Why the fascination with Kimmer? #12 - Page 13

rightnow · 12-21-2007, 04:33 PM

I sincerely apologize for being out of the loop so much that I'm not even familiar with the names anymore (despite reading many pages). Can someone link me to the 'yucky' materials?

Tooter · 12-21-2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rightnow

I sincerely apologize for being out of the loop so much that I'm not even familiar with the names anymore (despite reading many pages). Can someone link me to the 'yucky' materials?

It's good to see you, rightnow.

here you go:

Kimkins Exhausted

oatmealyumyum · 12-21-2007, 04:43 PM

Beaglesaroo
thanks :-)

Katinsac · 12-21-2007, 04:45 PM

Ok, I'm a little confused as to who is posting where..I went to Jimmy's site and see a lot of people who post here and are fighting the fight and then I see them posting over there and I'm not sure if they are fighting the fight. Can someone explain? I also didn't notice anything by Jimmy...did I miss something? Where is it.

I know basically we are all on the same side as far as wanting Kimkins shut down and it is sad it is turning into us vs them and I hope that does stop because I know deep down we all want the same thing.

I'm just confused as to what is going on...

beachfires · 12-21-2007, 04:50 PM

Pocahontas
Head Mistress
Administrator
Camper

Katinsac · 12-21-2007, 04:53 PM

OK, Honey...thanks...read your blog and I think I get it...guess I'm just getting old, lol.

Looking forward to Yucky's addition after the Holiday's..

ETA: I use to LOVE the Facts of Life!! lol

rightnow · 12-21-2007, 05:01 PM

I haven't been reading on this topic in many months.

I am utterly ASTOUNDED that the kimkins website is still online. Although all the fake russian bride pics as kim and success stories appear to be gone, and I see a drastic revamping of the website to appear more 'real', and perhaps to combat the result of public exposure.

But how on earth could someone be publicly exposed, on the nightly news, for being an actual fraud in at least three different ways, and STILL be online? What, is it like the nazi "Big Lie" campaign where if you just say something loudly and often enough people will eventually believe it? What part of "give up, you're soooo busted" doesn't she get?

I suppose the website has a ton of traffic now from searches, media, and the WW article, so it's probably still lucrative, no matter what is done with the website (or the advice in it). At this point she could probably promote the Cinnamon Toothpick Diet and still make money off it. But given the quantity of intentionally perpetuated fraud so far, I just can't believe that she hasn't been prohibited by ruling already.

In addition to the courts, has anybody considered writing the better business bureau etc. of her location?

I can't focus on this very long because to be honest, the subject so overwhelmed and kind of depressed me last time that I left all LC online areas for awhile (and most of LC as well). I don't want to let myself get that burned out again. But I have to say that the whole ongoing soap opera has the sort of morbid fascination of a train wreck.

PJ

Nady · 12-21-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katinsac

OK, Honey...thanks...read your blog and I think I get it...guess I'm just getting old, lol.

I think you're not the only one~

~~~N

MomToEli · 12-21-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CarolynF

I thought Mahmet was some computer techie guy. He is Turkish, I believe. Where did I read that??? Anyone? Anyone?? He might have been Kimmer's techie guy who lent her money to buy out Catherine. Just a guess..

And his writing style is way like that of the anonymous guy who is quoted at Yucky's , saying the tech guy is his client, Ivanovich Cuxev, the owner & registrant of Kimkins review.

I kept reading his email and thinking, "I've read this guy before!" ... he also reminds me of the writer who presented himself ast MCD lady's son in law - you know, the one who said that Heidi shut them down?

Now, if that isn't a red flag, btw, I wouldn't know one if it ran up and kicked me in my seat cushions.

SMP · 12-21-2007, 05:13 PM

Ahhh, NOW we're getting paranoid. That's the spirit!

Katinsac · 12-21-2007, 05:19 PM

didn't they figure out that Mahmet was a new investor? These Senior Moments really start to get to you, lol....where is Honey when you need her...

Nady · 12-21-2007, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMP

Ahhh, NOW we're getting paranoid. That's the spirit!

about what? This Mahmet guy or people have a different demeanor on other BBs?
~~~N

oatmealyumyum · 12-21-2007, 05:21 PM

If I was to start weight loss site I wouldn't do a blanket lifetime membership because weight watchers only give those who hit goal lifetime memberships. It's not good business for your customers they end up being neglected for new members. But I guess life time doesn't mean anything if your only planning to stay around for three years.

wifezilla · 12-21-2007, 05:29 PM

Yeah...it is the life of a hamster, not a human. (Darn that fine print...LOL)

Bunnymuffin · 12-21-2007, 05:30 PM

Hi Pj,

Can you post details on your Cinnamon Toothpick diet???? How many carbs in the wood of the toothpick? And do you think Cinnamon oil has enough EFAs?
I love Cinnamon toothpicks, they rock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rightnow

At this point she could probably promote the Cinnamon Toothpick Diet and still make money off it.

CarolynF · 12-21-2007, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Yeah...it is the life of a hamster, not a human. (Darn that fine print...LOL)

Our 2 hamsters only lasted a year..or maybe they were gerbils..

Tooter · 12-21-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katinsac

didn't they figure out that Mahmet was a new investor? These Senior Moments really start to get to you, lol....where is Honey when you need her...

Well, thanks to you I searched her old posts.

Here it is:

clexus news media is now part of the lawsuit and the website domain is owned by:

Mehmet Tayfun
12345
Turkey

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc.
Domain Name: CLEXUS.COM
Created on: 22-Jul-05
Expires on: 22-Jul-09
Last Updated on: 29-Aug-06

Source- WHOIS Domain

Katinsac · 12-21-2007, 05:39 PM

good job tooter...I was too lazy to do it, lol

Tooter · 12-21-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katinsac

good job tooter...I was too lazy to do it, lol

You saved me on a blind search and put me in the right direction.

Thank you!!!

SMP · 12-21-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nady

about what? This Mahmet guy or people have a different demeanor on other BBs?
~~~N

About seeing Heidi behind every tree and bush, weaving her wicked spiderweb of deceit and intrigue with every new statement on this board. Some people are already horrified because she has singlehandedly diminished their trust in the innate decency of people, and now they examine every person with more scepticism. I'm not saying it's bad, merely inevitable.

Dana114 · 12-21-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbunny
Oh I'm not saying that Retin-A doesn't work, I'm saying that it would rip my face off if I used the strength she touted (I can't remember the number now, but it was much stronger than I've ever heard of people using) AND she combined it with a harsh face scrub (I think St. Ives Apricot Scrub was the one she said she used). I may be wrong, but to me this seems like really bad advice -- intentionally really bad advice. Like someone who wanted to hurt others? KWIM? Especially in light of the fact that her face is NOT that of the MILF she claimed to be.

Sorry to bring this from the last thread, but I wanted to comment on this statement because I, too, am very puzzled about what drives Kimmer. She does seem to give dreadful advice that can only harm ppl. For example, I went back over the skin care thread today and saw that she was continually recommending harmful practices, such as starting off with the very strongest levels of Retin-A, virtually ensuring skin burns. Even though it is KNOWN that more is not better with Retin-A, she continually recommended using it TWICE as often as recommended, saying "twice the benefits!" Unbelievable.

I read another debate I had with her where she advocated a dangerous WATER FAST even though it was demonstrated to her that a FAT FAST was much more effective without the dangerous side effects. This was her MO, arbitrarily recommend the most dangerous path and then mock and ridicule any dissenters as "wimps" or put them down as someone who "blindly" believes any old expert.

She did this quite often, give dreadful advice and then stubbornly defend it against all reason and logic and evidence.

As many of you know, I debated with her for a long time about her ridiculous ideas but I never could figure out what DROVE her and still wonder today.

Dana114 · 12-21-2007, 05:47 PM

I also asked her on that thread to post her pictures. She declined, of course, rather huffily.

SMP · 12-21-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oatmealyumyum

If I was to start weight loss site I wouldn't do a blanket lifetime membership because weight watchers only give those who hit goal lifetime memberships. It's not good business for your customers they end up being neglected for new members. But I guess life time doesn't mean anything if your only planning to stay around for three years.

Heidi made her money off joiners, not posters. If and when she starts a new site, there'll be no room for ex-Kimkinites. She needs a constant revenue stream to keep her dating the Captain and living life as a California flakey. (No offense to Californians.

) The only thing older posters are good for is to stroke her ego, and if she doesn't get that, what good are they to her?

Katinsac · 12-21-2007, 05:54 PM

no offense taken, SMP, lol

Nady · 12-21-2007, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMP

About seeing Heidi behind every tree and bush, weaving her wicked spiderweb of deceit and intrigue with every new statement on this board. Some people are already horrified because she has singlehandedly diminished their trust in the innate decency of people, and now they examine every person with more scepticism. I'm not saying it's bad, merely inevitable.

How does that saying go~ even paranoids have enemies?

I agree, it is a shame, but what can you do? Some boards aren't as vocal as LCF about calling people out when their advice seems questionable~ maybe we're a tough bunch of skeptics, but then, maybe that's our salvation too.
~~~N

wifezilla · 12-21-2007, 06:01 PM

No kidding Nady! LOL

robsrib · 12-21-2007, 06:09 PM

Haven't posted in awhile, lurking and keeping up the best I can though.

Here is the menu for a KKer:

Re:Table for Four 23 Hours, 6 Minutes ago
Hello my friends!.......................................... .......................
Menu:
Lunch: grilled chicken thighs (2), 2 jello cups
Dinner: grilled chicken thighs (2), lean pork (6oz)
snack: 2 jello cups, 2 no sugar added gherkins
Totals:695 calories, 33 fat grams, 2 carbs
(I edited the above to take out personal stuff)

At least one KKer sees the danger in the above posters menu
Re:Table for Four 14 Hours, 13 Minutes ago
Good Morning Ladies.

*******, you are doing a great job and TGIF!!!! Be careful with calories, ok, and eat some veggies!! I hope you have a wonderful .................................................. .

This is in response to the concern over caloric intake
Re:Table for Four 10 Hours, 20 Minutes ago
********* - Thanks for the advice. Do you mean be careful and eat MORE calories? I know I normally eat more. I have been so busy I haven't had time to make my cauli mashed and I've been falling asleep early and not eating as I normally do at night...........

Could she be tired because she is starving?!?!

Here is the response from the concerned KKer
Re:Table for Four 10 Hours ago

Yes, I meant more calories. Don't put yourself into starvation mode by not eating enough. I am discovering that I am losing better in the 1000 calorie range.

12-21-2007, 04:45 PM	#364
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,603 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Ok, I'm a little confused as to who is posting where..I went to Jimmy's site and see a lot of people who post here and are fighting the fight and then I see them posting over there and I'm not sure if they are fighting the fight. Can someone explain? I also didn't notice anything by Jimmy...did I miss something? Where is it. I know basically we are all on the same side as far as wanting Kimkins shut down and it is sad it is turning into us vs them and I hope that does stop because I know deep down we all want the same thing. I'm just confused as to what is going on... __________________ Kat "Once you go quack, you never go back!" ~Dottie "Is it too late to take that back?" The Kimmer!! Kimkins Join The Lawsuit Against Kimkins

12-21-2007, 05:01 PM	#367
rightnow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 192 Gallery: rightnow Stats: 482/368/350 WOE: My own	I haven't been reading on this topic in many months. I am utterly ASTOUNDED that the kimkins website is still online. Although all the fake russian bride pics as kim and success stories appear to be gone, and I see a drastic revamping of the website to appear more 'real', and perhaps to combat the result of public exposure. But how on earth could someone be publicly exposed, on the nightly news, for being an actual fraud in at least three different ways, and STILL be online? What, is it like the nazi "Big Lie" campaign where if you just say something loudly and often enough people will eventually believe it? What part of "give up, you're soooo busted" doesn't she get? I suppose the website has a ton of traffic now from searches, media, and the WW article, so it's probably still lucrative, no matter what is done with the website (or the advice in it). At this point she could probably promote the Cinnamon Toothpick Diet and still make money off it. But given the quantity of intentionally perpetuated fraud so far, I just can't believe that she hasn't been prohibited by ruling already. In addition to the courts, has anybody considered writing the better business bureau etc. of her location? I can't focus on this very long because to be honest, the subject so overwhelmed and kind of depressed me last time that I left all LC online areas for awhile (and most of LC as well). I don't want to let myself get that burned out again. But I have to say that the whole ongoing soap opera has the sort of morbid fascination of a train wreck. PJ __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's not a race to get thin; it's a journey to good health. My blogs: The Divine Low Carb \| Tomboy Tough \| LowCarb Mania!

12-21-2007, 04:33 PM	#361
rightnow Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 192 Gallery: rightnow Stats: 482/368/350 WOE: My own	I sincerely apologize for being out of the loop so much that I'm not even familiar with the names anymore (despite reading many pages). Can someone link me to the 'yucky' materials?

12-21-2007, 04:43 PM	#363
oatmealyumyum Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Gallery: oatmealyumyum	Beaglesaroo thanks :-)

12-21-2007, 04:50 PM	#365
beachfires Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Schenectady, NY Posts: 747 Gallery: beachfires Stats: 194/157/145 WOE: Atkins...modified to fit my life :o) Start Date: 1/5/04	Pocahontas Head Mistress Administrator Camper

12-21-2007, 04:53 PM	#366
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,603 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	OK, Honey...thanks...read your blog and I think I get it...guess I'm just getting old, lol. Looking forward to Yucky's addition after the Holiday's.. ETA: I use to LOVE the Facts of Life!! lol

12-21-2007, 05:13 PM	#370
SMP MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,966 Gallery: SMP Stats: 300/220/160 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Nov 2000	Ahhh, NOW we're getting paranoid. That's the spirit!

12-21-2007, 05:19 PM	#371
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,603 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	didn't they figure out that Mahmet was a new investor? These Senior Moments really start to get to you, lol....where is Honey when you need her...

12-21-2007, 05:21 PM	#373
oatmealyumyum Junior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Gallery: oatmealyumyum	If I was to start weight loss site I wouldn't do a blanket lifetime membership because weight watchers only give those who hit goal lifetime memberships. It's not good business for your customers they end up being neglected for new members. But I guess life time doesn't mean anything if your only planning to stay around for three years.

12-21-2007, 05:29 PM	#374
wifezilla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,140 Gallery: wifezilla Stats: 250/210/190 WOE: Read em all. Doing it my way. Start Date: May 2007	Yeah...it is the life of a hamster, not a human. (Darn that fine print...LOL)

12-21-2007, 05:39 PM	#378
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,603 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	good job tooter...I was too lazy to do it, lol

12-21-2007, 05:47 PM	#382
Dana114 Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, Texas! Posts: 6,192 Gallery: Dana114 Stats: 185/143/145 19.6% BF - Size 8 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 1999	I also asked her on that thread to post her pictures. She declined, of course, rather huffily.

12-21-2007, 05:54 PM	#384
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,603 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	no offense taken, SMP, lol

12-21-2007, 06:01 PM	#386
wifezilla Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,140 Gallery: wifezilla Stats: 250/210/190 WOE: Read em all. Doing it my way. Start Date: May 2007	No kidding Nady! LOL

12-21-2007, 06:09 PM	#387
robsrib Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 183 Gallery: robsrib Stats: restart 050408 159/157/145 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Nov. 2003	Haven't posted in awhile, lurking and keeping up the best I can though. Here is the menu for a KKer: Re:Table for Four 23 Hours, 6 Minutes ago Hello my friends!.......................................... ....................... Menu: Lunch: grilled chicken thighs (2), 2 jello cups Dinner: grilled chicken thighs (2), lean pork (6oz) snack: 2 jello cups, 2 no sugar added gherkins Totals:695 calories, 33 fat grams, 2 carbs (I edited the above to take out personal stuff) At least one KKer sees the danger in the above posters menu Re:Table for Four 14 Hours, 13 Minutes ago Good Morning Ladies. ******, you are doing a great job and TGIF!!!! Be careful with calories, ok, and eat some veggies!! I hope you have a wonderful .................................................. . This is in response to the concern over caloric intake* Re:Table for Four 10 Hours, 20 Minutes ago ********* - Thanks for the advice. Do you mean be careful and eat MORE calories? I know I normally eat more. I have been so busy I haven't had time to make my cauli mashed and I've been falling asleep early and not eating as I normally do at night........... Could she be tired because she is starving?!?! Here is the response from the concerned KKer Re:Table for Four 10 Hours ago Yes, I meant more calories. Don't put yourself into starvation mode by not eating enough. I am discovering that I am losing better in the 1000 calorie range.