Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11

[WildAngel6]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

Hey all,

I haven't been here for a long time, but wanted to ask if anyone is receiving their kimkins refunds? Heidi said she'd send me a check 2 weeks ago. I have not received it yet. I have emailed her 3 more times and gotten no reply. In my first email to her I said:

"I've been emailing for a refund since November 12th and have never received my refunds. Could you please let me know if I will be getting one or not? I have seen people on message boards saying that you are lying about giving out refunds and I dont know what to believe anymore. I would just appreciate a straight answer as to whether or not I will be receiving one. If not, I will stop wasting my time. Thanks.".

She wrote back and said:

"Hi Lisa,

I'm looking through the support center tickets and I don't see one for you. When did you submit it? Do you have a ticket number? If you didn't go through the support center, send an email to support@kimkins.com OK?

We need your name, address and Paypal ID number for the refund. The lawsuit attorney froze the Paypal account so now we're mailing refund checks.

I think whoever is saying that we're not sending refunds is trying to keep trouble stirred up. The people who have received refunds know we sent them.

I'm right here OK?

Kimmer"

I sent her the information she asked for AGAIN and now hear nothing from her. Is she lying to others like this? If I ever receive a refund, I will definitely come back here and set the record straight, but I think 2 weeks was more then enough time for my refund to have been received. If she is lying and has no intentions of sending me a refund, can't she get in further trouble for this? I would think someone being investigated for FRAUD would at least start watching what she says and does. I am so sick and tired of this entire situation and wish I had never found that stupid website. Oh and also, since November 30th when she said she'd mail my refund, the remaining ID I had that still worked on Kimkins no longer works, so I've been removed from Kimkins, but haven't gotten my refunds! Since I've received no refunds, the ID that hasn't been banned should still be mine to legally use. Sorry to rant. Just thought I'd ask if she's lying to everyone about the refunds or is she just picking a select few to send the refunds to? Thanks.

Blessings,
Lisa

Lisa,

I'm sorry that you are having trouble dealing with Heidi, but that isn't anything new. It sounds like she is just stalling about giving you your money back or admitting that she doesn't "have" any money to return to you, since her accounts are frozen.

You will undoubtedly have better luck getting a refund if you join the Kimkins Class Action Lawsuit.

Want to see Heidi come to justice? Kimkinslawsuit’s Weblog

[beckynett]

I agree. We need more people to join the lawsuit and work together, rather than seek individual redress.
There is strength in numbers.

The Writ of Attachment the judge issued was not just for her PayPal account, but for all named accounts PLUS her Accounts Receivable. Thus, any new money from new members joining (and, yes, new members continue to join every day) is technically also frozen. It does not matter whether it comes in the form of check, cash, money order, credit card, PayPal deposit, or whatever. Receivables to Kimkins in any manner, to any account, fall within the scope of the attachment order.

If she is shuffling and hiding money, or setting up new accounts for new membership fees, she is in violation of a court order.

She just cannot bring herself to comply with the rules the rest of us must follow, apparently.

[WildAngel6]

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[BamaGal]

Originally Posted by beckynett

I agree. We need more people to join the lawsuit and work together, rather than seek individual redress.
There is strength in numbers.

The Writ of Attachment the judge issued was not just for her PayPal account, but for all named accounts PLUS her Accounts Receivable. Thus, any new money from new members joining (and, yes, new members continue to join every day) is technically also frozen. It does not matter whether it comes in the form of check, cash, money order, credit card, PayPal deposit, or whatever. Receivables to Kimkins in any manner, to any account, fall within the scope of the attachment order.

If she is shuffling and hiding money, or setting up new accounts for new membership fees, she is in violation of a court order.

She just cannot bring herself to comply with the rules the rest of us must follow, apparently.

all this bears repeating---thanks for stopping in and letting us know these things----

Lisa---do join the lawsuit---

[eggonmyface]

Originally Posted by beckynett

I agree. We need more people to join the lawsuit and work together, rather than seek individual redress.
There is strength in numbers.

The Writ of Attachment the judge issued was not just for her PayPal account, but for all named accounts PLUS her Accounts Receivable. Thus, any new money from new members joining (and, yes, new members continue to join every day) is technically also frozen. It does not matter whether it comes in the form of check, cash, money order, credit card, PayPal deposit, or whatever. Receivables to Kimkins in any manner, to any account, fall within the scope of the attachment order.

If she is shuffling and hiding money, or setting up new accounts for new membership fees, she is in violation of a court order.

She just cannot bring herself to comply with the rules the rest of us must follow, apparently.

Becky,
Is there an account or could an account be set up to assist folks who can not join the lawsuit because they NEED their funds back. Maybe receive finanical assistance from others on this board?

[LISAinTN]

I already joined the lawsuit and then I saw back in November she was offering refunds. Selfish as this may sound to some, I have had a stressful last year or more. Personal things have been going on along with health problems. I just chose to take my refund and be done with this. As my husband said, "You are always trying to save the world. It's time to bow out for once and let someone else save it" and he is right. I don't need the extra stress in my life. My holidays sucked last year and I just chose to try and eliminate some stress this year. My sister lost her only son (and only child) in a car accident 2 years ago also, so the holidays are depressing for us now as it is anyway. I just wanted to try and enjoy them for once this year. I will stay in the lawsuit if I don't get my refund, but I really just wanted to be able to forget about it all.

Blessings,
Lisa

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by Gelleaux

I can do better than call, if y'all think it's a good idea. The address listed is less than an hour from where I live, and I would be more than happy to make a little road trip this weekend to see what's at that location.

Most likely a cow or a goat, knowing the area. Woohoo! Investigative road trip!!

Hey, are you planning a road trip this weekend? The Magic Chicken website seems to have gone poof but it would still be interesting to see if there is a candle shop there.

[beckynett]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

I already joined the lawsuit and then I saw back in November she was offering refunds. Selfish as this may sound to some, I have had a stressful last year or more. Personal things have been going on along with health problems. I just chose to take my refund and be done with this. As my husband said, "You are always trying to save the world. It's time to bow out for once and let someone else save it" and he is right. I don't need the extra stress in my life. My holidays sucked last year and I just chose to try and eliminate some stress this year. My sister lost her only son (and only child) in a car accident 2 years ago also, so the holidays are depressing for us now as it is anyway. I just wanted to try and enjoy them for once this year. I will stay in the lawsuit if I don't get my refund, but I really just wanted to be able to forget about it all.

Blessings,
Lisa

Dear Lisa, I in no way meant any criticism. I am very sorry to have added to your distress. Please forgive me!

I hope your refund comes through for you. I don't blame you a bit for wanting the whole thing over and behind you. You are more than entitled to that.

If Heidi fails to honor your request, though, I do not believe staying in the suit will require anything more on your part than the affidavit. You will not need to appear, testify, or anything. Be at ease on that point, at least.

Blessings to you, friend!

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by beckynett

Dear Lisa, I in no way meant any criticism. I am very sorry to have added to your distress. Please forgive me!

I hope your refund comes through for you. I don't blame you a bit for wanting the whole thing over and behind you. You are more than entitled to that.

If Heidi fails to honor your request, though, I do not believe staying in the suit will require anything more on your part than the affidavit. You will not need to appear, testify, or anything. Be at ease on that point, at least.

Blessings to you, friend!

Becky, you don't need to apologize. I just was explaining my position to everyone. I will stay in the suit if I don't get the refund and the way it's looking right now, I'm not going to get it anyway. lol

Blessings,
Lisa

ETA: P.S. I still don't understand her lying about this. She's in enough trouble as it is. Why lie further? I guess it just comes naturally to her or something. LOL

[WildAngel6]

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[Mayberryfan]

LisaTN said:

I still don't understand her lying about this. She's in enough trouble as it is. Why lie further? I guess it just comes naturally to her or something. LOL

Heidi is a pathological liar! It comes more naturally to her than telling the truth. Sad, but true.

Sorry to hear about your situation. The holidays can be a stressful time for many people. But, I hope you and your family manage to have a good holiday season!

[LWwillLOSE]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

I already joined the lawsuit and then I saw back in November she was offering refunds. Selfish as this may sound to some, I have had a stressful last year or more. Personal things have been going on along with health problems. I just chose to take my refund and be done with this. As my husband said, "You are always trying to save the world. It's time to bow out for once and let someone else save it" and he is right. I don't need the extra stress in my life. My holidays sucked last year and I just chose to try and eliminate some stress this year. My sister lost her only son (and only child) in a car accident 2 years ago also, so the holidays are depressing for us now as it is anyway. I just wanted to try and enjoy them for once this year. I will stay in the lawsuit if I don't get my refund, but I really just wanted to be able to forget about it all.

Blessings,
Lisa

Lisa, just for the record... I did receive my refund from Heidi as did at least 3 other people I know. I requested it on 11/12 and it was deposited in my Paypal account 2 days later. The timeframes were very similar for the others I know as well.

Hope she refunds yours as well Take care.

[WildAngel6]

My goodness, you can find information about the Kimkins Diet Scam everywhere on the 'net.

Obviously this site was posted back in October, but I just came across it in my various web searches....

Lawsuit Filed Over "Kimkins" Diet - Lawsuit [Breaking News USA]

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by Mariasol

Hey, are you planning a road trip this weekend? The Magic Chicken website seems to have gone poof but it would still be interesting to see if there is a candle shop there.

I sent the magic chicken lady an email asking how she could charge for her advice without having any qualifications for giving the advice except that it worked for her. I said people are helping each other every day on message boards across the weight loss community without making money at it. And I asked her how she could want to emulate kimkins when it was a scam. Anyway I was strongly opinionated about my take on her enterprise.

She answered back that God had helped her and she felt that He wanted her to help others now,and that didn't come cheap. Websites need money and programmers need money and computers cost money, and I sounded like a person that was trying to get something for nothing from her, and I should probably go live in a communist country so I could get things for free. Then she said I was negative and that I needed to read a zig ziglar book and get the negativity out of my life in order to overcome my problems. She said she was going to pray for me and hoped whatever I was going through would only be temporary in my life.

Well, I answered her back and said that people are helping people every day for nothing on the low carb message boards that I visit and they do it out of kindness and sincerity. In fact there are even more qualified people than her that are helping others and supporting others. They aren't seeing their own success as a way to make a quick buck, or saying "kimmer did it, so why can't I cash in on it too" I also told her I didn't want her diet and wasn't trying to get it for free and I definitely wasn't going to pay anyone for diet advice ever again. I said after the kimkins scam caught me I feel I have become a watch dog for scam diet sites and if one person is saved from a harmful diet or bad diet advice, then the effort was worth it. Oh and I'm a happy person too.

Now it looks like her site may be down?

[gibster]

Originally Posted by TerryC

I sent the magic chicken lady an email asking how she could charge for her advice without having any qualifications for giving the advice except that it worked for her. I said people are helping each other every day on message boards across the weight loss community without making money at it. And I asked her how she could want to emulate kimkins when it was a scam. Anyway I was strongly opinionated about my take on her enterprise.

She answered back that God had helped her and she felt that He wanted her to help others now,and that didn't come cheap. Websites need money and programmers need money and computers cost money, and I sounded like a person that was trying to get something for nothing from her, and I should probably go live in a communist country so I could get things for free. Then she said I was negative and that I needed to read a zig ziglar book and get the negativity out of my life in order to overcome my problems. She said she was going to pray for me and hoped whatever I was going through would only be temporary in my life.

Well, I answered her back and said that people are helping people every day for nothing on the low carb message boards that I visit and they do it out of kindness and sincerity. In fact there are even more qualified people than her that are helping others and supporting others. They aren't seeing their own success as a way to make a quick buck, or saying "kimmer did it, so why can't I cash in on it too" I also told her I didn't want her diet and wasn't trying to get it for free and I definitely wasn't going to pay anyone for diet advice ever again. I said after the kimkins scam caught me I feel I have become a watch dog for scam diet sites and if one person is saved from a harmful diet or bad diet advice, then the effort was worth it. Oh and I'm a happy person too.

Now it looks like her site may be down?

Well, it's official! You are a Negative Nancy!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by TerryC

I sent the magic chicken lady an email asking how she could charge for her advice without having any qualifications for giving the advice except that it worked for her. I said people are helping each other every day on message boards across the weight loss community without making money at it. And I asked her how she could want to emulate kimkins when it was a scam. Anyway I was strongly opinionated about my take on her enterprise.

She answered back that God had helped her and she felt that He wanted her to help others now,and that didn't come cheap. Websites need money and programmers need money and computers cost money, and I sounded like a person that was trying to get something for nothing from her, and I should probably go live in a communist country so I could get things for free. Then she said I was negative and that I needed to read a zig ziglar book and get the negativity out of my life in order to overcome my problems. She said she was going to pray for me and hoped whatever I was going through would only be temporary in my life.

Well, I answered her back and said that people are helping people every day for nothing on the low carb message boards that I visit and they do it out of kindness and sincerity. In fact there are even more qualified people than her that are helping others and supporting others. They aren't seeing their own success as a way to make a quick buck, or saying "kimmer did it, so why can't I cash in on it too" I also told her I didn't want her diet and wasn't trying to get it for free and I definitely wasn't going to pay anyone for diet advice ever again. I said after the kimkins scam caught me I feel I have become a watch dog for scam diet sites and if one person is saved from a harmful diet or bad diet advice, then the effort was worth it. Oh and I'm a happy person too.

Now it looks like her site may be down?

Good for you! Hey if God told her to set this diet site up - I'm sure he didn't tell her to charge for it. I too tried to bring up her site and it is down.

For all we know it could have been a sideline business for Heidi. We'll never know!

[WildAngel6]

Ok, it looks like even the folks over at eHow.com have gotten sucked in to the Kimkins Diet Scam.

How to Lose Weight on the Kimkins Diet | eHow.com


If anyone would care to share with eHow.com how you feel about them promoting the Kimkins Diet Scam, you can do that here:

Contact Us | eHow.com


Thank you for your help!

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Ok, it looks like even the folks over at eHow.com have gotten sucked in to the Kimkins Diet Scam.

How to Lose Weight on the Kimkins Diet | eHow.com


If anyone would care to share with eHow.com how you feel about them promoting the Kimkins Diet Scam, you can do that here:

Contact Us | eHow.com


Thank you for your help!

I just notified them.

[Just4Me]

Originally Posted by TerryC

I sent the magic chicken lady an email asking how she could charge for her advice without having any qualifications for giving the advice except that it worked for her. I said people are helping each other every day on message boards across the weight loss community without making money at it. And I asked her how she could want to emulate kimkins when it was a scam. Anyway I was strongly opinionated about my take on her enterprise.

She answered back that God had helped her and she felt that He wanted her to help others now,and that didn't come cheap. Websites need money and programmers need money and computers cost money, and I sounded like a person that was trying to get something for nothing from her, and I should probably go live in a communist country so I could get things for free. Then she said I was negative and that I needed to read a zig ziglar book and get the negativity out of my life in order to overcome my problems. She said she was going to pray for me and hoped whatever I was going through would only be temporary in my life.

Well, I answered her back and said that people are helping people every day for nothing on the low carb message boards that I visit and they do it out of kindness and sincerity. In fact there are even more qualified people than her that are helping others and supporting others. They aren't seeing their own success as a way to make a quick buck, or saying "kimmer did it, so why can't I cash in on it too" I also told her I didn't want her diet and wasn't trying to get it for free and I definitely wasn't going to pay anyone for diet advice ever again. I said after the kimkins scam caught me I feel I have become a watch dog for scam diet sites and if one person is saved from a harmful diet or bad diet advice, then the effort was worth it. Oh and I'm a happy person too.

Now it looks like her site may be down?

I have no problem with someone who's had success making a buck selling their success. If people are willing to pay money for what can be found elsewhere for free, well that's their choice.

My problem, though, is when there's no credential to back up the recommendations---it's one thing to be uncredentialed and make dietary choices for yourself, but another thing entirely to sell that to others.

However, in some states, even that is not regulated by law or statute, so in that case, there's nothing (legal or moral) to stop someone from doing this.

Of course in the case of KK, there are so MANY other things that were/are wrong, that don't apply to the MCD, e.g., the fraud to attract buyers and get their money. If MCD woman says "I'm not dietitian or doctor, I did this diet and lost 150 lbs in 5 months, and if you pay me, I'll tel you what I did", and advertises truthful before/after pics, etc., well, imo, she's got a right to do that, even if I don't think she should do it.

[Katinsac]

she might just be updating her site and it is down temp....

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by Just4Me

I have no problem with someone who's had success making a buck selling their success. If people are willing to pay money for what can be found elsewhere for free, well that's their choice.

My problem, though, is when there's no credential to back up the recommendations---it's one thing to be uncredentialed and make dietary choices for yourself, but another thing entirely to sell that to others.

However, in some states, even that is not regulated by law or statute, so in that case, there's nothing (legal or moral) to stop someone from doing this.

Of course in the case of KK, there are so MANY other things that were/are wrong, that don't apply to the MCD, e.g., the fraud to attract buyers and get their money. If MCD woman says "I'm not dietitian or doctor, I did this diet and lost 150 lbs in 5 months, and if you pay me, I'll tel you what I did", and advertises truthful before/after pics, etc., well, imo, she's got a right to do that, even if I don't think she should do it.

Just4me you just made my point that I was trying to make to the MCD lady. I know that legally she can do that, but why did she think it was okay to do it if she wasn't qualified and her only qualification was that it worked for her?

When I was a young poor beauty college student I subsisted on iced tea and cigarettes for lunch every day because that was what I could afford and I stayed skinny, so I know it works, but I wouldn't start a diet to coach people through the iced tea and cigarette diet (oh and don't worry I quite smoking 17 years ago).

[Nady]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

she might just be updating her site and it is down temp....

Do you get the server page with a contact number when you take it down yourself for maintenance? Looks to me like the server took it down~
~~~N

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by Nady

Do you get the server page with a contact number when you take it down yourself for maintenance? Looks to me like the server took it down~
~~~N

And yucky reported that the phone number goes to the billing department

[TerryC]

Maybe she had an attack of conscience?

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by TerryC

She answered back that God had helped her and she felt that He wanted her to help others now,and that didn't come cheap.

Great, so now one of Kimmer's Aliases is GOD?!?


But seriously Terry you did a great job.

[Katinsac]

me smells a second scam!! maybe she will do the e-book Kimmer never did!!

[gibster]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

me smells a second scam!! maybe she will do the e-book Kimmer never did!!

Tastes like chicken to me.......

[highdesertgal]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Maybe I remember that Hector said that the picture was a wedding picture. He might have meant that they WENT to a wedding..(Brandon in a suit, etc.)..
and that's what they wore..

Thanks, Jessiebear for doing the side by sides..

I've never entered a chat room before and don't know if I'm posting this correctly. I've been reading these threads and comments about Heidi Diaz since October when her diet scam was brought to my attention.

I knew Heidi when she was married to Hector, we lived in the same town. I have also met Hector's second wife, after they got custody of Brandon. The photo of "Kimmer" in the white dress you are all talking about is NOT Heidi. She has never been thin, not ever. It is clearly a photo of a model. The other photo in the blue/white dress at the zoo is Heidi with a very young Brandon. Just wanted to clear this up.

[TerryC]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Great, so now one of Kimmer's Aliases is GOD?!?


But seriously Terry you did a great job.

Thanks HoneyBee, but I want to say that I think this woman is sincere in her feelings about how God helped her, but sometimes it appears that people are greedy when they then try to make money off of that.

And again - I am not against capitalism in any way - and people should be able to make a living, but when you talk about things pertaining to health then if you aren't qualified, I think you just come across as greedy.