Why the fascination with Kimmer? #12

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by MomToEli

Is John telling you to try to get people here to stop following things ... like the MCD, or other things?

I don't know anything about the MCD or other things. I didn't even know it existed until I logged on and read about it here and i haven't mentioned it to John.

[RockyMtnAngelEyes]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I don't know how to multi-quote, but I will address a few things.

I have never said neener, neener, I know something that you don't know. Nor am I trying to bs anybody.

I was only on Kimkins for a day and a half before I left and was banned when I asked Heidi if the woman in the picture was her. I've been here fightin alongside most of you for the last 7 or so months.

Furthermore, I am advised on a daily basis by my attorney about what I can share and what I can not share. Much of what I am told or what is garnered I can not share due to attorney-client privilege. That isn't meant to be a neener-neener thing, its just the way it is and nothing I can do to change it.

I would rather be able to speak very plainly, but when John tells me that I can't, I can't.

I apologize if I included you in something that I shouldn't have.. So much has gone one, forgive me, I do forget..

My use of 'neener, neener' was not to be taken as those words being used.. But, the way it has felt to many of us.. Again, I apologize if that was unacceptable to use that 'term'...

Yes! I TOTALLY understand that there are many things that can't be shared.. Nor, would I want them shared! Fastest way to cause a screeching hault to something as important as this! I have never asked anyone to share confidential information, and I won't...

[RockyMtnAngelEyes]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Furthermore, I think Heidi has shown all of us that she has no intention of stopping unless the law steps in and stops her, which is why I initiated the lawsuit in the first place. You can drag her name through the mud and post until your fingers fall off and she will continue to do what she's been doing this entire time. She doesn't care what we think of her or if anybody thinks she's a scam as long as there are people willing to pay for her service and despite the fact that we have announced to all and sundry that Kimkins is, at every point, an unhealthy scam, people continue to sign up because their hope of losing weight far outweighs anything we have to say...and that will continue until she's shut down.

AGREED! Which is why I added my plea to those who have dropped out, to get their 'butts' back IN the lawsuit...

She has to be stopped, or she will continue to scam and hurt people..

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Furthermore, I think Heidi has shown all of us that she has no intention of stopping unless the law steps in and stops her, which is why I initiated the lawsuit in the first place. You can drag her name through the mud and post until your fingers fall off and she will continue to do what she's been doing this entire time. She doesn't care what we think of her or if anybody thinks she's a scam as long as there are people willing to pay for her service and despite the fact that we have announced to all and sundry that Kimkins is, at every point, an unhealthy scam, people continue to sign up because their hope of losing weight far outweighs anything we have to say...and that will continue until she's shut down.

Exactly..and it's all about the LAWSUIT!!

[wifezilla]

Question....

Can "friend of the court" letters be sent to the judge?

[cleochatra]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Furthermore, I think Heidi has shown all of us that she has no intention of stopping unless the law steps in and stops her, which is why I initiated the lawsuit in the first place. You can drag her name through the mud and post until your fingers fall off and she will continue to do what she's been doing this entire time. She doesn't care what we think of her or if anybody thinks she's a scam as long as there are people willing to pay for her service and despite the fact that we have announced to all and sundry that Kimkins is, at every point, an unhealthy scam, people continue to sign up because their hope of losing weight far outweighs anything we have to say...and that will continue until she's shut down.

Agreed! And is why it is essential that this thread continues and the word keeps going out. A lot of people have been enabled through this thread to take independent action to help bring authorities into this.

This thread has helped locate the red dress pictures, spawned Kimkins blogs and information to help others who have both been victimized and to not be victimized.

I really believe that had this thread stopped with the first fascination thread, much would have not been accomplished. It's been a blessing to so many who continue to find this thread in Kimkins searches on Yahoo and google.

People can be hating this board all they want to, but they can't deny what has happened because these threads have lived on. That Kimkins petition is still garnering signatures, even today thanks to an LCF member. And then there's that lawsuit that cool lady Jeanessa fought for.

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Furthermore, I think Heidi has shown all of us that she has no intention of stopping unless the law steps in and stops her, which is why I initiated the lawsuit in the first place. You can drag her name through the mud and post until your fingers fall off and she will continue to do what she's been doing this entire time. She doesn't care what we think of her or if anybody thinks she's a scam as long as there are people willing to pay for her service and despite the fact that we have announced to all and sundry that Kimkins is, at every point, an unhealthy scam, people continue to sign up because their hope of losing weight far outweighs anything we have to say...and that will continue until she's shut down.

The more things that are revealed about Heidi, the more fodder there is for more drastic legal action. Honestly, a civil suit may part that fool and her money, but she should be locked away where Bubba's big sister can have her way with her. That is when she will not be able to hurt others. At least not the general population.

[cleochatra]

Amen, Momto Eli. As an example, those red dress pictures not only are helping the lawsuit, they've been sent to the postmaster general, the internet fraud division, the California attorney general, the FTC, and to other agencies and consumer watch dog groups.

Those came from this site and these threads, and because of the dedication of many to find justice.

I dare say that this effort is both monumental in its scope and ability to get people involved for the greater good and a precedent.

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Nady

Something I never forget~ When you point your finger, there are three of them pointing back at you.

If she didn't want people to question her motives, she might have been wiser to keep her thoughts to herself. In the end, we saw a side of Becky we didn't know existed, and it was all for nothing~ LCF had nothing to do with MCD being offline.
Now, people will be on guard~ wonder about her agenda. Maybe she was tired of pretending (if she was pretending)
~~~N

That was my concern and point in my previous posts as well.

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Since you have spoken very plainly to me, I will speak very plainly to you. Most of this, I'm not even supposed to say, but I am so very tired and just about fed up with everything.

The lawsuit isn't done. We need more class reps in order to be certified in the end or this whole thing was for nothing. I am losing class reps as we speak just because of the things that you and others are questioning here. There are people who live and die by the opinions expressed in this board. Those people happen to be part of the lawsuit. When they think that the "principals" of the lawsuit have a hidden agenda, they no longer want to participate...and all the work I've done on the lawsuit is a moot point.

While Heidi's assets are frosen, they can easily be unfrozen in the event that the lawsuit is not certified or we lose. So, you'll find some of the lawsuit reps coming in here trying to smooth things over so that we can continue to work together in order to stop Kimkins.

At this point, though, I'm wondering if its going to work at all. Because it's beginning to look like it won't and I am powerless to stop it. So, I am bow to the wisdom of the group and may the chips fall were they fall.

Jeanessa I am sorry that others would not be a part of the lawsuit based on others agenda but based solely on their own principles of wanting Kimkins.com stopped.
This is not directed at you at all Jeanessa because my faith in you or your intentions have never been shaken. But I have to ask or ask you to consider the following.

Since you were aware that the opinions here can effect those who join the lawsuit, would Becky not have been aware as well? As I said in earlier posts, her comments were concerning and upsetting to me *not* because she didn't agree with everything done here on LCF fascination thread, but the fact that she chose to voice it at a time that would seemingly have an effect on the lawsuit.
Do you understand why that was upsetting to many of us for that reason as well?
It just flies in the face of reason or logic that a principal member of the lawsuit, like Becky, would make comments knowing they will affect a large group of people on LCF and as you have just indicated can in turn effect the lawsuit negatively. But yet- us reacting to her words and doubting her agenda- or basically our "opinions" here are thought to be what caused the questioning done by others now. I think Becky caused the questioning of the agenda when she hit "submit post".

At this point what can be done to help or change things?

[MomToEli]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I don't know anything about the MCD or other things. I didn't even know it existed until I logged on and read about it here and i haven't mentioned it to John.

Then you know that's one of the things that Becky went off on. And the reaction to that and other things is exactly what caused people to go digging and why there are speculations about the part she is/has played in all of this in the first place.

It really isn't fair to hold people here responsible for others choosing to pull of out the lawsuit. The questions concerning motives weren't hatched out of thin air. I know I personally feel no responsibility for what others do. I've spent enough of my life beating myself up for things that aren't mine to own in the first place

It is most unfortunate that you have been caught in the middle of all of this. Well, perhaps that is to be expected considering your role in everything. It would be rather difficult NOT to be in the middle.

Thanks for answering my questions.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by sissypoo

I'm just confused now as to who the bad guys are.

Welcome to the club on that one!

Originally Posted by becksterinindy

Dang Julia .... quick.... call him.... Club crackers are soooo much better

Rut roh!!! I have Club Crackers!

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

In my opinion:

If ANYTHING is being said in these forums, here or elsewhere, in blogs, wherever...is causing class reps to rethink their involvement in the suit and thereby jeopardize it's success, then STOP, PEOPLE and THINK!

What an ironic and tragic thing that would be. What a waste of what this was all about, the work that has gone on.

To anyone who is thinking of pulling out based on things you have seen, and read on these threads or other places, you need to stop and think too.

You need to talk to those who know what's going on and not let your doubts derail this entire juggernaut.

Somebody is trying to tow the freakin' iceberg away from the bow of the KimTanic! Is that what we want?? Wake up folks, before all is lost.

Ya know, if someone comes here or is elsewhere venting, even if it's a principle in the lawsuit, let's not go off on a tangent about it. To focus too much on the human frailties to the point where it puts the lawsuit in jeopardy is throwing out the baby with the bath water. I don't agree with everyone in the lawsuit, but I'm in it to see Kimmer brought to justice. Let's keep our eye on that, please!

Originally Posted by mama MIA

tell him to get walnuts too! crush and sprinkle on top while still hot.

Oh this gets more evil every time I look!

Originally Posted by CarolynF

I hate to see anyone pull out of the lawsuit..for any reason. This is where we have our strength, through the legal system. The law and the FTC are the most effective ways to deal with her. Maybe it's the x-KKites who don't post here who are pulling out? Ya think?

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Exactly..and it's all about the LAWSUIT!!

[Sherrie_lc]

Originally Posted by oatmealyumyum

Larcana PM just yet.
It wasn't long enugh to go that deep and go to the hospital thank goodness and thanjk you for enlightening me.
I know doctors but there education LOL just doesn't rub off on me.
I am not an expert and I am always willing to lean. I do want to be a trainer some day but a trainer will never know as much as a doctor or Nurse practitioner.
Yes I do feel Singing lass is way addicted to Ketosis a lot of the ex kimmer members said they experience the same.

They aren't addicted to ketosis, they are probably developing an eating disorder from eating so little.

[WildAngel6]

Lawsuit Filed Over "Kimkins" Diet - Lawsuit [Breaking News USA]

We need to keep spreading the word.

Want to see Heidi come to justice? Join the lawsuit!

We Need You!

[WildAngel6]

Quote:
Originally Posted by oatmealyumyum
Larcana PM just yet.
It wasn't long enugh to go that deep and go to the hospital thank goodness and thanjk you for enlightening me.
I know doctors but there education LOL just doesn't rub off on me.
I am not an expert and I am always willing to lean. I do want to be a trainer some day but a trainer will never know as much as a doctor or Nurse practitioner.
Yes I do feel Singing lass is way addicted to Ketosis a lot of the ex kimmer members said they experience the same.

Originally Posted by Sherrie_lc

They aren't addicted to ketosis, they are probably developing an eating disorder from eating so little.

Starving is like ecstasy use for anorexia sufferers - health - 02 October 2007 - New Scientist

[Locarb4me]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locarb4me
In my opinion:

If ANYTHING is being said in these forums, here or elsewhere, in blogs, wherever...is causing class reps to rethink their involvement in the suit and thereby jeopardize it's success, then STOP, PEOPLE and THINK!

What an ironic and tragic thing that would be. What a waste of what this was all about, the work that has gone on.

To anyone who is thinking of pulling out based on things you have seen, and read on these threads or other places, you need to stop and think too.

You need to talk to those who know what's going on and not let your doubts derail this entire juggernaut.

Somebody is trying to tow the freakin' iceberg away from the bow of the KimTanic! Is that what we want?? Wake up folks, before all is lost.

Ya know, if someone comes here or is elsewhere venting, even if it's a principle in the lawsuit, let's not go off on a tangent about it. To focus too much on the human frailties to the point where it puts the lawsuit in jeopardy is throwing out the baby with the bath water. I don't agree with everyone in the lawsuit, but I'm in it to see Kimmer brought to justice. Let's keep our eye on that, please!

I'm trying to figure out if you're agreeing with me or....?

[MissMerize]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Question....

Can "friend of the court" letters be sent to the judge?

You bring up a good point here, a concerned citizens letter or something to that effect.

Perhaps John T. knows of some additional petition or something that can be used - but there is an online petition, and isn't that worth something? I know there are at least 550 sign ups on that (I was # 550)

[JustKim]

Okay, how can we go about and get more word out to people to join the lawsuit? It would seem the people we really need to start targeting are the the NON-online people.

I was thinking about radio PSAs? Do you think something like that could be of benefit? I would think it could even be free. There's over a million people here in Cincinnati...and even if a PSA only got through to 10 people - it would be worth it wouldn't it?

Cincinnati is only one city. If we could do it 10-20 metropolitan areas across the country - heck that increase our numbers too signifcantly I would think.

[Nady]

And what if the lawsuit doesn't fly? Does that mean that Heidi wins?? That she shouldn't be stopped? She is making money by selling eating disorders. Please don't forget that~ it's not just about her taking people's money~ it's about how she is harming the health of naive people (like teenagers).

Those who are undecided about joining the lawsuit might want to think about how they'd feel if their sister/daughter/niece/friend got sucked into this mess~ about watching them turn into another Isabelle Caro
~~~N

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

I'm trying to figure out if you're agreeing with me or....?

I absolutely agree with you! I guess I was just saying it in a different way.

[golite]

Golite said: I have a pain right here, see? Can you tell me what that is?.................

Originally Posted by Larcana

Is it in your stomach from laughing?
Lauren

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Okay, I'm not a doctor, but I play one on the internet so I feel perfectly qualified to tell you that it all depends on where the pain is located on your body.

If it's in your head - like this, it's probably Tippyitis which is caused by reading too much bad grammar and spelling.

If it's in your a$$, then it's probably Kimmeritis which is caused from toxic exposure to lieing.

Larcana, would you care to consult? If so, then we can each charge Golite $19.99 for our medical expertise. (Hey, since you're a real doctor, you might could charge $59.99, just don't make it for a lifetime of care, 'k?

O.k, now I really Do have a pain in my side!

[MissMerize]

And does everyone here know how the webring works? Go on one of the sites, Ie: affiliatescams and find the webring icon. It looks like a media player with a forward button and back button.

Mine is located on the bottom left of the page.

Anyway, you will find the buttons on every page that is in the ring. You can easily forward/reverse through blogs, and it makes it easy to check for updates and leave comments.

Comments and activity on these blogs are import