sound has been changed. One comment, as far as I can tell, has been deleted. And yes, lots of her words have actually been poofed into oblivion. Lucky for her other's made sure to capture it in its original, prinstine condition. These guys put the history revisionists to shame!

Does make it seem like you are watching a movie script being hashed out in rewrite, doesn't it?

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Why would Kimmer want ANYTHING to do with Tippy after Tippy showed John emails, etc. that would further incriminate Kimmer? Tippy has learned alot more about Kimmer (according to her vanished blog) and it was not pretty (as we all imagine it wouldn't be).

Because if she can rope TT back in, Heidi will have eliminated TT's immunity from the civil suit. Remember Heidi is not a nice lady, and that would be some sweet revenge on her former minion.

Originally Posted by MJR

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, it looks like Fawn has scrubbed her blog too. Much of the original cr@p is missing now. But, she has left the kimmer and tippy comments up.

Peace on the Internet by Fawn

Did you see the latest? TT or KK how do I choose?

I dunno....how about going to a FREE site?? Amy's, Jimmy's, here, or ALC?

[CarolynF]

Things hopefully still are getting done slowly here and behind the scenes... but IMHO the lawsuit is THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME IN TOWN... and anything and everything should be done to encourage people to join, and keep people in it.


I totally agree...Each one of us who is serious about this should say, "What can I do to
educate peeps about the dangers of KKins?"

The legal wheels are turning as they will..So, let's all support it!!!

[CarolynF]

Chelveston: I agree Kimmer may try to "make nice" with TT to do just that. However, TT would have to "give up" her immunity to get back with Kimmer. I'm sure (knowing what she knows now) would never do it. Kimmer is heading "down the river" (whatever that legally would mean), and TT would NEVER jump on board the SS Kimkins again.

[wifezilla]

Hummmm.....

If you do a google search for Kimkins, you see the following text on the right...

"Sponsored Links
Xtreme "No Exercise Diet
How did Christin lose 100 pounds?
Amazing celebrity diet secret!
www.kimkins.com"

She is STILL using Christin's name to promote her diet. Now didn't Christin tell her to stop? Maybe Heidi owes her even MORE money

And who are these celebrities again??? LOL

[CarolynF]

Good grief, Zilla..I can't believe that that is still up there..Christin would be ripped.

[wifezilla]

No kidding! Can someone take a screen capture in case someone might need that? (I am on my hubby's computer and don't know how to do it on Windows). I did make a print out...JIC.

[Chelveston]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Chelveston: I agree Kimmer may try to "make nice" with TT to do just that. However, TT would have to "give up" her immunity to get back with Kimmer. I'm sure (knowing what she knows now) would never do it. Kimmer is heading "down the river" (whatever that legally would mean), and TT would NEVER jump on board the SS Kimkins again.

Exactly.

I'm thinking that Heidi may try to make it look like TT has gone back to Heidi's camp, though. Heidi needs to discredit TT.

[wifezilla]

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"Tippy Toes Blog

Monday, December 24, 2007
Jumping to Conclusions About Kimmer

Because Kimmer sent me a kind message through Fawn's blog does not mean I am the front for her new site. While it is true that I have been upset after being lied to on a number of occasions, Kimmer has never done to me what LCF has. I do not hate her even if I do not agree with many things. I have severed all ties with Kimmer and have blocked any emails she may have tried to send. I have been grated immunity from the lawsuit in exchange for my cooperation with Teidt. Teidt and I have both signed those documents. I have turned over all emails and the like as I was asked to do. I have learned new information in the process and some was shocking. However, I do not wish Kimmer harm as so many do. I wish no one harm. If Kimkins does survive I hope that Kimmer has learned from her mistakes and that she will make every effort to see that her members stay safe. Her members are more important than any of the business tactics she has used. If her site does get shut down (and I am not aware of any new developments at this time) we will not be affiliated. If her site stays up we are still not affiliated. Period.

Posted by Tippy Toes Blog at 12:03 PM"

Here are TT's own words about this topic...from the google cache.

Kimmer has never done to me what LCF has

Interesting. She holds Kimmer in higher regard than LCF. I seriously wonder what you have to do to be worse than Kimmer in her book.

[CarolynF]

If Tippy didn't wish Kimmer any harm, then WHY did she turn over all the emails that were incriminating? I do think that Tippy DID harm Kimmer by strengthening the evidence against her. It's a natural occurrence. I just want justice for all the fraud that Kimmer has committed.

Oh, I am SURE that Kimmer "will get back" at Tippy somehow, someway, someday..Don't you all think?

[SMP]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Interesting. She holds Kimmer in higher regard than LCF. I seriously wonder what you have to do to be worse than Kimmer in her book.

Cut into her cash income. That apparently was the main reason for her leaving KK, but she wouldn't have left there IF those nasty <unprintable word> ducks at LCF had minded their own business and left poor sweet Kimmer alone! Then she (the ignored one) would still be raking in 100's a month and being a Somebody. She wouldn't even have had to rouse Heidi's ire by making those salvation changes publicly.

[CarolynF]

I think Tippy left the Kimpire because she knew that she would be a codefendant in the lawsuit if she continued to be associated with Heidi. Sure, it might have been a money thing, but a lawsuit is alot more expensive than losing $100 a month. Heidi wasn't going to pay for Tippy's lawyer or SL's lawyer fees, so Tippy got out to save herself, I'm convinced of it.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

This is G o o g l e's cache of http://tippytoes--thestory.blogspot....ut-kimmer.html as retrieved on Dec 24, 2007 20:23:33 GMT.
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"Tippy Toes Blog

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Jumping to Conclusions About Kimmer

Because Kimmer sent me a kind message through Fawn's blog does not mean I am the front for her new site. While it is true that I have been upset after being lied to on a number of occasions, Kimmer has never done to me what LCF has. I do not hate her even if I do not agree with many things. I have severed all ties with Kimmer and have blocked any emails she may have tried to send. I have been grated immunity from the lawsuit in exchange for my cooperation with Teidt. Teidt and I have both signed those documents. I have turned over all emails and the like as I was asked to do. I have learned new information in the process and some was shocking. However, I do not wish Kimmer harm as so many do. I wish no one harm. If Kimkins does survive I hope that Kimmer has learned from her mistakes and that she will make every effort to see that her members stay safe. Her members are more important than any of the business tactics she has used. If her site does get shut down (and I am not aware of any new developments at this time) we will not be affiliated. If her site stays up we are still not affiliated. Period.

Posted by Tippy Toes Blog at 12:03 PM"

Here are TT's own words about this topic...from the google cache.


Interesting. She holds Kimmer in higher regard than LCF. I seriously wonder what you have to do to be worse than Kimmer in her book.

Thanks! I knew someone had it!

My burning questions: If Tippy is really wanting to establish that she has no connection with Kimmer, why the flash in the pan blog? Why not leave it up for all to find and see. Unless, of course, it was simply so she could have a copy to point to and say "See?".

There would be so much more credibility here if Fawn's and Tippy's blogs had been left intact for all seekers to find. Of course, that wouldn't help Heidi much, would it? Heidi wants us all to think they are on the same side ... yet, Heidi wouldn't be able to take down Tippy's blog, now, would she?

Hmmm.

And why have Fawn rewrite (or rewrite it for her - it is really hard to decide if one person is doing all the writing there) her site? Of course, Heidi is likely pulling those strings.

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

If Tippy didn't wish Kimmer any harm, then WHY did she turn over all the emails that were incriminating? I do think that Tippy DID harm Kimmer by strengthening the evidence against her. It's a natural occurrence. I just want justice for all the fraud that Kimmer has committed.

Oh, I am SURE that Kimmer "will get back" at Tippy somehow, someway, someday..Don't you all think?

I don't know, it's amazing what people will compromise when "The Enemy of My Enemy is my friend".

I don't think it's personal for either of them. Just "Business". Doesn't matter if it's good business or not. After all, they both have alot in common. They can "Excuse" a few thing from each other.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

If Tippy didn't wish Kimmer any harm, then WHY did she turn over all the emails that were incriminating? I do think that Tippy DID harm Kimmer by strengthening the evidence against her. It's a natural occurrence. I just want justice for all the fraud that Kimmer has committed.

Oh, I am SURE that Kimmer "will get back" at Tippy somehow, someway, someday..Don't you all think?

Carolyn, I think events forced TT to do what she did, otherwise she'd have been sunk along with the Kimtanic. John offered her a seat in the lifeboat, and she took it. Possibly her and her hubby's business (rental units) may have been seriously impacted by a punitive monetary judgment if Heidi, Kimkins, AND TT , as defendants, lost. IOW, she stood to lose what she had, thanks to her knowing support for a fraud. She has repeatedly said she wishes Heidi no harm. Whether this will save her from Heidi's wrath, only time will tell. I think her deliberate association with Heidi was all the harm she needed, and Heidi's revenge could very well be snickering at the bind TT is in. She can't go forward, and she can't go backward - she's stuck!

Oh well, at least TT has Fawn.IES!!!!!!!