Why the fascination with Kimmer? #11 - Page 62

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 11:49 AM

Looks like TT will have a little competition if there are TWO KK type sites out there now....TT will really have to sell her cycling plan to get people to want to try it as opposed to a fast weight loss site like the other two!

Magicsmom · 12-10-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by shelby7851

This is how I feel. I think that sometimes things are exaggerated, she might have been joking, she might not. We dont know, and to use this, when nobody here really knows EXACTLY what happened, is really stretching for something. Stick the facts of what applies to Kimkins. what she did wrong that is related to kimkins, instead of throwing things out to make people hate her more.

No, we were not there. All we can do is relate what TT posted here. Facts are facts, and it speaks to her character. I am not throwing things out to make people hate her more. At one time, her post was copied in one of these threads, and people could see that I am not putting words in her mouth. I am telling the truth about what SHE posted. If you don't like it, I'm sorry, but that is the bottom line. She has to live with what she posted, and she has to live with the fact that people remember it.

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 11:51 AM

makes me wish I had the money to throw away just to see her MCD diet! and to count the cals, fat, carbs, lol. they do say it is low cal, carb and fat though so I doubt is is more than 800.

BamaGal · 12-10-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

No offense to those of you in TX but, I find it interesting that so many people on the KK site and the MCD site are from TX...seems all that beef they eat is fattening? Naw...must be the potatoes to go with it because we all know LC Rawks!!

don't you know everything grows bigger in Texas!!!

j/k my Texas buddies.....

Nady · 12-10-2007, 11:53 AM

Hey Mariasol~ your blog

~~~N

Barbara B · 12-10-2007, 11:54 AM

They do, apparently have a candle business, as stated in her story.

Supplier Information -
Craft Supplier: CANDLE SUPPLY PLACE
Type: Retail/Wholesale
Craft Supplies Carried: CANDLE MAKING SUPPLIES
Comments: We sell candlemaking starter kits, wax, wicks, fragrance oil, wick stickers, jars.

Address: 1501 N. HWY. 77
City: HILLSBORO
State: TX
Phone:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Contact: BONNIE LUPER
Email:

JustKim · 12-10-2007, 11:54 AM

TT you've been busy today reading and writing I see

Paty · 12-10-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariasol

Could this be the new "kimkins?" Magic Chicken Diet Program Easy Diet Lose Weight Fast

The lady in the top banner look like she will die in 10 seconds... These are scary pictures. I hope she is healthy because she doesn't look healthy at all. I wonder if people are actually signing up.

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 11:59 AM

Well, at least they SAY they have a maintenance plan on this one...wonder if it is cycling

SMP · 12-10-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChloeKatz

Here's a copy of the ad seeking a freelancer to set up the Magic Chicken Diet website (bolding mine):

Description: Here is the project. My wife lost over 150 lbs in 9 months so she has asked me to put a website together so here I am attempting to get a website up and running for her. I would like it to be a clone of www. kimkins.com with ability to change background color and easily edited on my end as a webmaster for editing, adding pictures . It needs a message board and blog type journal where users can upload pictures and weight loss results and they can choose whether to have it private or public. It needs set up for PayPal pro and an automatic affiliate links exchange. We need a banner & logo designed and live chat. We would also like the ability to turn off and on the members and guest online numbers where it shows on home page. Would like to add a buddy finder. Would like to see a working demo. Also 30 day support. We have all of our own before and after pictures. We also need it search engine optimized for good rankings.
If you decide to place a bid please provide some other websites that you've designed that are similar to the project I'm looking to be developed. Only designer with "relevant" experience will be considered. Thank you
I am doing this for her 50th birthday (June 12)

My take? Imitate success - as long as you have a genuine success story.

We've all commented on how professional Heidi's site became, and this guy is just a copycat, even to the extent of borrowing catchy phrases and trigger words. Basic salesmanship 101. Heidi certainly wouldn't tip her hand by referring to her own site, and I feel she has enough computer smarts to do much of this work herself. There's no way she wants to sally forth in her new identity, only to hear loud quacking behind her!

Barbara B · 12-10-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustKim

TT you've been busy today reading and writing I see

SL was in here this morning.

susique333 · 12-10-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mariasol
Could this be the new "kimkins?" Magic Chicken Diet Program Easy Diet Lose Weight Fast

Gee Heidi this is too bad, if you had just been honest this wouldnt have happened. You "SOLD" KKs and look what happened. When the Cats away, the mice will play!

OhYeahBabe · 12-10-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WildAngel6

Christin Sherburne will be on Connie Bennett's "Stop Sugar Shock" Show on BlogTalk Internet Radio tomorrow. Other guests will be Laura Dolson from about.com, Jimmy Moore of the Livin' La Vida Low-Carb blog, book, and podcast, and Judy Barnes, author of Carb Wars.

The show will be at 3 PM Eastern on Tuesday December 11, but if you miss it, you can always listen later.

Internet Radio, Citizen Broadcasting, Social Media Podcasts - Blog Talk Radio

I hadn't heard about that yet - thanks for posting this!!! I wonder if it has already been taped, or if it's live?

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 12:05 PM

they just can't stay away from us....we know they love us!! lol

Sheridan · 12-10-2007, 12:10 PM

Tippy's latest:

Another Prime Example Here

Apparently my post was in stealth mode as some are still focusing on one TT incident as if that's all she did. This post gives insight to Tippy's character. Remember, this isn't second hand info, I was here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by golite View Post
"Amy,
as you can see, I've been here for many years and I've seen all the Tippyisms.
There are many posts and whole threads for that matter that are gone now because of the very wrong content.
Tippy would wait until the posts or threads were deleted and then repost the subject, lying about what others said in them.
So all people saw were her lies and felt animosity towards the person Tippy lied about. If only we'd thought to PrtScn in those days!
Kimmer was extremely mean to people here and every chance Tippy got, she would go behind kimmer and drive the screw in deeper.

Tippy went to the LCF pigroast and caused a ruckus from that. She's a gossip.
She takes pleasure in others suffering.
One woman has food allergies, reactions that can kill and Tippy even found that fact fodder for amusement.

Tippy created a fund raiser for fictional foster children and then later lied about what the money was for.
She lied about her weight loss method on the BBB site, she lied on here, she lied on kk and she lied on national television.
She's lied about not knowing who kimmer is, not knowing anything about fake pictures. She's lied about what the kk diet is.
She continues to lie about everything that's asked of her and takes no responsibility for her lies.

What do I want her to say? The TRUTH."

Well, golite, the truth is something I would like to read in your posts as well. So let's go step by step in finding it. What are you talking about? What posts were deleted (and why) and where and when and what did I post after the supposed fact? Can you claify this and be very specific? I don't think you can but here is your big chance to try so go for it. I never posted much on Ask Kimmer--maybe not at all I am not sure. Because I didn't start learning of Kimkins diet until Kimmer was on her way out to start Kimkins.com. So what you say, that I helped her be mean to people and you saw it all is untrue. You should be ashamed. And I enjoy other's suffering? Seems you get a lot of enjoyment yourself from my suffering. So let's tackle that issue. I never lied about my disappointent seeing so many had gained weight back at the second gathering I attended from LCF. It wasn't the weight regain that bothered me. It was the fact that many of these people were on my butt day in and day out for doing Kimkins or Atkins Fat Fast. While busily lecturing me they had not mentioned struggling with their own weights. Seeing them was a total shock and I did feel a let down that they had not mentioned it and still to this day some use skinny pics as avatars. I find this misleading and was a bit surprised to see the very people lecturing me were having problems. Now, it is your turn to show everyone a post by me where I think someone having a food allergy is funny. That is a lie. I challenge you to prove otherwise. And the fund raiser was at a time when no one knew any different about Kimmer, myself included so stop trying to make it look as if I knew too. No one knew. And the rest of the post of yours has been previously addressed. You seem to really believe what you say. Now make me believe it to. Show me.

and this:

Fabrications

Gallery: Tooter

"Amyb, She lied on the BBB Reviews (trying to give Kimkins a good name) and said she lost her weight on Kimkins, to imply she lost ALL her weight on Kimkins.

She has Thyroid problems that are getting worse, but says that Kimkins and it's plan has nothing to do with it. She also doesn't acknowledge all the health problems that Kimkins can cause (including eating disorders). Her whole focus is her weight loss and how wonderful she is and the welfare of others be damned.

She has known the truth About Kimkins for a long time. I can't tell you how many times people warned her and pointed things out to her. She didn't care. Still doesn't. That's sad.

Also, there was the Mail fraud with Kimmers foster kids. Tippy had people raise money for Kimmers Foster kids (Which she didn't have any) And when we all pointed it out on here, she said something like "Oh Well, everyone gave the money for Kimmer to do as she saw fit."! Umm...NO! She didn't care at all that people were duped!

All she could see was the "Attention" and making some money.

She was so mad at being banned (for threatening a mod) that she wanted everyone to BAN Netriction.

There are a bunch of other things, but I'll let others fill you in."

Tooter, perhaps it is difficult to believe what was said about Kimmer because of the very same untruths you are saying about me? Let me explain. To this day I still do not know if Kimmer did or did not have foster kids turning 18. I did the fundraiser in good faith based on Kimmer's word alone. I did not see one thin dime from it nor did I want to. To my knowledge this was small and I believe we raised less than $150. Now don't get me wrong--I really hope she did have that cause and that it was not just to put money in her pockets. I hope not.

And Tooter, why would you lie and say my Thyroid problems are getting worse? The truth is they are better and I have responded extremely well to the meds. I don't even have to go back for a year and am now able to handle a lot more carbs than prior. Dr. Atkins even says his diet can cause thyroid troubles with prolonged dieting. I know you WANT to blame Kimkins but you can't. I can't blame Kimkins or Atkins because my Doctor thinks I may have always had a problem without knowing it. So please.

And I went back and changed what I said at the BBB when I saw the conflict of not understanding what I meant. That was changed right away. Like it or not I did lose more weight following Kimkins than Atkins. Now you may ask why I didn't credit Kimkins in my yearly Atkinsversary report. Because Cheri had expressed concerns over people jumping on Kimkins without trying Atkins first and out of respect for her I did not mention it there. But you can go to the thread Has Atkins Stopped Working For You and read all about it there.

And threatening an admin... I will admit that was not the way I should have handled that situation and I do regret it. This is why I didn't make good on it. The threat was not HUGE as it is made to sound either. I wasn't threatening to kill anyone or beat anyone up. Still I was wrong and do admit and apologize for that decision.

Lastly, Tooter, your line here tells it all: "There are a bunch of other things but I'll let others fill you in.". A bunch of other things? What could possibly be left?

And Kaykay, this is for you. You say you have "proof" I knew Kimmer was a fraud previously. Why not show us? You can't because there is none. Perhaps someone told you something that you believe. Why swear you to secrecy? Go ahead and show the proof if you can.

and this:

Assumptions

"The thing about the teeth I think was only spoken in email (don't recall), so I certainly am not about to hold that against her. I do allow for a certain expectation of minimal privacy in email. But on a public board, to brag about getting your husband an unnecessary medical procedure as payback--whoa. We're in a pit of ugly mud with that one. Allowing him to go through with that--especially if one has medical insurance--is a type of fraud in itself. But it can certainly be categorized as "mental cruelty" by the husband. Not to mention butthole cruelty.That's why posters here have brought those incidences up. The prankful malice of a frightening order.Even if you were ticked off at your husband, would you LIE to his doctor in order to get him to have to undergo an uncomfortable procedure like a colonoscopy? That's beyond a prank. That's spiteful and cruel and shows the nature of her true character. If you disliked a dieter on here, would you try to sabotage their eating plan? I would think NOT, since that shows a lack of ethics. And it's an act that violates the very principle of diet forums. We're supposed to be here to HELP each other lose weight, not gain. That peanut butter candy prank says a lot about Tippy's immaturity and meanness."

Let's start here today. This is how things spiral out of control, well meaning or not. There is no email about my husband's teeth. There never was. My husband needed a little cosmetic work previously and people from LCF gathering knew this because the met us. Period. Since his teeth are such a hot topic just thought I would share that our Dentist says his teeth are beautiful and in better shape than mine even. He has had 1 cavity in his life. The subject of his teeth was first mentioned by Ducky and it was this that really leads me to understand who Ducky is and that yes, we have met in person.

No one lied to his Doctor. I did find blood in the toilet and was genuinely concerned. True, I was not at goal and did post a pic or two in a bathingsuit. They were to show progress in the works only and I was not calling goal. He did say I wasn't "ready" for that yet and I did make a joke about his exam coming up but people--it was a joke. In fact, I made the comment on Support Unlimited and Melly followed the joke by saying that was something she would do... Don't believe it? Go read it. Do I think she would? No. I knew she was kidding back. So here once again things are blown over the top by people who just don't like me. Lots of hear say. Missy, you defend your new friends all you want. I hate to think you are lying on purpose since you claim to hate liars so much but even if you think you speak the truth, you do not. There are many people who know better and do know the facts and truth about all the personal issues which frankly do not concern you anyways.

I have apologized for the recipe and stated before that this recipe WILL NOT MAKE YOU FAT and is in LCF recipe room. I am very sorry to have hurt anyone with this and was just trying to stick up for Cutie. That was a mistake. Surely the rest of you do not want me to go back and retrieve what YOU said about her too now do you? Of course not... And no need to make her feel worse. I see she is not accepting of my apology and that is her right. I understand.

FaithM. · 12-10-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nady

Hey Mariasol~ your blog

~~~N

OMG I believe they could be right about that!

Plus, at first I had misread the line from Bonnie as, "I lost 160 lbs. in 10 minutes"!

Sheridan · 12-10-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katinsac

Well, at least they SAY they have a maintenance plan on this one...wonder if it is cycling

Naw, you are to add in one brussel sprout per day until you reach your maximum limit of 3.

MomToEli · 12-10-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibster

Yep - here's the project description for the website:

"Here is the project. My wife lost over 150 lbs in 9 months so she has asked me to put a website together so here I am attempting to get a website up and running for her. I would like it to be a clone of www. kimkins.com with ability to change background color and easily edited on my end as a webmaster for editing, adding pictures . <snipped> I am doing this for her 50th birthday (June 12)"

Hehe!

June 12? Which year? Was Kimkins even up and running June 12 of this year, for someone to want to clone it?

susique333 · 12-10-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MomToEli

June 12? Which year? Was Kimkins even up and running June 12 of this year, for someone to want to clone it?

Well I joined KK in December 06 so it was running then. But...May 07 was a really LONG time ago....so i questioned that date too. Also the disclaimer on the site...Im trying to find out where it says the LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP is only lifetime IF YOU NEVER OPEN YOUR MOUTH while being a member.

MomToEli · 12-10-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I agree! Too convenient that everything looks identical to the KK site..... but how can we explain away the before/after pictures?

That ones easy ... they could well be legit before and afters, but whose to say they are the site owners own pictures? If Russian bride pics can be stolen, why not someone's weight loss journey pics?

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 12:22 PM

[quote=Sheridan;9613980]Tippy's latest:

Another Prime Example Here

Apparently my post was in stealth mode as some are still focusing on one TT incident as if that's all she did. This post gives insight to Tippy's character. Remember, this isn't second hand info, I was here.

deleted for space...

If TT cannot post here....can she cut and paste? How is this info getting to her so she can comment on it? I'm confused? Apparently, banning her from this site, makes no difference in her commenting on it...

Katinsac · 12-10-2007, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomToEli

June 12? Which year? Was Kimkins even up and running June 12 of this year, for someone to want to clone it?

Yes, I joined June 4th

McLurkypants · 12-10-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Oh NO - here we go again!

Take a look at the furniture in the background!

Some identical artwork also - the tape measure around the waist - wasn't that same image on the KK front page (may still be)...

Cutie · 12-10-2007, 12:27 PM

[quote=Katinsac;9614071]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Tippy's latest:

Another Prime Example Here

Apparently my post was in stealth mode as some are still focusing on one TT incident as if that's all she did. This post gives insight to Tippy's character. Remember, this isn't second hand info, I was here.

deleted for space...

If TT cannot post here....can she cut and paste? How is this info getting to her so she can comment on it? I'm confused? Apparently, banning her from this site, makes no difference in her commenting on it...

anyone can read, cut and paste...

12-10-2007, 11:49 AM	#1831
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Looks like TT will have a little competition if there are TWO KK type sites out there now....TT will really have to sell her cycling plan to get people to want to try it as opposed to a fast weight loss site like the other two!

12-10-2007, 11:51 AM	#1833
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	makes me wish I had the money to throw away just to see her MCD diet! and to count the cals, fat, carbs, lol. they do say it is low cal, carb and fat though so I doubt is is more than 800.

12-10-2007, 11:53 AM	#1835
Nady Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 11,807 Gallery: Nady WOE: LC/No Grains Start Date: On & Off Since 1972	Hey Mariasol~ your blog ~~~N

12-10-2007, 11:54 AM	#1836
Barbara B Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Egypt, NJ Posts: 827 Gallery: Barbara B WOE: Dr. Richard Bernstein	They do, apparently have a candle business, as stated in her story. Supplier Information - Craft Supplier: CANDLE SUPPLY PLACE Type: Retail/Wholesale Craft Supplies Carried: CANDLE MAKING SUPPLIES Comments: We sell candlemaking starter kits, wax, wicks, fragrance oil, wick stickers, jars. Address: 1501 N. HWY. 77 City: HILLSBORO State: TX Phone:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Contact: BONNIE LUPER Email:

12-10-2007, 11:54 AM	#1837
JustKim Taking a break Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 19,631 Gallery: JustKim	TT you've been busy today reading and writing I see

12-10-2007, 11:59 AM	#1839
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	Well, at least they SAY they have a maintenance plan on this one...wonder if it is cycling

12-10-2007, 12:04 PM	#1842
susique333 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 50 years old, I live in Omaha Posts: 775 Gallery: susique333 Stats: 230/173/150 WOE: Eat Fat Get Thin Start Date: summer 2007	Originally Posted by Mariasol Could this be the new "kimkins?" Magic Chicken Diet Program Easy Diet Lose Weight Fast Gee Heidi this is too bad, if you had just been honest this wouldnt have happened. You "SOLD" KKs and look what happened. When the Cats away, the mice will play!

12-10-2007, 12:05 PM	#1844
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	they just can't stay away from us....we know they love us!! lol

12-10-2007, 12:10 PM	#1845
Sheridan Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: central Texas. . . but on the road again . . . Posts: 725 Gallery: Sheridan Stats: 231/getting there/155~145 5'8" w/ small frame WOE: Atkins Start Date: September 2, 2007	Tippy's latest: Another Prime Example Here Apparently my post was in stealth mode as some are still focusing on one TT incident as if that's all she did. This post gives insight to Tippy's character. Remember, this isn't second hand info, I was here. Quote: Originally Posted by golite View Post "Amy, as you can see, I've been here for many years and I've seen all the Tippyisms. There are many posts and whole threads for that matter that are gone now because of the very wrong content. Tippy would wait until the posts or threads were deleted and then repost the subject, lying about what others said in them. So all people saw were her lies and felt animosity towards the person Tippy lied about. If only we'd thought to PrtScn in those days! Kimmer was extremely mean to people here and every chance Tippy got, she would go behind kimmer and drive the screw in deeper. Tippy went to the LCF pigroast and caused a ruckus from that. She's a gossip. She takes pleasure in others suffering. One woman has food allergies, reactions that can kill and Tippy even found that fact fodder for amusement. Tippy created a fund raiser for fictional foster children and then later lied about what the money was for. She lied about her weight loss method on the BBB site, she lied on here, she lied on kk and she lied on national television. She's lied about not knowing who kimmer is, not knowing anything about fake pictures. She's lied about what the kk diet is. She continues to lie about everything that's asked of her and takes no responsibility for her lies. What do I want her to say? The TRUTH." Well, golite, the truth is something I would like to read in your posts as well. So let's go step by step in finding it. What are you talking about? What posts were deleted (and why) and where and when and what did I post after the supposed fact? Can you claify this and be very specific? I don't think you can but here is your big chance to try so go for it. I never posted much on Ask Kimmer--maybe not at all I am not sure. Because I didn't start learning of Kimkins diet until Kimmer was on her way out to start Kimkins.com. So what you say, that I helped her be mean to people and you saw it all is untrue. You should be ashamed. And I enjoy other's suffering? Seems you get a lot of enjoyment yourself from my suffering. So let's tackle that issue. I never lied about my disappointent seeing so many had gained weight back at the second gathering I attended from LCF. It wasn't the weight regain that bothered me. It was the fact that many of these people were on my butt day in and day out for doing Kimkins or Atkins Fat Fast. While busily lecturing me they had not mentioned struggling with their own weights. Seeing them was a total shock and I did feel a let down that they had not mentioned it and still to this day some use skinny pics as avatars. I find this misleading and was a bit surprised to see the very people lecturing me were having problems. Now, it is your turn to show everyone a post by me where I think someone having a food allergy is funny. That is a lie. I challenge you to prove otherwise. And the fund raiser was at a time when no one knew any different about Kimmer, myself included so stop trying to make it look as if I knew too. No one knew. And the rest of the post of yours has been previously addressed. You seem to really believe what you say. Now make me believe it to. Show me. and this: Fabrications Gallery: Tooter "Amyb, She lied on the BBB Reviews (trying to give Kimkins a good name) and said she lost her weight on Kimkins, to imply she lost ALL her weight on Kimkins. She has Thyroid problems that are getting worse, but says that Kimkins and it's plan has nothing to do with it. She also doesn't acknowledge all the health problems that Kimkins can cause (including eating disorders). Her whole focus is her weight loss and how wonderful she is and the welfare of others be damned. She has known the truth About Kimkins for a long time. I can't tell you how many times people warned her and pointed things out to her. She didn't care. Still doesn't. That's sad. Also, there was the Mail fraud with Kimmers foster kids. Tippy had people raise money for Kimmers Foster kids (Which she didn't have any) And when we all pointed it out on here, she said something like "Oh Well, everyone gave the money for Kimmer to do as she saw fit."! Umm...NO! She didn't care at all that people were duped! All she could see was the "Attention" and making some money. She was so mad at being banned (for threatening a mod) that she wanted everyone to BAN Netriction. There are a bunch of other things, but I'll let others fill you in." Tooter, perhaps it is difficult to believe what was said about Kimmer because of the very same untruths you are saying about me? Let me explain. To this day I still do not know if Kimmer did or did not have foster kids turning 18. I did the fundraiser in good faith based on Kimmer's word alone. I did not see one thin dime from it nor did I want to. To my knowledge this was small and I believe we raised less than $150. Now don't get me wrong--I really hope she did have that cause and that it was not just to put money in her pockets. I hope not. And Tooter, why would you lie and say my Thyroid problems are getting worse? The truth is they are better and I have responded extremely well to the meds. I don't even have to go back for a year and am now able to handle a lot more carbs than prior. Dr. Atkins even says his diet can cause thyroid troubles with prolonged dieting. I know you WANT to blame Kimkins but you can't. I can't blame Kimkins or Atkins because my Doctor thinks I may have always had a problem without knowing it. So please. And I went back and changed what I said at the BBB when I saw the conflict of not understanding what I meant. That was changed right away. Like it or not I did lose more weight following Kimkins than Atkins. Now you may ask why I didn't credit Kimkins in my yearly Atkinsversary report. Because Cheri had expressed concerns over people jumping on Kimkins without trying Atkins first and out of respect for her I did not mention it there. But you can go to the thread Has Atkins Stopped Working For You and read all about it there. And threatening an admin... I will admit that was not the way I should have handled that situation and I do regret it. This is why I didn't make good on it. The threat was not HUGE as it is made to sound either. I wasn't threatening to kill anyone or beat anyone up. Still I was wrong and do admit and apologize for that decision. Lastly, Tooter, your line here tells it all: "There are a bunch of other things but I'll let others fill you in.". A bunch of other things? What could possibly be left? And Kaykay, this is for you. You say you have "proof" I knew Kimmer was a fraud previously. Why not show us? You can't because there is none. Perhaps someone told you something that you believe. Why swear you to secrecy? Go ahead and show the proof if you can. and this: Assumptions "The thing about the teeth I think was only spoken in email (don't recall), so I certainly am not about to hold that against her. I do allow for a certain expectation of minimal privacy in email. But on a public board, to brag about getting your husband an unnecessary medical procedure as payback--whoa. We're in a pit of ugly mud with that one. Allowing him to go through with that--especially if one has medical insurance--is a type of fraud in itself. But it can certainly be categorized as "mental cruelty" by the husband. Not to mention butthole cruelty.That's why posters here have brought those incidences up. The prankful malice of a frightening order.Even if you were ticked off at your husband, would you LIE to his doctor in order to get him to have to undergo an uncomfortable procedure like a colonoscopy? That's beyond a prank. That's spiteful and cruel and shows the nature of her true character. If you disliked a dieter on here, would you try to sabotage their eating plan? I would think NOT, since that shows a lack of ethics. And it's an act that violates the very principle of diet forums. We're supposed to be here to HELP each other lose weight, not gain. That peanut butter candy prank says a lot about Tippy's immaturity and meanness." Let's start here today. This is how things spiral out of control, well meaning or not. There is no email about my husband's teeth. There never was. My husband needed a little cosmetic work previously and people from LCF gathering knew this because the met us. Period. Since his teeth are such a hot topic just thought I would share that our Dentist says his teeth are beautiful and in better shape than mine even. He has had 1 cavity in his life. The subject of his teeth was first mentioned by Ducky and it was this that really leads me to understand who Ducky is and that yes, we have met in person. No one lied to his Doctor. I did find blood in the toilet and was genuinely concerned. True, I was not at goal and did post a pic or two in a bathingsuit. They were to show progress in the works only and I was not calling goal. He did say I wasn't "ready" for that yet and I did make a joke about his exam coming up but people--it was a joke. In fact, I made the comment on Support Unlimited and Melly followed the joke by saying that was something she would do... Don't believe it? Go read it. Do I think she would? No. I knew she was kidding back. So here once again things are blown over the top by people who just don't like me. Lots of hear say. Missy, you defend your new friends all you want. I hate to think you are lying on purpose since you claim to hate liars so much but even if you think you speak the truth, you do not. There are many people who know better and do know the facts and truth about all the personal issues which frankly do not concern you anyways. I have apologized for the recipe and stated before that this recipe WILL NOT MAKE YOU FAT and is in LCF recipe room. I am very sorry to have hurt anyone with this and was just trying to stick up for Cutie. That was a mistake. Surely the rest of you do not want me to go back and retrieve what YOU said about her too now do you? Of course not... And no need to make her feel worse. I see she is not accepting of my apology and that is her right. I understand.

12-10-2007, 12:22 PM	#1851
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	[quote=Sheridan;9613980]Tippy's latest: Another Prime Example Here Apparently my post was in stealth mode as some are still focusing on one TT incident as if that's all she did. This post gives insight to Tippy's character. Remember, this isn't second hand info, I was here. deleted for space... If TT cannot post here....can she cut and paste? How is this info getting to her so she can comment on it? I'm confused? Apparently, banning her from this site, makes no difference in her commenting on it...