Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11 - Page 8

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:07 PM

Do you want your money back?

September 20, 2007 by kimkinslawsuit The last six weeks have revealed a myriad of problems with the diet plan found on the Kimkins.com website. There are health issues, identity issues and even the issue of general plan information being free elsewhere on the web.
The history of these findings can be accessed all over the web.
If you are a member of Kimkins.com or were a member of Kimkins.com, you are eligible to participate in a class action lawsuit that is being organized by John E. Tiedt of www.tiedtlaw.com.
There is strength in numbers and every voice counts!!!
If you would like to be a representative in the Kimkims.com Class Action Lawsuit, please send the following to kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com:
1.) Your legal name and mailing address
2.) A telephone number where you can be reached between the hours of 11am-8pm EST
3.) The amount you paid Kimkins.com
4.) The approximate date that you joined Kimkins.com as a paid member
You will not have to appear in court or pay a dime.

Posted in Kimkins, Kimkins Controversy, Kimkins Diet, Kimkins Dieting, Kimkins Exposed, Kimkins Fraud, Kimkins Lawsuit, Kimkins Lies, Kimkins Scam, Kimkins Truth, Kimkins.com, Kimmer | 2 Comments »

We Need You!

September 19, 2007 by kimkinslawsuit It was suggested that I start a blog in order to include pertinent information regarding the Kimkins.com class action lawsuit that is being organized. It is vital that a significant number of people who signed up/paid for Kimkins.com come forward to participate as representatives in the lawsuit in order for us to see “Kimmer” come to justice.
Participation only requires that you submit your legal contact information and financial information (proof that you paid).
You will not have to show up in court.
You will not have to pay a dime.
You do not have to be banned.
This lawsuit is not about being banned. It is about the true identity of “Kimmer” and the fraudulent claims that were made in Kimkins.com advertising, along with the dangers of the diet and medical advice given through Kimkins.com.
The attorney who is investigating this case is John E. Tiedt, a great consumer fraud attorney based in Riverside, CA, who can be reached via the following:
www.tiedtlaw.com
jtiedt@tiedtlaw.com
951-343-3320
If you would like to be a representative in this case, please e-mail me the following at kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com:
1.) Your legal contact information, including full name and mailing address.
2.) A telephone number(s) where you can be reached between the hours of 11am - 8pm EST. (If you can not be reached before 5pm EST, specify that in your e-mail.
3.) The amount that you paid to Kimkins.com
4.) The approximate date that you paid Kimkins.com
I look forward to hearing from you soon!

JadeRosie · 12-01-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Well see, the other problem she has is this.... she's been supposedly collecting social security disability. And... at years end, she's going to owe social security taxes on that income, not just federal taxes to the IRS. So... when she pays those social security taxes, her social security number will be automatically run against a fraud-prevention data base of social security numbers that receive social security payments. Her number will be flagged.... and they will say.... "we're paying benefits to this gal for disability.... but she has all this earned income.... so she's out earning money, but she's supposed to be disabled .... hey, what's up with that?"

And yep, they'll be "knocking at her door" too. And if they find she cashed any of those social security checks while taking in unreported or under-reported income.... well, it's called "fraud". And it results in repayments of every penney plus fines and penalties. And no doubt they'll go back and look at 2006, too. Heidi's in trouble.

And there's also that additional pesky matter of taking money for foster kids and saying all 100% of her proceeds were going to foster kids, when she didn't have foster kids.

ketosis · 12-01-2007, 11:08 PM

Anyone who knows about the deposition, was Heidi's lawyer there?

And is the information available anywhere? I haven't looked at the court docs in a while (no time) but I was curious.

Also has anyone else been deposed like Tippy? Will they be? I would think that might be a possibility?

Is she posting as "Heidi" now on KK? When I read that her lawyer said to make "kimmer" disappear I assumed he meant the fictitious character "kimmer" but I read it all so fast I missed some stuff.

MollyBrown · 12-01-2007, 11:09 PM

originally posted by jwc on Why the fascination with Kimmer #10 re what Tippy SHOULD have said:

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I'm sorry I helped perpetuate the lies of a sociopath. I knew she was lying. I knew she was Heidi Diaz and I didn't care. I let the power of the BAN button and promise of cash cloud my judgment, compassion, and integrity. To help make amends, I intend to donate every dime I made off Kimkins to charities supporting eating disorders. I intend to join the class action lawsuit and donate my knowledge of illegal activities at Kimkins without any compensation to myself. I am willing to testify against Heidi Diaz. I offer my apologies to LCF members and administrators for my inability to accept THETRUTH. I wish to thank Cristin, Deni, and Becky for having the integrity to expose the lies while I continued to perpetuate them. I know I was wrong, and I hope someday I can earn forgiveness through my actions.

This has probably been brought up before...but the difference between Tippy and Christin, Deni, and Becky is that by the time Tippy joined up with Heidi, the evidence of wrongdoing had been made clear to all. The original admins who left were in the dark when they started but Tippy was not.

It reminds me of the fable of the little boy who picks up a rattlesnake after it promises not to bite him. When the snake, responding to its nature, sinks its fangs in anyway, the little boy cries, "why did you do that when you said you wouldn't?" To which the snake replies, "you knew what I was when you picked me up."

Tippy knew what Kimmer was when she teamed up. ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssss

Still, I do feel a little sorry for her.

originally posted by MistyJ on Why the fascination with Kimmer #10

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Did Hidey always use an on-line storefront for her kimmerwear? I was looking around her site to see what has changed, I clicked on her kimmerwear and noticed it opened up in printfection.

I think it always went to a vendor, if I recall correctly it used to go to cafe press not printfection.

JadeRosie · 12-01-2007, 11:09 PM

is there a transcript of the deposition anywhere/

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:10 PM

don't know if her lawyer was there...

court docs indicate other depo's....one of my questions

kimmer is still going under kimmer at kk

EasyPeas · 12-01-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyBrown

I don't think you have to be banned to join the lawsuit. If you are a paying Kimkins member, you should be able to claim you were defrauded by the lies about Kimmer's weight loss and the before and after pics.

Does anyone have definitive knowledge of the rules under which someone can join the lawsuit?

I had understood that to join the lawsuit, you only had to have joined Kimkins, and have some kind of documentation of payment.

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Well see, the other problem she has is this.... she's been supposedly collecting social security disability. And... at years end, she's going to owe social security taxes on that income, not just federal taxes to the IRS. So... when she pays those social security taxes, her social security number will be automatically run against a fraud-prevention data base of social security numbers that receive social security payments. Her number will be flagged.... and they will say.... "we're paying benefits to this gal for disability.... but she has all this earned income.... so she's out earning money, but she's supposed to be disabled .... hey, what's up with that?"

And yep, they'll be "knocking at her door" too. And if they find she cashed any of those social security checks while taking in unreported or under-reported income.... well, it's called "fraud". And it results in repayments of every penny plus fines and penalties. And no doubt they'll go back and look at 2006, too. Heidi's in trouble.

And it all started with Jeanessa's 59.95.

The other thing I just thought about, if she loses the lawsuit and is forced to give up most of her money, she would still have to pay the taxes on the income to the IRS, wouldn't she? So, basically she'd be broke from the lawsuit but still responsible for the taxes from the income? That almost makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

BamaGal · 12-01-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

yes, Bama, but I don't think it was that company that found that info but I could be wrong.

here's mclurkypants post:

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Oh, we'll hear about it. And the plaintiffs' attorney in the class action suit is all over her income situation. If I understand correctly, they have actually brought in another law firm that specializes in asset discovery & seizure, very smart move which helped them get what they DID get seized before Hidey spent/hid it all.

so this company is who found Heidi hiding her assets...

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Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I don't know, but if she's already had it once, I guess it might be hard to find a doctor who would do it a second time.

Also getting back to the finance stuff, I'm so glad all of you posted the things you did. It made me realize what a world of hurt she's really in.

getting a WLS revision is easy--since Heidi is on disability---she will have medicare---medicare approval is automatic

Quote:

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Well see, the other problem she has is this.... she's been supposedly collecting social security disability. And... at years end, she's going to owe social security taxes on that income, not just federal taxes to the IRS. So... when she pays those social security taxes, her social security number will be automatically run against a fraud-prevention data base of social security numbers that receive social security payments. Her number will be flagged.... and they will say.... "we're paying benefits to this gal for disability.... but she has all this earned income.... so she's out earning money, but she's supposed to be disabled .... hey, what's up with that?"

And yep, they'll be "knocking at her door" too. And if they find she cashed any of those social security checks while taking in unreported or under-reported income.... well, it's called "fraud". And it results in repayments of every penny plus fines and penalties. And no doubt they'll go back and look at 2006, too. Heidi's in trouble.

not everyone obtaining disability have to pay income taxes---it matters how much you are receiving---if it falls below a certain level--you are exempt from paying

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:17 PM

yes, and when you can't pay all the money you owe to the IRS at once, and agree to some kind of payment plan.....with the interest, etc., it takes years for you to ever get it paid and in her case...she would be dead before it was paid...now...would her kids be responsible for the repayments?

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:19 PM

do you have to pay spousal support to an EX for the rest of their life if they have no income and do not remarry?

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyBrown

originally posted by jwc on Why the fascination with Kimmer #10 re what Tippy SHOULD have said:

This has probably been brought up before...but the difference between Tippy and Christin, Deni, and Becky is that by the time Tippy joined up with Heidi, the evidence of wrongdoing had been made clear to all. The original admins who left were in the dark when they started but Tippy was not.

It reminds me of the fable of the little boy who picks up a rattlesnake after it promises not to bite him. When the snake, responding to its nature, sinks its fangs in anyway, the little boy cries, "why did you do that when you said you wouldn't?" To which the snake replies, "you knew what I was when you picked me up."

Tippy knew what Kimmer was when she teamed up. ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssss

Still, I do feel a little sorry for her.

originally posted by MistyJ on Why the fascination with Kimmer #10

I think it always went to a vendor, if I recall correctly it used to go to cafe press not printfection.

Very good point! And I loved the fable.

MollyBrown · 12-01-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Joanie, I wanted to expand on my statement "large transfers are reported to the IRS. Which would leave a trail. Hence.... the money is not hidden"

There's a lot of focus on Heidi's legal troubles as far as the lawsuit, and I agree, she's in trouble there. But I personally think she may have a bigger problem, and that is the IRS. If one only considers the money that came into Paypal, and nothing else, that income will be reported by Paypal to the IRS automatically at years end. If she made as much as it appears she has, in a single calendar year, she's looking at some massive tax payments....a million or more.... not only as a business, but also as an individual. If she hasn't handled the IRS piece correctly (and I really doubt she has...) at some point they will come looking for her, either on the business side or on the personal side. And when they do, they won't take "gee, sorry, lost it in Vegas" as an answer. They will audit every cent she's spent in the last forever, to see if her expenditures correspond with her stated income. If she can't prove where the money came from for every last gallon of milk or sugar cookie or whatever, they'll assume she's understating her income and she will be in serious trouble. By the time they get finished with her, there will be nothing left. It's called "income tax evasion" and it's one thing that brings people down when nothing else does. And if she is found to have evaded taxes, there is nothing that will get her out of that, she will owe back taxes and penalties so deep and so high, she will be living in poverty and paying the IRS for the rest of her life. So personally, I'm not sure that John Tiedt is her biggest problem. And I think if she managed to hide a little of her money for now, it's just a matter of time before even that gets taken away.

JMHO

Perhaps the house and cars she bought are for "charitable donations" -- to go to her foster boys.

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:21 PM

I don't care how much information they got out of Heidi at her depo...I think they still should have gone through with Brandon's depo...I think they just might have gotten a little more info...

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:21 PM

there you go Molly...she can write them off on her taxes and owe nothing!!

Katinsac · 12-01-2007, 11:23 PM

ok, guys...doesn't look like SL is coming in tonight to sing so I'm going to go take a hot shower and break up some of this cold and hit the sack. I'll catch you all tomorrow. I have a feeling (psychic) it is going to be a very interesting day.

JoanieOrchard · 12-01-2007, 11:26 PM

I have to hit the sack too. Being up so late last night threw my entire day off today, and I can't let that happen again tomorrow.

Have a good Sunday, everyone.

EasyPeas · 12-01-2007, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

And it all started with Jeanessa's 59.95.

The other thing I just thought about, if she loses the lawsuit and is forced to give up most of her money, she would still have to pay the taxes on the income to the IRS, wouldn't she? So, basically she'd be broke from the lawsuit but still responsible for the taxes from the income? That almost makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

Yep! You got it! IRS obligations are not bankruptable. There is no way to get out of them. She will be paying the IRS for a long, long time. Uhm... "forever" comes to mind.

EasyPeas · 12-01-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaGal

not everyone obtaining disability have to pay income taxes---it matters how much you are receiving---if it falls below a certain level--you are exempt from paying

Normally no. But in Heidi's case, her Kimkins income puts her above the reporting threshold. And her CPA will "help" her do her taxes right... unless she's really dumb... and tries to do her own taxes. And I am not sure but I think... that the IRS and the Social Security Admin. also cross check their data bases... to weed out fraud. If she pays federal taxes, but not social security taxes, they'll find her.

HoneyBee2 · 12-01-2007, 11:42 PM

clexus news media-

As I said earlier- clexus news media is another defendant that has been added to the class action lawsuit along with Heidi Diaz, Kimkins,& Halcyon Web.
I referenced that it was linked to Heidi's "tech guys" and kimkins "site update". Here is some additional information-

-Clexus has a copyrighted private messaging system and this system was used at kimkins. The following would appear on private messages at kimkins-
Clexus Private Messaging requires Javascript activated.
Please enable Javascript.

-The copyright information of the Clexus PM system belongs to the author

Danial T.- google cache copyright
Danial T. is also the-Technical Director, Co-founder at CLEXUS- google cached clexus
Kimkins- There was a lead tech after Catherine left Kimkins by the name of Danial

-CLEXUS, Art Director, Co-founder -

Aliyar F. google cache

Kimkins- An additional tech guy by the name of Aliyar came on to work with Danial and after Danial left Aliyar was then given lead tech.

Just showing the full circle here-
It would seem that the PM system that CLEXUS have the copyright of would be one reason that they are on the lawsuit and the other would be the employees of CLEXUS who Kimmer called her "tech guys"

EasyPeas · 12-01-2007, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

clexus news media-

As I said earlier- clexus news media is another defendant that has been added to the class action lawsuit along with Heidi Diaz, Kimkins,& Halcyon Web.
I referenced that it was linked to Heidi's "tech guys" and kimkins "site update". Here is some additional information-

-Clexus has a copyrighted private messaging system and this system was used at kimkins. The following would appear on private messages at kimkins-
Clexus Private Messaging requires Javascript activated.
Please enable Javascript.

-The copyright information of the Clexus PM system belongs to the author

Danial T.- google cache copyright
Danial T. is also the-Technical Director, Co-founder at CLEXUS- google cached clexus
Kimkins- There was a lead tech after Catherine left Kimkins by the name of Danial

-CLEXUS, Art Director, Co-founder -

Aliyar F. google cache

Kimkins- An additional tech guy by the name of Aliyar came on to work with Danial and after Danial left Aliyar was then given lead tech.

Just showing the full circle here-
It would seem that the PM system that CLEXUS have the copyright of would be one reason that they are on the lawsuit and the other would be the employees of CLEXUS who Kimmer called her "tech guys"

Honeybee.... thanks so much for getting that information all figured out! You are truly amazing!

I think I need to hire you.... to find the socks that keep disappearing in the washer!

Sheridan · 12-01-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ketosis

Heidi is of German parentage as far as I recall. Does anyone know her mother's name?

Wasn't it discovered in one of the earlier Fascination threads that her mother's maiden name is Drake and that's probably why she used the pseudonym, "Kim Drake" in the WW article?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EasyPeas

Well see, the other problem she has is this.... she's been supposedly collecting social security disability. And... at years end, she's going to owe social security taxes on that income, not just federal taxes to the IRS. So... when she pays those social security taxes, her social security number will be automatically run against a fraud-prevention data base of social security numbers that receive social security payments. Her number will be flagged.... and they will say.... "we're paying benefits to this gal for disability.... but she has all this earned income.... so she's out earning money, but she's supposed to be disabled .... hey, what's up with that?"

And yep, they'll be "knocking at her door" too. And if they find she cashed any of those social security checks while taking in unreported or under-reported income.... well, it's called "fraud". And it results in repayments of every penny plus fines and penalties. And no doubt they'll go back and look at 2006, too. Heidi's in trouble.

That should be the quote of the year!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JadeRosie

And there's also that additional pesky matter of taking money for foster kids and saying all 100% of her proceeds were going to foster kids, when she didn't have foster kids.

Oh, those pesky little details!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MollyBrown

originally posted by jwc on Why the fascination with Kimmer #10 re what Tippy SHOULD have said:

This has probably been brought up before...but the difference between Tippy and Christin, Deni, and Becky is that by the time Tippy joined up with Heidi, the evidence of wrongdoing had been made clear to all. The original admins who left were in the dark when they started but Tippy was not.

It reminds me of the fable of the little boy who picks up a rattlesnake after it promises not to bite him. When the snake, responding to its nature, sinks its fangs in anyway, the little boy cries, "why did you do that when you said you wouldn't?" To which the snake replies, "you knew what I was when you picked me up."

Tippy knew what Kimmer was when she teamed up. ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssss

Still, I do feel a little sorry for her.

I can't muster ANY sympathy for Tippy. She tried to blackmail a mod here and deliberately tried to sabotage someone's weight loss efforts. She's a known troublemaker. She KNEW what she was getting into.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

And it all started with Jeanessa's 59.95.

The other thing I just thought about, if she loses the lawsuit and is forced to give up most of her money, she would still have to pay the taxes on the income to the IRS, wouldn't she? So, basically she'd be broke from the lawsuit but still responsible for the taxes from the income? That almost makes my head hurt just thinking about it.

She'll be broker than she ever has been in her entire life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaGal

getting a WLS revision is easy--since Heidi is on disability---she will have medicare---medicare approval is automatic

not ev

12-01-2007, 11:07 PM	#211
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Do you want your money back? September 20, 2007 by kimkinslawsuit The last six weeks have revealed a myriad of problems with the diet plan found on the Kimkins.com website. There are health issues, identity issues and even the issue of general plan information being free elsewhere on the web. The history of these findings can be accessed all over the web. If you are a member of Kimkins.com or were a member of Kimkins.com, you are eligible to participate in a class action lawsuit that is being organized by John E. Tiedt of www.tiedtlaw.com. There is strength in numbers and every voice counts!!! If you would like to be a representative in the Kimkims.com Class Action Lawsuit, please send the following to kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com: 1.) Your legal name and mailing address 2.) A telephone number where you can be reached between the hours of 11am-8pm EST 3.) The amount you paid Kimkins.com 4.) The approximate date that you joined Kimkins.com as a paid member You will not have to appear in court or pay a dime. Posted in Kimkins, Kimkins Controversy, Kimkins Diet, Kimkins Dieting, Kimkins Exposed, Kimkins Fraud, Kimkins Lawsuit, Kimkins Lies, Kimkins Scam, Kimkins Truth, Kimkins.com, Kimmer \| 2 Comments » We Need You! September 19, 2007 by kimkinslawsuit It was suggested that I start a blog in order to include pertinent information regarding the Kimkins.com class action lawsuit that is being organized. It is vital that a significant number of people who signed up/paid for Kimkins.com come forward to participate as representatives in the lawsuit in order for us to see “Kimmer” come to justice. Participation only requires that you submit your legal contact information and financial information (proof that you paid). You will not have to show up in court. You will not have to pay a dime. You do not have to be banned. This lawsuit is not about being banned. It is about the true identity of “Kimmer” and the fraudulent claims that were made in Kimkins.com advertising, along with the dangers of the diet and medical advice given through Kimkins.com. The attorney who is investigating this case is John E. Tiedt, a great consumer fraud attorney based in Riverside, CA, who can be reached via the following: www.tiedtlaw.com jtiedt@tiedtlaw.com 951-343-3320 If you would like to be a representative in this case, please e-mail me the following at kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com: 1.) Your legal contact information, including full name and mailing address. 2.) A telephone number(s) where you can be reached between the hours of 11am - 8pm EST. (If you can not be reached before 5pm EST, specify that in your e-mail. 3.) The amount that you paid to Kimkins.com 4.) The approximate date that you paid Kimkins.com I look forward to hearing from you soon! __________________ Kat "Once you go quack, you never go back!" ~Dottie "Is it too late to take that back?" The Kimmer!! Kimkins Join The Lawsuit Against Kimkins

12-01-2007, 11:42 PM	#230
HoneyBee2 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In Your Bonnet Posts: 2,407 Blog Entries: 4 Gallery: HoneyBee2 Stats: Bored Housewife...Right :) WOE: Honey	clexus news media- As I said earlier- clexus news media is another defendant that has been added to the class action lawsuit along with Heidi Diaz, Kimkins,& Halcyon Web. I referenced that it was linked to Heidi's "tech guys" and kimkins "site update". Here is some additional information- -Clexus has a copyrighted private messaging system and this system was used at kimkins. The following would appear on private messages at kimkins- Clexus Private Messaging requires Javascript activated. Please enable Javascript. -The copyright information of the Clexus PM system belongs to the author Danial T.- google cache copyright Danial T. is also the-Technical Director, Co-founder at CLEXUS- google cached clexus Kimkins- There was a lead tech after Catherine left Kimkins by the name of Danial -CLEXUS, Art Director, Co-founder - Aliyar F. google cache Kimkins- An additional tech guy by the name of Aliyar came on to work with Danial and after Danial left Aliyar was then given lead tech. Just showing the full circle here- It would seem that the PM system that CLEXUS have the copyright of would be one reason that they are on the lawsuit and the other would be the employees of CLEXUS who Kimmer called her "tech guys" __________________ HoneyBee My Blog-HoneyBee's blog My Blog-I am Not Ready to Make Nice __________________________________

12-01-2007, 11:08 PM	#213
ketosis Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 924 Gallery: ketosis Stats: 200/150/130 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Jan 2005	Anyone who knows about the deposition, was Heidi's lawyer there? And is the information available anywhere? I haven't looked at the court docs in a while (no time) but I was curious. Also has anyone else been deposed like Tippy? Will they be? I would think that might be a possibility? Is she posting as "Heidi" now on KK? When I read that her lawyer said to make "kimmer" disappear I assumed he meant the fictitious character "kimmer" but I read it all so fast I missed some stuff.

12-01-2007, 11:09 PM	#215
JadeRosie Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: District of Columbia Posts: 10,893 Gallery: JadeRosie Stats: 205/190/125 WOE: atkins Start Date: March 2008	is there a transcript of the deposition anywhere/

12-01-2007, 11:10 PM	#216
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	don't know if her lawyer was there... court docs indicate other depo's....one of my questions kimmer is still going under kimmer at kk

12-01-2007, 11:17 PM	#220
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	yes, and when you can't pay all the money you owe to the IRS at once, and agree to some kind of payment plan.....with the interest, etc., it takes years for you to ever get it paid and in her case...she would be dead before it was paid...now...would her kids be responsible for the repayments?

12-01-2007, 11:19 PM	#221
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	do you have to pay spousal support to an EX for the rest of their life if they have no income and do not remarry?

12-01-2007, 11:21 PM	#224
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	I don't care how much information they got out of Heidi at her depo...I think they still should have gone through with Brandon's depo...I think they just might have gotten a little more info...

12-01-2007, 11:21 PM	#225
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	there you go Molly...she can write them off on her taxes and owe nothing!!

12-01-2007, 11:23 PM	#226
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,588 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	ok, guys...doesn't look like SL is coming in tonight to sing so I'm going to go take a hot shower and break up some of this cold and hit the sack. I'll catch you all tomorrow. I have a feeling (psychic) it is going to be a very interesting day.

12-01-2007, 11:26 PM	#227
JoanieOrchard Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 345 Gallery: JoanieOrchard	I have to hit the sack too. Being up so late last night threw my entire day off today, and I can't let that happen again tomorrow. Have a good Sunday, everyone.